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Jul 9, 2011 5:51 PM

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bwahahachick said:
Anime fans confuse me. Incest is alright, pedophilia is fine, yuri is awesome, but when two little boys hold hands, people get into such a tizzy and cry "get the gay away, it's all in my face."

If Nezumi were a girl holding Shion's hand, then no one would think anything of this. Truly sad to see some of the reactions to this anime.


Pedophilia is only fine if its for laughs or cheap fanservice, and occasionally romance that doesn't even try to point out the problems with it. Have you seen the backslash against Kodomo no Jikan (psychological drama) and Dance in the Vampire Bund (where the entire point was Mina's existence being screwed up?)? The first only got popular after it went nuts with the sexuality.

But yeah, that's possibly what annoys me most about this entire drama fest: the double standards.
Jul 9, 2011 5:55 PM

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Kiraly said:
bwahahachick said:
Anime fans confuse me. Incest is alright, pedophilia is fine, yuri is awesome, but when two little boys hold hands, people get into such a tizzy and cry "get the gay away, it's all in my face."

If Nezumi were a girl holding Shion's hand, then no one would think anything of this. Truly sad to see some of the reactions to this anime.


Pedophilia is only fine if its for laughs or cheap fanservice, and occasionally romance that doesn't even try to point out the problems with it. Have you seen the backslash against Kodomo no Jikan (psychological drama) and Dance in the Vampire Bund (where the entire point was Mina's existence being screwed up?)? The first only got popular after it went nuts with the sexuality.

But yeah, that's possibly what annoys me most about this entire drama fest: the double standards.

Its not that I hate it, its just that it doesn't really interest me.

Episode was okay, I liked the Opening.
Jul 9, 2011 5:57 PM

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Kiraly said:
bwahahachick said:
Anime fans confuse me. Incest is alright, pedophilia is fine, yuri is awesome, but when two little boys hold hands, people get into such a tizzy and cry "get the gay away, it's all in my face."

If Nezumi were a girl holding Shion's hand, then no one would think anything of this. Truly sad to see some of the reactions to this anime.


Pedophilia is only fine if its for laughs or cheap fanservice, and occasionally romance that doesn't even try to point out the problems with it. Have you seen the backslash against Kodomo no Jikan (psychological drama) and Dance in the Vampire Bund (where the entire point was Mina's existence being screwed up?)? The first only got popular after it went nuts with the sexuality.

But yeah, that's possibly what annoys me most about this entire drama fest: the double standards.

I haven't read/seen Dance in the Vampire Bund, but I did keep up with Kodomo no Jikan for a while. I have to admit I don't have much respect for that series and the way its executed, but I'd be much more at ease if pedophilia were examined seriously in the case of a psychological series such as KnJ (or even Loveless), instead of desensitized for cheap laughs.
Jul 9, 2011 6:11 PM

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bwahahachick said:
Anime fans confuse me. Incest is alright, pedophilia is fine, yuri is awesome, but when two little boys hold hands, people get into such a tizzy and cry "get the gay away, it's all in my face."


Just an opinion mate. We didn't say it was wrong, just that it wasn't for us.
There shouldn't be an issue with that.
Jul 9, 2011 6:19 PM

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bwahahachick said:

I haven't read/seen Dance in the Vampire Bund, but I did keep up with Kodomo no Jikan for a while. I have to admit I don't have much respect for that series and the way its executed, but I'd be much more at ease if pedophilia were examined seriously in the case of a psychological series such as KnJ (or even Loveless), instead of desensitized for cheap laughs.


I watched the uncensored version and barely even noticed the "fanservice". I'm sure slapping bear stickers - or whatever they did - over each risque bit of skin did nothing more than act as a huge uncomfortable 'look at me! you're supposed to get excited here!'. I didn't find the series particularly funny either, heh.
Jul 9, 2011 6:32 PM

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slee62 said:
bwahahachick said:
Anime fans confuse me. Incest is alright, pedophilia is fine, yuri is awesome, but when two little boys hold hands, people get into such a tizzy and cry "get the gay away, it's all in my face."


Just an opinion mate. We didn't say it was wrong, just that it wasn't for us.
There shouldn't be an issue with that.

You can only speak for yourself, and while you may be saying it isn't wrong, many people here are. They are implying that there is something sexual going on between these two kids, and that anything beyond that is gross or somehow off-putting.

On a side note, I do have an issue with people saying a "gay" series isn't for them, since the concept of labeling a series as "gay" -- or "shounen-ai" -- just doesn't make sense to me. "Hetero" as a genre would just look silly, no? In the anime community, at least, "shounen-ai" seems to be more of a warning for people rather than a category.

Kiraly said:

I watched the uncensored version and barely even noticed the "fanservice". I'm sure slapping bear stickers - or whatever they did - over each risque bit of skin did nothing more than act as a huge uncomfortable 'look at me! you're supposed to get excited here!'. I didn't find the series particularly funny either, heh.

Ha, yeah, I read over 40 chapters of it, and it seemed to me that the series was trying to retain some sort of credibility by pandering to two crowds -- the creepy side that would find scenes like a 9-year-old girl masturbating as hot, and the analytical side that would take note of the traumatic circumstances of her past and such.
Jul 9, 2011 10:15 PM

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zimno said:
hmmm....


good. smells yaoi tho
5/5 8.5/10


It does seem to have a bit of Yaoi, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to make you drop this anime. Seems like it stands a chance at having a good story.

I wonder if this is just a flashback of when they were kids 'cause I haven't seen any of them in the OP/ED (at least I think so).

Jul 9, 2011 10:49 PM

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Not really sure what to think of this one. i like the OP, I can't help but wonder why Shion's hair isn't white like the promo pics? maybe that will soon change. Anyway, I'll have to wait till the next episode to give a better opinion.
Jul 10, 2011 12:06 AM

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Hrm, I like it. A friend of mine actually told me about it and I was hooked by the theme song. I personally thought the possibility of shounen-ai would be quite fitting (though his reaction when he was kissed by his friend versus the hand-holding doesn't really imply leaning toward either party, at least to me. He didn't blush as most animes would add that bit of a hint but that's just me). Otherwise, the air of mystery and the lull of it reminds me of Fractale. I'll be watching this one. :)
Jul 10, 2011 2:41 AM

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WTF with that bed scene, it just seemed so random and out of place. I don't know about anyone else but if some escaped fugitive sneaked into my room and nearly choked me to death, I would probably not choose to lie down on the bed and hold hands. The main character was practically assaulted yet his only response is to act as if everything is normal? I will have to rewatch this episode because his actions seemed to make no sense whatsoever.
Jul 10, 2011 3:33 AM

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Nice first ep, very promising.
Loved how they animated that city and the heavy weather scenes were extremely well done.
That city seems eerie, and it's sure creepy everyone is monitored through those bracelets.
Quite interesting MC's as well, instead of the general spineless wusses.
An inteligent kid who doesn't scare easily, an escaped convict with knowledge about that city and a girl that seems to be able to handle herself as well.
I'm very interested to see where this goes.
Jul 10, 2011 4:44 AM

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i'd like to see the next episode and hope for a good story -__- otherwise i'll drop this. i my opinion it's the most promising anime in this season so far.
Jul 10, 2011 7:55 AM

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Somehow their meeting reminded me of Fractale and No.6 City with all those wind turbines reminded me Academy City in Toaru Majutsu no Index. Heh, well maybe it's just me. It was a good start, I hope they keep the plot interesting for me.
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Jul 10, 2011 8:13 AM

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I was really looking forward to this show but yaoi/shounen ai its not my thing. Gonna give this another episode to see if it gets better and stops with the yaoi vibes.
Jul 10, 2011 8:35 AM

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If this were any other random cheap anime series, I would’ve been all “SHONEN-AI UNDERTONES HNNNNGGGGGG”, but from the start this series seemed to have alot of potential aswell as nice animation, and it’s sad to see that the main focus so far seems to be the shōnen-ai undertones instead of the advanced world they live in or something else. I’ll keep watching, but I hope it'll get on track.
Jul 10, 2011 8:51 AM

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I'm curious why Shion's hair isn't white. I'm enjoying it so far and already looking forward to the next episode.
Jul 10, 2011 9:46 AM

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Shion is quite dumb, let bleeding, agresive stranger, enter to his home and then treat him as a good friend? are you kidding me? and damn, I smell yaoi...
Jul 10, 2011 10:59 AM
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5/5 - There's just something about this anime so far that I love. Wondering what's up with Shion's hair, how/why it goes white. He looks completely different in the first episode and then on the image.

I can't wait for the next episode. :)
Jul 10, 2011 11:25 AM

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As I thought, 80% of people who say they likes this episode are in female. DUH. 10% are males who klike this show (don't ask, don't tell). The other 10% are males who have not yet decided if they want to keep watching it. This is an aproximation based on all the posts before this one. The error margin is about 4% off. So yeah... the target demographic for this is women. Not that it wasn't clear , what with the novel an all.
Jul 10, 2011 4:17 PM

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Liking this a lot so far. I figured Penguindrum would be my favorite this season but WHOOPS I think it just got replaced.

...I'm uh, not seeing the shonen-ai here. Oh man two children held hands for ten seconds, they are definitely gonna bang each other. What?
I've got this burnin' like my veins are filled with nothin' but gasoline.
Jul 10, 2011 7:57 PM

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It's ridiculous the amount of people who plan on dropping the show because some boys held hands. Insecure much? I'm not going to deny the BL hints. In fact the manga had more in it but that is no reason to drop a show. You should consider the characters, plot, animation, and story. If these were girls it wouldn't be a big deal. Give the show a chance and stop running for the hills the second you see some bromance.

I enjoyed this show. It might be my favorite this season. I just hope it doesn't go downhill but from what I've read of the manga so far it might be a good anime.

5/5
Jul 10, 2011 8:47 PM

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This show is awesome and will probably continue to be awesome, with or without shonen-ai hints. I don't see why it matters in the grand scheme of things, the show presents a really interesting dystopian setting, and the plot will probably be introduced in the next episode, the relationship between Shion and Nezumi is just so trivial.
Jul 11, 2011 5:07 AM

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I actually really liked the episode and i just KNOW YouTube's gonna be filled with yaoi AMVs soon XD But i don't mind (i actually like yaoi/shounen ai ) i just hope it doesn't ruin the series. Although i was septical since Nezumi is like Kanda but with short hair (se the picture of the anime) and the other guy looks like Allen and i sort of hate them as a ouple (sorry Yullen fans :) ) Don't get me wrong ,i like yaoi/shounen-ai ,but in this type of anime (more serios and shounen-like) i prefer they don't show much of it.

I KNOW this isn't yaoi or shounen-ai but ,c'mon, the 2 main characters are guys so it's bound that any yaoi/shounen-ai fangirl that sees this will be "Ohh they make such a cute couple" and BAM you get tons of videos,fanart,doujinshis ect..

Even if the romance is supposed to be between him and his childhood friend.Although he doesn't look that interested in her.XD And don't worry guys BONES doesn't dissapoint (in terms of animation/quality or anything of the like ) :)
Jul 11, 2011 6:47 AM

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I liked it quite a lot =D
hope it'll stay good :3
Jul 11, 2011 7:38 AM

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Am I the only person here who did not smelled any yaoi in this? HAHAHA
Jul 11, 2011 8:44 AM

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Well i can ignore the whole BL thing (which is pretty amazing, considering i dropped all animes related to BL). Its actually a pretty good series if u just ignore the unwanted development between the two boys LOL.
Jul 11, 2011 10:42 AM

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Kind of strange but it looks interesting so I'll keep watching.
Jul 11, 2011 1:11 PM

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Lol, there seem to be two main types of posts here...

#1 - Those dropping it due to the 'undertones' of Yaoi/Shounen-ai. Probs a lil rushed decision, but fair enough - doesn't affect me.

#2 - Those who like to think they are more superior than those posting #1 because they are more accepting of such things/less awkward around it. Get off your high horses, goddamnit. In some ways, I like you people less than those posting #1.

(#3 - Even more superior bastards, like me. )
Jul 11, 2011 4:17 PM

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Well done and really interisting...

I will watch it for sure!!

4/5
Jul 11, 2011 5:43 PM

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I am kind of annoyed that the summary MAL has spoils things past episode one.
Jul 11, 2011 9:33 PM

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It looks interesting enough, though the BL at the end was a little awkward. The story of the city and how it came to be sounds really good, and I'll watch at the most 2 more episodes until I decide if I'm gonna drop this one or not.
Hopefully not. :D
Jul 12, 2011 10:07 AM

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Great first episode. I have really high hopes for this one.
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For fucks sake... when I was reading many ppls comments I couldn't help but facepalm (more than usual).

I can't believe the big debate is whether to drop this show simply because there may (or MAY NOT) be a romantic relationship between 2 males.

Really?! Close-minded idiocy. I am dissapointed.

I could care less if its homo or hetero- What people should be caring about is plot, characters, overall progression...etc and base their drop/not drop on that.

This.
Jul 12, 2011 10:08 AM

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I thought it was kind of boring but it has a Toward the Terra vibe to it (without the space-opera anyway), so I wouldn't mind watching a few more episodes.
Jul 13, 2011 10:56 AM

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Awesome first episode. Really interesting.
Can't wait for the next one. :'D
Jul 13, 2011 11:13 AM

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The setting and the story seems intriguing, but if the show goes deeper into yaoi territory, I will have to abandon it, not interested in that particular aspect. 3/5.
Jul 13, 2011 1:11 PM

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Children being gay for each other. wtf.
This show is, simply, average. Setting (I've seen it, like, 10 times?), characters (nothing special, seriously), meh seiyuu (Ko-chan/Subarun's accent becomes irritating when he gets more occasions to talk...), decent art, sound isn't annoying... Not a single outstanding feature. And, on top of that, powerful homo vibes. Yuck.
Just great and there was I, expecting Bones to do something great after last failure named Gosick. I'm losing faith in quality of their anime... I can only hope it takes completely different route than Gosick - it should get better with each episode, not worse...
Jul 14, 2011 2:39 AM

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Progeusz said:
Setting (I've seen it, like, 10 times?)


Having read the light novel a bit further, the setting changes a bit and the main protagonist's living conditions change a lot. Though admittedly I don't think this anime'd ever interest you no matter what the setting or characters are like if you're already calling holding hands "powerful homo vibes".
Jul 14, 2011 4:51 AM

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If its yaoi then please line against the wall.
Although it looks like it might be scraping the edge of the topic, but not giving enough to displease the ussual recipient of scifi genre of which it claims to be.
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Jul 14, 2011 12:02 PM

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Ddn't like the BL scene at the end but overall good for a first episode.
Jul 14, 2011 8:17 PM

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McRib said:
The Westboro Baptist Church does not approve.

LOLOLOL 666 POSTS.




Also, the first half REALLY reminded me of "The Giver".
Don't forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
Jul 15, 2011 2:04 AM

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Whats with all the yaoi complaints. Is everyone here homophobic or something. The first episode was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! One of the best anime this season. When I saw that it's currently rated in the 800's I was shocked.
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Jul 15, 2011 9:46 AM

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Wow, two little boys holding hands is pretty much as BL is it can get, NOT. Wtf people.
Jul 16, 2011 1:06 AM
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Is this Yaoi/shounen ai or not?
I mean I just read the synopsis (a boy saves a beautiful boy) and got some vibes...
Jul 16, 2011 3:00 AM
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astronomical said:
Wow, two little boys holding hands is pretty much as BL is it can get, NOT. Wtf people.

^This
Jul 17, 2011 12:18 AM

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I don't really see the gayness in it everyone's saying there is. This show will not only have an interesting plot, from what iv'e seen, but will also focus on the character's bonding. The part where Nezumi held Shion's hand, was for comfort, even saying this was a first for experiencing a human's warmth, or in my interpretation, a person's kindness.
Even if it does turn into something like shounen-ai, why would you want to stop watching it if it has a good story? If it was het i'm sure it wouldn't keep you guys from following through. Just ignore it at most. But hey, if you don't wanna watch it, go ahead. *sighs*
Jul 18, 2011 9:20 PM

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This has promise, me thinks.
Jul 19, 2011 9:38 PM

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Woah @ the animation. But its Bones so I was pretty much expecting that. Pretty much movie quality.

Plot looks convoluted and plentiful. Hope everything gets explained within the short 11 episode timespan.

Very good start. Don't care about people thinking of homoness since that's obviously not the intent.

5/5
Jul 29, 2011 6:34 AM

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Wow...I'm amazed by the people who says this show is gay or yaoi just because 2 little boys are holding hands in bed at the end...he was wounded FFS of course he would be worried about him after being drenched in heavy rain in his condition as a kid...Shows the amount of ignorant people on MAL...
I dont know much about this Kanda look-a-like kid since its only Episode 1 but it looked like he barely had anyones hands to hold onto seeing that scene must be his first time feeling someones warmth...or love (no homo) lol xD. He looks like the lone wolf type...and I love Bones (best studio ever...btw) so I'm glad I picked this up on my watch list! :D
Jul 31, 2011 6:28 AM
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Just what is wrong with you people?
I came here before I watched the episode and I was expecting something, I dunno more scandalous?
If anything what Shion did was... humane? no I didn't get any Shounen-ai vibes while watching the holding hands scene, just two cute children being nice to each other and being friends? yeah friends haven't you ever heard of being "friends"?
Even if this turns out to be Shounen-ai it would make the fangirl in me very happy, but if you wanna get vibes from somewhere, get it from somewhere right.

Anyways, done ranting, it was a good episode, I really did enjoy Mezumi's character, he felt like a Kanda's son or a young version of him.
Aug 2, 2011 3:29 AM
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I dont feel like the OP fit

I see a person getting pushed down, running away, having a gun put to his head, and apparently suffering sever psychological distress and I hear... happy jpop

umm no... I'm cool with the song and happy that the this is the band's debut but people need to learn that the OP should fit the anime otherwise it just seems like a "_______ happens while I play unfitting music" video.

the day that an anime like hellsing has an upbeat jpop OP is the day I commit suicide with a chainsaw
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