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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Death by rats = DISGUSTING. Although the monologue about self-fulfilling prophecy was interesting, turning a fictional narrative into a documentary isnt very entertaining and breaks the tempo. A lot of anime fans probably dont notice because they're too busy reading subs, but there are a lot of instances in anime where the story essentially stops and turns into a montage of slow pans of inanimate objects, or of locations, while a voice over just rambles endlessly on, providing exposition, and then afterwards in the episode thread its praised for finally "explaining the story" or "providing character development". Anime writers = STOP IT. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| I disagree with you. I think the exposition by the narrator tied the ghost story to the series as a whole pretty well, and served to make the "curse" much more interesting and real than skipping it. Same goes for the "montage of inanimate objects and locations" - it contrasts sharply with the animation and tends to bring the viewer back to reality. If nothing else, it was original. Anime writers = DON'T STOP IT. So, the curse continues because viewers want it to. Very interesting idea. I was expecting some sort of hokey supernatural explanation, but that was a pleasant surprise. |
naikou said: I disagree with you. I think the exposition by the narrator tied the ghost story to the series as a whole pretty well, and served to make the "curse" much more interesting and real than skipping it. Same goes for the "montage of inanimate objects and locations" - it contrasts sharply with the animation and tends to bring the viewer back to reality. If nothing else, it was original. Anime writers = DON'T STOP IT. The exposition tied it well, the method of the exposition sucked donkey balls. It is possible to convey all that information, and 'bring the viewer to reality' without a very cheap and lazy monoglogue/montage. I'd like to watch anime, not a crusty old man talk for 15 minutes while looking at shitty encoded buildings and crowds. Thanks. This happens in shitty Otogizoushi too, how are these people not embarrased to have their names attached to these episodes? |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| I've always been in love with Japanese horror stories mostly because of the narration style and symbolism used (best example that comes to mind is "Kaidan" or in anime "Mononoke") In a way you can say the way you tell the story is more important than the story itself. This story had the potential of becoming a very interesting and spine chilling horror story but in my opinion the story telling was not good enough. These type of Japanese stories need to go on a very slow pace , building some atmosphere for the final blow but too many things kept happening and the element of suspense was totally ignored. I hope the other two stories have better plots and direction. |
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kokuro said: I've always been in love with Japanese horror stories mostly because of the narration style and symbolism used (best example that comes to mind is "Kaidan" or in anime "Mononoke") In a way you can say the way you tell the story is more important than the story itself. This story had the potential of becoming a very interesting and spine chilling horror story but in my opinion the story telling was not good enough. These type of Japanese stories need to go on a very slow pace , building some atmosphere for the final blow but too many things kept happening and the element of suspense was totally ignored. I hope the other two stories have better plots and direction. Agreed. Although I like that they ATTEMPTED to 'break the 4th wall,' it was not done well enough. Lets hope they improve next arc... |
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| That was boring. There was nothing scary at all. Also, at the part where the guy's wife stabbed the demon lady, I found the guy's reaction strange. He straightaway ran to ask the demon lady if she was alright. Logically he should be angry at his wife and push her aside or something. He didn't even do that after checking on the demon. |
AlexSadist-sama said: That was boring. There was nothing scary at all.. I agree. ...*Yawn* I only see typical revenge death scenes. |
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| Just an "ok" story. Nothing more. |
Beatnik said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Death by rats = DISGUSTING. Although the monologue about self-fulfilling prophecy was interesting, turning a fictional narrative into a documentary isnt very entertaining and breaks the tempo. A lot of anime fans probably dont notice because they're too busy reading subs, but there are a lot of instances in anime where the story essentially stops and turns into a montage of slow pans of inanimate objects, or of locations, while a voice over just rambles endlessly on, providing exposition, and then afterwards in the episode thread its praised for finally "explaining the story" or "providing character development". Anime writers = STOP IT. Ironically, it was this last episode that was the only one that succeeded in pulling me in on any level. The rest of it, like others in this thread have already stated, was a very under developed revenge plot line and just random murders over and over. The possibility of the curse existing because of people wanting it to is so much more interesting than the actual story. |
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Beatnik said: Death by rats = DISGUSTING. That was scarry enough to make up for the whole story. |
 "Only the dead have seen the end of war". ~Plato~ |
| I feel like the narration was out of place too. Other than that, I really liked this ark. I'm kinda sad nobody else was pulled into it, because I enjoyed it immensely and it looks like you all missed out on the experience I had. |
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insan3soldiern said: Ironically, it was this last episode that was the only one that succeeded in pulling me in on any level. The rest of it, like others in this thread have already stated, was a very under developed revenge plot line and just random murders over and over. The possibility of the curse existing because of people wanting it to is so much more interesting than the actual story. I felt this way too. The last episode of the story really pulled me in and actually scared me a little. I thought this ep was brilliant. The rest, eh, not so much. |
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| The death by rats scene was probably the best one this episode had - it was the closest thing to a creepy moment so far. Anyway, I felt the underlying story was interesting because I like revenge stories; but the way it was presented here was just really generic. Uninteresting characters and poor execution really made this arc mediocre which is too bad because I have the feeling it could have been a lot better. |
| A tragic ending for many but I actually liked this chapter, the ending was very nice with the birds! Lets see what story is up next! |
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| Liked the episode until the whole documentary thing started : / This arc was alright though i'm really hoping the next one is better. |
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| There wasn't really much for the story to do after all the flash revelations in the previous episode. At least Iemon wasn't just haunted for 15 minutes (though artistically those were my favourite parts - especially the blood lake in ep 3) |
| Liked the Godessess arc more to be honest. The attempt to break the 4th wall was not too well made. |
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| I wouldn't call the story creepy, more like disturbing but it's enough to send shivers down your spine. |
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| Horror in the 19th century /=/ Modern horror. Horror in the past was meant to be disgusting, ugly, and chaotic. Modern horror makes use of fear, nervousness, and anxiety. You guys are morons |
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insan3Inquisitor said: Beatnik said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Death by rats = DISGUSTING. Although the monologue about self-fulfilling prophecy was interesting, turning a fictional narrative into a documentary isnt very entertaining and breaks the tempo. A lot of anime fans probably dont notice because they're too busy reading subs, but there are a lot of instances in anime where the story essentially stops and turns into a montage of slow pans of inanimate objects, or of locations, while a voice over just rambles endlessly on, providing exposition, and then afterwards in the episode thread its praised for finally "explaining the story" or "providing character development". Anime writers = STOP IT. Ironically, it was this last episode that was the only one that succeeded in pulling me in on any level. The rest of it, like others in this thread have already stated, was a very under developed revenge plot line and just random murders over and over. The possibility of the curse existing because of people wanting it to is so much more interesting than the actual story. My thoughts exactly. |
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| A fitting end for him , but he was a strong samurai |
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| Was it because I watch a lot of horror anime ta find this average at best or was it like that in the first place? The execution was underwhelming ta say the least and the generic revenge plot wasn't done as well as numerous other revenge anime out there. Just rewatched Ratatouille earlier this morning and I lol'd when those rats ate Okuma and Iemon. Old dude explained slightly interesting stuff about his cursed play in a very visually and atmospherically out-of-place style for most of the ep. Oiwa-san being mad at Whatishisname IV reminds me of someone who apologizes to his waifu for thinking lewd thoughts xD I think I should've watched Mononoke instead kek. I got cursed because of this,,, I hope it gets better~ |
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| I really loved the end of this, a comment on human nature. |
| I'm more kept out by the aftermath of the story than the story itself, all that talk about the adaptations if the story that had the people involved either killed or injured. I don't know what to feel about the writer at the end telling Oiwa to cures him instead of the others. That piece of shit Iemon deserted every bite from those rats, even after that, I kind of feel sorry of the guy that killed him to avenge his loved ones, he is just going to live with that until he's dead. As a starter arc, great story, even though the characters were kind of hard to keep up with, some of them were really tought out and well-written, they made me want to rewatch “The Last Samurai” for some reason. |
| The concept of the story of a ghost wife taking revenge and cursing her husband is cool but fuck was this mediocre. I don't know if it could have been better if the horror and quality along with the foundation of the main characters was better built but man, what a waste of time. Terrible recommendation I got. I didn't care at all about the old man's narration either. The story is already boring as it is. ... Hopefully Bakuneko and Monoke is good from what was suggested. 4/10. |
| I liked the way the story was complemented by a little documentary about this classic tale. To everybody complaining: maybe the story is "boring" because it actually started everything or at least was early enough to inspire other ones? :p Also, in a horror story, the characters are scared and that's enough. You might not be. Many developments in the story looked like "jump cuts", but it was still okay. That Ryunosuke Akutagawa visit was totally random though. |
St0rmbladeAug 17, 2020 4:41 PM
| Well that was lame. A terribly executed boring mess. |
| Alright this episode was def the best out of the 4 (and probably out of the series too since i've seen the second arc) so far. Thank god he suffered a gruesome death LMAO stabbed and eaten by rats alive at the same time. Good riddance. But his suffering should have been never-ending. Despicable man. Yoshichi (? mvp "curses only exist because the audience wants them to" true as hell, audiences keep curses alive and we see this all the time with conspiracy theories etc Ston3_FreeN7 said: Ironically, it was this last episode that was the only one that succeeded in pulling me in on any level. The rest of it, like others in this thread have already stated, was a very under developed revenge plot line and just random murders over and over. The possibility of the curse existing because of people wanting it to is so much more interesting than the actual story. same |
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