Merve2Love said: I suggest you buy yourself a Map^^ It's a brown country located mostly in Asia. I suggest you stop being weird. hanbeecim said: We are not a western country, and rest assured we don't need anyone to know us or make us look good, don't cry There is no reason for me to cry, you are the one who seems upset. |
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@Merve2Love We have lands that are geographically located in Europe, but we are mostly Asian. Don't insist on writing such things, they think we are trying to be European, nobody cares about this in Türkiye.
| @hanbeecim Nobody said that. And no "WE" are not mostly asian xD That's just wrong. Sorry. |
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| Well, here's the thing- consider what it's like seeing how American culture is portrayed in anime. American girls are all blonde, with massive chests, always talk loud and wear short shorts. Have you seen how Kenji Kamiyama portrayed Americans in Ghost in the Shell? "The American EMPIRE" and we're always itching to launch nukes, out of submarines driven by overweight factory laborers with beer guts. Don't forget we're stupid as fuck well, is this fair? Of course not. But it's a stereotype and we're one of the most stereotyped nation in the world... if Türkiye has gotten influential enough to be satirized- consider it an honor my friend! |
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip Is that all you know about Türkiye? It seems that way. More than half of the population is not on Erdogan's side right now, and we are not necessarily all Muslims or people who believe in another religion. That's who we are. That's how we express ourselves. If you don't like it, you can act differently for your own country.
hanbeecim said: More than half of the population is not on Erdogan's side right now Do you have any actual statistics from a reliable soıurce or are you just talking from whatever is in your mind? Who cares what you believe or not it's a FACT that Turkey is governed by AKP which is a religious party, the rest does not matter. It's not like that party came to the power on its own or stayed there for DECADES, that's all happened because TURKISH PEOPLE voted for them. If I were you I would be more worried if my country has imprisoned a rival political leader with false accusations just because they see him as a threat to the governing body and then silence the Internet to prevent people from communicating and spreading news. And after that the same government had people arrested and imprisoned just because they protested what happened. On top all of these the Turkish economy is in shambles with pretty much everything has become overpriced while having lowest quality and even gets more expensive with every passing month. Not tomention, crime is rampant with no trust in the Police or the justice system. And let's not forget the big earthquake that is bound to happen in Istanbul, yet nobody takes any preventive measures. While all these happening in one's country you need to be really shallow to worry about how some Japanese cartoon that is not even watched by many depicts your country's culture in a wrong way. Honestly, what's really wrong here is your priorities. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip You seem to know exactly what my priorities are and what I do. You are also very interested in Turkey. The only thing you don't know is that more than half of the votes Erdoğan received were from the elderly. I will give you two or three specific statistics. I will not talk to you about politics or even my own country because that does not concern you in the slightest. Take care of your own country, my friend. You or I cannot decide what you call priorities. There was some wrong information about my country and I corrected it by writing it here. If you think something is correct, write it, if not, do not try to divert the topic here and reveal your hatred.
| @hanbeecim Nice coping you have there when you have zero arguments to make, zoomer girl. Where is the hatred in my post again when all I did was to write some facts about Turkey? You didn't correct anything btw, you only satisfied your ego hurt by some fictional cartoon. |
JoeChipApr 22, 10:44 AM
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip I sent you a link specifically. I don't need any more arguments than the link I sent you. This is not a topic to present an argument on.
Ask yourself this. Why does this bother you so much? Is it that I'm defending my culture or that you're not doing the same for your own country?
And, My country is secular. I wear what I want and believe in whatever religion I want. Even under Erdogan's rule.
Ask yourself this. Why does this bother you so much? Is it that I'm defending my culture or that you're not doing the same for your own country?
And, My country is secular. I wear what I want and believe in whatever religion I want. Even under Erdogan's rule.
hanbeecim said: And, My country is secular. I wear what I want and believe in whatever religion I want. Even under Erdogan's rule. Try wearing "whatever you want" in a city like Erzurum or Konya, especially during Ramadan, and then we can talk again if Turkey is really secular or not. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip I have been to Konya many times. My aunt lives there. I wore whatever I wanted and even ate out during Ramadan.
| @hanbeecim Of course it is easy to make claims that is not possible to check if they are correct or not. |
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@SuperAdventure I don't accept this as an honor. Everyone here either insists on not understanding or is bored and looking for something to do. My friend, my culture has been shown wrong. Completely wrong. Not one or two mistakes. This is not Turkiye. This is not Turkish culture. Who cares about the US. If they are bothered, let them express it. I was bothered and I wrote.
| @hanbeecim You don't need to consider it an honor or just laugh it off like we do. But you also cannot impose your beliefs on others, or your ideas about the country on others. So it seems like a waste of time being angry about something you cannot control. It is fiction and creators have the right to portray things any way they want. So the best option seems to be just laugh it off. You're not going to change the anime. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@SuperAdventure but this is not an imposition. I'm talking about facts, not just a few personal opinions.
Just tell me if there is anything wrong with the text I wrote. Otherwise, don't continue to prolong this by telling me things I already know.
Just tell me if there is anything wrong with the text I wrote. Otherwise, don't continue to prolong this by telling me things I already know.
| @hanbeecim I kind of think you're prolonging this. I'm not going to argue about "facts", pointing out facts to me is irrelevant. You are angry about something unimportant, and something you cannot change. I suggested you could just laugh at it, you chose not to; so you're mad about this- but truly nobody cares. Fiction usually is inaccurate about facts.... that's why it's called: fiction. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip Are you serious? If you want, next time I go to Konya, I can send you a photo. What do you say?
Also, I know that there is conservatism not for Konya but for the cities in the east. In every country, there are certain regions like this. This is not related to the country's governance style.
My country is secular, my friend. Thanks to Atatürk, I live in a secular country, my friend. I wear what I want. I am free. I vote. I can go out whenever I want. I know these facts bother you a lot. I am writing them over and over again on purpose ^_^
Also, I know that there is conservatism not for Konya but for the cities in the east. In every country, there are certain regions like this. This is not related to the country's governance style.
My country is secular, my friend. Thanks to Atatürk, I live in a secular country, my friend. I wear what I want. I am free. I vote. I can go out whenever I want. I know these facts bother you a lot. I am writing them over and over again on purpose ^_^
| @hanbeecim I simply love delusional zoomer girls with a superiority complex. |
hanbeecim said: As I expected, I wrote something that was clearly known and shown as false about my own culture and I was lynched as if I had committed a crime. Even defending our own culture in this era is a tiring thing in itself. So people writing their opposing ideas and not just agreeing with you is "lynching you". Turkish people, especially religious ones, really love playing the role of victim. |
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@Merve2Love Don't digress, telling someone who tells you that you are not European to "learn geography" is the same as making a futile effort. Yes, we are from Central Asia and the vast majority of our lands are in Asia. If you are European, this shows that you are in the minority. Please don't generalize.
| @hanbeecim Psht. Dont embarras our people anymore |
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| For anyone wasting their time and energy going back and forth (unless enjoying it and choosing to do so for the rhetorical sport of debate for its own sake, which is fine and I sometimes also do), one thing should be clear: You can't argue with these type of tribal nationalist fanatics. Heard enough from ultranationalist Turks over the internet to last for a lifetime and then some (not to mention other nationalities from the Balkans region and broader MENA, India-Pakistan, etc. bringing their ethnic and religious feuds and complexes into everything). It's as purposeful and productive as talking to religious fanatics or any other kind of zealotry, or a brick wall. Better just to say your piece, make your point, and move on, as it's not worth going down the rabbit hole with their nonsense in perpetuity. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@SuperAdventure okay, okay I know it's fiction. So when will you continue to stubbornly try to change me from angry to happy when I correct incorrect information about my country, my friend? Tell me, what's your real problem?
| @hanbeecim lol why are you trying to bait people into arguing? If you don't want to agree with me just leave it. It's not important, I have already said this 3 times now. And you keep mentioning things about "correct information" - somehow you have confused "anime" with "documentary" |
Shhh, you were supposed to blend in, now we're getting deported for sure! OT: Anyway idrc, FMA is supposed to be fictional Germany, it doesn't really look it, just take the chill pill and enjoy the ride 🤠 |
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| Didn't realize that this was a series discussion and was wondering why this was on MAL for a second :sob: |
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@JoeChip The Constitution of the Republic of Türkiye article on the principles of secularism; Article 10 and Article 24.
Look at the situation you have put me in, my refugee friend. I have to prove to you that my country is secular with a constitutional article. But if it were me, instead of attacking someone who loves her country and tries to protect its values because of my own inferiority complex, I would try to understand what that person wrote.
Look at the situation you have put me in, my refugee friend. I have to prove to you that my country is secular with a constitutional article. But if it were me, instead of attacking someone who loves her country and tries to protect its values because of my own inferiority complex, I would try to understand what that person wrote.
| @hanbeecim Oh I get it now , you are actually a self-hating Arab refugee girl with PMS from Turkey, that explains everything. And in REAL secular countries people don't get arrested just becasue it says HERO on their clothes. |
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Well, here's the thing- consider what it's like seeing how American culture is portrayed in anime. American girls are all blonde, with massive chests, always talk loud and wear short shorts. Have you seen how Kenji Kamiyama portrayed Americans in Ghost in the Shell? "The American EMPIRE" and we're always itching to launch nukes, out of submarines driven by overweight factory laborers with beer guts. Don't forget we're stupid as fuck well, is this fair?
Of course not. But it's a stereotype and we're one of the most stereotyped nation in the world... if Türkiye has gotten influential enough to be satirized- consider it an honor my friend!
Of course not. But it's a stereotype and we're one of the most stereotyped nation in the world... if Türkiye has gotten influential enough to be satirized- consider it an honor my friend!
SuperAdventure said: The American EMPIRE" and we're always itching to launch nukes That's a pretty accurate portrayal of US actually. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip Number 1 fan
But he's also a bit of a dimwitted fan. Because it takes a while to understand the difference between what's real and what's opinion
But he's also a bit of a dimwitted fan. Because it takes a while to understand the difference between what's real and what's opinion
| @hanbeecim Uh-huh, that zoomer girl who screams "DAT BOIS LYNCHING MUH USS" who is actually full of shit and only victim mentality to show with nothing else to show to back up your delusions in that small brain of yours. |
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| @Merve2Love You are the one who should get yourself a map, and a reality check, if you actually think your country is in the West. Turkey is very much a Middle Eastern country, it even has a university named after it. Just because a small part of it is in Europe does not make it a western country. |
Reply to hanbeecim
@JoeChip You keep saying "no, your country is not secular" even though my country is clearly secular, I am talking about the constitution, you are talking about someone who was arrested because of the t-shirt he was wearing (as if such things do not happen in the countries that come to mind when you say the most secular country). I am starting to doubt that you even know the meaning of the word secular. You think that you are insulting me by calling me Arab even though I am Turkish, but I do not care at all, this does not change the fact that I am Turkish. In short, you have been hanging around under my comment like a rabid dog for days. Let alone the day, if you want, you can come here for years and write something, cry and try to insult me. You will never get the satisfaction you want from me in this regard. It would be good for you to struggle for years. Maybe you will have a chance to evaluate yourself since you will be a little older during this process
| @hanbeecim I made you write that malding wall of text, haven't I, Arab girl with poor grammar. That's enough amusement for me, zoomer Arab girl with PMS . Do keep posting to amuse me , maybe you could do some of those fancy bellydancing moves your people are known for LOL |
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