Tasokare Hotel Episode 4 Discussion

The staff kinda dropped the ball here, I feel like a "watch out for Masaki, he's a psycho serial killer" heads up would've gone a long way

Apart from the annoying soap-opera-like turn of events, does nobody care how this ending made no sense? Kendo genius girl didn't kill kendo achiever girl, she just scratched her, the rest was plain suicide. Why did she go to hell? This show just broke a world rule it established mere hours ago. WTF?

@Dickegrobe Cause all the rules are completely arbitrary and only apply if the plot needs it to apply. We already saw the entire premise of the hotel (recover memory + find out if you're alive or dead) completely negated by the person in question just lying whether they remember (killer) or just randomly deciding they want to work at a hotel with a serial killer (Ruri).

It's all a load of bs

With the killer staying (albeit seemingly remembering what looked like his death), they at least kinda tried to retcon with adding that you can't stay forever - which could be taken as a subtle hint that not leaving right away might be an option. Not elegant, but yea, there was at least something that could be spun into an excuse of a reason.

I see no problem with people working there, though. They have not recovered yet and just do whatever at the hotel.

But in the setup of the whole kendo girl debacle, they were very explicit about how killing someone in the hotel gets you sent to hell (no ifs or buts, just "it works like that, period.") - and then frickin ignored it. Almost like they decided to change the plot midway and completely forgot to make the ending fit (or ran out of episode budget/time because animation is hell).

With the killer staying (albeit seemingly remembering what looked like his death), they at least kinda tried to retcon with adding that you can't stay forever - which could be taken as a subtle hint that not leaving right away might be an option. Not elegant, but yea, there was at least something that could be spun into an excuse of a reason.

I see no problem with people working there, though. They have not recovered yet and just do whatever at the hotel.

But in the setup of the whole kendo girl debacle, they were very explicit about how killing someone in the hotel gets you sent to hell (no ifs or buts, just "it works like that, period.") - and then frickin ignored it. Almost like they decided to change the plot midway and completely forgot to make the ending fit (or ran out of episode budget/time because animation is hell).

@sodrainz nothing was negated by Osoto or Ruri staying though? Nobody said they aren't allowed to lie about it, and in the first place, we don't know yet whether not Osoto has recalled if he's alive or dead. Ruri worked at the hotel way before Osoto came. There's nothing strange with that.

@Dickegrobe from what I understand, the "killer" is determined by the use of the weapon that caused one's death. Although it was suicide, in a sense Kiyoe "made" Nagomu kill her by keeping her hand in place to fulfill Osoto's lie. It's a bit of a reach, but it makes a bit more sense thinking of it that way.

It also makes sense why Osoto was not punished, since he did not kill anyone physically. It's definitely unfair and upsetting — that's the point.

@tsukaharaneko Sure it was. Every other character was rushed/compelled to leave after things were figured out. Even the kendo girl with her bullshit ending was compelled to run out of the hotel for no apparent reason.

The only "guests" that stay beyond the entire purpose of the hotel are the main characters because the plot requires it.

The idea that you can't stay forever is also bullshit because we know inherently that that would never actually be an issue because it would require Ruri to magically know when she has stayed too long or a main character randomly vanishes and we also inherently know it won't apply to Osoto because the primary antagonist isn't going to randomly vanish.

@sodrainz because they aren't hotel staff and Ruri is working there and being paid? The only character this argument would work for is Osoto, since he is still a guest. Everyone else in the main cast are hotel staff.

Riru told us early on she knows she's alive and know why she's here so staying to work there is not a result of still figuring out anything.

@sodrainz Hello, I saw this and am now rewatching scenes with Ruri, but I cannot find where she said she is alive? I only found a scene in ep 2 where she said she works in the hotel because she likes cooking and gets paid.

this was an unexpectedly dark episode
dying because of a falling shelf was a little dumb but still better than falling on a pointed fence

Oh for f*cks sake! They really need to keep a closer eye on the killer, even better just lock him up already! Nagomu ending up in hell is so unfair, Kiyoe ended up killing herself after all!! The ending of this episode is really infuriating, instead of one of the girls returning to the living world and the other going to the after life, one ends up in hell and the other just disappears like that. That's way too cruel of a fate for these two girls... and all that, just so we can see how evil of a guy Osoto can be even without directly killing anyone. I hope that guy eventually rots in hell for this... just wish Nagomu didn't have too as well :(

I do not like seeing cute girls who are victims being sent to Hell to be tortured for eternity. I did not like this episode. I thought this show was supposed to be more of a comedy.