Is this what passes as seinen anime these days?

The gender and age of cast doesn't decide the demographic, its the situations, themes, violence, sex, cruelty that decides the demographic... Stories like Made in Abyss, Attack on Titan can be easily classified as Seinen even on the first look it doesn't seem like that... Why don't you wait for 6 episodes to really decide whether this story is a Seinen or not

@Kira_Illusionist

Your nonsense demographic definition ignores the fact how demographic is determined is not about themes, violence, sex or whatever but simply the decision of the publisher along with the mangaka. Otherwise manga like K-On or Kaguya-sama would be shounen instead of seinen. Not to mention, demographic could change depending on the situation like Vinland Saga which started as shounen manga then became seinen. Made in Abyss is a webmanga therefore it does not have a demographic otherwise it would be seinen. And Attack of Titan's poularity is a testament of it being a shounen manga, it has nothing to with "situations, themes, violence, sex, cruelty".

It's ironic how a guy with a Naruto character baits mal users with his supposed seinen elitism just because mal people can'T ignore the bait because of their ego and write essays to correct the troll OP.

@mccreepyy thats kinda my point...how or why does a weak looking main cast that looks like they belong in a CGDCT anime meant for young teens & beta-male trash weebs end up with main roles in a seinen meant for adults?

have the standards dropped so hard?

@ItachiDeltaForce Well, if you haven't noticed, this is an anime adaptation of a pretty old manga that started like 21 years ago (back in 2004), so well, rather than standards dropped so hard, it's more like those were the standards way back then.

Like I said, Crayon shin chan is an adult comedy sitcom. What you are referring to is "Adult Cast". You sound like "I hate this cuz it has children, dogs, cats, girls, idols, etc and if it has cute stuffs, it is not manly to watch and seinen needs to be something manly". It doesn't matter if the main character is a kid or the art style is not edgy, it's the "story" that matters. You are saying that 12 yo shouldn't be the mc but what if he has a dark past and trauma and his backstory is like that of Guts or something. Trauma, tragedy, etc doesn't depend on age. If you can't understand the depth of a character just cuz he/she is 12 yo shows that you are not mature enough for the demographic itself and instead are looking for something really dark and edgy. Let me tell you that a demographic and a genre are different. Also, This anime fits right into the group of dark fantasy with Berserk, Claymore, etc. If looks bother you, then you are still not at the age where you are specifically a target audience for this demographic. A story doesn't need serious looking adult characters to be seinen as the story defines what is Seinen. If it something older men will understand and have interest in, it is Sienen.

Reading all these comments on this forum was the most useless thing I've done this year.

Replying to the main forum post: yes, that's what seinen anime is these days. If you don't like effeminate characters, it would be better not to watch it, but since you said you will give it a chance, good luck. But I don't recommend it, considering that you yourself said that you don't like effeminate characters.

@mccreepyy thats kinda my point...how or why does a weak looking main cast that looks like they belong in a CGDCT anime meant for young teens & beta-male trash weebs end up with main roles in a seinen meant for adults?

have the standards dropped so hard?

@mccreepyy thats kinda my point...how or why does a weak looking main cast that looks like they belong in a CGDCT anime meant for young teens & beta-male trash weebs end up with main roles in a seinen meant for adults?

have the standards dropped so hard?

It's seinen because manga was published in seinen magazine Big Gangan. https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/705/Big_Gangan

@Kira_Illusionist

Your nonsense demographic definition ignores the fact how demographic is determined is not about themes, violence, sex or whatever but simply the decision of the publisher along with the mangaka. Otherwise manga like K-On or Kaguya-sama would be shounen instead of seinen. Not to mention, demographic could change depending on the situation like Vinland Saga which started as shounen manga then became seinen. Made in Abyss is a webmanga therefore it does not have a demographic otherwise it would be seinen. And Attack of Titan's poularity is a testament of it being a shounen manga, it has nothing to with "situations, themes, violence, sex, cruelty".

You know there's no such thing as "seinen anime", right? Seinen is a MANGA DEMOGRAPHY. Bocchi the Rock is seinen and so is Berserk. Let that info sink in real good.

@ManoCustaff

What you mean is demographic, demography is the wrong word to use here. While technically you have a point anime directors sometimes refer to the anime they directed as seinen or shounen anime etc. You should let them know they are wrong too.

why do you sound like some andrew tate watching top g sigma wolf? Why does it piss you off that a seinen doesn't have an adult cast? It's just a demographic group, nothing more. For instance there's a slice of life seinen called Hanamaru Youchien which is about a kindergarten teacher's daily life among kindergarteners... if you try to strictly associate a demographic group with specific themes and rules that you personally approve of/like, you just set yourself up for disappointment.

You're projecting so hard with the whole "beta cucks" rant, it's hilarious. You're like edgy kids from 2016

@griddyweeb

I will play devil's advocate and say Hanamaru Youchien manga actually has quite a few adult themes in it, including a high school teacher impregnating her student and there is the not-so-innocent love of a little child and her antics, which is the centre of the story . There was even a dream sequence where a grown up Anzu searching a way to make her boobs bigger so her teacher might fall in love with her.
Of course you don't see these in the much tamer and innocent anime adaptation.