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| Finally, it is here. As an absolute Mayuri fanboy I was waiting for this episode for years and this serves it justice. No doubt, that it has to be the immoral, repulsive and disgusting yet somehow necessary kind of evil with his man. The way his Bankai is just a canvas of whatever he wants it to be instead of a never changing ultimate weapon as with other soul reapers just says it all. To add insult to injury he uses quincy techniques casually against them and sidetracks Unohana's sucessor as a half dead corps at the side of track. 10/10 100/100 1000/1000! Can't wait for next week |
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| Mayuri's Bankai is somehow even creepier than it was before. I love seeing him show why he's an absolute menace to the Soul Society, yet also one of its greatest defenders. |
| Even though I missed Ichigo this episode. Kenichi was usual in his raw moments. As expected Kurotsuchi always filled with Curious tendencies, outshines the funnily named Left arm guy the Pernida Pernkjas. Hahaha. The ending moments of this episode was pure awesomeness. |
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Reply to Nerdason
Yeah Mr Mayuri Yeah Science!
| @Nerdason Hahaha that face is beautiful to revel as usual. Had missed him a lot happy to see with his curious face back. |
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Reply to DoctorBryce
What even is this show man this is so lame
| @DoctorBryce I see the Kurotsuchi's anaesthesia is not only for Zaraki I guess. Doctor Bryce I salute you for Pernida Parnkjas yourself. Wow! |
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Reply to MichalYo
It was a good episode overall, but defending or even praising the CGI in this instance feels like the epitome of blindly fanboy behavior. This series undeniably boasts some of the best animation and lighting I've ever seen, but let's stay grounded and avoid deluding ourselves.
| @MichalYo Except most of the great animation in during actions scenes in Bleach TYBW uses CGI, including the very best cuts of this episode. It's less about fanboys, and more about people not being educated enough about what they are even complaining about. 3DCGI has been all over this adaptation since the first cour, but people seems to complain only when they go for uncanny usages of it (the bizarre motions and rate of frames for Sajin in cour 1 or the hands here, for instance, which by all means were on purpose, an artistic choice; they are so polished you can see diversified shading in colors and reflection when there's movement, this is no bad quality CG at all). |
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| they absolutely gave this fight justice and its second half is gonna be even crazier |
| The dialogues between Mayuri and Kenpachi are the next level of absurdism. |
Reply to evangelionfan
@SoulReaper01_ mayuri never lose even though no shuunpo, just science
| @evangelionfan Mayuri is just that guy 🔥 |
| This was creepy, disgusting, funny, entertaining and thrilling at the same time. Probably my favourite episode in this cour. I was expecting Zaraki to break through Mayuri's poison spell and come charging at some point. |
| Throughout the entire episode, my thoughts were "wtf am I even watching?" it was weird and disgusting. those three Quincy who think they can beat Ychwah HAHAHA good luck, I would like to see it. ''the Thing'' didn't look that good in cgi, but I've seen worse. Overall, I didn't like it very much. Zaraki didn't show off his intelligence either. I mean, he was never smart, but if it weren't for this freak, he would have died after two blows. Suddenly everyone has some bankai with an upgrade. Why didn't they use this before? XD |
| Mayuri is a crazy scientist. He is one of his league. It would be great to see the shinigami defeat some enemies too. |
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| The CGI was shit and the animation looked bad in several scenes, especially when Kenpachi's arm started twisting rapidly and when Mayuri operated on his own arm. Dunno why it looked so bad; they've animated fast sequences before without it looking like crap. Overall Mayuri's monologues were annoying too even though it was basically the same in the manga. |
| Congratz to Bleach for going 400 episodes strong! Now this is what I call an unnerving battle, so to say. Mayuri and Pernida are both very dangerous characters in many ways. |
| This was fantastic from start to finish. Mayuri is so cool. I had frogotten how crazy he could be. The OST that played when Pernida made the first appearance sounded so good that I need to find the name asap. Overall, it was my favourite episode of this cour by far. |
Reply to MichalYo
It was a good episode overall, but defending or even praising the CGI in this instance feels like the epitome of blindly fanboy behavior. This series undeniably boasts some of the best animation and lighting I've ever seen, but let's stay grounded and avoid deluding ourselves.
| But not everyone shares your opinion that "all CGI" = "bad CGI." The entire episode looked great to me. |
| “No, you can’t have a show where everybody’s Krillin!” – Shinpachi |
| Creepy and bad*ss episode. Also, I can't believe the left arm was a quincy or helping the quincy. Definitely mysterious. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Kurotsuchi and Kenpachi are such a funny pair lol Mayuri always provides a very interesting and crazy fight and this is definitely no exception Those things with human faces on them that he was slinging freaked me out lol |
| oh god, that was not it. and not just because of the cg, just nothing to like about an episode with that much mayuri. now maybe if nemu was there- |
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| The only Deus Ex Machina character I respect, because he is characterized and personified so perfectly and entertainingly for the label. |
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How do I know that? I have the same frame saved since it was released back in October 15th, 2015, I have seen it multiple time through the years, specially as my background image. |
Reply to Mainnus
What a disturbing bankai... birthing scene ugh, unholy.
| @Mainnus Just don't watch Uzumaki episode 2 in proximity. *shudder* |
| So Pernida has been exposed for what "It" truly is. Man, I can't wait for the Anime only Bleach fans to see what a certain other Schutzstaffel member has in store for the Shinigami's Final Stand. Sooooooo fucking hyped for this y'all...truly! It'll truly blow Anime only fans MINDS! 🧡 <----Oh, and that's SUPPOSED to be an ORANGE HEART...Ya know...For Ichigo...Haha still looks pretty red to ME, but its whatever then. 😅 |
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| I think the usage of 3DCG on Pernida wasn't that bad at all. Then we get to see new antics and modifications from Mayuri especially his Bankai. Though it's a bit weird based from the next episode's title that it will have both the culmination of the Mayuri vs Pernida fight and the start of the Kyouraku vs Lille fight. We'll see how the next episode will play out. |
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| advancement vs. Evolution. In a battle between the two of em, it appears that evolution was the greatest. |
 "You said it yourself. You put everything you have on those scales of yours. Because if you merely followed others, while being lost and adrift yourself... without ever truly weighing your decisions and consequences... then you just may come to regret everything." |
| Mayuri got creepier. Never thought it was possible. |
| I think Mayuri is my 2nd favorite character of Bleach, man, that was fun. What a fucking weirdo lol |
| This was a true clash of the Giants, Mayuri is so unhinged, With prep time he's invincible! |
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| Manga readers know Lille Barro looking through his rifle Uryuu was a big hint of what is to come, just like Jugram watching over in the last episode. But even without the manga knowledge, I'm sure many noticed how these two people were watching if Uryuu would handle his job. Because of this, the rest of the Shinigami got to escape...for now. Liltotto mentioning Bazz-B wanting to settle things between him and Jugram kind of promised an upcoming flashback. Not sure if they'll have time to cover it in this course as we're already so far in it. After all, just this recent fight took a good chunk of the episode. Not that I mind...wait, that's a lie. I DO MIND! And that's because Pernida Parnkgjas was disgusting and Mayuri's altered Bankai was disgusting. Who needs horror when they can watch Bleach anime? Who needs to watch anything disgusting when they have Bleach anime? Maybe to some, it wasn't like that, but personally, to me it was. Despite that, I think Mayuri vs. Pernida was...interesting. Even though Mayuri slicing off Pernida who kept growing his hand/arm back wasn't that pleasant to watch. Not to mention Ashisogi Jizo's modified form and it basically gives birth to a new one. Despite that, it was interesting how Mayuri held his long monologues, mused aloud, and asked questions when just moments ago he had been mocking Kenpachi about it. Personally, the first half where Kenpachi and Mayuri exchanged sassy retorts between each other was best. It showed Kenpachi could very well keep up with Mayuri and vice versa, even though Mayuri tried to best Kenpachi with his science talk. Which clearly was too much for Pernida... but admirably, Pernida was evolving throughout the whole battle. Which makes me wonder...why Pernida was so different from Mimihagi? Pernida had his eye on the inside of his hand while Mimihagi had his eye on the back of the hand. Mimihagi had only one pupil while Pernida had two (which clearly confused both Kenpachi and Mayuri at first as they seemed to think Pernida was a humanoid being). Pernida had chains in his fingernails which he broke when he revealed himself, making it look like Pernida had been restrained by someone or something or he, himself (or should I call Pernida it? Them? I'll settle for now to 'he' because Soul King was male and since it seemed like Pernida had managed to gain an ego, even chastising Mayuri about that subject, I'll grant [like Mayuri, lol] him a pronoun) had restrained himself. While Mimihagi seemed like some actual minor kami. Though, in a way both Mimihagi and Pernida seemed to be restrained. Mimihagi was restrained by being a shapeless thing who had to settle into another living people, while Pernida was more easily breakable. Interesting how those two seemed to be similar in that aspect, yet in different manners. Not talking about the duality of the other one being on the side of the Shinigami and the other on the side of the Quincies. It seemed like they were each other's opposites through and through. This begs the question just where Mayuri got that book that told about Soul King's hands? Like, I feel like the subject of Soul King (before the Thousand-Year Blood War arc) was a very hush-hush topic, but it seems some actual facts (in the form of books were circulating around that "normal" Shinigami could investigate. Or maybe got into the wrong library (as in that flashback it seemed to be a room full of books) that kind of played its part why did he end up in Nest of Maggots? I could very well see a Shinigami getting jail time if they would snoop around about Soul King when it wouldn't be any of their business! Mayuri being a curious cookie could explain that. Not writing about the fact, why it felt like Mayuri was underestimating Pernida? (Those who have read the manga know what I mean.) There were moments when it seemed like Mayuri had lost a bit of his edge (again, this seems to be a reoccurring event if we think about Urahara and Aizen), he even admitted it when he fixed his own arm. Which reminds me, why Pernida and Mimihagi were called Soul King's hands? They were clearly arms. Also, Pernida's CGI at times was fine, and at times not at all. If it was on purpose like that (for a disgusting/fear factory) it then succeeded in that, but if not, then no. And I'm pretty sure the elbow's anatomy was most of the time with Pernida wrong. It looked just...wrong and not in a good way. But back to Mayuri. It felt like he was a bit out of tune, which made Nemu's concern toward him justified. Not talking about Nemu's hints/worries over the fact Mayuri might have changed. It was interesting to watch Nemu interact with Ikkaku and Yumichika as it felt like parallels. They all were worried about their own captains and seemed to be very in tune about that -surprisingly! Also, good thing Ikkaku and Yumichika were positioned in there, just so they could drag Kenpachi away before Mayuri's battle with Pernida got more heated! Hopefully, Kenpachi will be fixed just so he won't be left out of the upcoming action. Wait, I just realized I didn't see Hanataro anywhere in this episode. In the last episode, he was still with Mayuri, Kenpach,i and the company, but now he had disappeared. I suppose he got left behind? Or, if he was in the episode, I missed him, but I suppose we'll see him again at some point. The ending speech and card...I couldn't recognize who was talking in it (unless it was Kyoraku? I'm not honestly sure) or the symbolism of pine needles...but the next episode's title gave me big Kyoraku vibes, hence, I associated that ending 'poem' to him (If anyone remembers Kyoraku's shikai ability Kageoni). But I could be fully wrong. |
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| The elephant in the room was not really the elephant in the room. Yes, b-movie level CGI. Yes, Pernida had no fluidity whatsoever. But, these big fights, even going back to Yama vs Royd feel like "it's ok, but something is missing". I'm afraid that Shunsui is not going to be treated in a different way. In other words, just reading the manga or watching soulmadness' videos felt so, so much better. Not really bashing the animators, it's a miracle that we reached to a point where TYBW is being animated and Hell arc is right around the corner. Just praising the manga format and it's unique property of letting scenes develop into their full glory. All of TYBW animation feels rushed as hell to me. Not enough time to smell the roses.. |
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neffst3r said: Mayuri's body horror aspect is so disgusting yet you can't help but love him as a character. The Spider-Man/Attack on Titan sequence was awesome, but yea, not much to say about this episode because my favorite aspects about BABY, HOLD YOUR HAND involve Nemu and will actually happen in the next one. Fight isn't over yet, guys. Next episode is the whole climax of the fight + has potential to be one of the greatest Bleach episodes ever, and I'm not talking about fucking animation or sakuga, I'm talking character development, seriously, we'll see a side of Mayuri that we've never seen before.  Idk if you saw the poem at the end or not?? but it's following the manga directly and we will begin with the other big fight of this cour.. I reckon they are doing it side by side with mayuri fight probably ending the episode after this one?. |
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