Am I missing something? Why is the score so high?

Jul 14, 10:50 AM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

Are you just here to talk shit or are you gonna give this a real try and see what it actually is instead of being biased?

Jul 14, 10:53 AM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

If you're gonna question the rank then stop watching it
7.2 get real
You act like the second episode didn't elaborate certain things for you

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Jul 14, 11:03 AM

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Yeah ppl enjoy visuals so thats why the rating is so high i can agree that the plot is quite mediocre as i read the manga before. It will probably level off at an 8 or high 7 👍

Jul 14, 11:04 AM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

the score is high because until now it's been a good show ....
if it becomes bad in the later episodes then the score will also go downhill....

Jul 14, 11:08 AM

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I never understand posts like this lol. No you’re not “missing something” people just clearly have a different opinion from you and that’s fine.

Jul 14, 11:13 AM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

Are you just here to talk shit or are you gonna give this a real try and see what it actually is instead of being biased?

@PunGood020 Not sure what your definition of a real try is. I watched as much as I felt was adequate, though to be fair the higher score may have gotten my expectations up a bit. Still the other discussions I've seen seem to make me think the score might be artificially inflated for some reason. I'm just curious if there is good reason (It gets good and I just need to push through until a certain point) or it is scoring well because of other reasons outside of its actual quality and merits.

Jul 14, 11:22 AM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

The animation *is* the only good thing about it. You’re exactly right but everyone retaliates on these forums at anyone who doesn’t love every show

Jul 14, 11:27 AM

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AuthorityofWeeb said:
I never understand posts like this lol. No you’re not “missing something” people just clearly have a different opinion from you and that’s fine.

I think it’s because sometimes you watch a show and even if you don’t like it, you understand the appeal. But when you don’t like a show *and* don’t understand why others like it, it can feel like everyone else is seeing something you aren’t

I think that’s why these posts get made but yeah I agree that it’s not all that complicated

Jul 14, 11:30 AM

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Whatever19 said:

Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

the score is high because until now it's been a good show ....
if it becomes bad in the later episodes then the score will also go downhill....

I think the question is - always - about in comparison to other shows in this season, e.g. Elusive Samurai or Shoushimin.
Hyouka had an 8 and Shoushimin is from the same author and it's a pretty similar show. Elusive Samurai has the best animation so far with a unique story if we don't count the continuations.

I also started Wistoria because of the high score, but this didn't look like a show that would get an 8 from the start.

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Jul 14, 11:41 AM

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WTF! now I checked and WTF 8.12, really?!!! how? I admit battle shounen isn't the place where I suppose to find any logic, but this show has nothing but then overwhelming animation. last ep practically was like this- if he got his sword then he can even invincible against Curse lord Sukuna lmao. people are blinded over animation.

Jul 14, 11:44 AM

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There's nothing wrong with the story. It's tried and true shonen/fantasy tropes and executed extremely well. It's no surprise people love it. I think it's fantastic too

Jul 14, 12:01 PM

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PaperCutAssassin said:

AuthorityofWeeb said:
I never understand posts like this lol. No you’re not “missing something” people just clearly have a different opinion from you and that’s fine.

I think it’s because sometimes you watch a show and even if you don’t like it, you understand the appeal. But when you don’t like a show *and* don’t understand why others like it, it can feel like everyone else is seeing something you aren’t

I think that’s why these posts get made but yeah I agree that it’s not all that complicated

I see what you’re saying, that makes sense

Jul 14, 12:15 PM

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While I also personally think it is a little too high too (Looks greats but plot and characters are basic) people have opinions. If the score is high, people think it’s good.

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Jul 14, 12:51 PM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
@PunGood020 Not sure what your definition of a real try is. I watched as much as I felt was adequate, though to be fair the higher score may have gotten my expectations up a bit. Still the other discussions I've seen seem to make me think the score might be artificially inflated for some reason. I'm just curious if there is good reason (It gets good and I just need to push through until a certain point) or it is scoring well because of other reasons outside of its actual quality and merits.

This shows that you just dont have fun watching anime, if you dont then just stop watching and do smth "better" with your life if you are so pressed on thinking its smth else rather than it just being from the author of danmachi which is a series that is held in high regards for many things, yet there is always a couple maggots that dont understand things and want to rant on it for no apparent reason.

Jul 14, 12:53 PM

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Antisocial-Weeb said:
"Am I missing something?"
Yes dude, you are, you are definitely missing some proper workable brain cells which is restricting your decision making ability and particular judgement reasoning.
Welp there's nothing we can do.
Either buy some brain cells from amazon or don't make stupid threads like this.

I was exactly thinking that too 🤣

Jul 14, 1:01 PM

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Actually please never have an opinion ever again

Jul 14, 1:16 PM

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People like it, so they give it a high score. Simple.

Jul 14, 1:22 PM

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Cringyroll is paying people to talk positively about this show...

Jul 14, 1:29 PM

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"support carried"......"7.2-6.1" ??

Jeez. Watching Anime must be such a chore, for you.

Jul 14, 1:29 PM

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lol the guy just asked a question and now he has his entire family held hostage.

Otherwise, it's incredible how this show can easily reach 8.00, meanwhile most good show this season can't even get past 7.00.

Jul 14, 1:29 PM

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One thing to keep in mind is that newer anime fans always exist, so despite a veteran watcher probably not seeing anything that unique outside the visuals the score gets a boost

Also author bias, since people love Danmachi

Jul 14, 1:58 PM

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Reply to EcchiGodMamster

One thing to keep in mind is that newer anime fans always exist, so despite a veteran watcher probably not seeing anything that unique outside the visuals the score gets a boost

Also author bias, since people love Danmachi

@EcchiGodMamster Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for summed up well. I didn't think decently good animation alone could push a C tier story to top five of season.

Jul 14, 2:03 PM

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Same thing as with all the titles with low count of ratings. It would make more sense, be it Shoujo demographic. It is by no means bad, but neither does it deserve the 8/10. The animation is deceptively good. The fight in ep 2 was made to look impressive but lot's of duochromatic explosions do not seem like much. So far the only thing I am truly thankful is the lack of 3D. Factually, it is 6.5-7/10 in terms of the genre (unless it becomes better/worse with the coming episodes). The story is nothing but a blend of several other titles, just a somewhat balanced one. Give it time. Once it gets into recommended lists for wider audience, people will set the proper rating.

Personal note:
I'd put it a 5/10 just because of the epic setting of "maintaining the sky running" is being discarded in favour of "muh love story".

I am a connoisseur of plot, but I do love the "plot".

Jul 14, 2:19 PM

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I was also surprised by the score. This anime has decent animation and quality, fights are ok - while they aren't near anime with really excellent fights, they're decent. In the story department, they're just standard shounen. The characterization is fine.

I think the quality of many modern anime (and other media) is so low nowadays that when something has decent animation and isn't completely hopeless on the plot front, it appears better than it is.

For example, the evil professor here. He is shown to be intolerant of magic-less student who wants to become the pinnacle of mages. But he says he wouldn't have problems with the protagonist studying there if he didn't strive to be a mage (which is common sense tbh - why should one be allowed to become the master of magic without a command of magic?), he cares about his students and keeps his word. It's 2 dimensional characterization. Not overly ambitious but average overall.

But now, if we take how a similar character would be characterized in other anime, it'd be as follows - he hates the main character only for being a peasant, he would put aristocratic students on a pedestal only because they are aristocracy, he is the one who sends the big monster only to kill the main character, he wouldn't keep his word to give the hero credit (or he wouldn't make the promise at all) and in an episode or two he would attack the hero directly and hero would be forced to kill him. The characterization of this character in this anime is 2 dimensional but compared to 1 dimensional characterization that is common nowadays, it seems better than it is.

This anime has decent animation, with a-little-more-than-1-dimensional characterization and a cliched story. But compared to anime with a cliched story, only below average 1-dimensional characters and poor animation, this one towers above.

Tl;dr: I'd say that modern standards got so low that something average seems to be excellent in comparison. EDIT: Also, as people mention, some younger people didn't experience anything better and they might be biased towards something that rises above the below-average as they don't know better.

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Jul 14, 3:45 PM

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Animation + mc is a fake underdog but actually overpowered

+ maybe die-hard fans of the source material spamming 10/10 as soon as possible, we will be able to tell for sure that this happened if the score will get lower in the next few weeks (when more non-die-hard fans will start watching and rating it).

Jul 14, 3:54 PM

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Big monsters, multiple love interests, I want to be the very best, nice sakuga, the classic underdog, magic fantasy world, tasty impact frames, and a giant sword. I don’t care if the story is generic or “bad”, it’s just a fun show to fill the action/sakuga void in this season and I’m here for it.

Nothing wrong with enjoying some art!

Gachiakuta is the greatest manga of all time

Jul 14, 4:43 PM

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Easily digestible action story and it looks amazing, all you really need for this site

Jul 14, 5:55 PM

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Reply to Nirinbo

Animation + mc is a fake underdog but actually overpowered

+ maybe die-hard fans of the source material spamming 10/10 as soon as possible, we will be able to tell for sure that this happened if the score will get lower in the next few weeks (when more non-die-hard fans will start watching and rating it).

@Nirinbo the source material is not very popular or well-known, most of us never read the manga

Jul 14, 6:01 PM

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It’s because the animation is phenomenal lol. The plot is def. mediocre. Character motivations are mid, but relatable enough. And the characters themselves are also likable enough. It’s not particularly bad in any area, and *really* excels in terms of animation. I think an 8 might be high, personally, but not completely unreasonable. But I mean what do you expect? People have totally different metrics for how they rate things, and I know good animation can go a long way for a lot of folks. (Myself included)

Jul 14, 7:28 PM

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The production quality i guess, its cliche but good still

Not every show needs to be super original

Jul 14, 7:48 PM

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U must not keep track of ratings much. Many shows initially have a far higher rating than after the whole season has come out. Let me introduce you to an idea you likely haven’t considered either. What if people don’t rate an anime at all until it’s finished? This probably would skew ratings if all the people that don’t rate an anime till they watch the whole thing have a similar opinion of the anime. Take a second to think outside your box and I’m sure you can come up with many reasons why ratings are the way they are.

Jul 14, 8:13 PM

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High rating because the first episodes have been solid fym bruh 🤦‍♂️

Jul 14, 9:16 PM

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deg

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yes youre missing the demon slayer effect for mainstream anime fans

Jul 14, 10:07 PM

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there are much worse stuff rated higher, so i'm fine with this.

Jul 15, 5:10 AM

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Antisocial-Weeb said:
"Am I missing something?"
Yes dude, you are, you are definitely missing some proper workable brain cells which is restricting your decision making ability and particular judgement reasoning.
Welp there's nothing we can do.
Either buy some brain cells from amazon or don't make stupid threads like this.

He isnt wrong. This anime is the next demon slayer.

Jul 15, 6:09 AM

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Antisocial-Weeb said:
"Am I missing something?"
Yes dude, you are, you are definitely missing some proper workable brain cells which is restricting your decision making ability and particular judgement reasoning.
Welp there's nothing we can do.
Either buy some brain cells from amazon or don't make stupid threads like this.

He isnt wrong. This anime is the next demon slayer.

@AuStErPlAy_2301 If the story quality is roughly the same as Danmachi (since it's by the same author), then I can confidently say that you are wrong to lump it together with Demon Slayer, because it will definitely be much worse.

Jul 15, 6:54 AM

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AuStErPlAy_2301 said:

Antisocial-Weeb said:
"Am I missing something?"
Yes dude, you are, you are definitely missing some proper workable brain cells which is restricting your decision making ability and particular judgement reasoning.
Welp there's nothing we can do.
Either buy some brain cells from amazon or don't make stupid threads like this.

He isnt wrong. This anime is the next demon slayer.

You have Aizen as ur pfp bro.
Atleast make some proper judgement.
If Aizen was here, he wouldn't be so proud of ur comment😰

Jul 15, 10:25 AM

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Yeah ppl enjoy visuals so thats why the rating is so high i can agree that the plot is quite mediocre as i read the manga before. It will probably level off at an 8 or high 7 👍

@Zerzo i mean, anime is there for a reason, and the main component is the ANIMEation, if you think the plot is mediocre, maybe anime maybe just not for you

Jul 15, 10:30 AM

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honeoeo said:
@Zerzo i mean, anime is there for a reason, and the main component is the ANIMEation, if you think the plot is mediocre, maybe anime maybe just not for you

What does this mean bro that is not coherent. Do you only watch a piece of media for the visuals? Just cause anime is constantly in motion doesn’t mean you can’t critique any other component of it. Plenty of anime with minimal sakuga and still very good, a good plot/storyline is a prerequisite though 😔

Jul 15, 12:29 PM

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Ready_Player_1 said:
I'll admit the animation quality is good but that is the only good thing I'm seeing about this anime. Does the story get good all of a sudden or maybe the manga was really popular like Solo Leveling was and I'm just seeing the fan support carried over to the anime? This plot feels like a 7.2-6.1 and the animation alone doesn't feel worth it to bring the score to a 8 level.

the score is high because until now it's been a good show ....
if it becomes bad in the later episodes then the score will also go downhill....

I think the question is - always - about in comparison to other shows in this season, e.g. Elusive Samurai or Shoushimin.
Hyouka had an 8 and Shoushimin is from the same author and it's a pretty similar show. Elusive Samurai has the best animation so far with a unique story if we don't count the continuations.

I also started Wistoria because of the high score, but this didn't look like a show that would get an 8 from the start.

@ktg
I think not everyone is watching every show of the season..
Also I think it's high score is responsible for it's similarity with Mashle.. people enjoyed that one very much in the previous seasons & this show is same with a more realistic approach.. that's why people are enjoying it ..
It's just Mashle with a serious tone....

Jul 15, 7:33 PM

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It honestly amazes me watching threads like this pop up on every single anime that garners unexpected attention. Yeah, the animation is great and the story is simplistic, but we are 2 episodes in and people are already complaining about scores? This show was on my plan to watch list forever and the only thread I ever saw was people who read it being excited for an adaptation… but the moment that animation is noteworthy or some shocking scene happens in EPISODE 1 (like Oshi no Ko) these damn threads pop up bitching about scores. Watch or don’t watch, wait til the whole thing is over, and score things how you feel fit. Who cares what anyone else does? Idk why everyone’s always trying to prove how great their taste is by complaining about high scores for material “too simplistic to them.”

Jul 15, 8:26 PM

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And about the score: your merit is not always the same as other people's, everyone evaluates it in their own way and that's the end of it. Only two episodes came out, so questioning this is unnecessary.

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