High Card Episode 3 Discussion

Jan 23, 2023 6:49 AM

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Another really good episode. “Pray to the fire pray to the fire” lmao fire cult was definitely interesting, fight scene in the warehouse was over the top as we’ve come to expect . Fun little episode to introduce the new boss. Leo is really cool, like him a lot already.

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Jan 23, 2023 6:57 AM

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It's High Card monday, yes, and with it a new character just showed. Some posh kid that turned out to be a money player and a manager at High Card. Can't judge appearances too soon huh? Meanwhile, the show continues to be classy and next time we'll probably go into Wendy's card.

3 episodes mark, success.

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Jan 23, 2023 7:03 AM

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Man, Studio Hibari/Lerche just does spectacular on this title, even if they work under supervision of Toms Entertainment (and its anime studio) ...

It has kindly strong message to Kadokawa, especially after the disaster of Classroom Of The Elite Season 2 and the days to Classroom Of The Elite Season 3 ...

Jan 23, 2023 7:14 AM

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does anyone know the specifics of how leo's power works? it seems kinda lousy, like an amazon express power. like, instead of bringing money, they could have just brought a bazooka, y'know? the 2 card is a gun and can generate bullets, I'd say it's a pretty darn good card in comparison. that fire one seems to be pretty OP too, along with the immortality one.

Jan 23, 2023 7:27 AM

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Another great episode! Definitely the best music I've heard so far in this season :D

But I have to ask, does Finn's ability to shoot straight only work with that revolver of his? Like I feel it would only work with that one right? Since his ability summons that revolver and seemingly infinite rounds. I feel like some people don't get that -_-

Jan 23, 2023 7:52 AM

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Another entertaining episode this week with some new villains and a new character, Leo. He has an interesting power, though it feels like a nerfed "The Great Fitzgerald" power from Francis in Bungou Stray Dogs to be honest. If that's what a seven power is, I wonder how overpowered an ace will be.

Jan 23, 2023 8:42 AM

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Fun episode with cool action sequences. Although i do wish the villain was more interesting or we went a lil more into her backstory cause she had a cool design and powers. 4/5

Jan 23, 2023 10:04 AM

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So Leo is a manager and Finn and Chris' boss? Didn't see that coming. So his card's power appears to be equivalent exchange of value, such as the million dollars for a bazooka, and a bank note for a bandage, it's creative I suppose. Leo is a calm and level-headed type but it looks like his father doesn't care much for him as shown in the post credits scene.

Jan 23, 2023 10:59 AM

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Main characters turned out to be immoral pieces of trash who kill people just because they are poor and suffer zero consequences for that. Not to mention those three siblings suffered because of the organization main characters work for and even main protagonist who comes from orphanage and knows what it's like being poor showed zero sympathy to the casualties of their actions at the end of the episode. Title dropped. Can't follow a bunch of immoral murderers.

Jan 23, 2023 1:56 PM

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Dang, those siblings sure got blown tf up. But actually they didn't, bodies were still somehow fully intact. Guess they can't go full Kingsman and show some dismemberment and gore. Or maybe a million dollar rpg is somehow rather weak.

I love cool, unique powers like Leo's, where it can be easy to get creative with it. However even though he's filthy rich, it might not perhaps be the most convenient of powers. Dude will almost always need to have a briefcase packed full of cash to get anything useful. I'd like to see in the future when he's caught in a sticky situation but manages to find a five dollar bill or something, and to see what he does with it.

As for Finn's card, I mean I get that being a 2 it's at the lowest end of the scale, but still, just a gun? It's been established that it's basically a sniper with no bullet drop, so that's pretty handy, as well as maybe being able to sneak into places with metal detectors: all you'd need is the card. But still he was able to do next to jack sh*t against fire lady (rest in peace, kind of wanted to see more of her), the bullets not being special at all and getting melted in the scorching heat. Even if it's just a 2 of spades, it should still have something a little extra for being a spade (which is considered the highest suit if I'm not mistaken, at least for your standard texas hold em poker). Maybe it's going a little too far, but maybe have the gun hit its target, no matter what. Yes could get overpowered real quick, but then again we have people who can harness immortality.

Anyway, idk but this episode made it all fall from a strong A-tier to a B-tier for me. Really loved the first episode, liked the 2nd almost as much. This one was kind of meh if I'm being honest. Great production quality all around once again though.

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Jan 23, 2023 10:03 PM

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at first Never No Dollars seemed crazy OP, then realized you need to be Crazy Rich to use it

Jan 23, 2023 11:42 PM

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gannoncannon55 said:
at first Never No Dollars seemed crazy OP, then realized you need to be Crazy Rich to use it

Lmao fr though :'D

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Jan 24, 2023 3:14 AM

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Really fun to watch. Got better with the last char of this team being introduced. Now looking forward to the samurai girl episode. I liked the interaction between rich vs. poor guy. This also reminded a bit of the billionaire dective series. :D Nice special skill with the money and being able to convert it to items.

Jan 24, 2023 4:12 AM

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khaosklub said:
does anyone know the specifics of how leo's power works? it seems kinda lousy, like an amazon express power. like, instead of bringing money, they could have just brought a bazooka, y'know? the 2 card is a gun and can generate bullets, I'd say it's a pretty darn good card in comparison. that fire one seems to be pretty OP too, along with the immortality one.

You can turn it into anything, not just a bazooka. You can't predict what you might need but you can always carry money on you if you're rich

Jan 24, 2023 6:42 AM

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Them fighting the girl with fire power was nice to see, it was truly well animated and played out. They obtained the 7 of Diamonds as well.

It was unexpected though that Leo would be some sort of boss for the company, obviously his father is the main boss of the company, but it looks like Leo had a fun time with Finn (or that's what i think at least)

Amazing episode and i still love the ED song.

Jan 24, 2023 7:12 AM

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Another example of Finn's hero complex, which was fine initially, but him continuing to tag along with Leo after being told to fuck off was annoying and felt forced.

Jan 24, 2023 7:16 AM

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GreatKungLao said:
Main characters turned out to be immoral pieces of trash who kill people just because they are poor and suffer zero consequences for that. Not to mention those three siblings suffered because of the organization main characters work for and even main protagonist who comes from orphanage and knows what it's like being poor showed zero sympathy to the casualties of their actions at the end of the episode. Title dropped. Can't follow a bunch of immoral murderers.

Do they not get a pass for acting in self-defense? I'm not exactly sure what you would have wanted them to do in that situation.

Jan 24, 2023 9:48 AM

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Fail_Man_X said:

GreatKungLao said:
Main characters turned out to be immoral pieces of trash who kill people just because they are poor and suffer zero consequences for that. Not to mention those three siblings suffered because of the organization main characters work for and even main protagonist who comes from orphanage and knows what it's like being poor showed zero sympathy to the casualties of their actions at the end of the episode. Title dropped. Can't follow a bunch of immoral murderers.

Do they not get a pass for acting in self-defense? I'm not exactly sure what you would have wanted them to do in that situation.

They have an immortal dude on their team. They could've figured something out. And if they are so rich, they could've payed the ransome as sort of distraction to put three siblings at ease and them comprehend them while they were unaware. Anyway, there were non lethal solutions. Characters are just dumb af to figure it out.

Jan 24, 2023 10:26 AM

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GreatKungLao said:

Fail_Man_X said:

Do they not get a pass for acting in self-defense? I'm not exactly sure what you would have wanted them to do in that situation.

They have an immortal dude on their team. They could've figured something out. And if they are so rich, they could've payed the ransome as sort of distraction to put three siblings at ease and them comprehend them while they were unaware. Anyway, there were non lethal solutions. Characters are just dumb af to figure it out.

It's disappointing that Chris wasn't ordered to attempt to buy the card rather than just giving the money to Leo, as that would have fit with the show's portrayal of the father - willing to give up millions for the card rather than for his son. Unfortunately, the show was more concerned with introducing Leo and his powers, and they were dealing with a person who wiped out an entire police precinct. There just wasn't going to be a peaceful resolution that got that card away from her.

Jan 24, 2023 12:43 PM

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eglepe said:

khaosklub said:
does anyone know the specifics of how leo's power works? it seems kinda lousy, like an amazon express power. like, instead of bringing money, they could have just brought a bazooka, y'know? the 2 card is a gun and can generate bullets, I'd say it's a pretty darn good card in comparison. that fire one seems to be pretty OP too, along with the immortality one.

You can turn it into anything, not just a bazooka. You can't predict what you might need but you can always carry money on you if you're rich

carrying cash is inconvenient, especially large amounts of it. leo doesn't even seem to carry any cash with him, as he asked if the subway takes card.

it's a really inconvenient power to use. you need to know the price of things, and you also need to keep track of how much money you have. if you find a stack of cash, you have no idea how much is there at a glance, then you need to think of what you can buy with that amount. it's kinda a lousy power.

Jan 24, 2023 12:51 PM

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GreatKungLao said:

Fail_Man_X said:

Do they not get a pass for acting in self-defense? I'm not exactly sure what you would have wanted them to do in that situation.

They have an immortal dude on their team. They could've figured something out. And if they are so rich, they could've payed the ransome as sort of distraction to put three siblings at ease and them comprehend them while they were unaware. Anyway, there were non lethal solutions. Characters are just dumb af to figure it out.

immortal dude isn't superhuman, he's just a guy who can restore himself when he dies. we don't know the limits of his power either, but he probably feels pain, and getting burned to a crisp probably hurts a lot.

there were non-lethal solutions, but no reason to use them. she was currently trying to murder finn. chris barely saved him. they were kidnappers and murderers. there's no reason not to end them. and if they were caught with non-lethal means, they'd just get hanged or something for murdering an entire precinct.

there's nothing immoral about killing murderers, especially when the murderers are trying to murder you. they're bad people and deserved to be put down like dogs. I suppose killing the marble guy was also immoral in your eyes? he should have found a non-lethal way of dealing with that psychopath?

you saw the first episode, and didn't drop there? oh, because marble guy probably wasn't poor, right? being poor is a virtue, is it?

Jan 24, 2023 12:52 PM

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Finn's finally got his salesman look and noticing an abduction right in front of his face of this young boy against some kidnappers, and he managed to save him, not knowing that he's someone important. What ensues is some hilarity between Finn and the kidnappers Carter and Jake, in saving from their boss Nix from the cult.

Finn taking some time to take him back home, but with Nix finding him on the train as the final nail in the coffin, the fight ensues with Finn, with Leo taking over with the 7 of Diamonds "Never No Dollars".

The manager Leo Constantin Pinochle, he's a menace, but the Crazy Rich kind of good.

Jan 24, 2023 1:38 PM

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khaosklub said:

eglepe said:

You can turn it into anything, not just a bazooka. You can't predict what you might need but you can always carry money on you if you're rich

carrying cash is inconvenient, especially large amounts of it. leo doesn't even seem to carry any cash with him, as he asked if the subway takes card.

it's a really inconvenient power to use. you need to know the price of things, and you also need to keep track of how much money you have. if you find a stack of cash, you have no idea how much is there at a glance, then you need to think of what you can buy with that amount. it's kinda a lousy power.

And carrying a bazooka is more convenient? Especially since I have to predict in advance that I'll need it and get a supplier and order it on time. If I have millions in a briefcase I can turn it into a jetski, a tank, mustard gas+oxygen mask, cyanide pills, a bomb, a bulletproof vest etc etc. It's only a lousy power if you lack imagination (and cash). Also I don't think you need to know how much something costs, you just need to have enough money on you.

Jan 24, 2023 2:36 PM

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eglepe said:

khaosklub said:

carrying cash is inconvenient, especially large amounts of it. leo doesn't even seem to carry any cash with him, as he asked if the subway takes card.

it's a really inconvenient power to use. you need to know the price of things, and you also need to keep track of how much money you have. if you find a stack of cash, you have no idea how much is there at a glance, then you need to think of what you can buy with that amount. it's kinda a lousy power.

And carrying a bazooka is more convenient? Especially since I have to predict in advance that I'll need it and get a supplier and order it on time. If I have millions in a briefcase I can turn it into a jetski, a tank, mustard gas+oxygen mask, cyanide pills, a bomb, a bulletproof vest etc etc. It's only a lousy power if you lack imagination (and cash). Also I don't think you need to know how much something costs, you just need to have enough money on you.

possibly. if you have a sling to carry it. carrying that cash? you need some way to carry it, like the briefcase, which is far more inconvenient to carry around than a bazooka hanging from your person.

I mean, the dealership where they work is actually an armory. chris could have just came with a bazooka, and used the bazooka himself. instead he had to bring a briefcase of a ton of cash to transform into something useful.

"Also I don't think you need to know how much something costs, you just need to have enough money on you. "

yes, so you both need to have a good idea about how much something costs and how much you have.

now, say you have $1 million on you for missions, right? well, lets say you use some to make a sniper rifle. how much did that rifle cost? how much do you have left? this is important to know going forward, because now if you need a bazooka, you might not have enough. you'd have to either guestimate and hope for the best, or sit there and count the cash. it's not as handy as you make it out to be because you need to keep track of all this.

yes, it gives you a bit of versatility, but its a very cumbersome ability to use.

and there's a lot not addressed about the power that affects the economy, thus affecting the way the power works.

does the money vanish? this would cause deflation, giving your remaining money more spending power.
does it make a new good out of nothing? this increases the supply, which affects price
Things costs different amounts in different places at different times... what determines the cost of what he's trying to "buy".
what about things that aren't sold, what determines the price?
what about things that don't actually exist?
can he buy people?
does he have to touch the money?
does the thing appear in his hand, or can it appear anywhere there is money?
do coins count? counterfeit money? monopoly money? obsolete money?
does it have to be his money?

Jan 24, 2023 7:34 PM

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Yooo, I didn't expect that Leo is the manager of the office they all work at, hahaha. It's understandable why he's so prideful and arrogant. However, I feel that Leo does get the coolest and greatest power so far as long as he holds a lot of money. "All bow before money" yup, fact.

I just think if Leo can team up with Daisuke Kambe, then who knows how good they'll be? Unlimited Balance x Never No Dollars, I don't know what kind of awesome stuff comes with that exchange...

Wendy will be the star of next week's episode! Can't wait to see our Samurai Girl~ (that means Vijay will be the last?)

ED was sooo good and catchy. I hope the full version will be released soon.

Jan 24, 2023 8:55 PM

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khaosklub said:

GreatKungLao said:

They have an immortal dude on their team. They could've figured something out. And if they are so rich, they could've payed the ransome as sort of distraction to put three siblings at ease and them comprehend them while they were unaware. Anyway, there were non lethal solutions. Characters are just dumb af to figure it out.

immortal dude isn't superhuman, he's just a guy who can restore himself when he dies. we don't know the limits of his power either, but he probably feels pain, and getting burned to a crisp probably hurts a lot.

there were non-lethal solutions, but no reason to use them. she was currently trying to murder finn. chris barely saved him. they were kidnappers and murderers. there's no reason not to end them. and if they were caught with non-lethal means, they'd just get hanged or something for murdering an entire precinct.

there's nothing immoral about killing murderers, especially when the murderers are trying to murder you. they're bad people and deserved to be put down like dogs. I suppose killing the marble guy was also immoral in your eyes? he should have found a non-lethal way of dealing with that psychopath?

you saw the first episode, and didn't drop there? oh, because marble guy probably wasn't poor, right? being poor is a virtue, is it?

Marble dude was a villain. Three siblings weren't like that in the beginning. They were victims of rich people being greedy trash. By the way, the two brothers didn't kill anyone in the entire episode, but got murdered anyway. I could've at least understood if only sister died because she went psychotic, but her brothers were basically innocent. So yeah, I have no desire to follow protagonists who kill at least two innocent people with absolutely no reaction or consequences.

Also, if you forgot, a card user in Episode 2 also killed a cop and yet Finn saved him. Double standards trash protagonist.

Jan 24, 2023 10:18 PM

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"Purrey foh za fayaaa!" That red-haired onee-san is hot but... lmao! Those siblings were just dorks haha! I liked them! XD

*breatheee* OKAY.

I LOVE the crazy rich bocchan! I already saw him from credits last episode and I got curious already (cause he was cute) and OHHH MAN I LOVE HIM. THAT ATTITUDE. THAT FLUFFINESS INSIDE. Lmao I'm such a trash! I'm weak to blonde tsundere boys! Ohh maaan like, he's really cute!! When he thought MC-kun left and came back, he was so cuteee! When he ate the hotdog, HE WAS SO CUTE! AND WHEN HE PATTED THAT LITTLE BOY'S HEAD!! WHEN HE SMIRKED!!! WHEN HE SLAPPED A BAND-AID TO MC-KUN'S CUT ON HIS FACE!!! WHEN HE MADE THE TWO KNEEL BEFORE HIM AND GRABBED THEIR COLLARS!!! OH BOI I CAN'T STOP FANGIRLING- HELP! >///<

Btw the scene of the kidnappers wrestling with MC-kun while granny was just calmly minding her own business and my crazy rich brat was just sipping his tea was so hilarious! XD

Oh man, I am loving this anime. I even fell head over heels with Leo... sama. I'd gladly take a bullet for him. I can't believe his dad isn't even glancing at him! I mean, he's too precious! Look at him! In the ending song where he blushes, it is the sign that he must be protected!! Tho I'd gladly let him step on me-

Never skipping the op & ed of this anime! :D

HuaLian <3

Jan 25, 2023 4:18 AM

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GreatKungLao said:

khaosklub said:

immortal dude isn't superhuman, he's just a guy who can restore himself when he dies. we don't know the limits of his power either, but he probably feels pain, and getting burned to a crisp probably hurts a lot.

there were non-lethal solutions, but no reason to use them. she was currently trying to murder finn. chris barely saved him. they were kidnappers and murderers. there's no reason not to end them. and if they were caught with non-lethal means, they'd just get hanged or something for murdering an entire precinct.

there's nothing immoral about killing murderers, especially when the murderers are trying to murder you. they're bad people and deserved to be put down like dogs. I suppose killing the marble guy was also immoral in your eyes? he should have found a non-lethal way of dealing with that psychopath?

you saw the first episode, and didn't drop there? oh, because marble guy probably wasn't poor, right? being poor is a virtue, is it?

Marble dude was a villain. Three siblings weren't like that in the beginning. They were victims of rich people being greedy trash. By the way, the two brothers didn't kill anyone in the entire episode, but got murdered anyway. I could've at least understood if only sister died because she went psychotic, but her brothers were basically innocent. So yeah, I have no desire to follow protagonists who kill at least two innocent people with absolutely no reaction or consequences.

Also, if you forgot, a card user in Episode 2 also killed a cop and yet Finn saved him. Double standards trash protagonist.

1) you don't know that they weren't villains. you assume because they're poor and are mad at the rich that they're virtuous. they've proven that they're idiots. rich people aren't required to give charity to poor people.

2) kidnappers are villains, and they attacked finn even though he was trying to be sympathetic to them.

3) they are in cahoots with the sister. they have no qualms with her murdering, nor did they contest the idea of burning leo to a crisp.

4) finn didn't kill them

5) we don't know that the brothers are dead. the sister wasn't dead until the statue fell on her probably. the brothers were last seen at the edge of the screen with some rubble on them.

6) just because you aren't required to save someone, doesn't mean you can't, and because you do, doesn't mean you need to save every scumbag. by your logic, if you ever give a bum some money, you should give every bum some money, or you're scum. saving the guy in the car was probably just convenient.

7) the guy in ep 2 was harmless without the card. the brothers were scum without any cards. they were kidnappers. leo didn't do anything to them when they kidnapped him. they threatened him with a knife too. they're neither innocent, nor good people. the guy in episode 2 wasn't exactly a good person either, but without the card, he was a simple coward anyway.

Jan 25, 2023 5:07 PM

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i ve liked the first couple of episodes, this one, not so much

Jan 26, 2023 4:49 AM

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Leo's ability is kinda pricey eh

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Jan 26, 2023 3:53 PM

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When I watched the first episode, I thought I'd drop this soon. The second was good enough to keep me for the third. And I'm very happy I kept up with the show because this episode was really enjoyable! I like Leo a lot and both the abilities and the plot are getting much more interesting!

I've seen this trend with the weak start and rapid improvement in a lot of shows this season (Mononogatari, Saving 80.000 gold, High Card).

One criticism I have is the "villain of the week" style of this show. But I suppose it will only remain for 2 more episodes of introducing the main cast and then the main plot expand. At least Prima Doll, the only other "mixed media" adaptation that came to my mind, followed this pattern.

Jan 28, 2023 8:59 AM

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Did Finn do some training between episode 2 and 3? Because he went from a kid trying to figuring things out to a casual badass with no explanation. It doesn't feel real without a time skip or something to show how he got so competent. It really brought the show down for me. That and the tsundere kid boss. He reminds me of Jusis from Trails of Cold Steel.

Music was nice, but they didn't make the villains sympathetic or evil enough for me to care about them. They were just kinda there, unlike the baddies from the first two episodes.

I really hope this anime isn't another Sirius the Yeager, a show with a phenomenal beginning that petered out into nothing. Let's see what happens with the story once the gang has all been introduced to us.

Jan 29, 2023 4:24 AM

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i mean, i will be praying like that if i got power from the fire lol

Jan 31, 2023 3:03 PM

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im sorry, but this anime is as cool as **** :0

Feb 6, 2023 4:23 AM

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I wish they recruited nix.. Her card is the most powerful so far... She would have been an awesome addition to the team...

Wendy love p and nix.... Man these badass women is what I'm talking about and looking forward to..

They are much better characters and powerful than the lame men in this anime..

Feb 6, 2023 1:41 PM

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haha that guy turned out to be the manager hahahhahahahha ha

Feb 10, 2023 12:06 PM

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khaosklub said:

GreatKungLao said:

Marble dude was a villain. Three siblings weren't like that in the beginning. They were victims of rich people being greedy trash. By the way, the two brothers didn't kill anyone in the entire episode, but got murdered anyway. I could've at least understood if only sister died because she went psychotic, but her brothers were basically innocent. So yeah, I have no desire to follow protagonists who kill at least two innocent people with absolutely no reaction or consequences.

Also, if you forgot, a card user in Episode 2 also killed a cop and yet Finn saved him. Double standards trash protagonist.

1) you don't know that they weren't villains. you assume because they're poor and are mad at the rich that they're virtuous. they've proven that they're idiots. rich people aren't required to give charity to poor people.

2) kidnappers are villains, and they attacked finn even though he was trying to be sympathetic to them.

3) they are in cahoots with the sister. they have no qualms with her murdering, nor did they contest the idea of burning leo to a crisp.

4) finn didn't kill them

5) we don't know that the brothers are dead. the sister wasn't dead until the statue fell on her probably. the brothers were last seen at the edge of the screen with some rubble on them.

6) just because you aren't required to save someone, doesn't mean you can't, and because you do, doesn't mean you need to save every scumbag. by your logic, if you ever give a bum some money, you should give every bum some money, or you're scum. saving the guy in the car was probably just convenient.

7) the guy in ep 2 was harmless without the card. the brothers were scum without any cards. they were kidnappers. leo didn't do anything to them when they kidnapped him. they threatened him with a knife too. they're neither innocent, nor good people. the guy in episode 2 wasn't exactly a good person either, but without the card, he was a simple coward anyway.

Good points, however they dead. All they wanted was the money that were robbed because of a big corporation. It's rather sad that this is the same in real world too, poor are robber by the rich and when they have no way to continue living, they try to get back and labelled as the bad guy. The episode didn't even try to look into the characters, just labelled them bad and killed them. Meanwhile the mc just annoyingly and unnecessarily got him involved with the incident, and made matters worse where things could've been solved in another way. If the story continues like this, all I will say this is bad writing ir the author just hates poor.

Feb 10, 2023 12:16 PM

#38

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Lord_Arin said:

khaosklub said:

GreatKungLao said:

khaosklub said:

GreatKungLao said:

Fail_Man_X said:

GreatKungLao said:
Main characters turned out to be immoral pieces of trash who kill people just because they are poor and suffer zero consequences for that. Not to mention those three siblings suffered because of the organization main characters work for and even main protagonist who comes from orphanage and knows what it's like being poor showed zero sympathy to the casualties of their actions at the end of the episode. Title dropped. Can't follow a bunch of immoral murderers.

Do they not get a pass for acting in self-defense? I'm not exactly sure what you would have wanted them to do in that situation.

They have an immortal dude on their team. They could've figured something out. And if they are so rich, they could've payed the ransome as sort of distraction to put three siblings at ease and them comprehend them while they were unaware. Anyway, there were non lethal solutions. Characters are just dumb af to figure it out.

immortal dude isn't superhuman, he's just a guy who can restore himself when he dies. we don't know the limits of his power either, but he probably feels pain, and getting burned to a crisp probably hurts a lot.

there were non-lethal solutions, but no reason to use them. she was currently trying to murder finn. chris barely saved him. they were kidnappers and murderers. there's no reason not to end them. and if they were caught with non-lethal means, they'd just get hanged or something for murdering an entire precinct.

there's nothing immoral about killing murderers, especially when the murderers are trying to murder you. they're bad people and deserved to be put down like dogs. I suppose killing the marble guy was also immoral in your eyes? he should have found a non-lethal way of dealing with that psychopath?

you saw the first episode, and didn't drop there? oh, because marble guy probably wasn't poor, right? being poor is a virtue, is it?

Marble dude was a villain. Three siblings weren't like that in the beginning. They were victims of rich people being greedy trash. By the way, the two brothers didn't kill anyone in the entire episode, but got murdered anyway. I could've at least understood if only sister died because she went psychotic, but her brothers were basically innocent. So yeah, I have no desire to follow protagonists who kill at least two innocent people with absolutely no reaction or consequences.

Also, if you forgot, a card user in Episode 2 also killed a cop and yet Finn saved him. Double standards trash protagonist.

1) you don't know that they weren't villains. you assume because they're poor and are mad at the rich that they're virtuous. they've proven that they're idiots. rich people aren't required to give charity to poor people.

2) kidnappers are villains, and they attacked finn even though he was trying to be sympathetic to them.

3) they are in cahoots with the sister. they have no qualms with her murdering, nor did they contest the idea of burning leo to a crisp.

4) finn didn't kill them

5) we don't know that the brothers are dead. the sister wasn't dead until the statue fell on her probably. the brothers were last seen at the edge of the screen with some rubble on them.

6) just because you aren't required to save someone, doesn't mean you can't, and because you do, doesn't mean you need to save every scumbag. by your logic, if you ever give a bum some money, you should give every bum some money, or you're scum. saving the guy in the car was probably just convenient.

7) the guy in ep 2 was harmless without the card. the brothers were scum without any cards. they were kidnappers. leo didn't do anything to them when they kidnapped him. they threatened him with a knife too. they're neither innocent, nor good people. the guy in episode 2 wasn't exactly a good person either, but without the card, he was a simple coward anyway.

Good points, however they dead. All they wanted was the money that were robbed because of a big corporation. It's rather sad that this is the same in real world too, poor are robber by the rich and when they have no way to continue living, they try to get back and labelled as the bad guy. The episode didn't even try to look into the characters, just labelled them bad and killed them. Meanwhile the mc just annoyingly and unnecessarily got him involved with the incident, and made matters worse where things could've been solved in another way. If the story continues like this, all I will say this is bad writing ir the author just hates poor.

Not every show has to tackle issues like that, and I think this show just wants to be about cool superpowers. I sincerely doubt the author hates poor people, even if the throwaway "villains" from episodes 2 and 3 were a struggling waiter turning to crime and disaffected factory workers seeking revenge. Also, the kid's superpower is literally "I'm rich", but I'm sure the author isn't trying to make any grand statements about anything.

Feb 11, 2023 4:05 AM

#39