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anime-primeDec 12, 2022 7:30 AM
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| As evident from the flashbacks in the last episode, Unohana and Zaraki did share a long history, from the time Unohana used to be a cold-blooded malevolent killer. It was that fight which later had Zaraki inherit the name of Kenpachi, though for now even with the intentions of letting herself be killed in the process of making Zaraki the ultimate fighter, Unohana still went all guns blazing. That long awaited bankai, “Minazuki”, made its presence in the adaptation after all. The dark red solidified ooze in the shape of Katana.. Pierrot nailed that scene to perfection, and so the climax of the ultimate battle with Zaraki making out alive, eliminating Unohana. He’s the lone Kenpachi now and look at his Zanpakuto talking.. we know what that means. Yet another major fight of this cour adapted and animated damn right *chef’s kiss* The transition in the second half felt a tad strange, though that’s to be expected given they left the Ouetsu training regime last time. Moreover Ichigo failed miserably, heck is even forced to go back home. So yep finally time to take a look back at the roots. |
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| Damn... that was something. The fight between Unohana and Kenpachi was good and also it was nice to see their backstory a little bit. Sad to see that Unohana didn't survive. RIP Queen. Her Bankai was so scary. I loved it. Other than that, it was just Ichigo and Renji meeting the creator of Zanpakuto. Ichigo failed horribly. Now we wait... Btw, those remixes were fire. |
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| Damn, seeing all those memories and past fights of Kenpachi even from a narrative perspective gave me chills. This was a really interesting background storytelling about him and the first Kenpachi, aka Retsu Unohana in the present time. Episode found its own to add some comedic light moments but the Kepniachi storytelling is very important about both of their characters. Goodbye Yachiru :( |
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| I wonder what do people here think Unohana bankai does ? They definitely extended it compared to the manga. But I still don't get if it's for healing or melting |
| I'm feeling really conflicted right now because the fight was actually really, REALLY good, arguarbly the second best fight this season (Yama vs Yhwach is still number 1) but the transition between the fight and Oetsu's part feels too sudden, the directing was actually pretty sloppy this time around. I think they should've done Oetsu's scene last episode while making "The Battle" the full fight between Kenpachi and Unohana, with the end credits being the ones we had this episode (with Ichigo going back home). I know that would've been two slow/buildup episodes, but it would've worked much better overall in terms of hype. If that was the case, I would've seen EP8 & EP9 as 7-7.5/10 while EP10 would've been a 10/10. I'm gonna wait for subs to rewatch it, but overall I would give this one an 8.5/10, fourth best episode of the season, behind Born in the Dark, The Fire and Wrath as a Lightning. |
| Rest in peace Yachiru Unohana. You died on your own terms for the greater good, and we finally got to clearly see your Bankai in action. While she didn't explain her power like is normal for a shounen, it doesn't appear to be too complex of a Bankai to understand. Now Zaraki is a true Kenpachi and is likely the most powerful soul reaper alive (or whatever you would classify soul reapers, haha) at the moment. His soul spirit finally called out to him, it's about time. That will make him even stronger. I can't wait to see it in action and hear the name. Their fight wasn't as well animated as the fights in episodes 6 and 7, but it was still decent. The flashback scenes were a lot of fun. Ichigo failing his training is a surprise, but at least now it seems that he is going to sort out all of his past once and for all to truly understand himself so he can bond a true sword spirit. |
anime-primeDec 12, 2022 8:04 AM
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| Unohana and Zaraki's backstory was absolutely great to see in the anime. True Kenpachi has finally risen and his power will just go up and up after this fight. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| RIP Unohana, she was a fine woman, really liked her. Kenpachi's finally awakened his true power, he already was op but he's gonna become even more op. |
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| The battle was great, but Unohana death was beautiful. Was good all the lore about the Zanpakutou. I'm already excited about the next episode. |
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| RIP Unohana and Zaraki finally can talk to and know the name of his Zanpakto meanwhile Ichigo and Renji are gonna remake their Zanpaktos |
| Next week airing late at 24:49 JST |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| Unohana, the master healer who sat in her room as everyone died, finally dies herself. Thank the heavens, one of the worst characters in Bleach is finally gone. And her dying gave Kenpachi a power up, talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Akil29 said: There's plenty of asspulls and plot convenience in Bleach.I was suprised to see how there were no cuts or extends in this episode this was the most manga canon 1:1 adapted episode. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
anime-primeDec 12, 2022 8:55 AM
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| Kenpachi vs Kenpachi. A battle with a lot of admiration involved. The direction for this episode was a lot different than I was expecting - this not necessarily means bad, but the staff went with a different approach. I really really think this battle should have consisted of the whole episode 10, it deserved that prestige at least in my eyes, as it's a battle that impact Zaraki as a character for the rest of the series. What I always loved about this battle specifically is the passion these two characters (Zaraki and Unohana) have for battle, or possibly violence itself, I remember the first time I watched Bleach... and that first battle between Ichigo and Zaraki kinda left a mark on me, I immediately thought "this dude is crazy" - when Ichigo cut Zaraki deep. He was happy, happy that Ichigo was slicing him, it was the first time I've seen a character that was so in love with fighting. I mean, Goku also is, but Zaraki is different, he doesn't look as friendly as Goku, he looked menacing, 100% chaotic energy, and as the series progress viewers don't see him as a villain or bad guy, but instead just some crazy ass masochist dude with a passion for THE BATTLE. I'd say he's one of Ichigo's greatest allies on Soul Society's side, just for the gratitude he has, as Ichigo gave him lots of fun during their first battle, I also recall for example when Rukia brought him to assist Ichigo against the Fullbringers. Unohana on the other hand, we never saw her as bloodthirsty as she is shown in these past 2 episodes, she is firstly presented as the quiet Captain to fourth's division and main healer of Gotei 13, but then you look up for her old databook infos and you see Kubo put her offensive power at the maximum. Oh, she was a original Gotei 13 member too. She learned to heal her enemies and herself initially just to have more fun during battles 'cause they would last longer that way. We see her Bankai here, it's just... awesome. Even if a lot of people think this battle between her and Zaraki doesn't make sense. I can't help but think it's awesome. I always felt like this battle had a subtext to it, kinda subliminal, it almost sounds erotic at times - towards the end when they're clashing swords and talking about battle with such passion like it's the only thing that gives them pleasure. I KNOW Unohana's much older than Zaraki, it's probably not that deep but that's just the impression I had by reading the manga. "Farewell... The one man in this world... who bought me joy." There is a post-credits scene featuring Ichigo in front of his house.  |
neffst3rDec 12, 2022 9:38 AM
| unohanas bankais was insane damn |
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| I think I just watched a romantically tragic story of Zaraki and Unohana... wow... |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
DoubleR said: That was Unohana's Shikai. So she has 2 Bankais, or was the other one a fake? that green pillow creature if I remember correctly. |
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| Wow! So that’s what it took for Kenny to hear his Zampaktou. High price to pay. Looking forward to seeing how Ichi deals with the loss of Zangetsu. Looks like dude never planned on fixing Zangetsu. It’s finally time for Ichigo to have a sit down with Isshin. I've been waiting for this for over 10 years. |
dragynfaerieDec 12, 2022 7:14 PM
| What a amazing fight between kenpachi zaraki and Unohana was Zaraki the winner but this fight was intense. Ichigo has failed he need to go back to his roots. |
P O S I T I V E V I B E Sシ  |
| Backstory around the fight between Kenpachi and Unohana made it have some more depht. The fight itself was just beyond words. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
| My jaw is almost literally on the floor. Had to watch it twice. This is just breathtaking. Guys the literal first person the Quincies went to murder was Sasakibe. Then Yamamoto. This is likely because those were the ones left killing Yhwach and co. in the past. Had Unohana gone out to the battlefield, the quincies would have murdered her too because she was pushed as one of the merciless quincy killers 1000 years ago. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeDec 12, 2022 9:52 AM
| Dang, how does this series getting better and better each episode. They made all the original famous scenes from the manga even better in the combat scene/ combat choreography. This reboot is such a wonderful surprise , didnt expect this to outperform Demon Slayers in every aspects. |
| Episode of the year Thx Kubo |
KneelBeforeMe said: Unohana, the master healer who sat in her room as everyone died, finally dies herself. Thank the heavens, one of the worst characters in Bleach is finally gone. And her dying gave Kenpachi a power up, talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Akil29 said: There's plenty of asspulls and plot convenience in Bleach.I was suprised to see how there were no cuts or extends in this episode this was the most manga canon 1:1 adapted episode. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. You clearly dont get why she doesn't go out to fight Do you ask a War doctor in battle field to go on battle field to combat? They need to keep her hidden/ safe so she can heal the wounded later. The 1st captain ORDERED her to never charge out to combat. |
Mommy i mean mommy i mean mommy 💀 Unohana’s banki was really cool Kampatchi can finally communicate with his zampacto but at what cost Rip Unohana  |
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| tragic outcome by double entry!!! kekeke |
| omg that fight of two kenpachis is wooooooooooooooooww!!! |
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| this episode was very FREAKING EPIC MAN the fight between kenpachi and unohana was so GREAT and i now wonder what will ichigo do?????/ |
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| BAN KAI Minazuki... playtime is over... |
neffst3r said: Kenpachi vs Kenpachi. A battle with a lot of admiration involved. The direction for this episode was a lot different than I was expecting - this not necessarily means bad, but the staff went with a different approach. I really really think this battle should have consisted of the whole episode 10, it deserved that prestige at least in my eyes, as it's a battle that impact Zaraki as a character for the rest of the series. What I always loved about this battle specifically is the passion these two characters (Zaraki and Unohana) have for battle, or possibly violence itself, I remember the first time I watched Bleach... and that first battle between Ichigo and Zaraki kinda left a mark on me, I immediately thought "this dude is crazy" - when Ichigo cut Zaraki deep. He was happy, happy that Ichigo was slicing him, it was the first time I've seen a character that was so in love with fighting. I mean, Goku also is, but Zaraki is different, he doesn't look as friendly as Goku, he looked menacing, 100% chaotic energy, and as the series progress viewers don't see him as a villain or bad guy, but instead just some crazy ass masochist dude with a passion for THE BATTLE. I'd say he's one of Ichigo's greatest allies on Soul Society's side, just for the gratitude he has, as Ichigo gave him lots of fun during their first battle, I also recall for example when Rukia brought him to assist Ichigo against the Fullbringers. Unohana on the other hand, we never saw her as bloodthirsty as she is shown in these past 2 episodes, she is firstly presented as the quiet Captain to fourth's division and main healer of Gotei 13, but then you look up for her old databook infos and you see Kubo put her offensive power at the maximum. Oh, she was a original Gotei 13 member too. She learned to heal her enemies and herself initially just to have more fun during battles 'cause they would last longer that way. We see her Bankai here, it's just... awesome. Even if a lot of people think this battle between her and Zaraki doesn't make sense. I can't help but think it's awesome. I always felt like this battle had a subtext to it, kinda subliminal, it almost sounds erotic at times - towards the end when they're clashing swords and talking about battle with such passion like it's the only thing that gives them pleasure. I KNOW Unohana's much older than Zaraki, it's probably not that deep but that's just the impression I had by reading the manga. "Farewell... The one man in this world... who bought me joy." There is a post-credits scene featuring Ichigo in front of his house. It’s not really that it doesn’t make sense, it’s that the fight lacks proper story development and basic set up and payoff. Unohana does nothing all series and then this happens, and we’re suddenly lead to believe her entire narrative purpose was to sacrifice herself to make Zaraki stronger. Meanwhile Zaraki has one flashback concerning the whole Yachiru thing and that’s the main instance of “foreshadowing” for this. When I was reading this years ago I couldn’t even begin to care about this fight and I still feel the same now. At least it looks nice. Also best shonen flashback? Have you read Shaman King? Rurouni Kenshin? Claymore? |
| Episode was mediocre. They didn't even expand the fight much nor explain what Unohana's bankai could do. The entire thing was rushed and sure it was like that in the manga as well but at least the anime should've given more context, especially since before the series premiered we were told that some parts of the story would receive additional scenes ffs... Also this was the worst instance of a post-credits scene ever. Why do they keep doing that, do they not realize that many viewers stop watching the episodes once the ending credits roll? |
| Unohana has a sick looking bankai but it feels like that fight needed a bit more to it, like it just needed a bit more seeing them duke it out and trading blows. |
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