Why do people hate Rudeus but like Paul?

Oct 28, 2022 2:17 PM

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Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

Oct 28, 2022 2:17 PM

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and a cheater for a complete set lol.

Oct 28, 2022 2:20 PM

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SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

I might be wrong

on ss1, I think maid ( or an old friend of his cannot remember her name white hair and super buff ) mention he have a way with her and run away

Oct 28, 2022 2:20 PM

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I can understand why most people wouldn't like Rudeus. But he's no longer an adult for him to be considered a pedophile. Of course, he has the mind of one. But outwardly, he just comes off as a horny kid. But as far as Paul, the relationship he had with Lillia can't really be considered forced since she had feelings towards him as well. I don't know anything about the "child beater" part.

Oct 28, 2022 2:20 PM

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Because most of the people hating on Rudy didn't watch the anime that far

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Oct 28, 2022 2:21 PM

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SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

i forget when it was stated but someone states that paul raped the red haired maid girl for their family while they were both in sword school and thats why he was kicked out or had to quit

Oct 28, 2022 2:22 PM

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Bruh, people like Paul? I mean, I have rarely seen anyone talking about him.

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Oct 28, 2022 2:24 PM

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Who gives a fuck about Paul lmao. Paul could die right this second and nobody would give a shit.

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Oct 28, 2022 2:26 PM

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Do they? I’m pretty sure people hate Paul too.

Also you’re completely wrong. Paul isn’t a rapist, just a cheater.

And Rudeus HAS done something. Maybe you haven’t gotten to this part yet… but… he definitely does something with a certain 15 year old.

Oct 28, 2022 2:29 PM

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Rudy jacked off to pictures he took of of his niece, who's a literal kid, while she was bathing. Paul cheated on his wife, then took responsibility for it and felt horrible. Paul is a scumbag but he know what he did and he righted what he did. I hate this series honestly just because it pretends it redeems Rudy, when he never was redeemed.

Oct 28, 2022 2:37 PM

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Because Paul is not the main character.

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Oct 28, 2022 2:51 PM

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yall so sensative, he's like 12 doing it with a 15 year old

Oct 28, 2022 3:01 PM

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Makall said:
People call Rudeus a pedophile (even though he hasn't done anything) but Paul was a literal rapist (Lillia and then ran away to escape his crime) and child beater (punches 11 year olds).

Who likes Paul? The dude's an awful father.

Oct 28, 2022 3:03 PM

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SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

Like episode 5, he didn’t rape but cheated on his wife dunno wtf that person was talking about

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Oct 28, 2022 3:11 PM

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ReyielGun said:
yall so sensative, he's like 12 doing it with a 15 year old

Bro what kinda copium are you snortin 💀

Dude’s 40. Idc if he got reincarnated as a little kid. Dude was having complex inner monologues as a newborn, learned complex magic using scientific knowledge as a toddler, and the entire time had full memory of his previous life and still viewed himself as being that same, 40 yr old pedo NEET.

The story actually puts heavy emphasis on that last part, to make you fully grasp that he does not see himself as a child, but is still having sex with children.

Personally, I still love the show despite that. The character is well-written, so even though I hate him, it’s enjoyable to watch his journey and growth. But I don’t think someone is “so sensitive” if they can’t handle watching that scumbag.

Oct 28, 2022 3:17 PM

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SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

He didn't. He basically got seduced by Lilia and got her pregnant who was kinda jealous of hearing Paul have seggs with Zenith everyday (it's his fault as well for going along). So there was no rape, only cheating on his wife.

Oct 28, 2022 4:00 PM

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Mando727 said:

ReyielGun said:
yall so sensative, he's like 12 doing it with a 15 year old

Bro what kinda copium are you snortin 💀

Dude’s 40. Idc if he got reincarnated as a little kid. Dude was having complex inner monologues as a newborn, learned complex magic using scientific knowledge as a toddler, and the entire time had full memory of his previous life and still viewed himself as being that same, 40 yr old pedo NEET.

The story actually puts heavy emphasis on that last part, to make you fully grasp that he does not see himself as a child, but is still having sex with children.

Personally, I still love the show despite that. The character is well-written, so even though I hate him, it’s enjoyable to watch his journey and growth. But I don’t think someone is “so sensitive” if they can’t handle watching that scumbag.

pretty sure that's what the word sensative means, "not being able to handle something" aka you're sensative, did you know that relationships between people as young as 13 was basically normal just 600 years ago? it's only been deemed evil by modern society.

Oct 28, 2022 4:24 PM

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samsince04 said:
Who gives a fuck about Paul lmao. Paul could die right this second and nobody would give a shit.

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Oct 28, 2022 4:44 PM

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GTRaijin said:

SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

He didn't. He basically got seduced by Lilia and got her pregnant who was kinda jealous of hearing Paul have seggs with Zenith everyday (it's his fault as well for going along). So there was no rape, only cheating on his wife.

finally someone with a fkin brain. I'm just reading through these comments and contemplating how tf am I a broke 16 y/o. I should've already been a billionaire if the world was filled with these ppl lmao

Oct 28, 2022 4:58 PM

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ReyielGun said:

Mando727 said:

Bro what kinda copium are you snortin 💀

Dude’s 40. Idc if he got reincarnated as a little kid. Dude was having complex inner monologues as a newborn, learned complex magic using scientific knowledge as a toddler, and the entire time had full memory of his previous life and still viewed himself as being that same, 40 yr old pedo NEET.

The story actually puts heavy emphasis on that last part, to make you fully grasp that he does not see himself as a child, but is still having sex with children.

Personally, I still love the show despite that. The character is well-written, so even though I hate him, it’s enjoyable to watch his journey and growth. But I don’t think someone is “so sensitive” if they can’t handle watching that scumbag.

pretty sure that's what the word sensative means, "not being able to handle something" aka you're sensative, did you know that relationships between people as young as 13 was basically normal just 600 years ago? it's only been deemed evil by modern society.

For starters, the literal textbook definition of feeling sensitive is being easily hurt or damaged, especially emotionally.

So it’s very possible to not be able to handle something without being sensitive. It’s just called being normal. (And you were also quite obviously trying to use the term as though it were a bad thing)

Personally, I don’t see how disliking a character because they’re canonically a pedophile scumbag is being sensitive, but you do you I guess.

Also… wtf argument are you trying to make my guy. “Well it was acceptable 600 years ago”… and? There was a lot of bs that used to be the norm. There’s a lot of bs that still is the norm, in certain parts of the world at least. It’s still bs though.

Oct 28, 2022 5:01 PM

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fruity_pebbles said:
Rudy jacked off to pictures he took of of his niece, who's a literal kid, while she was bathing. Paul cheated on his wife, then took responsibility for it and felt horrible. Paul is a scumbag but he know what he did and he righted what he did. I hate this series honestly just because it pretends it redeems Rudy, when he never was redeemed.

This is only true for the WN, it's not canon in the LN or the anime, the author must have been smoking crack giving him that backstory.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Oct 28, 2022 5:04 PM

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Mando727 said:

ReyielGun said:
yall so sensative, he's like 12 doing it with a 15 year old

Bro what kinda copium are you snortin 💀

Dude’s 40. Idc if he got reincarnated as a little kid. Dude was having complex inner monologues as a newborn, learned complex magic using scientific knowledge as a toddler, and the entire time had full memory of his previous life and still viewed himself as being that same, 40 yr old pedo NEET.

The story actually puts heavy emphasis on that last part, to make you fully grasp that he does not see himself as a child, but is still having sex with children.

Personally, I still love the show despite that. The character is well-written, so even though I hate him, it’s enjoyable to watch his journey and growth. But I don’t think someone is “so sensitive” if they can’t handle watching that scumbag.

He's 34, not sure why everyone is always saying that he's 40. lol

You're not supposed to take him being a pedo seriously, it's not logical, but just how it is.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Oct 28, 2022 5:10 PM

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GTRaijin said:

SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

He didn't. He basically got seduced by Lilia and got her pregnant who was kinda jealous of hearing Paul have seggs with Zenith everyday (it's his fault as well for going along). So there was no rape, only cheating on his wife.

The rape in question is when they were younger, not when she was living in their house as a maid.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Oct 28, 2022 5:12 PM

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LostSpectre said:

Mando727 said:

Bro what kinda copium are you snortin 💀

Dude’s 40. Idc if he got reincarnated as a little kid. Dude was having complex inner monologues as a newborn, learned complex magic using scientific knowledge as a toddler, and the entire time had full memory of his previous life and still viewed himself as being that same, 40 yr old pedo NEET.

The story actually puts heavy emphasis on that last part, to make you fully grasp that he does not see himself as a child, but is still having sex with children.

Personally, I still love the show despite that. The character is well-written, so even though I hate him, it’s enjoyable to watch his journey and growth. But I don’t think someone is “so sensitive” if they can’t handle watching that scumbag.

He's 34, not sure why everyone is always saying that he's 40. lol

You're not supposed to take him being a pedo seriously, it's not logical, but just how it is.

He’s a pedo and a scumbag. I’m always going to dislike him as a character no matter how much he grows, as he is irredeemable in my eyes. But like I said, he’s still a well-written character, and I enjoy watching his journey because it’s so well-written.

That’s just me though. I know plenty of people who wouldn’t be able to like a show when they don’t like the main character.

So I get that you shouldn’t be so serious to the point that you treat fiction as reality, but it’s not like anyone’s being unreasonable for disliking the show because of a dislikable character.

Oct 28, 2022 5:17 PM

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The amount of people not knowing, that character development is a thing and unironically thinking, that character from chapter one is an end product, is baffling.
Also, Paul is literally from medieval fantasy world, in which he is slightly above average in terms of morality. Putting him to modern, real life standards is just stupid.

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Oct 28, 2022 5:17 PM

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Mando727 said:

LostSpectre said:

He's 34, not sure why everyone is always saying that he's 40. lol

You're not supposed to take him being a pedo seriously, it's not logical, but just how it is.

He’s a pedo and a scumbag. I’m always going to dislike him as a character no matter how much he grows, as he is irredeemable in my eyes. But like I said, he’s still a well-written character, and I enjoy watching his journey because it’s so well-written.

That’s just me though. I know plenty of people who wouldn’t be able to like a show when they don’t like the main character.

So I get that you shouldn’t be so serious to the point that you treat fiction as reality, but it’s not like anyone’s being unreasonable for disliking the show because of a dislikable character.

Oh shit, you're the guy who can't understand when something in a show shouldn't be taken literally. My bad. Please don't reply.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Oct 28, 2022 5:21 PM

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there seems to be a lot of bored kids out there, having nothing else to do than discussing the same topic over and over again, here you go:

Oct 28, 2022 5:22 PM

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LostSpectre said:

Mando727 said:

He’s a pedo and a scumbag. I’m always going to dislike him as a character no matter how much he grows, as he is irredeemable in my eyes. But like I said, he’s still a well-written character, and I enjoy watching his journey because it’s so well-written.

That’s just me though. I know plenty of people who wouldn’t be able to like a show when they don’t like the main character.

So I get that you shouldn’t be so serious to the point that you treat fiction as reality, but it’s not like anyone’s being unreasonable for disliking the show because of a dislikable character.

Oh shit, you're the guy who can't understand when something in a show shouldn't be taken literally. My bad. Please don't reply.

Bruh what? I literally just said that fiction shouldn’t be treated as reality.

AND IM A MUSHOKU TENSEI FAN AS WELL. I’m not bashing this show at all, and I don’t see Rudeus’ scumbag-ery as being a flaw in regards to the story. I’m just sympathizing with the people who dislike it for very logical and justifiable reasons.

Holy crap, y’all are on edge.

Oct 28, 2022 5:25 PM

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Mando727 said:

LostSpectre said:

Oh shit, you're the guy who can't understand when something in a show shouldn't be taken literally. My bad. Please don't reply.

Bruh what? I literally just said that fiction shouldn’t be treated as reality.

AND IM A MUSHOKU TENSEI FAN AS WELL. I’m not bashing this show at all, and I don’t see Rudeus’ scumbag-ery as being a flaw in regards to the story. I’m just sympathizing with the people who dislike it for very logical and justifiable reasons.

Holy crap, y’all are on edge.

Nope! If I had recognized who you were I wouldn't have touched your comment with a 10 foot pole, now leave me alone!

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Oct 28, 2022 5:31 PM

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LostSpectre said:

Mando727 said:

Bruh what? I literally just said that fiction shouldn’t be treated as reality.

AND IM A MUSHOKU TENSEI FAN AS WELL. I’m not bashing this show at all, and I don’t see Rudeus’ scumbag-ery as being a flaw in regards to the story. I’m just sympathizing with the people who dislike it for very logical and justifiable reasons.

Holy crap, y’all are on edge.

Nope! If I had recognized who you were I wouldn't have touched your comment with a 10 foot pole, now leave me alone!

Lmao. I mean, you’re clearly talking out of your ass because you realize I made valid points and you don’t want to admit to losing an anonymous argument online…

I’m a Dragon Maid, CotE, and Arifureta fan. I don’t see how I could enjoy any of those if I were the type who took things too seriously.

But whatever floats your boat, squirt.

Oct 28, 2022 6:12 PM

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I reallynlike Rudeus and Paul is always annoying for me

Oct 28, 2022 6:53 PM

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I like ruby and paul

Oct 28, 2022 7:22 PM

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I can understand why most people wouldn't like Rudeus. But he's no longer an adult for him to be considered a pedophile. Of course, he has the mind of one. But outwardly, he just comes off as a horny kid. But as far as Paul, the relationship he had with Lillia can't really be considered forced since she had feelings towards him as well. I don't know anything about the "child beater" part.

It’s mentioned in the show that back in their younger days Paul broke into lilias room, had his way with her and ran away 💀💀💀

Oct 28, 2022 7:51 PM

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SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

GTRaijin said:

SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

He didn't. He basically got seduced by Lilia and got her pregnant who was kinda jealous of hearing Paul have seggs with Zenith everyday (it's his fault as well for going along). So there was no rape, only cheating on his wife.

He did rape Lillia.

Oct 28, 2022 7:58 PM

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People liking Paul is a new thing. I thought everyone saw him as a loser.

Oct 28, 2022 8:20 PM

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I don't really like either lol. Paul was alright until he cheated

Oct 28, 2022 8:27 PM

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Because they're horny but don't want to accept that they're horny, hahaha!

Oct 28, 2022 9:25 PM

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LostSpectre said:

Mando727 said:

Bruh what? I literally just said that fiction shouldn’t be treated as reality.

AND IM A MUSHOKU TENSEI FAN AS WELL. I’m not bashing this show at all, and I don’t see Rudeus’ scumbag-ery as being a flaw in regards to the story. I’m just sympathizing with the people who dislike it for very logical and justifiable reasons.

Holy crap, y’all are on edge.

Nope! If I had recognized who you were I wouldn't have touched your comment with a 10 foot pole, now leave me alone!

Talk about being a snowflake

Oct 28, 2022 9:48 PM

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fruity_pebbles said:
Rudy jacked off to pictures he took of of his niece, who's a literal kid, while she was bathing. Paul cheated on his wife, then took responsibility for it and felt horrible. Paul is a scumbag but he know what he did and he righted what he did. I hate this series honestly just because it pretends it redeems Rudy, when he never was redeemed.

Did Rudy jerk off to pics of his niece in the anime? If so, I missed it. I haven't read the LN, so I'm sure I'm missing some details.

Oct 29, 2022 12:40 AM

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Those who hate Rudeus are the people who didn't actually get the story. Because those who have read the ln cannot hate Rudeus.

Oct 29, 2022 12:44 AM

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SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

After he left his house, he was accepted into a dojo where he raped Lilia when they both are young.

Oct 29, 2022 1:06 AM

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it's the fact that although Rudius supposed to be a kid, all inner monolog, desires, and the obsession over women's panties, (he used a pair of panties as a mask for christ sake!!),are all coming from the mind of an adult.. which for me makes the show not as enjoyable and kinda gross tbh.. which sucks cause I like the show, but that aspect takes a lot of the enjoyment out of it... also.... Paul never raped the maid..Rudius made that story up to cover for Paul...

Oct 29, 2022 1:10 AM

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samsince04 said:
Who gives a fuck about Paul lmao. Paul could die right this second and nobody would give a shit.

exactly..I don't feel like people like Paul more than Rudy..Paul's a selfish lying manipulative ass with no redeeming qualities..I just think it's more about the fact that Rudy is an adult in his head and thinking that turns people off.. and I watched the entire series

Oct 29, 2022 1:47 AM

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I dislike both of them equally, even though I respect them for other reasons. I haven't heard someone loving Paul and hating Rudy so far. That's just me though.

Also, Rudy has done a lot of stuff, let's not fool ourselves.

Oct 29, 2022 2:06 AM

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BloodBorneLust said:

SawsyMikey said:
Did I miss something when did Paul do rape?

i forget when it was stated but someone states that paul raped the red haired maid girl for their family while they were both in sword school and thats why he was kicked out or had to quit

That’s Rudy lying to cover for Lilia so she doesn’t have to be kicked out of the household for cheating with Paul.

Oct 29, 2022 2:09 AM

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Mando727 said:
Do they? I’m pretty sure people hate Paul too.

Also you’re completely wrong. Paul isn’t a rapist, just a cheater.

And Rudeus HAS done something. Maybe you haven’t gotten to this part yet… but… he definitely does something with a certain 15 year old.

True. I do think people give Paul a little too much credit, but Paul wasn’t THAT much of a scumbag.

Oct 29, 2022 2:12 AM

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Eren_Cho said:
I dislike both of them equally, even though I respect them for other reasons. I haven't heard someone loving Paul and hating Rudy so far. That's just me though.

Also, Rudy has done a lot of stuff, let's not fool ourselves.

Not to mention, if you read the LN, Rudeus ends up with a lot more morally questionable accusations than the anime has shown so far.

Oct 29, 2022 2:33 AM

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Paul is such a great father, when he raped Lilia he was 12 years old, a careless brat who struggled to find his place in the world, now he loves his family more than anything else, he made sure Norn is happy, safe and took care of her even in his darkest moments. He would do anything for his kids. I love Paul, Paul is a GOAT.

Oct 29, 2022 2:40 AM

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samsince04 said:
Who gives a fuck about Paul lmao. Paul could die right this second and nobody would give a shit.

I do, he is a great character, what are you talking about.

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