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Sep 24, 2022 8:28 PM
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There was so much potential in the idea of this world.

A secret government orginazation takes orphaned girls, brainwashes them and uses them as assassins, while using total information control to keep the populace passive and happy.


If you look at the end of the show, nothing has changed. Everything is as it was and our heroes don't care about the bigger picture.

I feel so let down. I really cared about Chisato and Tanake and I loved their interplay. But the overall story left me feeling empty.

Chisato in particular was such a lovely character, in the opening animation where she dances across the screen captured her lively personality so perfectly. I just wish she had been in a better story.
Sep 24, 2022 8:41 PM
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Chronigan said:
There was so much potential in the idea of this world.

A secret government orginazation takes orphaned girls, brainwashes them and uses them as assassins, while using total information control to keep the populace passive and happy.


If you look at the end of the show, nothing has changed. Everything is as it was and our heroes don't care about the bigger picture.

I feel so let down. I really cared about Chisato and Tanake and I loved their interplay. But the overall story left me feeling empty.

Chisato in particular was such a lovely character, in the opening animation where she dances across the screen captured her lively personality so perfectly. I just wish she had been in a better story.

totally agree with you, the premise of the show was amazing. When I watched the first episode I was really excited because of the endless possibilites the show had. But, after a couple of episodes I felt dissapointed on the plot because of how it throwed away the great potential it had. Tbh in my opinion, the show was carried by its characters and good action scenes
Sep 24, 2022 8:45 PM
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The actual plot was definitely the weakest area of this show. It's not that great.
Sep 24, 2022 8:49 PM
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Chronigan said:
There was so much potential in the idea of this world.

A secret government orginazation takes orphaned girls, brainwashes them and uses them as assassins, while using total information control to keep the populace passive and happy.


If you look at the end of the show, nothing has changed. Everything is as it was and our heroes don't care about the bigger picture.

I feel so let down. I really cared about Chisato and Tanake and I loved their interplay. But the overall story left me feeling empty.

Chisato in particular was such a lovely character, in the opening animation where she dances across the screen captured her lively personality so perfectly. I just wish she had been in a better story.

They needed the Hawaiian Chisato figure to sell. I started off loving the show but it fell off for me. Outside of Lycoris that we don’t know, everyone survived. It ended up being no real stakes. Gotta sell those LN’s. I get it if you don’t want to kill off Chisato and Takina but someone from the cafe should’ve died because of Chisato’s pacifism. To make her question it because it directly led to the death of someone close to her. That would’ve been more impactful but no just pack everything up and enjoy Hawai’i. That was a pretty lame ending, but what do they care, they have a sweet cash cow franchise now. Shut up and give them your money, lol.
Sep 24, 2022 8:54 PM
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I like that ship flooding gets 10 times more people and comments than a real discussion of the plot. The motivation for watching the show is immediately visible to many people. Well, I agree that the show is very superficial and doesn't develop even a small part of its potential. But given the popularity of the anime and the announcement of the event for February, I think it still has some chance of getting a second season or at least an OVA.
Sep 24, 2022 9:05 PM
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If you see Lycoris Recoil as the action drama-comedy show, this is masterpiece ...

If you see Lycoris Recoil as only the action show, you will be regretted.

10/10 as the action drama-comedy show, but 5/10 as the only action show.
Sep 24, 2022 9:08 PM
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the last scene in hawaii was not necessary...
Sep 24, 2022 9:10 PM
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the show barely had a story and we still don't even really know whats going on lol
Sep 24, 2022 9:15 PM
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Chronigan said:
There was so much potential in the idea of this world.

A secret government orginazation takes orphaned girls, brainwashes them and uses them as assassins, while using total information control to keep the populace passive and happy.


If you look at the end of the show, nothing has changed. Everything is as it was and our heroes don't care about the bigger picture.

I feel so let down. I really cared about Chisato and Tanake and I loved their interplay. But the overall story left me feeling empty.

Chisato in particular was such a lovely character, in the opening animation where she dances across the screen captured her lively personality so perfectly. I just wish she had been in a better story.

I really enjoyed the story and hoping for a English translation of the manga and light novel
Sep 24, 2022 9:16 PM
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No. Definately not. Still gave it an 8/10 but I'm still thinking about it. Didn't like how the licoris being compromised was dismissed with "haha jk just a prank bro" and it fucking works lol. The finale was kind of a step down from how the story was progressing around episode 8/9 of the series.
Sep 24, 2022 9:42 PM
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well the story was just missing a badaas male character who just beats the shit out of everyone.Overall the anime was good and the story was unique girls with guns
Sep 24, 2022 10:02 PM

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i agree to an extent definitely. the story was actually suprisingly good at the start although not that great. as the show progresses the story stayed stagnant and the whole majima storyline was meh. but still, the characters and animation made for a good show, nothing special though.
Sep 24, 2022 11:33 PM
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It was good but obviously a big setup to season two and sell LN, manga and all the merch. $$$
Sep 24, 2022 11:45 PM

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CHISATO CUTE ME NO NEED EXPLANATION - me for a few weeks.

but

after seeing a bunch of girls brutalized in a subway... and the tower... and no one bats an eye?

The author either hates women, story coherency, or just wrote it off lol.


Sep 24, 2022 11:47 PM
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SkyhighCFC said:
The actual plot was definitely the weakest area of this show. It's not that great.

The thing is execution, the plot they were hyping was really nice, forcing Chisato to grow if it went that way. But in last 2 episodes they threw up every buildup except like two and went for a complete ending that only made 2 characters grow which one of them isn't even a main character. And the hopes of a new season was thrown out of the window. It went from a 9 to a 7 real fast. I'm disappointed, it had a huge potential and they managed to mess up.
Sep 25, 2022 12:08 AM

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It's clear that the plot has been weakened to increase the audience's reach. Imagine that this is not cgdct, but cgddt (cute girl doing dark things), not something that will bring in a lot of revenue.
Sep 25, 2022 1:57 AM

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Honestly I don't really care about the complexity or uniqueness or intelligence of the plot here. From episode one this show was just brainless fun for me and I absolutely fell in love with the vibes and the cast. I get how this is realistically maybe and 8 or 9 for most people but for me this is a 10 for just how much fun I had watching the show and how many emotions I felt and I think this is where the appeal of the show is. It's not made to be overanalyzed but to just go in have a great time and go out.
Sep 25, 2022 2:14 AM

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It was fine. It all depends on what you want out of the anime.
Sep 25, 2022 2:21 AM
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aguve said:
well the story was just missing a badaas male character who just beats the shit out of everyone.Overall the anime was good and the story was unique girls with guns

Ever heard of Gunslinger Girl?
Sep 25, 2022 3:27 AM
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Not really, i have fun ride watching this anime. It has a lot of potential in story development, many mystery unsolved to possibility of season 2? Overall i enjoy Lycoris Recoil, i would give this 9/10. Much better than a lot of original anime out there, last time i enjoy original anime is Vivy.
Sep 25, 2022 5:25 AM
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Wait , this show had a plot???
Sep 25, 2022 6:36 AM

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I was disappointed with both plot and characters. Even the mob characters seem to be blind sheep as long as they get what their action is worth or something.


But yeah, people will say u aint meant to think about the plot and you are supposed to swallow it against your will and just enjoy everything. Even if it means people living in a dystopian era where orphans are recruited to kill anyone who could be a threat without due process of justice and they have the ability to cover up everything with a propoganda video about lycoris.

1984 was more preferable than this shit.


Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.


I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death.


Sep 25, 2022 7:13 AM
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Chronigan said:
There was so much potential in the idea of this world.

A secret government orginazation takes orphaned girls, brainwashes them and uses them as assassins, while using total information control to keep the populace passive and happy.


If you look at the end of the show, nothing has changed. Everything is as it was and our heroes don't care about the bigger picture.

I feel so let down. I really cared about Chisato and Tanake and I loved their interplay. But the overall story left me feeling empty.

Chisato in particular was such a lovely character, in the opening animation where she dances across the screen captured her lively personality so perfectly. I just wish she had been in a better story.

You're right. The potential was huge, and making this show also a little bit "dark" could have been awesome and if well done, a masterpiece. But it would have been a vibe killer. Same goes with some of the things you mentioned, like the huge amount of deads.
I hope you got my point. I agree 100% with you but I think this show tries to maintain an overall" relaxed" vibe, staying always simple, and for me that's the main key of the success of LycoReco.
Sep 25, 2022 3:36 PM
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yes character limit.
Sep 25, 2022 5:36 PM

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I was also expecting more info on the Alan Institute but it never came.




Sep 25, 2022 5:56 PM

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Chronigan said:
There was so much potential in the idea of this world.

A secret government orginazation takes orphaned girls, brainwashes them and uses them as assassins, while using total information control to keep the populace passive and happy.


If you look at the end of the show, nothing has changed. Everything is as it was and our heroes don't care about the bigger picture.

I feel so let down. I really cared about Chisato and Tanake and I loved their interplay. But the overall story left me feeling empty.

Chisato in particular was such a lovely character, in the opening animation where she dances across the screen captured her lively personality so perfectly. I just wish she had been in a better story.


Agreed. Chisato and Takina's relationship is probably one of the best i've seen in TV. I loved the ealier eps a lot (even if some things didnt make sense), and the part where Chisato encouraged Takina not to investigate the subway gave me hope that there would be actual SoL instead of shit drama. I would have forgiven A-1 of all their sins if they let Chisato and Takina deal with episodic problems (ofc with guns), sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing, but maturing and strengthening their bond whatever the outcome. But alas, money comes first for A-1 and shitty dramas are inevitable .-.
Sep 25, 2022 6:30 PM
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For me the most disappointing part was the tower incident, they made a huge cliffhanger to be just an operation where Chisato owned Majima, I expected a badass story that had many consequences, but in the end it was just that.
Sep 26, 2022 7:55 PM
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Honestly it's always the problem with these high budget shows. They max out the animation/voice acting and skimp on everything else. Granted it would probably have been better if it had even less plot and just focused on action scenes and slice of life scenes.


It really annoys me when things aren't consistent: Takina is established to be have perfect aim but always misses; Chisato is worse but always hits (even when shooting her inaccurate nonlethal bullets); Kurumi is a great hacker who can track someone using a reflection from 10 years ago, but only under pressure. The only consistent thing about the setting is how dedicated the Alan institute is to making Chisato a killer.


It started really strong with a ton of potential. Even the middle I was curious where they were going. But whatever enough thinking about this show and onto the next one.
Oct 11, 2022 1:12 AM

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I'm not fazed by such things anymore. Plot based anime are generally disappointments. They have potential, but rarely realise that potential.
Since I focused on the characters in stead, I could both like and appreciate this show. If I was looking only at it's plot development I'd have given it a 6, but because I didn't and focused my attention elsewhere I gave it a 7. In the end Japan is improving, but has a ways to go, until it perfects it's story telling in anime format.
Oct 11, 2022 3:15 AM
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i wasn't disappointed by it, just felt like it's very predictable at moments.
Oct 11, 2022 3:19 AM

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you watch this because of the characters and their cute moments and not the plot
Sep 16, 2023 3:42 AM

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The SoL scenes were awesome, really entertaining. The overarching story was alright, the execution was crap though.
Sep 17, 2023 4:00 AM
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No, I was also let down.

Sure, it was fun for the first couple episodes, until it started going into bullshit territory halfway through the end where Takina was shafted once Majima took center stage, and it really started to piss me off.

Also, the Yuri shippers were fucking obnoxious. >.< (This has nothing to do with the anime, but still)
Sep 17, 2023 5:22 AM
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I feel like every time I look back on this anime, there's always one or two problems I have with it...
Sep 20, 2023 6:13 PM

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Theres a lot of garbage story but if you sum it up, its a still solid 8/10 anime. Lets put it this way.

Story 5/10
Art 9/10
Fan Service 9/10
Yurification 10/10
Average: 8.25
Oct 11, 2023 2:58 AM

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It's a story about the clash of ideals. Lycoris and the gubirmint have taken it upon themselves to enforce their ideals on everyone, without regard for what everyone else wants or thinks of that. What god gave them that right? They are simply forcing their own will on others under the assumption that they know better than everyone else.

So Majima does the same. He goes on a rampage to enforce his own ideals on society. To forcibly liberate the people from the yoke of the system through chaos of such magnitude that it cannot be covered up or ignored. He wants people to be able to decide for themselves, for weal or woe.

Chisato does the same in her own way. She ignores the supposed greater good and the expectations of others and lives her life the way she wants to, according to her own ideals, everything else be damned. Peace? Chaos? Irrelevant. She just wants to stay true to herself and help people.

The world is full of heroes of justice. People who believe their way of living is the objectively correct one, that any opposition to this ideal is a threat to be eliminated, and that they have the right to make that decision on behalf of everyone else. All in all Majima seems to be the only one who truly appreciates the hypocrisy of that, which is why he takes it upon himself to act as the counterbalance, handing out guns to people and trying to tear it all down because he believes people should decide for themselves what kind of society they want to have, and to know the truth, regardless of how painful or frightening that may be. To him, peace is not worth trading your freedom for. To Lycoris, absolute freedom is not worth sacrificing peace for. To Chisato, neither freedom nor peace are worth sacrificing people's lives for.

To sum up Majima's perspective in a quote: A gilded cage is still a cage.
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Oct 20, 2023 1:40 PM
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I can see where the ending of lycoris disappoints since Majima is and always was a jobber who was forced to be relevant but I disagree with overall story being disappointing, firstly fundamentally because almost every action had blatant set up, like you can do cause and effect to get there, a nice touch to go against asspulls many other shows do and require minor retcon just to make it all make sense, and secondly the show was strong for Japanese audience and while I am a westerner, I can see why it represents Japanese mentality really well.

The Japanese are conservative and unchanging, if something isn't broken beyond repair do not fix it. Additionally those who live by the sword must die by the sword. Since Chisato doesn't take lives, and Takina doesn't take innocent lives, the girls get off scot free without having to experience any tragedy. The lesson it preaches to not get involved unless it personally concerns you is not one I think westerners are okay with, but for Japan, an insular society, it works.

The show set up handwaving all its plots points away since episode 4, as Chisato told Takina, we're not on duty, it isn't our job to get involved. Frankly, the characters were not ideologically driven to want the world to conform to their views in the first place. They were happy to be cogs in the machine for their work then compartmentalized it and had fun afterwards. It takes skill to make that all work, and to me, it did.

The show was pretty, the story had stakes, where the main character did have a shot at dying narratively speaking. VA work was great. Lycoris Recoil was a good show.

TL;DR, for all those who cared about the plot, it was a red herring because the main characters never had a single interest in dealing with them unless it was their job, and after that it was only their job. Then it is time for fun.
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