| I agree. Every civilian's IQ has been reduced so low that the only way the plot makes any sense is if it was written and acted out by a bunch of idiot cardboards. There has been so much gore and blood in the broadcast last episode but they wave it off with a new attraction ad and everyone is ok.  Yeah, not just money, but the blood of civilians gunned down by younglings/lycoris and police. but who cares, as long as they get to visit the next crap of attractions, dont ask questions, just switch off your brains because audience is concerned about yuri bait more than the plot. We can't have a realistic or ethical discussion, just a cheap copout that's the best lycoris can do apparently.. They are just piggybanking off psycho pass's setting. Just all the same things copied with 0 of the essence. Just as long as people turn off their brains and sing "SAKANA MATATA" everything is ok . |
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RogerCop said: 3radenM said: The pacing is kind of odd in that Lycoris is exposed and then its undone I think the next day? But I think it’s perfectly believable when you consider a) Lycoris has a pre-established system for manipulating the media b) based on the real world we can assume that there would be “Lycoris truthers” out there but they wouldn’t be taken seriously c) spreading footage and eyewitness accounts of them actually helps hide the truth due to the overwhelming amount of information (think Metal Gear Solid 2) The show probably could’ve handled this subplot better but for a show with a crazy premise and only 13 episodes I think it’s fine Mate people with families and friends died. They ain't covering that up with the prank excuse. And it was such an easy fix, just remove the guns in the city. Exactly. Not to mention the media and dead bodies coverup isnt sitting well with me. How many innocent civilians have died due to lycoris and got their deaths swept behind the rug just because the AI/DA has been wrong and they swept up the deaths just so that they can still perpetuate the lie that the DA is never wrong? Are the lycoris recruited fairly? Do they even know what it is to kill civilians? Do they think of it as a game when they start killing at 6 years old? And do all the criminals killed violently by the lycoris necessarily deserve death as a punishment? This is just Judge jury executioner all over again. How many orphans are goaded into being lycoris and bullied and harassed by their peers because they were too 'pussy' enough to not kill people and blindly follow orders?? We seen it happen to takina, but she turned out alright, but what about those who didnt have a fucking chisato in their lives and pulled the trigger on their heads just because they became depressed and felt they had no other meaning and that they were worthless because their parents and now the DA has abandoned them??? So many ethical questions but the show refuses to answer em because we are supposed to turn off our brains and cheer on for 'cute girls doing counter terrorism' plot which is mostly ripped outta psycho pass just because 'they are cute'. You can't half arse ethical issues. At this point the villain Majima makes more sense for shutting the DA down since atleast people will start to turn on their brains and question the legality of the lycoris. Assuming they haven't turned on their brains already when they should have questioned the family unfriendly video that was aired with blood and gore which children watched and the DA just tried to excuse it as 'a trailer for a new promotion'. Even Bill Clinton saying that he didn't bang his secretary sounded 1000 times more convincing than that. |
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| Still smarter than One Piece civillians and NPC's lmao |
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Mugi-Tren said: deg said: Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion its a real phenomenon if you asked whoever made this I highly doubt they thought of this phenomenon when deciding how to deal with the civilians, and more likely the thought about it would seen as comedy bit. I'd say they more likely thought of lazy writing more than any other particular phenomenon. Japanese culture does place a very huge emphasis on conforming to the group rather than individual beliefs, to the point that they would ignore they have a problem with their culture rather than acknowledge it. Part of it is due to Honne and tatemae ,but I dont believe it applies here. Here, the individuals/public in lycoris recoil are expressing an individual opinion that the gory and kid unfriendly traumatising visuals they have been exposed to, courtesy of makishima shogo cheap ripoff, is ok, because they put an ad after it saying that it is just a promo. None of them find it remotely disturbing, or even haunted by the blatant implication that was told to them that every crime around them was brutally covered up by school girls and a nebulous organisation, with heavy evidence to support it and are way too easily accepting of the slapdash ad. Idk, that sort of thing is heavily traumatising to most individuals, especially when you consider most families with daughters who would mostly dread if they were also such type of lycoris. |
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| Yeah that was dumb, people who are saying it makes kinda sense are even dumber. |
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| the selling point of this show is the lovable characters anyway and not the weak plot |
| If you nitpick an anime with their flaws, any title will look dumb and disappointing. About that, I agree. But, dont you think that the girls being so strong, Chisato can't be hit by bullet, Takina wearing mens underwear are more unrealistic than the civilians? Lycoris is not a perfect anime. But its pretty damn good. |
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JeremiahOrange said: RogerCop said: Mate people with families and friends died. They ain't covering that up with the prank excuse. And it was such an easy fix, just remove the guns in the city. Exactly. Not to mention the media and dead bodies coverup isnt sitting well with me. How many innocent civilians have died due to lycoris and got their deaths swept behind the rug just because the AI/DA has been wrong and they swept up the deaths just so that they can still perpetuate the lie that the DA is never wrong? Are the lycoris recruited fairly? Do they even know what it is to kill civilians? Do they think of it as a game when they start killing at 6 years old? And do all the criminals killed violently by the lycoris necessarily deserve death as a punishment? This is just Judge jury executioner all over again. How many orphans are goaded into being lycoris and bullied and harassed by their peers because they were too 'pussy' enough to not kill people and blindly follow orders?? We seen it happen to takina, but she turned out alright, but what about those who didnt have a fucking chisato in their lives and pulled the trigger on their heads just because they became depressed and felt they had no other meaning and that they were worthless because their parents and now the DA has abandoned them??? So many ethical questions but the show refuses to answer em because we are supposed to turn off our brains and cheer on for 'cute girls doing counter terrorism' plot which is mostly ripped outta psycho pass just because 'they are cute'. You can't half arse ethical issues. At this point the villain Majima makes more sense for shutting the DA down since atleast people will start to turn on their brains and question the legality of the lycoris. Assuming they haven't turned on their brains already when they should have questioned the family unfriendly video that was aired with blood and gore which children watched and the DA just tried to excuse it as 'a trailer for a new promotion'. Even Bill Clinton saying that he didn't bang his secretary sounded 1000 times more convincing than that. I'll be honest with this, I think you are really overthinking it. I know that the thing that happened in the episode was extremely dumb, but half of the questions you ask are things that really hasn't mattered at all in the plot. >How many innocent civilians have died due to lycoris and got their deaths swept behind the rug just because the AI/DA has been wrong and they swept up the deaths just so that they can still perpetuate the lie that the DA is never wrong? I doubt they kill actually innocent civilians, they have like the whole city/country whatever being monitorized. >Are the lycoris recruited fairly? It's probably just orphans being offered a place to live as long as they follow orders. I don't think it is completely fair, but I doubt they just take them by force and make them do what they want, can't be sure since we weren't told how they are recluted so any of those options can be valid. >Do they even know what it is to kill civilians? Well, I'm sure you have been watching the series and knowing they are willing to kill, so I'm sure they know what it is to kill. >Do they think of it as a game when they start killing at 6 years old? I don't know in which world you got that they think of it as a game, but as you can see they definitely take it as work. >And do all the criminals killed violently by the lycoris necessarily deserve death as a punishment? I don't think so, think something similar to Death Note as how Light simply killed any criminal without actually caring about what they did and if they deserved to being killed. I know this isn't talking good about the DA, but my point isn't defending them. >How many orphans are goaded into being lycoris and bullied and harassed by their peers because they were too 'pussy' enough to not kill people and blindly follow orders?? I don't know, do you really need a number of how many people has been "goaded" into it? Because I doubt you will ever get an actual number for it because it isn't neccesary. >what about those who didnt have a fucking chisato in their lives and pulled the trigger on their heads just because they became depressed and felt they had no other meaning and that they were worthless because their parents and now the DA has abandoned them??? You are overthinking it, have you ever heard in the series that people have suicided after being abandoned from the DA? Actually, Takina was transfered to another place, what makes you think that this wasn't the case with other girls too? A question aside form all of this: >which is mostly ripped outta psycho pass Where do you get that this is ripped from Psycho Pass? Are you implying that Psycho Pass was the first series to ever have this kind of setting and that's why the one we see in Lycoris Recoil is ripped off of it? And yes, what happened in the last episode as a cover up of the Lycoris is completely dumb, I definitely agree with you in that. |
CickNipolla said: RogerCop said: You're confusing the situation. The better comparison would be if terrorists attack the center of New York in the daylight, blew upped a few buildings and the news would say it was a Michael Bay movie. with how marketing is these days, its entirely possible. you are delusional |
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| I raised an eyebrow at that scene, but afterwards thought that it was actually quite consistent with the world setting. Obviously they're not going to completely cover it up 100%, there were murders, but that can be taken care of, I'd assume. The "fix up" could have been done better for sure though. |
ironic for someone who gave hxh a 10 to call others delusional |
Piromysl said: Elevatorisbest said: Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history. Lol, how? If your reference is social media then you are confusing zoomers (not all btw) are somehow the majority. |
| This is just a way for the writers to say that the good guy wins and all matter is resolve. Don't think too much about I'm fairly certain the writers didn't |
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| Guys, it's just bad writing. No need to go on an endless discussion about media manipulation and government conspiracies. This shitshow doesn't deserve it. |
| People thinking the average intelligence of people(and bots) on social media represents the average intelligence of actual people all around the globe in order to justify the lazy writing is just hilarious. |
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| FB, Twitter, insta, together with legacy medias... when it comes to the new tools for mass manipulation and manufacturing consent used by the ruling class on a dumb and blind populace, reality is much, much worse that what we have in this show. |
JeremiahOrange said: I agree. Every civilian's IQ has been reduced so low that the only way the plot makes any sense is if it was written and acted out by a bunch of idiot cardboards. There has been so much gore and blood in the broadcast last episode but they wave it off with a new attraction ad and everyone is ok. Yeah, not just money, but the blood of civilians gunned down by younglings/lycoris and police. but who cares, as long as they get to visit the next crap of attractions, dont ask questions, just switch off your brains because audience is concerned about yuri bait more than the plot. We can't have a realistic or ethical discussion, just a cheap copout that's the best lycoris can do apparently.. They are just piggybanking off psycho pass's setting. Just all the same things copied with 0 of the essence. Just as long as people turn off their brains and sing "SAKANA MATATA" everything is ok . You put it so perfectly. It's actually crazy the amount of bs excuses people make for this show because they think the characters are cute or gay. |
dont those two shows actually have endings unlike mid x mid |
im glad we agree hxh is a 7 at best, i personally gave it a 6 |
SkyhighCFC said: Gazz said: If you nitpick an anime with their flaws, any title will look dumb and disappointing. About that, I agree. But, dont you think that the girls being so strong, Chisato can't be hit by bullet, Takina wearing mens underwear are more unrealistic than the civilians? Lycoris is not a perfect anime. But its pretty damn good. I'd say it's enjoyable... ...as long as you learn to turn your brain off when watching the episodes. "Good" might be a little too generous given the amount of logical and narrative inconsistencies and conveniences the show has thrown in our face. Whats your favorite anime and I'll describe it as "not good for me" using your own logic. |
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| I mean if I agree with you, then what does that make us (the real people). We're really not that different from the fictional civilians. Rather than being smacked over the face with an inconvenient truth, wouldn't you prefer a peace in ignorance. There are plenty of civilians sewing conspiracy theories, let's just say that we have a pretty good grasp on the fact that those conspiracies are in fact very plausible. But the government's dirty laundry is not just dirty it's been submerged in radiation poison. As a civilian, I'm going to steer clear of it, thank you very much. |
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RogerCop said: Mate, just because 10% of the population believes the earth is flat, doesn't mean the other 90% are dumb. LMAO, it's hilarious it has to be pointed out, jesus christ. |
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Elevatorisbest said: I find it hard to believe that all the civilians decided to simultanously change their minds and thought that Lycoris and all the shootings along with the fight at the Tower was just a big prank just because some short tv announcement told them so Have you been under a rock the past 2 years? Yes, that's exactly what makes it realistic: the government fired their propaganda machine, the Current Thing update was distributed and the NPCs immediately start supporting the Current Thing. In the real world 90% of the population are NPCs who will firmly believe that other governments/parties are corrupt, evil and do bad things but THEIR government/party "would never do such a thing"; other media lie, collude to push propaganda and brainwash people but THEIR favorite media "would never do such a thing"; everyone who would suggest that such bad things are happening is a "conspiracy theorist" and every proof they bring is propaganda that has already been deboonked. Want the proof that what's shown in the anime is 100% realistic? It's easy, just imagine it: you close MAL, your friend DM you saying that the peaceful society you've been living in is false, you government is lying to everyone and there's high school girls fighting terrorists left and right. He shows you the video, and says that he saw one of the girls killing a random stranger. You search on Google and every single media and deboonker says it's a movie trailer. What are you going to believe? a) Everything is a lie, government bad. b) Your friend is nuts. There you have it: perfectly realistic. Anyone who says that "the civilians are too dumb" or "the deceased's family will never believe a lie" it's because they're part of the 90% of NPCs. |
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