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tsubasaloverNov 25, 2009 10:53 PM
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tsubasalover said: lol calm down kid; what's next, if you can't watch the preview on CR, you'll just base your post on the preview from last week's episode?I only watched 2 min preview on CR... (Because gogoanime and most streaming sites that available listed last ep as this ep...) Anyways, after watching, I was totally disappointed by the way things came about in the episode. Tomo finally unleashed those powers we so longed to see in the OP, but it didn't have the effect that I wish it could; perhaps it was the lack of fast paced bgm. Still, I really like Tomo as a character now; he was really decisive about his decisions and really did confess to Takatsuki, even wanted to make sure that she heard him correctly. Once again, dead characters poping up was great, especially Yukari and Aine. |
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HawthorneKitty said: tsubasalover said: lol calm down kid; what's next, if you can't watch the preview on CR, you'll just base your post on the preview from last week's episode?I only watched 2 min preview on CR... (Because gogoanime and most streaming sites that available listed last ep as this ep...) ?? I watched the two min preview on CR, so that's what I wrote. Anyway, with the part about Yukari and 2nd world Shuri... I actually am more convinced that she's actually Yukari instead of Shuri, which this was I thought for a while (I even requested to change the character description for Shuri that time). |
tsubasaloverNov 25, 2009 11:03 PM
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| I thought this ep. was amazing in how it connected everything in a full circle by having Ania being the researcher who creates Asura Machina and sends the 1st Tomo into the 2nd world. The implications of this are pretty huge because it means that she's the root behind all of the dead burial dolls in 2nd world including Aki and thus the actions of Kagayaka and Tooru. Basically, she choose to create Asura Machina anyways and not reset the dual world paradox because she's betting on 2nd Tomo to return to his world and finish 1st Tomo's world-saving mission, while at the same time dooming all the events of 2nd world to happen... Since when did this show get so timeparadoxy? Well I like it. On the other hand, world 1 sort of shows the 'happy' future that could have been if Ania had not created Asura Machina. Minus the demons and the black hole [because 2nd Naotaka is already dead]. Though this ep. does create some funny inconsistencies, since Ania likes 1st Tomo and everyone thinks they're going out, but he confesses to Misao in that memory resonance flashback from a while ago. Or maybe he's just as indecisive-until-the-last-moment as 2nd Tomo... And at that, I really liked how 2nd Tomo is finally getting some more man-ness and becoming more like 1st Tomo. Maybe he will hurry up and contract Kanade and become Asura Cryin and get his stuff done already. |
tsubasalover said: Anyway, with the part about Yukari and 2nd world Shuri... I actually am more convinced that she's actually Yukari instead of Shuri, which this was I thought for a while (I even requested to change the character description for Shuri that time). Well...1st world Yukari is the more noisy and uplifting one. And 2nd world 'Shuri' IIRC changed her personality to that of her sister. So if they remained unchanged [which might not be true] in 1st world, 2nd world Shuri really is Shuri. |
The begining was so cute...little Misao/Natsuru in the forest with Natsuru finding Misao. Good comedy with Natsume grabbing Nia's breasts while yelling Misao with Nia biting him giving him bad luck...*laugh* at his misfortune. Happy that everyone came back alive and Yukari was so nice to confort Natsume. I have not seen Natsume crying for sometime so it made me sad. Best was when Dark Colossus appeared. It was so huge and powerful with a big mouth beam but Aki got damaged even if she protected the school with all the se demons. So just like the flashback...people ignore the swallowing of the black hole but little by little the world is dissapearing. Anne was also great to show having a good crush on Natsume. Still can't believe that Natsume confessed to Takatsuki but finally he did. Nia revealing God gave up on people so they all had to become demons to save the world and Nia creating the Machinas was strange . So in the end Nia liked first Natsume and gave hin Hagane to go to second world where he found out that the original Natsume was dying so things are going to get repeated....I know something here if Natsume makes Asura Cryin with Kurogane then things can get fixed. Pretty sure or goes before Misao/Natsume go into the plane. My favorite part of course must be Dark Colossus=> I have to also share my ^_^ + T_T at these scenes....it was so nice to see Aine that affected me a lot at the end of first season, also Yukari (did almost not see her in first season except for one episode) and of course Shuri/Reishiro/Saeki=>Kuisanagi said: I thought this ep. was amazing in how it connected everything in a full circle by having Ania being the researcher who creates Asura Machina and sends the 1st Tomo into the 2nd world. The implications of this are pretty huge because it means that she's the root behind all of the dead burial dolls in 2nd world including Aki and thus the actions of Kagayaka and Tooru. Basically, she choose to create Asura Machina anyways and not reset the dual world paradox because she's betting on 2nd Tomo to return to his world and finish 1st Tomo's world-saving mission, while at the same time dooming all the events of 2nd world to happen... Since when did this show get so timeparadoxy? Well I like it. Yeah it is a big paradox. Little Nia knowns all her sister Christina found out in the future because of something Nia created in the past and now older Nia can correct her mistake like I mentioned two ways. Kuisanagi said: On the other hand, world 1 sort of shows the 'happy' future that could have been if Ania had not created Asura Machina. Minus the demons and the black hole [because 2nd Naotaka is already dead]. Though this ep. does create some funny inconsistencies, since Ania likes 1st Tomo and everyone thinks they're going out, but he confesses to Misao in that memory resonance flashback from a while ago. Or maybe he's just as indecisive-until-the-last-moment as 2nd Tomo... Nothing could have been done unless that black hole experiment was stopped. Too bad they did not make Kurogane destroy all that facility responsible for the black hole before it started to have the failed experiment. Kuisanagi said: And at that, I really liked how 2nd Tomo is finally getting some more man-ness and becoming more like 1st Tomo. Maybe he will hurry up and contract Kanade and become Asura Cryin and get his stuff done already. Yeah, confesion to Takatsuki....more breast grabbing of Nia, seeing Toru naked+touching her...getting a confession of Anne and standing in a front of a demon to fight with his own strengh.....nothing can be asked of a man. Natsume matured a lot..... |
francismeunierNov 26, 2009 12:23 AM
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| so crossing time/worlds give powers? and tomo's got that colossus? damn.. what about kanade? hopefully she'll probably just regain her fire powers just like what i saw in the preview.. so besides tomo getting that colossus, he'll have an improved version of kurogane, he'll probably make a contract with kanade effectively making him an asura cryin, and that's just too strong.. but who are the villains? haven't seen 2nd world glasses guy.. anyway.. this anime should have done this earlier.. being this amazing.. some scenes were a bit rushed because it's coming to an end with 4 eps remaining.. |
| I started to feel like I was watching Shakugan no Shana when they brought up SPOILER: the disappearing world and everything. |
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| Great episode, but I don't like where the romance part is heading. Poor Misao is all I can say. She even sacrificed her life for him... |
Xsuit said: I have seen Shana for 2 seasons and I still have no fucking idea what the heck are they trying to do in those 2 seasons.I started to feel like I was watching Shakugan no Shana when they brought up SPOILER: the disappearing world and everything. argilium said: He was there in the last episode living with them.... but who are the villains? haven't seen 2nd world glasses guy.. anyway.. this anime should have done this earlier.. being this amazing.. some scenes were a bit rushed because it's coming to an end with 4 eps remaining.. And yeah, they should have done this earlier. They should have been serious since the first season. |
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| Great dream, especially how it ended xD. And then, I'll state the obvious once again, Awesome OP is Awesome : D On to less obvious things: The Episode. No he didn't! Bah, lukcliy, Takatsuki didn't hear it. Aine was riding a fish? wth? xD. And lol at Tomo's expression after his talk with whatever-her-face who wanted to go to the christmas party with him xD.. At last, Natsume awakens : > Oh.. and.. it wasn't small either O.O Oh so now they're gonna pull smart one? (the stuff about one thing leading to another and to another, and without a later things the first wouldn't come to be, etc, you know what I mean) Anyway, we got some Misao in the end, and next episode seems to be good. Can only hope for an awesome ending : > And that they don't screw up. Oh and btw, is there anyone except me who thinks that they might decide to come up with some great idea so that those who died didn't really die? I sure hope they don't do that D: tl;dr I want more: Misao, Nia, Aki, Toru and Yukari : D I want less: Takatsuki, and other randoms D: |
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| Good episode. Things are really starting to make sense which makes the overall show better. Silaqui said: I feel that no matter who Natsume chooses....someone's going to get hurt (depending on Takatsuki's feelings). First we have to see if Takatsuki truly feels the same about Natsume because like how Natusme was thinking...she sure doesn't seem to be showing any differences in her personality towards Natsume. I wonder if Takatsuki thinks Natsume should be with Misao?Great episode, but I don't like where the romance part is heading. Poor Misao is all I can say. She even sacrificed her life for him... |
saxophone15 said: I wonder if Takatsuki thinks Natsume should be with Misao? Sure hope she does, or at least that she isn't thinking of hogging Tomo for herself D: |
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Oosran said: I think Tomo should have the threesome....sry Oosran dude but Aki might be gone since Tomo is going from this world....unless everyone lives in the other world somehow....saxophone15 said: I wonder if Takatsuki thinks Natsume should be with Misao? Sure hope she does, or at least that she isn't thinking of hogging Tomo for herself D: |
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francismeunier said: Oosran said: I think Tomo should have the threesome....sry Oosran dude but Aki might be gone since Tomo is going from this world....unless everyone lives in the other world somehow....saxophone15 said: I wonder if Takatsuki thinks Natsume should be with Misao? Sure hope she does, or at least that she isn't thinking of hogging Tomo for herself D: Uh.. So? Sure I might've said I wanted to see more of her, but that's just in comparison with others like.. Takatsuki for example : p Also, as I think I might've said earlier, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they choose to to something drastical in the end so that everyone in some strange way would be alive. |
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francismeunier said: Kuisanagi said: On the other hand, world 1 sort of shows the 'happy' future that could have been if Ania had not created Asura Machina. Minus the demons and the black hole [because 2nd Naotaka is already dead]. Though this ep. does create some funny inconsistencies, since Ania likes 1st Tomo and everyone thinks they're going out, but he confesses to Misao in that memory resonance flashback from a while ago. Or maybe he's just as indecisive-until-the-last-moment as 2nd Tomo... Nothing could have been done unless that black hole experiment was stopped. Too bad they did not make Kurogane destroy all that facility responsible for the black hole before it started to have the failed experiment. Well, the black hole experiment will probably not occur in world 2, because of the absence of Jyuujirin and Naotaka. But if I think about it, Tomo is also dead in the plane crash in world 2... Technically the best solution would be to use Hagane to travel back in time while going to world 2 so they can keep everyone alive. But in that case, if they don't allow Kagayaka to successfully kill 1st Tomo and take Hagane then Ania will never have gone to world 1 and Asura Machina will never have been created and then everything will reset again so that world 1 will be destroyed by the black hole. So I guess the only solution is to allow the things that have happened to happen. Too bad for Shuri and 1st Tomo... Actually another way would be to use Hagane to time travel to the past of 1st world in order to fix the black hole, though Ania would still have to create it sometime in the future. But that's not going to happen because its too easy of a solution! |
Kuisanagi said: francismeunier said: Kuisanagi said: On the other hand, world 1 sort of shows the 'happy' future that could have been if Ania had not created Asura Machina. Minus the demons and the black hole [because 2nd Naotaka is already dead]. Though this ep. does create some funny inconsistencies, since Ania likes 1st Tomo and everyone thinks they're going out, but he confesses to Misao in that memory resonance flashback from a while ago. Or maybe he's just as indecisive-until-the-last-moment as 2nd Tomo... Nothing could have been done unless that black hole experiment was stopped. Too bad they did not make Kurogane destroy all that facility responsible for the black hole before it started to have the failed experiment. Well, the black hole experiment will probably not occur in world 2, because of the absence of Jyuujirin and Naotaka. But if I think about it, Tomo is also dead in the plane crash in world 2... Technically the best solution would be to use Hagane to travel back in time while going to world 2 so they can keep everyone alive. But in that case, if they don't allow Kagayaka to successfully kill 1st Tomo and take Hagane then Ania will never have gone to world 1 and Asura Machina will never have been created and then everything will reset again so that world 1 will be destroyed by the black hole. So I guess the only solution is to allow the things that have happened to happen. Too bad for Shuri and 1st Tomo... Actually another way would be to use Hagane to time travel to the past of 1st world in order to fix the black hole, though Ania would still have to create it sometime in the future. But that's not going to happen because its too easy of a solution! And as I was saying, they have found a delicious hole which they can put into a loop of stuff, and preventing one would prevent the next which affect everything else and thus preventing the first from being prevented which makes stuff go haywire and things just doesn't work that way. Right?: ) |
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Oosran said: And as I was saying, they have found a delicious hole which they can put into a loop of stuff, and preventing one would prevent the next which affect everything else and thus preventing the first from being prevented which makes stuff go haywire and things just doesn't work that way. Right?: ) Well I think its probably not going to happen, but you can still retcon the initial conditions with time travel... Like I said, go back in time to fix the black hole, then create Hagane later to fufill the initial conditions. Or go back in time to world 2 to prevent Aki from dying and Kagayaka from killing 1st Tomo, and then still using Hagane to send Ania back in time to world 2 so Asura Machina don't dissappear. Either way, everything hinges on Ania creating Hagane so that time travel is possible, so I guess she made the right decision after all... |
| Fun episode - Aine on the fish was awesome xD Also Ania making asura cryin, delicious paradox plot their. Also woot Tomo gaining demon powers and it being explained. Dark Colossus slapping that demon before using his epic mouth beam. argilium said: sobut who are the villains? haven't seen 2nd world glasses guy.. He appears in last episode but thats 2nd world version, likely he will make a big showdown in last few episodes, maybe it will end on cliffhanger? |
AlliedGNov 26, 2009 11:11 AM
| I have to admit that I like this anime. But this episode is quite stupid imo. Ania in adult form is what keep me interested. That Shadow of Colossus is somewhat dull. :P |
| It was more plot development in regards to the actual plot which was paper thin in S1. I.e. the bad experiment, causing a rip in space-time continium hence demons from another world and basically trying to fix it. Yet again Tomo seeing the life of his alternate universe/future self and gaining the resolve/strength to save his own world. Kanade becoming human and Tomo becoming a demon was a nice twist. Also surprising revelations in regards to Ania loving future Tomo and his resolve i.e he knew he was going to die. That time paradox/dimensional thing can fry your mind. Also yay for Misao return. |
Siva said: He was there in the last episode living with them.argilium said: He was there in the last episode living with them... but who are the villains? haven't seen 2nd world glasses guy.. anyway.. this anime should have done this earlier.. being this amazing.. some scenes were a bit rushed because it's coming to an end with 4 eps remaining.. And yeah, they should have done this earlier. They should have been serious since the first season.i know about that.. i want to see the one with the hagane and that ice phoenix.. Kleeyook said: lolis.. they suddenly pwn the other girls if they grow up..I have to admit that I like this anime. But this episode is quite stupid imo. Ania in adult form is what keep me interested. That Shadow of Colossus is somewhat dull. :P |
argiliumNov 27, 2009 7:53 AM
Kirion said: i don't know if the hizaika rules still apply in that world so technically, we can't assume that is a plothole immediately.. i think it's because that world is readily accepting creatures outside its realm, therefore no rejection and no hizaika.. what is experiencing the hizaika is that world itself.. what they should have done though, is explain it clearly..How come Nia using her powers without contractor for 5 years and looks okm while Takatski can't, and no one even questioned this? Seriously this show is so full of shitty plotholes. Also Nia's confession scene - fail. And Tomo is dumb as ever: yeah, she loved your twin (trying to find you in him, obviously) and you just patted her had. |
argilium said: I agree with that...it's kind of that anti magic toxin effect in Umineko with Ange in the class at one point.Kirion said: i don't know if the hizaika rules still apply in that world so technically, we can't assume that is a plothole immediately.. i think it's because that world is readily accepting creatures outside its realm, therefore no rejection and no hizaika.. what is experiencing the hizaika is that world itself.. what they should have done though, is explain it clearly..How come Nia using her powers without contractor for 5 years and looks okm while Takatski can't, and no one even questioned this? Seriously this show is so full of shitty plotholes. Also Nia's confession scene - fail. And Tomo is dumb as ever: yeah, she loved your twin (trying to find you in him, obviously) and you just patted her had. |
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| Don't want to write much. I liked this episode. All take places as it should and 10 must be interesting. |
Nachtwandler_21Nov 28, 2009 8:39 AM
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| Random beambreath introduced in the most uninspiring way ftw. Or maybe I will call it oral deathray |
| Yay for high budget to vary the monster animations, was there like 2 or 3 different kinds that came? Kvakond said: No it must be the "Colossus Lazor BWAAAAH!!". Random beambreath introduced in the most uninspiring way ftw. Or maybe I will call it oral deathray But to be somewhat fair they actually explained why tomo got the powers, which I did not expect them to do |
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| So Misao is lost? And Tomo needs to find her? I miss her!!! LOL, Nia's got boobs, and she called him a player, maybe they really are bf/gf in this world. But I guess that would mean there's another Tomo in this world? OMG, dogs, cats, horses, and bears....Oh My!!! xP Now the opening scenes are making a lot more sense!!!! Nia is awesome as a teen!!!!! HA HA, Aki and Toru pwnd Tomo..."What a lousy morning". So, he only told Takatsuki he "liked" her not "loved", did she hear him? What, Nia has "business" with Takatsuki? So Aine's also alive in this world. Fish sled FTW!!!! And Shuri-san is there, but is it this world's Shuri or the other world, she's wearing the Student Council's clothes? And, the way they're talking did Tomo overwrite his other self, or is it just because "Naotaka" died, but Tomo seems to have been in this world the whole time?! OK, so it was "Naotaka" that everyone knew here. So, that Tomo and Nia were dating, but she knew it wasn't the Tomo she knew? Yukari FTW!!!!!! I love this world b/c everyones alive. And, she knows he's the other worlds Tomo! This world's disappearing and that's why "Naotaka" wanted to go to the other world so bad. So, I guess Tomo, Nia, Takatsuki, and Misao have to save this world? And, then they'll be able to go back, and everything will be fixed again? I hope so, I really hope Shuri-san isn't dead? Noooooo, Shuri-san!!!!! :( Collosus of Darkness? OMFGEPIC!!! He said he'll become a demon if that's what it takes. but I thought Takatsuki was the demon, and he would be the contractor, and Misao the Burial Doll to form the Asura Cryin? Now I'm really confused! Ok, so he got demon powers, by transfering between worlds. Aki is the shit!! This world's girls are way better!! There should be an OVA of just this world with "Naotaka" as the main character!! This is so Epic!!!!! So, Nia made Higane, knowing everything that was gonna happen! Everything's coming together so perfectly. It was a long wait, but I'm predicting this show to end with a bang!!!! And, Misao's back!!!! I love this show!!! Urahara Out!! Sent with Mal Updater |
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| Where can I watch this episode subbed? I downloaded HorribleSubs episode 9 and it was just episode 8. |
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| So this is indeed a circle like I suspected last episode (not an endless one though). Natsume that we know from season 1 appears to have the power to brake it and potentially save everyone. Also seems I was right about Mina only jumping a few weeks into the future as apposed to Natsume and Takatski jumping a whole year or so into the future (not sure exactly how far they jumped). PS. anyone looking for ep 9 just download Chihiro's ep 22. HorribleSubs messed up their number scheme apparently. 8 was 9 and 9 was 8 but then someone reported the mixup and 8 (9) was removed and 9 was renamed to 8 :S. |
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| lols .. pretty interesting stuff going on ... there's now two Misao xD |
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| It's a bit confusing with two worlds but it's quite interesting.. And yay, Misao is back! |
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Kuisanagi said: tsubasalover said: Anyway, with the part about Yukari and 2nd world Shuri... I actually am more convinced that she's actually Yukari instead of Shuri, which this was I thought for a while (I even requested to change the character description for Shuri that time). Well...1st world Yukari is the more noisy and uplifting one. And 2nd world 'Shuri' IIRC changed her personality to that of her sister. So if they remained unchanged [which might not be true] in 1st world, 2nd world Shuri really is Shuri. I think you are confused. Yukari is the more gentle girly one in both worlds. And Shuri is the more strong crazy one in both worlds also. But in the second world Shuri died and put in the Asura Machina while Yukari changed her personality to that of Shuri. The Shuri we all know is actually Yukari. Except of her acting like her true self when she lost her memory wasn't also obvious by the fact that she call her sister inside that Asura Machina Shuri? If she was really Shuri and the one inside the mecha was Yukari why the hell would she call her Shuri? |
MonadJan 11, 2010 9:22 PM
| This episode is the really handsome. I was very surprised when he used his demonic powers and called Colossus of Darkness. |
| I'm a bit confuse - why if human become demon and demon become human Nia hasn't lost her powers while Kanade lost it O_o And how Tomo found his demon powers? thinkgreen said: ... so he chose Takatsuki over Misao.... lame! Agree. This is epic fail *Facepalm* I hope Tomo change his mind... |
francismeunier said: Oosran said: I think Tomo should have the threesome....sry Oosran dude but Aki might be gone since Tomo is going from this world....unless everyone lives in the other world somehow....saxophone15 said: I wonder if Takatsuki thinks Natsume should be with Misao? Sure hope she does, or at least that she isn't thinking of hogging Tomo for herself D: i think he should be with nia now, lol or with this worlds toru but damn this is really getting confusing, but it was really nice seeing yukari and having her support tomo. |
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