86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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_Kenzoku_ said: Finally, 86 is here soundtrack is amazing animation is crisp but most importantly, the pacing is good. it looks like it's going to take its actual time to build the atmosphere of the world instead of going into the action. I can't wait to see more Lena and Shin Also, the Lena with here hair up tho One thing I dislike is the character design. Shin just feels off for some reason. Agreed they really butchered his character design. |
| Honestly as a pure anime viewer for this series with zero background knowledge nor any experience with this title at all in the past, this first episode did leave me kinda dazed upon what exactly is going on in this world and just essentially the overall setting of the story. It just sorta looked like they bounced between different scenes a bit too rapidly without giving much premonition or context and so I was dumbfounded on several details throughout multiple occasions (e.g. the specialized terminologies they were using as they coordinated in the battle, the time lapses that occurred, etc etc.). Not necessarily that the pacing's terrible, as I've heard many say that this episode simply adapted the first chapter of the LN, it was just that I guess the script was slightly lacking for a bit. Enjoyed that first ep regardless tho; was anticipating the premiere of this show ever since they announced the adaptation as the premise is just my type of thing and yea not disappointed as of now. Animation and art-wise looks p fine thus far; not too shabby but not phenomenal or anything - CGI does look decent tho. Looking forward to the next episode bois <3 |
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I know right. He looks younger and less frightening than his LN design. |
| It was a really good start. The Major is cute and has great thighs. Cg robots were unexpectedly good, the music was great. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the Major and squadron. |
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_Kenzoku_ said: Finally, 86 is here soundtrack is amazing animation is crisp but most importantly, the pacing is good. it looks like it's going to take its actual time to build the atmosphere of the world instead of going into the action. I can't wait to see more Lena and Shin Also, the Lena with here hair up tho One thing I dislike is the character design. Shin just feels off for some reason. Blue haird Lena and Shin with silver scarf ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| A lot of stuff happened that I can't quite process much. I can't say this is overhyped, so I am hoping to see more. Looking forward to this. |
| Bro the Kujo guy was gonna be my favorite character and they killed him off already |
| This show seems pretty interesting. The cruel setting really intrigues me. I really like Lena's character. She seems like a really caring and intelligent girl(Probably waifu material). The CGI and the osts of this show are really well done. The scene where Kujo was killed was heartbreaking. I can already tell that this show is going to be very impactful. There's definitely potential with this show. I can't wait to see more! |
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| A bit of a loaded first episode but this is showing more potential than other ln adaptations. |
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| This got off to a pretty promising start, if it keeps this up this show can shape up to be one of the highlights of this anime season. I knew nothing about this going in but this first episode did a good job of holding my interest. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| A great premiere! Introduced the characters, got the story rolling, the conflict was clear. Got me invested real quick. Glad to see A-1 pictures make a return! What was really interested about this episode were the hair colors. All the citizens living in the city had light blue hair and the soldiers piloting the droids on the battlefield have a variety of different hair colors. Made me wonder, are those who are born without light blue hair sent to the battlefield? |
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| Looks promising but I was in a bad mood watching this so I had a hard time following lol. The animation at the beginning was really cool. I'm probably gonna rewatch this episode before the next one. |
| Mecha is back baby. We got thrown into this world and first start of in the perspective of Vladilena. We see she is a young major who shows empathy for the 86ers - a secret crew that are used to pilot the Republic's "unmanned drones" We then get to see the perspective of the 86ers and their hatred towards the people in charge such as Vladilena. They don't even see Vladilena before labelling her a pig, likely due to their previous mistreatment by the Republic - since they are slaves kept secret from the rest of the other 85 districts. Their was a dead man labelled "PIG" we saw in one of the first scene with the 86ers, so I assume that they play a large part in why the commanders of the 86ers all end up dead. They also drew a lady pig upon first hearing the voice of Vladilena. This show started off with an interesting world and concept. I'm looking forward to seeing where the show takes off from here. |
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| I'm really intrigued! This is a show that I'm surprisingly really excited for Mirize looks like she'll be a really cool character who has a ton of depth, so I can't wait to see things unravel with her |
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| The fight scenes are pretty quick, Well it;s probably hard to animate a lot of drones and stuff. I'm loving Lena's character. The world building is pretty amazing. |
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| Wow. This show is dark and gritty and I like it. I'm sure what the story is behind the war against the Empire, but it seems like the military is forcing the people to their war for them by piloting the drones. The military is also determined to keep the number of casualties off the record to boos their PR within the general public. Lena seems like a nice person that care about the soldiers under her command and she's in charge the Spearhead squadron in the 86th district lead by Shin the "Undertaker". |
AddaeAkonoApr 10, 2021 1:20 PM
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| Seeing Spearhead Squadron, I get Gundam: IBO vibes..... |
| "Genki is Life, Genki is Love" |
| That was fascinating. The concept of only pale, white hair "Übermenschen" ruling over other ethnicities seems especially interesting. |
| damn, im so fucking happy how good this adaptation is One of my favourite light novels and everything is just better than expected |
| This series gives me all kind of vibes. From AoT, to LotGH, even a bit of Hunger Games. Lena could come off as a odd choice for the female lead, she's too cute xD but then again, she's also purpose driven as well as talented, yet she still lacks experience. Tonal shifts feel natural and the production in general looks pretty neat. Promising start. This could be another A-1 hit. |
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| Great episode. Good that they already showed both main characters. Would have been boring otherwise. I hope they are going to switch between them regularly. And maybe some real plot development without this going on endlessly. But well ... it has a novel as source. Might take some time until they try to overthrow the system together - and until then just the guys fighting war with her as handler. |
| Super boring the first episode, but interesting at his end. Give me Gundam vibes for a second. Maybe can be cool |
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| There's something almost insulting about the way that the main character emotes so hard for blips on a screen even while she unabashedly luxuriates in a life of comfort and luxury while unwilling to do anything to buck the system that she grieves so hard for the people she willingly exploits and sacrifices. It would make a lot more narrative sense if she was ignorant or uncaring. Or if she was reluctant to take on the work instead of champing at the bit even when told she doesn't need to do it. But look at the emotion in her voice as she gives hard orders. She feeeeeeeels for her exploited slaves she's murdering as she sits in her padded chair after enjoying tea. She doesn't enact bold, crazy strategies to save their lives. She doesn't sacrifice her own station for them. She follows her orders, but feels sort of bad about it. And we're supposed to sympathize with her for that. And since it's a very uneventful episode, there's not a whole lot else to it except that. Melodramatic girl bums around for 15 minutes, occasionally being troubled by being a cog in a racist military industrial machine on steroids, but her life is comfortable, so it's only occasional pangs of conscience. Meanwhile, here's the battlefield. Blood and death. Stoic soldier boy executes a dying man. Yes, yes. Very societal. So much commentary. How about some characters with life, emotion, or actual engagement in the world to drive a story? Characters attempting to exert agency, to drive the story, to make it their own, to grow, to change, to change the world around them. Or are we just wallowing in borrowed misery while nibbling our biscuits, thinking that it'd be nice if things were different, but meh, not gonna be us to do that? There's certainly social commentary here, but it's not entirely what the show thinks it is. |
| Okay.. this was an extremely interesting start.. really loved the parallels.. A country of white haired peeps representing the upper class and black and different haired color peeps representing the rest of the world.. the lower class.. a.k.a the pigs.. Lena is pretty as hell! and Shin seems yer typical protag.. kinda happy that they won't be meeting each other since i really don't want a shakespear type love story here.. |
| So this is one of those shows which want to be really cool, really edgy and really beloved by the teens thus in result they come as really really stupid... Nice visuals tho. Besides being similar to Gundam IBO (as many people here mentioned) the first scene kind of reminded me a certain scene from Venus Senki. |
RayReynolds said: This is exactly what the series addresses later on and is one of the more important topics brought up in the first volume of the light novel.There's something almost insulting about the way that the main character emotes so hard for blips on a screen even while she unabashedly luxuriates in a life of comfort and luxury while unwilling to do anything to buck the system that she grieves so hard for the people she willingly exploits and sacrifices. It would make a lot more narrative sense if she was ignorant or uncaring. Or if she was reluctant to take on the work instead of champing at the bit even when told she doesn't need to do it. But look at the emotion in her voice as she gives hard orders. She feeeeeeeels for her exploited slaves she's murdering as she sits in her padded chair after enjoying tea. She doesn't enact bold, crazy strategies to save their lives. She doesn't sacrifice her own station for them. She follows her orders, but feels sort of bad about it. And we're supposed to sympathize with her for that |
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RayReynolds said: There's something almost insulting about the way that the main character emotes so hard for blips on a screen even while she unabashedly luxuriates in a life of comfort and luxury while unwilling to do anything to buck the system that she grieves so hard for the people she willingly exploits and sacrifices. It would make a lot more narrative sense if she was ignorant or uncaring. Or if she was reluctant to take on the work instead of champing at the bit even when told she doesn't need to do it. But look at the emotion in her voice as she gives hard orders. She feeeeeeeels for her exploited slaves she's murdering as she sits in her padded chair after enjoying tea. She doesn't enact bold, crazy strategies to save their lives. She doesn't sacrifice her own station for them. She follows her orders, but feels sort of bad about it. And we're supposed to sympathize with her for that. And since it's a very uneventful episode, there's not a whole lot else to it except that. Melodramatic girl bums around for 15 minutes, occasionally being troubled by being a cog in a racist military industrial machine on steroids, but her life is comfortable, so it's only occasional pangs of conscience. Meanwhile, here's the battlefield. Blood and death. Stoic soldier boy executes a dying man. Yes, yes. Very societal. So much commentary. How about some characters with life, emotion, or actual engagement in the world to drive a story? Characters attempting to exert agency, to drive the story, to make it their own, to grow, to change, to change the world around them. Or are we just wallowing in borrowed misery while nibbling our biscuits, thinking that it'd be nice if things were different, but meh, not gonna be us to do that? There's certainly social commentary here, but it's not entirely what the show thinks it is. Good points, especially what you said about Lena. It was a bit unsettling to watch. |
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dz_1998 said: As someone that has already read the light novel, all I can say is that all of your complaints about this 20 minute episode will be addressed in later episodes Oh, a retcon to make this chick way more believable for a person coming from a privileged class...sounds even sloppier. As RayReynolds mentioned - her being an arrogant and misguided odjou-sama in the beginning would be more fun. |
| Hmmm not bad for 1 episode. I have many questions and hope I get answer. But those spiders mecha seem off ... I could say they are highly unpractical for battlefield. But maybe there will be more. Or maybe the top clones just don't care. |
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Saygram said: Hmmm not bad for 1 episode. I have many questions and hope I get answer. But those spiders mecha seem off ... I could say they are highly unpractical for battlefield. But maybe there will be more. Or maybe the top clones just don't care. Looking at it from this world's perspective. It seems they made them in response to the enemy's versions. It seems maneuverable ability is important in the environment of warfare to avoid artilliary. |
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| This was a really good start! I'm yet to fully understand what's going on but I liked the plot a lot. It reminded me a bit of Code Geass and Darling in the FranXX. Really interested in seeing how this story unfolds! |
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alshu said: It happened in the first volume in the novel. You can't call it a retcon if the novel was written with the intention of bringing that up.dz_1998 said: As someone that has already read the light novel, all I can say is that all of your complaints about this 20 minute episode will be addressed in later episodes Oh, a retcon to make this chick way more believable for a person coming from a privileged class...sounds even sloppier. As RayReynolds mentioned - her being an arrogant and misguided odjou-sama in the beginning would be more fun. |
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| Okay, we're safe for now. A1 did a really good job with episode 1 and I have high hopes for the rest of the show. Fuckin glory to the spearhead squadron!!! |
| A thing that would be good, if had an aerial view from the world,to a better introduction.I don't care if there's a war happening , but if they are winning, why is hard to get milk and eggs? And this will be an anime about overthrowing white supremacists? Why I feel that the juggernaut, is just a Tachikoma without personality? Comment will be interesting with so many LN elitists here. |
BlichoBoyApr 10, 2021 3:12 PM
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Saygram said: Hmmm not bad for 1 episode. I have many questions and hope I get answer. But those spiders mecha seem off ... I could say they are highly unpractical for battlefield. But maybe there will be more. Or maybe the top clones just don't care. Lol that’s the point. Compared to the legion, juggernauts are terrible or mediocre at best. The republic lauds them as some achievement yet shin casually takes off a piece from the frame with his knife. The duality is ironic, and that is intended. Juggernauts are flimsy. They’re not even drones. Just some battle machines that have pilots with the subhuman tags to allow them to call it a drone and feed their ego that they have outdone the enemy by building some advanced drone to fight. |
Shishou_23Apr 10, 2021 3:08 PM
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| Damn this looks really good! seems like this anime will tackle things like racism/discrimination, I have really high hopes for this. Also, Fuckin' glory to the spearhead squadron!!! |
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| Absolutely phenomenal adaptation. I truly don't have a big problem except for the way they overexaggerate how handler talk to their processor in the first scene. Truly the only anime im looking forward this season. Hope the rest of the adaptation goes well. |
| Yet another impossible dystopia. When you can't think up content, use the food scene as a crutch. Twice. Throw in a kitty for good measure. Wonder if we'll ever be told why they don't simply kill these kids with non-blue hair and use robots or remote pilots instead. Either way, a lot of bad ideas clumsily handled. |
GoldenDevilGamer said: alshu said: It happened in the first volume in the novel. You can't call it a retcon if the novel was written with the intention of bringing that up.Oh, a retcon to make this chick way more believable for a person coming from a privileged class...sounds even sloppier. As RayReynolds mentioned - her being an arrogant and misguided odjou-sama in the beginning would be more fun. OK, still pretty desperate move to make her look cool and politically correct early on...which also contradicts with her killing a lot of those guys in her missions. If she is supposed to be so empathic - why not quit military and do something by political means to save them? Yes, this would mean less action and way more grinding against the machine, loosing privileges and eventually going to jail... No matter how you slice it, her character here come as nonsensical. PS To sum it up: AlShu: The Emperor has no clothes. GoldenDevilGamer: But...but there is an explanation. |
alshuApr 10, 2021 3:42 PM
Sokah said: How the Eighty-sixers are handled, why the juggernauts are unmanned, how their food resources are limited, all of these will be explained eventually. In the novels, they were kinda infodumped at the very beginning, but it seems like the anime wants to space out the information and leave it for (hopefully) the next episode. Yet another impossible dystopia. When you can't think up content, use the food scene as a crutch. Twice. Throw in a kitty for good measure. Wonder if we'll ever be told why they don't simply kill these kids with non-blue hair and use robots or remote pilots instead. Either way, a lot of bad ideas clumsily handled. alshu said: She didn't try to get them killed in battle. Her tactics were simply not enough against the legion force. The reason why she's a handler is because she wants to command the 86-ers and make them victorious in battle while minimizing the casualties. As for why she chooses this path instead of going for something political has to do more with her upbringing, which will be brought up eventually. It's a bit hard going into details without entering spoiler territory, but in the end, we're not supposed to be sympathizing with Lena at all. If she comes off as unreasonable and/or hypocritical, then that's just a part of the writing itself and not something that was unintentional. GoldenDevilGamer said: It happened in the first volume in the novel. You can't call it a retcon if the novel was written with the intention of bringing that up. OK, still pretty desperate move to make her look cool and politically correct early on...which also contradicts with her killing a lot of those guys in her missions. If she is supposed to be so empathic - why not quit military and do something by political means to save them? Yes, this would mean less action and way more grinding against the machine, loosing privileges and eventually going to jail... No matter how you slice it, her character here come as nonsensical. If there's an explanation, then there's an explanation. Whether you're satisfied with the explanation is all up to you. I'm just stating that there's an reason to her character being the way she is. Whether you want to stick around for the explanation is up to you, and whether you are satisfied with the reasoning given is also up to you. |
GoldenDevilGamerApr 10, 2021 4:03 PM
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| Okay, this is looking better than I expected it to be. A-1 Pictures' been on a rise especially with the level of quality they've been treating us with and this is another fantastic addition of the collection. Suspenseful use of CGI blended in with gorgeous 2D visuals, this is really good! It's incredible how the Republic do not even report any casualties or fatalities even though the exact opposite thing is occurring real time. Definitely curious why though, I feel like it's to "lessen the power gap" with the Empire. Main Characters seems like cool and interesting company in their own ways, definitely excited for this even more than ever before now! |
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alshu said: GoldenDevilGamer said: It happened in the first volume in the novel. You can't call it a retcon if the novel was written with the intention of bringing that up. OK, still pretty desperate move to make her look cool and politically correct early on...which also contradicts with her killing a lot of those guys in her missions. If she is supposed to be so empathic - why not quit military and do something by political means to save them? Yes, this would mean less action and way more grinding against the machine, loosing privileges and eventually going to jail... No matter how you slice it, her character here come as nonsensical. I'm not sure I understand your problem here. You want her to be a fully fleshed characters from the first episode? There's no other episode aired, there's no meaning to do some "what if". She is exacty what was said, she is a privileged person who think she is doing something right by just mourning for the 86 but does nothing proactive about it, basically she is a hypocrite. The anime hasn't shown anything about her and her future action yet, how can you even think she is nonsensical? |
| Bit of a slow start but it was pretty interesting to set things up. I went in blind, mostly due to the mecha aspect. So it seems there is a "higher" human species slaving other "lower" humans? And apparently Lena is not cool with that. A pretty bold concept to make a story around but can it stay interesting enough for 2 cours? |
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