| This is why you shouldn't take MAL scores seriously. The score dropped drastically after episode 2, because some people didn't like the plot twist and the different artstyle. It's not a typical shounen, isekai with self-insert protagonist surrounded by hot waifus or some moe garbage, so it's only natural that the score is so low. But I think it will go up by the end of the show. |
ame-furiSep 3, 2020 4:39 AM
| People are hesitant to rate new shows higher as compared to sequels of shows they already love. For example, after Deca-Dence's first two episodes, most people rated it 6 or 7 or 8 which is reasonable because not a lot happened and why would you rate any new anime a 10 based on the first two episodes unless they managed to pull of a miracle, but on the other hand, the first two Re:Zero S2 episodes weren't something utterly amazing either, as shit was just building up then, yet fans of S1 had already spammed 9s and 10s (ofc they've been waiting for years). Not saying Re:Zero doesn't deserve a higher rating because I feel it does too, but my point is regarding the initial reception. So after initial ratings are complete, something like Deca-Dence is sitting at 7.5 or something, and Re:Zero is sitting around 9. A great Re:Zero episode will instantaneously make a lot of people jump the rating up by miles, but in case of new shows there is a hesitance. The top few rated shows of this season are mostly sequels. If there are flaws in a new show that people didn't like, shows like GoHS or KanoKari or Deca-Dence, people won't think for a second before rating it 2 or 3. The same isn't possible for shows like Oregairu S3 and ReZero because even if they are many flaws, many fans will find themselves able to look beyond them or drop the rating to a 6 or 7 at worst. Ofc one way for a new anime to easily gain traction and high ratings is being adapted from popular or high rated source material, or a greatly well known studio, but despite the uniqueness of Deca-Dence it has neither. It's an original series so there's no source material fans to hype it up and Nut has maybe one widely recognizable work (Youjo Senki) And finally, an important point, a lot of people were initially put off by the fact that the synopsis made it look like an AoT clone, but then a lot of (idk if they were the same) people who didn't like it when the story branched off into a new direction entirely after episode 2. I'd be lying if I didn't feel a bit hesitant about the show after that plot twist. Many people probably dropped it in the initial two episodes so the 1/5 rule will end up bumping the rating up when DD ends imo. It's a good show but if somebody genuinely doesn't like it, that is obviously acceptable. Although I do feel sequels are treated more fairly in terms of ratings, I suppose it's only natural for this to be the case. |
spectrojanSep 3, 2020 4:45 AM
| This anime shit is addictive |
spectrojan said: People are hesitant to rate new shows higher as compared to sequels of shows they already love. For example, after Deca-Dence's first two episodes, most people rated it 6 or 7 or 8 which is reasonable because not a lot happened and why would you rate any new anime a 10 based on the first two episodes unless they managed to pull of a miracle I personally don't know why you would rate any new anime at all until the season is finished. Looking back on all the anime I watched for the first time after they were already completed five, 10, 15, 20 years or more after they finished airing, it seems like it would have been pointless and invalid to attempt to rate them a quarter or midway through the story. |
WatchTillTandavaSep 3, 2020 7:28 PM
| Same answer as with every new anime season. It happens frequently, because most people just rate it, either when they drop it and don't continue (so they rate it low because they didn't like it) and the majority of people that DO like the show, stick around until it finishes and then rate it. Thus the rating goes up over the time of airing and when it finishes (a couple weeks after) you can finally see a bit of what the real average rating is. Just a tip. Don't use MAL ratings too much to find out if you should watch something of the current season (at least not during or right after the time shows air). If you would like to know what you should watch, I recommend to watch some anime youtubers. It largely depends on your taste which one you might want to take recommendations from and if you know how to test their tastes against your own. But I say, if you are curious, try some of this list to find out: - Gigguk & The Anime Man for some overall good takes. - Arkada (Glass Reflection), if you are into Slice of Life, Comedy and some hidden gems from past times. - Anime Uproar for Shounen and Action (most of the time). - Mother's Basement & Chibi Reviews (depending on who you ask, but they have their place for sure). TL;DR Do not blindly rely on MAL scores. They vary in accuracy throughout the season of airing. |
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| I have no idea, it should at least be a 7.7 a whole 0.5 points higher, 7.2 is a serious downplay on the quality of the show. |
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| omfg the score isn't low can fans of x anime stop complaining when there favorite anime isn't over all score of 10 with a global population of 6 billion people. seriously it's my biggest pet peeve on this sight. also the show hasn't ended yet so i am not moving my score till i am sure the anime wont pull a Gainax ending. |
GrimAtramentSep 19, 2020 10:17 AM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
WatchTillTandava said: spectrojan said: People are hesitant to rate new shows higher as compared to sequels of shows they already love. For example, after Deca-Dence's first two episodes, most people rated it 6 or 7 or 8 which is reasonable because not a lot happened and why would you rate any new anime a 10 based on the first two episodes unless they managed to pull of a miracle I personally don't know why you would rate any new anime at all until the season is finished. Looking back on all the anime I watched for the first time after they were already completed five, 10, 15, 20 years or more after they finished airing, it seems like it would have been pointless and invalid to attempt to rate them a quarter or midway through the story. Well it's simple. While the score is something that should take entirety of a show into account, a show is never instantaneous. Why would it be incorrect to evaluate your engagement with the piece up until some point. It's not a definite unchangable decision. Just a record of some thought and feelings. |
| From what I've heard, it was first the AoT fans getting peeved because air combat obviously belongs to AoT only. Then with episode 2, people got turned off by how weird it got. People say that they like plot twists, but I guess when a plot twist is too big, some people just get weirded out. Also I've noticed that people give shows really unreasonable scores on here, so I guess its to be expected. I personally was really excited because it seemed really unique, and I already love Sanrio-esque mascot characters so I wasn't too put off by the android designs. |
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| It was just a victim of haters like Uzaki chan |
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| Half of the people who hate this are just mad over the twist and the other half are dumb Attack on Titan fanboys who are mad because supposedly this series is a AoT clone. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
| Maybe because it's bad? Although bad anime often get rated extremely highly so maybe that's not it. It probably just haven't attracted enough of the shounen crowd that overrates everything. |
| Honestly. i think it has the most interesting plot of the season. hands down. I hope it will go up once it finishes and more ppl rate it. I'm invested. haha |
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| It's mostly because of the twist. It throws most people for a loop since the show, intentionally or unintentionally, primes you to expect a more standard plot and concept. I've actually been meaning to get around to resuming it. Fatephile said: It was just a victim of haters like Uzaki chan Uzaki-chan is legitimately bad though lmao. So much so that I actually took time out of my night to write a review(rant) for a SoL. |
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| Sure it has an interesting plot, but the story pacing is pretty flimsy. I think the problems lies in it being only 12 episodes, instead of a full season of 24 episodes. I wish to see more Natsume, but because of the production cut, it feels like she isn't the main character most of the time. |
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vansonbee said: Sure it has an interesting plot, but the story pacing is pretty flimsy. I think the problems lies in it being only 12 episodes, instead of a full season of 24 episodes. I wish to see more Natsume, but because of the production cut, it feels like she isn't the main character most of the time. what are you even talking about one episode of deca dence has more plot/development than an entire SAO season this show has a really good pace, is very unique, doesnt copy anything from other stories and anime and is being artistically designed to very high standards. This is almost as good as youjo senki, from the same studio. |
| wait for the final episode and see if the score improves |
ame-furi said: This is why you shouldn't take MAL scores seriously. The score dropped drastically after episode 2, because some people didn't like the plot twist and the different artstyle. It's not a typical shounen, isekai with self-insert protagonist surrounded by hot waifus or some moe garbage, so it's only natural that the score is so low. But I think it will go up by the end of the show. Many people probably were like that, but in my case it was something different. I dropped this show after episode 2 because from a cool and fresh post-apo anime it turned to be some kind of a hybrid between isekai and post-apo. That was unexpected indeed, but for me it ruined the mood. I really wanted to give it a second chance, but even though it is not a classic isekai, I simply didn't like a theme of cute avatars of robots playing a game that was in fact taking place in the real world (which was treated as a playground for robots and Artificial Intelligence as a whole). It's cool that this anime has its own idea on how its world and setting in general should work like. As I said before, it was really refreshing. The thing is... I personally disliked the way that plot-twist was presented and how all the circumstances were shown to the audience. It made me stop being interesting in this series to a point of simply dropping it and not regretting that I did not continue watching it. |
Adnash93 said: ame-furi said: This is why you shouldn't take MAL scores seriously. The score dropped drastically after episode 2, because some people didn't like the plot twist and the different artstyle. It's not a typical shounen, isekai with self-insert protagonist surrounded by hot waifus or some moe garbage, so it's only natural that the score is so low. But I think it will go up by the end of the show. Many people probably were like that, but in my case it was something different. I dropped this show after episode 2 because from a cool and fresh post-apo anime it turned to be some kind of a hybrid between isekai and post-apo. That was unexpected indeed, but for me it ruined the mood. I really wanted to give it a second chance, but even though it is not a classic isekai, I simply didn't like a theme of cute avatars of robots playing a game that was in fact taking place in the real world (which was treated as a playground for robots and Artificial Intelligence as a whole). It's cool that this anime has its own idea on how its world and setting in general should work like. As I said before, it was really refreshing. The thing is... I personally disliked the way that plot-twist was presented and how all the circumstances were shown to the audience. It made me stop being interesting in this series to a point of simply dropping it and not regretting that I did not continue watching it. Well, personally I'm very glad it's not just a simple post-apo shounen or whatever and they were brave enough to do something else with this anime, and it works in the long run in my opinion. Whether they executed the plot twist badly or not is just someone's subjective opinion, some people didn't like it because it was too weird and different, others appreciated it... because it was weird and different? Lol. I'm almost 100% sure that if it was a post-apo show, it still would have its own bunch of haters claiming that it's just a "SnK ripoff" or something and they would still hate it no matter what (there were already plenty of people complaining about it since episode 1). But it's okay, I understand that some people had different expectations and it simply turned out that they're not the target audience of the show. It's not like everyone has an obligation to like it. Kudos to you that you wanted to give it a second chance. |
Qrow_Branwen42 said: Nuba said: what are you even talking about one episode of deca dence has more plot/development than an entire SAO season this show has a really good pace, is very unique, doesnt copy anything from other stories and anime and is being artistically designed to very high standards. This is almost as good as youjo senki, from the same studio. That's honestly my main problem. The pacing is TOO fast. I realize that this might just be me but I would personally prefer if the show took time to slow down and maybe show more of the side characters and their interactions. For me, the characters are usually the most important thing for any story and right know aside from the main duo, I really don't have much reason to care about any of the side characters (maybe with the exeption of Jill). I mean don't give me wrong, I'm still enjoying the show immensely (the last few episodes were especially great but I agree that the show could use one or two more episodes Glad to hear you do enjoy despite the pacing issues but I will have to agree with one of the earlier responses, the pacing issue can easily be resolved if we had more episodes to dedicate into worldbuilding and character relations. I always felt that the story and the stage set for it had always been wider than what we're given -- and I wanted to know more of it too. I want to give a thumbs up still to the staff who did what they could within 12 episodes, though. There aren't that many plot holes unlike when you watch anything longer than 12 episodes and it still has glaring abyssal holes in it that's never addressed. |
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| well its improving right? its 7.48 at the moment and the last time i checked it was at 7.18 or something score progression Week 01 - 7.35 Week 02 - 7.08 (-0.27) Week 03 - 7.06 (-0.02) Week 04 - 7.06 Week 05 - 7.08 (+0.02) Week 06 - 7.11 (+0.03) Week 07 - 7.14 (+0.03) Week 08 - 7.16 (+0.02) Week 09 - 7.19 (+0.03) Week 10 - 7.22 (+0.03) Week 11 - 7.23 (+0.01) source https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1849686 |
| its at 7.48 currently, the score has been slowly rising with each episode |
| Because people hate creativity and just want more formulaic shit they've seen a million times and otaku pandering I guess. That being said I always take MAL ratings with a big pinch of salt anyway because.. well.. have you seen most of the people on this site? 'nuff said. |
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| I think that the score is fine. I personally found it to be average and rated it a 7, but I can see some people rating it an 8 or a 9 because it is pretty original and entertaining. Saying that, I can see the score being somewhere between 7 and 8, but I definitely cannot see it anywhere above that. Good by seasonal standards, but just ok when compared to other anime. |
| you people do not know what low score means, i usually watch 3DCG and mecha anime so this is normal imo |
| Definitely rising now. It was around .20-.40 before the episode discussion went up here, and now it's at .50. I'm definitely not expecting it to hit up to 9. Who am I kidding? But edging next to the 8's even just for a month would be a wonderful treat. |
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| Honestly, I think it's because this anime didn't manage to find the right audience. I don't know if it's because of the marketing or what, but those looking for a simple AOT ripoff got annoyed by the plot twist and those who loved the plot twist got disappointed by the fact that it wasn't as revolutionary as it set itself out to be. Me? I loved it. Never expected it to be super deep political commentary or anything. In a sense, it's kinda like a reverse Franxx in more ways than one. Namely, Franxx tried to be a super "LOOK AT ME! MY COMMENTARY!" with a super convoluted plot and failed on every other aspect. It was a simple shonen show that was able to set itself apart from the rest by having a unique premise while nailing the worldbuilding, characters and plot. |
ame-furi said: This is why you shouldn't take MAL scores seriously. The score dropped drastically after episode 2, because some people didn't like the plot twist and the different artstyle. It's not a typical shounen, isekai with self-insert protagonist surrounded by hot waifus or some moe garbage, so it's only natural that the score is so low. But I think it will go up by the end of the show. This pretty much. The show was excellent, some people were just not willing to continue after the curveball. Great anime. |
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| Is it me or the score rating has an abnormal boost? After 2 days of airing of Episode 11, its still just 7.23 same rating after Episode 10. Then just before the airing of Episode 12, the score has rise up to 7.42. And now after almost 2 days of Final Ep, its now 7.56. Thats a huge boost in score. Ive been following the score because i find decadence underrated and im glad after episode 2 (7.04/10) it became 7.23 at Episode 11. |
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Iroha_Pixie said: Is it me or the score rating has an abnormal boost? After 2 days of airing of Episode 11, its still just 7.23 same rating after Episode 10. Then just before the airing of Episode 12, the score has rise up to 7.42. And now after almost 2 days of Final Ep, its now 7.56. Thats a huge boost in score. I think it's because many people don't rate a show until it ends. I was kinda expecting for the score to go up a bit after episode 12 tbh I didn't thought it will go that high, but I'm glad it did |
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| 7.56 is a really good Score!! I gave it an 8/10 |
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Dariat said: Iroha_Pixie said: Is it me or the score rating has an abnormal boost? After 2 days of airing of Episode 11, its still just 7.23 same rating after Episode 10. Then just before the airing of Episode 12, the score has rise up to 7.42. And now after almost 2 days of Final Ep, its now 7.56. Thats a huge boost in score. I think it's because many people don't rate a show until it ends. I was kinda expecting for the score to go up a bit after episode 12 tbh I didn't thought it will go that high, but I'm glad it did I mean before the airing of final episode. Just 1-2 days before episode 12 is aired, the score jump from 7.23 to 7.42. I understand the current score, from 7.42 to 7.56 after episode 12. But not the sudden change just days before it. Anyway, i think there no use pandering about it. Im glad its rising. |
Iroha_PixieSep 25, 2020 9:46 AM
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| This is one of those shows that must be binged to enjoy fully. Just watched it yesterday and in all honesty I think it's one the the best original anime in recent years. It's kind of an oddball but also very relatable in so many ways. |
| maybe because of the spongeb0b animation thingy |
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| Well, even the original score that OP is pointing out (7.18) was really good. Anything above a 7 is a good score. But hey, now it's rising! |
| The low score is problably from the people that do not understand the grasp of this anime. Or simply people that can't fathom the idea of humans being part of a "play" thing. They obviously didn't see the entire story throught to understand the deep meaning of this store. IMO it's a beautiful story. Great anime. One of those "Dont judge a book by its cover" type of stories. |
| For an Original anime this was really good, damn even anime with sources didnt hold a candle to this... this was a nice surprise for sure. |
| Thread locked for not encouraging discussion. Threads about ranking and/or scores just encourage flame wars between people who liked the show and people who disliked it. They don't promote any kind of actual discussion. You may also use this thread if you want to talk about overrated/underrated anime. |
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