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| Aw, Utsu-tsu wants to heal people. Aaaaand everyone knows Hajime is a Gatchaman. Hajime and Utsu-tsu keep getting cuter. (^_^) Rui wants the entire human race to be superheroes. Good luck with that. Hajime seems to have a reason behind everything. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| Another awesome episode with Hajime in it~! She's soo awesome~! |
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| lol, Gatchaman is a hindrance because people will come to rely on that power, but aren't people relying on GALAX just as much? Show's logic is fucked :| |
 "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" |
| So no one but me seriously ships Hajime and Sugane? Well okay. |
"Komugi, are you there?" |
| Utsutsu super-cute confirmed. I'm glad Hajime refused to Rui, I totally expected her to to accept it, with her random attitude. |
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| I love how subtly Hajime pointed out the irony in Rui's statement of the world having no need for heroes by mentioning CROWDS. Hajime is actually really smarter than she looks. |
| Powerful eyebrows. |
| So Hajime isn't as clueless as I thought she was. She has a reason for what she does. That's good. What is that cross dresser really want. I feel like he is still hiding something. Good episode. |
| I would have trouble dealing with people like Hajime in real life. Rui is a hypocrite, she uses the CROWDS and she was given power by that other alien. |
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| AH! holy shit. Ive been wondering if Rui was a guy or a girl. I was expecting him to be a crossdresser. |
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| Load's logic is, "We can't rely on people with superpowers, because the general public will depend on them and become stagnant." Well I don't know about you load, but to me it seems you're going directly against your own ideals by using the blue frog looking things. Can't tell if it is a character flaw, or the author completely forgot. |
GokuDec 29, 2015 1:27 PM
JusticeSoulTuna said: +1 pretty much summed up the issues I have with her. She be like "I do whatever I want yet I am still in the right", and that's annoying. I can't wait for something to actually prove her wrong for once, and change the way she does things. I thought she was pretty unique as a character at first, but as time passes I see that she's just a loudmouth, except not as dumb as she looks.FlareKnight said: Rui does have a point but ignores the flaws in his own system. People may stop relying on heroes to save them, but they are just transferring that reliance to Galax to tell them what to do. Can update the world or whatever but if you turn Galax off suddenly people will go right back to doing what they did before. A system that can be abused for good or bad is hardly an ideal world to be aiming for. No everyone is perfect like Hajime; able to use the system without being controlled by it. Oddly enough this episode is kind of where I'm getting slightly tired of Hajime's perfection. Every decision is perfect, with logical reasoning and never goes wrong. Reveals herself...just because she needed to do it right then. Far more interested in Jou hunting down Berg than Hajime seeing through everything perfectly. At least can hope Jou actually finds this guy and this series with heroes can actually have a fight or two in it. Exactly. You pinpointed my biggest problem with her; she's too perfect. Too happy go lucky, pretty moe and 'I know everything and all my decisions are correct and judgements are sound', which is usually the type of character that bothers me the most especially when they're not well balanced. A lot of people in the forum did however point out that's she's smart sure but she's not some omniscient being who's infallible. Yet the lack of ANY kind of context, reasoning or back story to her actions makes her perfect attitude very suffocating. See, I don't hate her and she doesn't annoy me as much as she could. But for a main character I could care less about her. Rui interests me INFINITELY more, cross dressing and all. Rui's got the right idea but relies too heavily on his idealism and doesn't see the bigger picture, cause he puts too much faith in human altruism. I get that Hajime believes that Gatchaman are needed to protect people and she did mention that 'you can't always trust the internet blindly' (yet another perfect bit of foreshadowing from her...) but it's also kinda bs since to this episode she's pretty much done NOTHING Gatchaman-like at all. I dunno, everyone on the forums seems to love her unconditionally and that's fine. But hey, don't expect me to drink the kool aid :p |
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ToG25thBaam said: +1 pretty much summed up the issues I have with her. She be like "I do whatever I want yet I am still in the right", and that's annoying. I can't wait for something to actually prove her wrong for once, and change the way she does things. I thought she was pretty unique as a character at first, but as time passes I see that she's just a loudmouth, except not as dumb as she looks. Mhm. I won't spoil anything, but that's pretty much her character. It's frustrating, cause her design is charming and it's nice that she's not an airhead. But she's the opposite extreme entirely |
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Goku said: Load's logic is, "We can't rely on people with superpowers, because the general public will depend on them and become stagnant." Well I don't know about you load, but to me it seems you're going directly against your own ideals by using the blue frog looking things. Can't tell if it is a character flaw, or the author completely forgot. The author certainly didn't forget about it. That's the whole point of Hajime mentioning the Crowds during that conversation, and later remarking that she'd be prettier without "make up". That wasn't supposed to mean she could see Rui was a crossdresser. Rather, Hajime was talking about the figurative "make up" that is Rui's lies (to others and to herself). So, half of it is a character flaw (a bit of a hypocrisy and a lie to herself), but do keep in mind that one of the reasons Rui was reluctant to use the CROWDS before was due to this idealism of hers (people shouldn't rely on a superior power to save them every time). JusticeSoulTuna said: ToG25thBaam said: +1 pretty much summed up the issues I have with her. She be like "I do whatever I want yet I am still in the right", and that's annoying. I can't wait for something to actually prove her wrong for once, and change the way she does things. I thought she was pretty unique as a character at first, but as time passes I see that she's just a loudmouth, except not as dumb as she looks. Mhm. I won't spoil anything, but that's pretty much her character. It's frustrating, cause her design is charming and it's nice that she's not an airhead. But she's the opposite extreme entirely It's not that she simply is always right. Hajime's strenght is that she actually thinks and considers before coming to conclusions and acting. That, in turn, leads to her being right most of the times, but not out of nowhere. By taking her time to actually ask questions and think for her self, she comes to conclusions that are more often right than those of the other heroes. This becomes specially noticeable when compared to the way some of the other characters work in the beginning of the series: Rui is too blinded by her idealism. Sugane follows rules and commands without questioning. Joe has a hero complex and tries to end problems before giving them to much thought. Paiman is too scared to make decisions of his own. It doesn't mean she's perfect, though. As someone has already mentioned in this thread, her communication skills are lacking. So even if she is able to figure things out, her teammates aren't always able to follow her explanations. This can easily lead to complications, specially in situations where quick understanding of what is being said is needed. Another problem this method brings is that she can't always respond to everything that happens as soon as possible. She stops and think about it first. For better or for worse, characters like Sugane and Joe are able to act much quicker. I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible, but here are some general things that can be seen in future episodes/seasons: |
TulicloureFeb 4, 2016 11:12 PM
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Tulicloure said: It's not that she simply is always right. Hajime's strenght is that she actually thinks and considers before coming to conclusions and acting. That, in turn, leads to her being right most of the times, but not out of nowhere. By taking her time to actually ask questions and think for her self, she comes to conclusions that are more often right than those of the other heroes. This becomes specially noticeable when compared to the way some of the other characters work in the beginning of the series: Rui is too blinded by her idealism. Sugane follows rules and commands without questioning. Joe has a hero complex and tries to end problems before giving them to much thought. Paiman is too scared to make decisions of his own. It doesn't mean she's perfect, though. As someone has already mentioned in this thread, her communication skills are lacking. So even if she is able to figure things out, her teammates aren't always able to follow her explanations. This can easily lead to complications, specially in situations where quick understanding of what is being said is needed. Another problem this method brings is that she can't always respond to everything that happens as soon as possible. She stops and think about it first. For better or for worse, characters like Sugane and Joe are able to act much quicker. I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as possible, but here are some general things that can be seen in future episodes/seasons: That's a fair way of looking at it, and a good analysis overall. My issue isn't that I can't see it that way, my issue is that to even feel comfortable with her character, I have to do that extrapolation in the first place. Personally, i've reached a point in entertainment where if a character's being isn't apparent or fully fleshed out within how the character is conveyed on screen, then having to justify them in my mind only makes me feel sour. Cause I want to like characters as they are, but that's hard to do when they're so unrelatable. I appreciate your perspective, because it does shed light on her (especially in the second season, which I refused to watch mainly cause I didn't like her). However when I like characters, I like appreciating them at surface level first, seeing their depth within the anime, and then digging deeper afterwards. But the lack of any visible consequence for Hajime was frustrating to the point of apathy, and no justifications would do it for me, sadly. |
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JusticeSoulTuna said: That's a fair way of looking at it, and a good analysis overall. My issue isn't that I can't see it that way, my issue is that to even feel comfortable with her character, I have to do that extrapolation in the first place. Personally, i've reached a point in entertainment where if a character's being isn't apparent or fully fleshed out within how the character is conveyed on screen, then having to justify them in my mind only makes me feel sour. Cause I want to like characters as they are, but that's hard to do when they're so unrelatable. I appreciate your perspective, because it does shed light on her (especially in the second season, which I refused to watch mainly cause I didn't like her). However when I like characters, I like appreciating them at surface level first, seeing their depth within the anime, and then digging deeper afterwards. But the lack of any visible consequence for Hajime was frustrating to the point of apathy, and no justifications would do it for me, sadly. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Personally, I've never really felt the need for Hajime to have some big character flaws (even if I ended up believing she does, like I've said), mainly because I just thought she was SO FUN to watch, but I can totally see why that's not the case for everyone. It would be interesting to see clearly bad consequences of her flaws, though. |
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| Damn, Hajime was really annoying this episode... was marathoning pretty fine but this finally pushed me to drop the show. I'll probably try again another time in hopes that something happens that will prove her wrong and knock her down a peg. |
IceOfDarknessDec 25, 2016 6:18 PM
| Hajime is more perceptive than she lets on. I like her unconventional approach to things. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| The amount of unearned character moments in this show is unbelievable. It's almost impressive how obnoxious everyone in the cast is. I actually think the concept is very interesting, but damn it's hard to get through an episode. |
syncrogazerOct 2, 2019 7:14 PM
migohunter said: I love how subtly Hajime pointed out the irony in Rui's statement of the world having no need for heroes by mentioning CROWDS. Hajime is actually really smarter than she looks. The classic dumb buyt smart girl character |
| I am wondering why Sugane never seems to make a real augment. His reasoning is "just because" rather then giving an actual reason. They weren't fighting the MESS because they are Gatchaman, they are fighting the MESS because they go around absorbing people. When they stopped doing that they stopped fighting them. There is also the argument for the Gatchaman that GALAX could never replace. Family the fact that Rui doesn't actually seem to have any idea what's going on or what the Gatchaman's job is. They aren't going to help with random people falling down the stairs or getting hit by a car, at least not using their powers anyway. They use their powers to fight alien threats and the tunnel was a bit outside of their purview. However at no point did anyone bother to explain that to him. Granted Rui left as soon as the argument wasn't going is way. I am wondering why Rui hates superheroes so much. That seems to be clouding his judgment. Meanwhile Barg keeps pushing his buttons and causing havoc. He might not even want Rui to use his powers, but keeps telling him to as a form of reverse psychology. I know he gave them to him, but that could be to motivate him into doing something else. There is also the fact that, Hajime's latest actions notwithstanding, the Gatchaman have always operated in the shadows and were effectively an urban legend. It's kind of hard to become dependent on something if you aren't even sure it exists. In that regard GALAX is more of a threat to humanity's development then the Gatchaman. |
| So Hajime can take her Gatchaman costume off partially by using Amnesia Remind, huh? That Utsutsu's short smile with a tongue sticking out...She even laughed! And damn, Hajime's voice acting is simply exceptional Funny how Hajime seemed to uncover Rui's identity instantly (?). Well, that's what I got from her using the "-kun" honorific. Anyway, she's pretty good at seeing through people. Also, Joe offered Utsutsu to use his life for saving people...did he give her some of his life energy or something? I guess so. The way Paiman refused to take responsibility instead of relying on JJ...lol. His reactions and the way of running are hilarious Rui's "perfect world" sounds communistic. |
St0rmbladeSep 30, 2020 2:39 PM
| Hajime is so annoying. I was thinking the exact same thing when Sugane wondered why she's so intent on breaking the rules. The obvious implication of exposing her identity like that is her being abducted by the govt to some secret lab for experimentation. But I guess she's just gonna continue her life as normal? We shall see, I'm only 5 minutes into the episode. I picked up vibes from Sugane in earlier episodes but I am now convinced he is 100% tsundere. Rui's utopia is sounding more and more like Communism. Hajime's fierce determination to break rules and do things her way are basically the complete opposite of Rui's ideals. Maybe I am reading too much into it and this is actually a very shallow simplistic story with no particular theme or message at it's core. |
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