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Bastiono said: deg said: ye man the science fiction stuff on the award winning movie Gravity for example is scientifically accurate /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_(2013_film)#Scientific_accuracy lol if you think all science fiction is scientifically accurate Yes, Dilithium Crystals are scientific too As is whatever technobabble comprised Data's neutral net There's a difference between sci-fi and science. Sci-fi takes scientific concepts and stretches them, modifying DNA is beyond sci-fi that BNA started with, it's pure fiction im not sure what you are saying here genome/gene editing is so common in science like hello super hero movies from Marvel for example and we got CRISPR genome/gene editing in real life that is heavily in development and research right now but if that is just your way of still claiming that all science fiction is scientifically accurate then i give up and this will be my last reply to you on that |
Bastiono said: deg said: im not sure what you are saying here genome/gene editing is so common in science like hello super hero movies from Marvel for example and we got CRISPR genome/gene editing in real life that is heavily in development and research right now but if that is just your way of still claiming that all science fiction is scientifically accurate then i give up and this will be my last reply to you on that .. Yes, superhero comics are sci-fi, not fantasy. Radiation causes things to become huge, The Hulk, Godzilla and Sandman, or changes DNA, Spiderman BNA claims to change DNA permanently, which, at the least won't be instant by injection, which is what's shown Would you please stop trying to make me sound stupid. I have never said that sci-fi is scientifically accurate, it's scientifically based, which is very different hilarious whats your point of pointing that DNA is scientifically based then? to criticize its scientific accuracy here right? derp |
| Wow, a typical Trigger letdown - first episode was easily a 8,5/10 for me and got me hooked. Then the show got gradually worse in basically every aspect. The plot, pacing, writing and even animation went downhill fast and I can't rate the last episode for more than 5/10 although it might be even generous. Clearly some budget issues and a Netflix syndrome was felt here. I had a Darling in the Franxx deja vu - that show also started great and ended as pure garbage. It's a little sad, because the studio has really fun ideas and are not afraid to do weird creative things, but they somehow can't deliver and keep the show interesting to the very end. |
| Good that I wasn't hyped at all so I wasn't disappointed. Nothing special and kinda plot fell flat. Alexissimo said: Worst Trigger show by far, wtf was the point of Michiru being the protagonist? Still better than that haremshit LN adaptation with superpowers. What's wrong with her? Nazuna wasn't better. Nurguburu said: Trigger went downhill after 2017 with shows like Darling in the FranXXX, SSSS.Gridman and BNA (I need to watch Promare). I hope that Trigger can produce amazing shows like old times in the following years because it has everything to do that except good writers Trigger had no creative control over DitF. It was Nishigori and Akai's show. Gridman was good. I also didn't watch Promare yet and from I heard about it being fujotrash and yaoibait, it has no priority over other last year anime movies on my ptw list. |
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bastek66 said: Good that I wasn't hyped at all so I wasn't disappointed. Nothing special and kinda plot fell flat. Alexissimo said: Worst Trigger show by far, wtf was the point of Michiru being the protagonist? Still better than that haremshit LN adaptation with superpowers. What's wrong with her? Nazuna wasn't better. Nurguburu said: Trigger went downhill after 2017 with shows like Darling in the FranXXX, SSSS.Gridman and BNA (I need to watch Promare). I hope that Trigger can produce amazing shows like old times in the following years because it has everything to do that except good writers Trigger had no creative control over DitF. It was Nishigori and Akai's show. Gridman was good. I also didn't watch Promare yet and from I heard about it being fujotrash and yaoibait, it has no priority over other last year anime movies on my ptw list. I watched promare, but If there was fujobait, it wasnt that noticieable. Or maybe Im turning inmune against that sh*t. Anyway, you are watching promare for the spectacle and the conspiracy stuff done in a trigger way. And, while the later turned meh, Promare at the end probably did a better job than BNA. |
MichaelJacksonMay 16, 2020 5:52 AM
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Bastiono said: deg said: hilarious whats your point of pointing that DNA is scientifically based then? to criticize its scientific accuracy here right? derp When you get back to reading the discussion, you might have a point DNA: science Altering DNA: fantasy altering DNA is possible even in real life dude i already give you an example of CRISPR genome/gene editing |
| I swear I started hearing Phantom of the Opera at some point. Anyway, while there were some oddities in the writing, I did actually enjoy BNA a lot! The characters had some life to them, liked their designs, and I thought moved along okay. A fun watch. |
| It was alright. I had good times with it but it should've been more than 12 episodes and I'm pretty sure ill forget about it pretty quickly. 6/10 |
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Another fine addition to the collection. I think it could've been alright as a 24 episode series to give more breathing room to the events (or have a second arc) or to have had an epilogue episode (although that's sorta what we got at the end), but I think it's good on its own too and I really don't need every question answered. I think if it were to have done a two-cour series, the way it would've worked best imo is doing something like LWA, Moribito or Ghost in the Shell: SAC where they have episodic episodes surrounding a larger story, but I got a new yuri ship so I'm good with it, 8/10. |
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| In the beginning it seemed somewhat interesting, still wasn't sure how much I liked it but intriging enough to keep me watching. But then like many have said it got rushed. But aside from the rush job, I was already starting to dislike it because Michiru annoyed me so much. And of course in true anime fashion, her baseless, first judgment, lack of an intuitive thought process........all her quick judgments ended up being correct in the end. What a shock Things could have been flushed out more but people asking for more episodes.....I don't know if I could deal sitting through 24 episodes of this, 12 alone was a struggle (really the only character I liked was the crow....oh and Jackie). The OP/ED were good but this was a 6.5-6.9 anime and I can't in good faith round this up to a 7. 6/10 |
| This shit was so entertaining and the climax was very trigger like. |
| Okay, as expected they went with the "bombastic finale" route. Not that they could have done something different considering how superficial the overall plot ended up being. Basically, just forget all the potential political and social sub-plots established in the first few episodes and let's have purebred beast-man Alan (what?) and Shirou blasting beams at each other... something like that was this finale, more or less. As for the episode, it was rushed as hell featuring some moments of quick exposition to finally conclude the idea surrounding Alan's character as well as his true motivations... which only ended up making him look like another one-dimensional villain. Such a shame considering how "grayish" the vibes he was giving at the beginning were but well. Honestly, this anime had so much potential but ended up leaving a lot to be desired. Lots of plot points were left unanswered because the studio/writers didn't know how to handle the pacing, most of the characters were extremely uninteresting with Michiru being awfully exasperating as MC due to the little-to-no development she received and the whole "hey, the cure/antidote was always in Michiru's blood" outcome couldn't have been more anticlimactic. The only redeemable aspects I can name were the OST and the general aesthetics, which were fantastic but other than that, everything else about this series was plain average and forgettable. 5/10 - Goes directly to my "man, it could have been so good if it were 24 eps. long" list. |
SouthRzVaMay 20, 2020 9:20 PM
| Alan reminds me of kray from promare, thats all |
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| I thought the ending was super rushed, I really think the series could have done with a couple more episodes. I would still recommend it as it was a fun popcorn style anime, not much to look at plot wise, but fun fight scenes and memorable characters. |
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| I really loved this anime; it was visually stunning, the soundtrack is fire, the plot was really fun but also thrilling in the right places and I loved most of the characters. I didn't really like Michiru but I'm hoping that if there are more seasons, she'll develop. This anime has a lot more to give so I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed for another season! Season 2! Season 2! Season 2! |
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| Episode that sees all the Studio Trigger battle horses lined up. The narration despite having a fairly obvious trend, in which all the characters so far seen in the anime series lend a hand to create a chain of aid designed to defeat the enemy, an evolutionary element of the plot used over and over in the past, ultimately brings a cognitive legacy that despite having already been given by many other animated works, for "erga omnes", however, messages remain that must still permeate the "res publica" well, because concepts such as the acceptance of one's appearance or being , are fundamental for the growth of the individual, or the inclusion of the different for a solid and peaceful growth of society, just to name a few. All that has been said must not be erroneously accepted passively, and considered pleonatically by the spectators. Because it would result in a failure and not a crowning of the anime series which has also shown to always have a positive setting, despite the dramatic and bloody moments, thanks to the comedy that has remained like a background noise all the time. Excellent drawings and animations. Little mole of this anime series, it's being so short; I wish it lasted at least twice, oh well! Even this time Trigger did not disappoint, after LWA, my expectations, although it didn't attract me as much as it did with Little Witch Academia, well! This is a matter of taste. My vote is 8/10 |
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| One of the most Trigger shows to date, which is both a good thing and bad thing. Mostly a bad thing. |
| Fairly entertaining first half followed by a mess in the second, in a nutshell. In other words, a lot of lost potential gone begging and leaving a lot to be desired in the process. Should've seriously been a 2-cour show instead or at least 16-18 episodes to address a few of the plot points more earnestly. Poor villains has been a trend lately and I don't mind that too much in all honesty. But, for some reason, it irked me a bit here. Maybe it's because of the out-of-place backstory we were fed with out of the blue, I'm not even sure myself to be honest. Michiru and Nazuna's relationship was another irksome factor for me, especially towards the middle of the latter half. It kind of felt "too easy" and, as such, off. Got to say, there were some cool moments between the two this episode though. Politics bit being completely thrown out of the window was within expectation so I wasn't particularly bothered by this, by the way. But it certainly signed off on a weak note, even then. One department in which this show absolutely rocked was unsurprisingly in its aesthetics and sound department. It's Trigger so you know this department is in good hands in the first place. Color effects and the usual Kanada School styles are just a pleasure to view any time and this instance is no different. Overall, I think I'm going to settle with a harsh but solid 6/10 here. Maybe I'm being a little harsh here but I really feel like the pay-off from this show was a little low despite being Trigger-esque. Somehow, I felt like the intensity from usual was off, perhaps due to the clumsy buildup. |
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| I have a somewhat mixed opinion about this series. On the one hand, I thought this was a relatively convincing plot progression, with bits of truth and untruth uncovered as you would expect as each side carries its own motivations. I found Michiru and Shirou both likable and understandable in their own ways, and I also think they managed to sketch out their internal struggles and idiosyncrasies pretty well. The animation was also pretty well done and I enjoyed both the OP and ED a lot. On the other hand, I guess I was disappointed that this series took the sort of easy way out with Alan just being a total baddie. It could have delved into a bunch of interesting questions/themes like what the implications of full equality are (teased in the Pinga episode) and what it means to be a beastman/human when medicine could readily change someone from one to another. It also could've delivered a really interesting struggle if Alan was a genuine character--faced between the choice of likely witnessing beastmen kill each other off and having beastmen relinquishing what gives them their identity, what would/should Shirou ultimately do? Here Shirou was kind of bailed out of this question, but a final battle between Michiru and Shirou to resolve it would've elevated this series a lot, in my opinion. Entertaining while it lasted, but kind of an unfulfilled promise at the end of the day. Wish they planned for a 2-cour instead since the core idea itself has a lot of potential. |
| I liked the first half more. Then the outcome and villain reasons in the second half werent all that special. It turned out to be fine. It didn't give me that special feeling. I expected more though it wasnt bad. I really thought they would focus more Nazuna and Michiru relationship, but it didn't happen (maybe it was just my yurish side wanting that to happen), though we had a few moments of them together. This is one of those animes that despite the closed ending a second season would be welcome because it has room for more. 1st half 8/10 2nd half 6/10 7/10. |
Vi-Jun 2, 2020 9:37 PM
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| It’s not that bad but I was expecting something better, the premises were good. |
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| @laiskvorst well at least you agree that this show is soft science fiction and you are aware that soft science fiction exist unlike that user i was arguing with lol and ye BNA is like a pun to DNA i bet |
| Not bad and I can say that Trigger really made another nice anime even with this kind of concept that isn't liked by everyone. Still they made it very lovely and as usual with a great and epic ending! All in all a fun watch! |
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| I love Trigger shows. But I was rather disappointed by the ending. Not as much as most people, but it was not as satisfying as it could have been. Firstly, I never expected this to explore sociopolitical issues. We have Beastars (and Zootopia) for that. What disappointed me was some of the writing choices and how they decided to end it. Putting the whole convenience of Michiru and Nazuna's blood being a cure for the syndrome, Trigger really has a thing for sudden twist endings where the true villain appears. But especially with this show, none of it was built up or foreshadowed properly. Honestly, having Alan being a Beast Man who managed to figure out the ritual was rather meh. Seriously, it's pointless for Alan to have that immortality if he isn't actually that old to begin with. Even if we go with Alan being a Beast Man, I really thought that he would have been shot by his own medicine as a rather poetic end. Like, he's not giving other Beast Men the choice to turn into humans, now he's at the receiving end. Kinda exactly like with the 3rd X-Men movie. Why not have Alan be the original general who somehow received his powers along side Shirou? Shirou could still have retained all his characterization and motivation even if he thought the general was dead all along. Having realized the general was still alive would have resulted in a far more poignant and impactful rage moment. Also, come to think of it, why did Shirou get the power and not any of the other dead Beast Men who were in that pool of blood? Seeing that they were all bathed in each other's blood, shouldn't all of them have gained Wolf God powers? Speaking of a cure, why on Earth is Michiru still waiting for one when the cure was already loaded into the drones? That didn't make sense. It kinda sucks that we never got a resolution to Michiru's relationship with her parents either. They were nice enough to make her a birthday cake and... they just left that unresolved. Last but not least, there were way, way to many false trails and leads for the sake of drama at the expense of characterization. Like, there really was absolutely zero reason for Nazuna and Alan to hide the truth from Michiru. Nazuna, knowing Michiru's personality, should have just told her the truth (or at least tried to convince Alan to allow her to do so) as Michiru was already in the search of a cure anyway and wouldn't stop until she knew what was going on. Having her be chastised for her impulsiveness and self-righteousness was great, but to have her be right at the end regardless made Michiru and Nazuna's conflict rather pointless, doing a disservice to both their characterizations. Why not have Nazuna not believe Michiru about the human reveal thing only to have Nazuna realize that Michiru was right all along? Sure, that would have been rather par for the course, but it would have made far more sense given everything that's come before. They were all buddy-buddy, sure, but Nazuna should have gone, "Not this shit again." as she had zero reason to mistrust Alan at that point. I mean, they were going to have that snake guy reveal it anyway, so why take a character moment away from Nazuna? Honestly, they should have just made Nazuna a villain character (as hinted in the OP). Sure, have Alan pull the strings or whatever, but have Nazuna be the one with the warped ideals from her desire to become an idol above believing her friend. Like Nazuna jumping at the chance of becoming the REAL Ginrou by having her acquire the power via that ritual. Have the final battle be Michiru having to decide between saving her friend and saving Anima City. Darn, how much more climactic and heartwrenching of an ending that would have been? |
ActarJun 8, 2020 2:51 PM
| It falling down so fast! Is that all? So thats it, then! Oh, well. After some boring scenery and met a twirling plot, this end proves how terrible the executions were. Alan was a bad guy because he completely lost his mind. I don't even care with the fact shit they had. Michiru becomes a savior really unexpected, or rather i called it a fucking asspull. That end really ruined all of the great moment they had. The way they finish all of them, really rushed like crazy shit, using all of the extreme method they had and kinda destructible for this show. Not gonna say much, the end was terrible at most sides. I can't even know what should i do with this BNA. Even if the art was stunning, and eye-catching in the mean time, all of them can't bring a good moment while needed. It just, damned, lost its magic. Kinda stressful while knowing some good action might happen. But, they just ended all of that with a flash bang by Oogami, then, its over. Alan lost, but he still saved because ofc Michiru again act as a savior. What a joke there, tbh. Damn, with that shit mostly happen and really annoy me, i kinda gave the story section a bad marked. However, since the story felt unique, and the way they mixed some science fiction, i kinda reconsidering some aspects, and give the story sections a 5 points. The art was good, and the animations actually an average. The way they end this show really annoying, that i will blame this section with 5. What else? The music and soundtrack were good enough to me. Maybe in 7? Yeah that sounds good. And this is it, the characterization. I really sorry for saying that the characterization had my horrible scores. Maybe max to 4 will be good, considering i am a kind people. Michiru still a naives girl with so much plot armour shit. Ofc same to Nazuna. It will be good if they both die, rather than meet a lucky fate. Such a shame. I give this plus 1, while they somehow can bring the joke in the bear beastmen. Yeah, only that shit that can satisfied me around that bull craps robot with no characteristic. I actually enjoy this series, until the previous episode. However, again, this end ruined everything. However, i still hold on myself, and give the show a credit more than i ever thought. In the actual judgement, i believe my enjoyment til its last holding on 5 points. Since i can give some more credits, the end scores must be enough on 6 points. Thats it. So how the overall goes? The enjoyment can be a great scores to express my feeling. 6 points. No more. Its sad writing this. Since this show had a lot of potential. But, once again, Trigger really had a big issued resolving the finisher. The story felt weak. And the characterization just gone bland. I don't even see any development toward the end, so its just really ashamed. |
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| Eh come on guys, this anime was a blast to watch through, the end sucked but hell it was a fun ride, just never take a trigger anime too seriously and expect good stories and you will be fine. Same with darling in the franxx. Its a shame to view trigger this way but so far they haven't really proven this wrong. |
| So that old man who was obsessed with Nazuna turned out to be a p-e-d-o. Ugh. Good thing she got away from him. Alan being a "pureblood" god-like beast felt such like an asspull. The sacrificing 1,000 beastmen to gain power or immortality backstory was pretty generic. When this was first announced I really looked forward to it. I loved Beastars and thought it would be similar but it was such a... Trigger shitshow. Trigger has been quite disappointing in the past few years. I saw Promare and loved it. Of course my all time fave would be Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann which is a masterpiece in my eyes but nothing has come close out of Trigger's vault. I gave it a 7/10 in the beginning but I bumped it down to 5/10, it had so much potential but ugh, what happened to the second half? First few episodes were pretty good. :( |
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| That was a good watch. It a similar feeling as KlK, though the two tales aren’t related. 9/10 |
| it was all fine until they started throwing in that feminist remark. the reveal about alan being a beastman was also rushed and didn't have time to sink in. based on reading some posts here and watching franxx previously, I'm scared that I'm having an idea abouy how trigger ends their series. but I still like this one tho so I'll give it a 9 |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| Very bad, not even the "big final battle" was pleasing to watch. |
| Michiru and Shirou were annoying MCs and Nazuna was pretty stupid too. I can't believe they even let Alan escape free in the end, without mentioning that he was Promare's Antagonist 2.0 |
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| As much as I enjoyed BNA, I can't help but feel that this show would've done better if it had double the episodes to flesh out the story and some of the more important characters. The final episode wasn't a trainwreck compared to FranXX's final episode, but it wasn't that great, either. It was just good, which was enough in some way for me to enjoy this episode as it was. Overall, I'll give this a 7/10. The character and story writing was hit and miss at times and it got a little too preachy at times, although a lot less compared to Carole & Tuesday (thankfully), but BNA did have a solid soundtrack, fluid animation and characters like Shirou were pretty awesome to watch their progression and seeing how they battled against the enemies. |
| Hmmmm the story is okay.. the episode I love is the baseball scene, it's very funny and I love the squatter beastman gang. Shirou is so handsome!! |
| Proverbs 4:23 Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it. |
phantomfandom said: With this, Trigger has fulfilled 4 fetishes (Gurren/Mecha, Kill/Yuri, Promare/Yaoi, BNA/Furry) Though as someone mention that this is highly similar to Promare (which I'll put the point in the spoil below) Does kill la kill even fall into Yuri Category? Because my yuri google can't see shit. |
| At least it felt like a Trigger show in the last episode. This is probably the least amazing show in Trigger's catalog. 7/10 Ending song is a banger tho, even though they abused it |
Xaelath said: phantomfandom said: With this, Trigger has fulfilled 4 fetishes (Gurren/Mecha, Kill/Yuri, Promare/Yaoi, BNA/Furry) Though as someone mention that this is highly similar to Promare (which I'll put the point in the spoil below) Does kill la kill even fall into Yuri Category? Because my yuri google can't see shit. As far as I remember, this was a big fat parody of action and ecchi all-female shows. Yuri bait is a frequent element for this, so it’s possible. However, I find it funny to mention mecha as a sexual fetish along with yuri or yaoi, lol. |
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