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Dec 5, 2019 6:53 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Jesus Christ, even kids aren't safe with all this shit going on now.

Looks like Vampir and Melida are getting even more closer now. Thank goodness Melida crashed that wedding ceremony. I'd hate to see Rosetti being forced into a marriage.
Dec 5, 2019 7:53 AM
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Melida kissing Kufa at the beginning was great, Rosetti marriage is canceled fortunately.
Dec 5, 2019 7:59 AM
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That episode really put a smile on my face, we learned a lot. So it was the Marquis acting with this Naqua guy, I knew it was Marquis Prickett, but it's always good to know you're right. Apart from that point, everything else didn't go as I thought it would, which was amazing.

We learn that Kufar and Rosetti knew each other at the church, both orphans, so she knew him as big brother, although they're not blood related. I thought Kuu was going to wipe Melida's memory and froze expecting the worse, then Melida talks him round. I didn't know which way the show was going to go and that's something I don't always get with most shows airing currently, often it's fairly obvious what's going to happen.

That moment between Melida & Kuu, where she was sitting on his lap was lovely. He said it was his ego, he didn't want her to see his vampire characteristics, white hair etc. Melida turns it round on him and says he looks fine and kisses him.

This episode shows us why Kuu watches over Rose, which I didn't really notice before tbh, as she's his little sister from the orphanage (so not blood related, so ok for them to go further), but for me this showed us that Kuu's romantic interest does lie towards Melida, and his feelings towards Rose are those towards a sister.
Dec 5, 2019 8:21 AM
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oooh Melida kissing kufa dang it goes a little spicy there, and finally we learned the backstory of Rose as well.
Dec 5, 2019 8:38 AM
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We learned about Kufa's and Rosetti's backstory and that they knew each other before and that Kufa blocked her memories.

The scene in which Kufa was blocking her memories at the end was just sad.


Dec 5, 2019 9:08 AM
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It's really sad how we know that Rosetti will never be able to achieve her goal of joining her guild, because Kufa is forced to keep her memories blocked.
Dec 5, 2019 9:10 AM
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Great episode!

Obvious that Melida would accept that from Kuufa, and didn't expect melida to kiss him, but was awesome moment!

Thanks god, Melida stop that wedding!

Finaly we got some backstory about Kuufa and Rose, and as i suspect from the other flashback, they were there as a kids, Kuufa to save her turned her into a vampire aswell and also sealing her memory!

So Marquis was doint that bad thing in order to save his wife, he was not that bad, the bad one was Naqua, that finaly is dead!

The moment when Kufaa seal Rose's memory again was sad, poor Rose!

But was heasrtwarming see in the train that Rose have toi complete his objetive, and be famous to encounter someone from her childhood, so she knows about him but dont know he is Kuufa!
Dec 5, 2019 9:44 AM
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Since there's only 4 years of difference between Melida and Kufa and he isn't "adult" yet (17 years old), is it ok for me to ship them?

Dec 5, 2019 9:57 AM
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So Kufa and Rose are siblings, but he sealed her memories in order for her to blend with the rest of society as Rosetti. Seeing Kufa sealing her memories was very sad, but at least she won't be in danger again from the likes of Naqua.
Dec 5, 2019 10:11 AM

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This shit is fuck up
Dec 5, 2019 10:21 AM

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I was kinda sad and annoyed they wiped Rosetti memory. IMO if would've been more fun to watch if they just wiped both or just don't erase memory. That ending was quite good and also a little sad. She did achieve her goals, but she just doesn't remember it. I probably felt like this because I was more of a Kufa and Rosetti shipper although I did got that feeling that it wouldn't work ;p.

This was just me posting what I felt when I was watching. I don't usually do this though
(Also English is not my native language)
Dec 5, 2019 10:38 AM

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> kiss scene

FBI OPEN UP


Besides that, I don't even read the manga/novel but I can feel the rushed adaptation, they skip so much scenes
Dec 5, 2019 10:41 AM

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I loved this episode but it was so sad when Kufa sealed off Rosetti's memories again.
Dec 5, 2019 10:47 AM

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Denferno_C said:
I was kinda sad and annoyed they wiped Rosetti memory. IMO if would've been more fun to watch if they just wiped both or just don't erase memory. That ending was quite good and also a little sad. She did achieve her goals, but she just doesn't remember it. I probably felt like this because I was more of a Kufa and Rosetti shipper although I did got that feeling that it wouldn't work ;p.

This was just me posting what I felt when I was watching. I don't usually do this though
(Also English is not my native language)


You're just like me then. But what we want will never happen anyway, since side charas never win. It's always blondes/tsunderes and main heroines of the story - doesn't matter if they are loli or not it seems. Rosetti as of now is more tragic heroine than Melida for me, since her memories were sealed once again, when Melida's not and she even got mana - so what main heroine wants, she will reach unlike, side charas.

That's why I gave up on shipping in animes, since it's simply not fun at all or something new when it blatantly follows the cliches of main heroine always win. So Visual novels FTW! I can at least choose side charas there!

For Novel ship spoiler (though not really a spoiler since you'd need to be a moron to not predict the ship anyway)


Offtopic: most surprising ship this year would be propably in Gotoubun no hanayome. It's really surprising which is something new, but at the same time it is not (girl who first met him won) so it still followed the cliche of first shown xD
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Dec 5, 2019 10:55 AM

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Raisken said:
Denferno_C said:
I was kinda sad and annoyed they wiped Rosetti memory. IMO if would've been more fun to watch if they just wiped both or just don't erase memory. That ending was quite good and also a little sad. She did achieve her goals, but she just doesn't remember it. I probably felt like this because I was more of a Kufa and Rosetti shipper although I did got that feeling that it wouldn't work ;p.

This was just me posting what I felt when I was watching. I don't usually do this though
(Also English is not my native language)


You're just like me then. But what we want will never happen anyway, since side charas never win. It's always blondes/tsunderes and main heroines of the story - doesn't matter if they are loli or not it seems. Rosetti as of now is more tragic heroine than Melida for me, since her memories were sealed once again, when Melida's not and she even got mana - so what main heroine wants, she will reach unlike, side charas.

That's why I gave up on shipping in animes, since it's simply not fun at all or something new when it blatantly follows the cliches of main heroine always win. So Visual novels FTW! I can at least choose side charas there!

For Novel ship spoiler (though not really a spoiler since you'd need to be a moron to not predict the ship anyway)


Offtopic: most surprising ship this year would be propably in Gotoubun no hanayome. It's really surprising which is something new, but at the same time it is not (girl who first met him won) so it still followed the cliche of first shown xD


Is there a visual novel? I though there was only a manga.
Dec 5, 2019 11:07 AM
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Why didn't he just use the potion on rosetti ?
Dec 5, 2019 11:16 AM
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A wedding scene ? That's good.

Someone broke it ? That's even better.

Good job, Melida. I won't disagree if she is going to marry her tutor later.
Dec 5, 2019 11:16 AM
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I only watch this because of the opening.

Little more story revealed that's nice at least.

We've got brother/sister love and teacher/student love. Now, all we're missing is parent/child love and we'll have forbidden love/incest bingo!
Dec 5, 2019 11:18 AM
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Raisken said:
Denferno_C said:
I was kinda sad and annoyed they wiped Rosetti memory. IMO if would've been more fun to watch if they just wiped both or just don't erase memory. That ending was quite good and also a little sad. She did achieve her goals, but she just doesn't remember it. I probably felt like this because I was more of a Kufa and Rosetti shipper although I did got that feeling that it wouldn't work ;p.

This was just me posting what I felt when I was watching. I don't usually do this though
(Also English is not my native language)


You're just like me then. But what we want will never happen anyway, since side charas never win. It's always blondes/tsunderes and main heroines of the story - doesn't matter if they are loli or not it seems. Rosetti as of now is more tragic heroine than Melida for me, since her memories were sealed once again, when Melida's not and she even got mana - so what main heroine wants, she will reach unlike, side charas.

That's why I gave up on shipping in animes, since it's simply not fun at all or something new when it blatantly follows the cliches of main heroine always win. So Visual novels FTW! I can at least choose side charas there!

For Novel ship spoiler (though not really a spoiler since you'd need to be a moron to not predict the ship anyway)


Offtopic: most surprising ship this year would be propably in Gotoubun no hanayome. It's really surprising which is something new, but at the same time it is not (girl who first met him won) so it still followed the cliche of first shown xD



Dec 5, 2019 11:19 AM

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Denferno_C said:


Is there a visual novel? I though there was only a manga.


No there is not. I just wrote in general that for shipping I switched to VN's since anime's are making the story too predictable or only focus on main heroine 90% of the time, so audience won't like sub heroines cause of character development.



Mattinator95 said:
Raisken said:


You're just like me then. But what we want will never happen anyway, since side charas never win. It's always blondes/tsunderes and main heroines of the story - doesn't matter if they are loli or not it seems. Rosetti as of now is more tragic heroine than Melida for me, since her memories were sealed once again, when Melida's not and she even got mana - so what main heroine wants, she will reach unlike, side charas.

That's why I gave up on shipping in animes, since it's simply not fun at all or something new when it blatantly follows the cliches of main heroine always win. So Visual novels FTW! I can at least choose side charas there!

For Novel ship spoiler (though not really a spoiler since you'd need to be a moron to not predict the ship anyway)


Offtopic: most surprising ship this year would be propably in Gotoubun no hanayome. It's really surprising which is something new, but at the same time it is not (girl who first met him won) so it still followed the cliche of first shown xD





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Dec 5, 2019 11:32 AM

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The scene at the start of the episode was well done. The art held up far more than most scenes, it was subtly directed and finally gave Kufu some introspection. He wasn't trying to erase Melida's memories for her own good, it was because his "ego" couldn't let her know. She made the first move and smooched him, not sure how I feel about the age gap but oh well.

Visually, the fight animation is still mediocre and overly simplistic, thankfully fights end quickly. The parts with Rose opened a few new holes in the story. Melida was able to snap her out of the trance so easily, it begs the question of why it didn't happen sooner and if it'll happen again. I liked the scene when Kufu was forced to suppress her memories of being a vampire; however, everyone in the church saw her true form so shouldn't Kufu suppress everyone else's memories too?

I may have missed something, but is the entire church underground? The spider dude fled into the ravine only to end up in the left entrance of the church, cornered by the girls.
Dec 5, 2019 11:50 AM

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Melida is really cute with Kufa but I can't help and ship him with Rosetti, even more so now with the backstory.
Dec 5, 2019 12:31 PM
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My heart melted on the kiss scene >///<
All the story between Kufa and Rose is so good.
This is the only anime of the season that allways makes me sentimental and has a very good story.
I kinda was expecting that Kufa would transform melida but this was good too. UwU
Dec 5, 2019 12:46 PM

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Rosetti called my man onii-chan :D
Dec 5, 2019 1:07 PM

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Ok, looks like they've ended what can be describe as the climax , so I guess from ep 10 to 12 would be nothing more than just fillers.
Dec 5, 2019 1:45 PM

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I did expect that Melida was gonna accept Kufa's vampire look. That kiss though... I mean, atleast show it to us and not turn the view to a boring cave wall..

I must admit, that flashback of what happened at the mansion was interesting. So Rosetti is half vampire as well, but only cause Kufa made her to be to save her. But then sealed her memories. Was nice to see them team up on that spider Naqua. He even undid the seal he put on Rosetti. Omg I was so sad when he had to seal her memory again, she didn't deserve that to be honest..

I appreciate that teasing on the train towards Rosetti.
Dec 5, 2019 2:08 PM

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In my opionon the best episode so far. Finally Melinda and Kufa kissed each other and we learned a lot about Rose. Although I really wish her memories weren't delete again. Hopefully she will remember again about her oni-chan
Dec 5, 2019 2:38 PM
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[quote=LilyWhiteheart message=58763907]Since there's only 4 years of difference between Melida and Kufa and he isn't "adult" yet (17 years old), is it ok for me to ship them?[quote]
of course it is. i mean i ship complete children together so if you ship teens that's fine. :] (or then again maybe we're both just crazy.)
Dec 5, 2019 2:42 PM
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this episode was good. kufa explained to melida better than i thought . i did not expect kufa to suggest KILLING melida . whoo. that was a surprise. also poor kufa having to force some one to forget him just so that they can live in the public.:[
but the episode was still good as heaven and heck i'm lookin forward to episode 10.
bye peeps.;-]
Dec 5, 2019 4:19 PM

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"Don't come near me!"

Proceeds to walk directly towards her


Goddamnit the wrong person got their memory erased. Cmon if Melida could convince Kufa to not erase her memories why couldn't Rosetti do the same? Even with the fear of the guild couldn't Rosetti just keep it a secret like Melida is doing? The least they could've done is actually show the kiss even if it was just on the cheek

Also like how spider bro managed to no sweat take out those 2 elite dudes and wound the commander, yet he stood no chance against a bunch of underage girls :P

But that initial segment with Kufa and Melida though. I can see why the show is popular with women lol

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It's really sad how we know that Rosetti will never be able to achieve her goal of joining her guild, because Kufa is forced to keep her memories blocked.


Is he really forced to do that? I didn't get the reasoning. He's living in society just fine by hiding his lycanthrope lineage. Why is it different for her, especially considering she doesn't want it?
Dec 5, 2019 5:17 PM

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Absolutely hilarious episode.
The hidden enemy is actually... A BIG DERPY SPIDER LJSADJKSDAJKXAJLJKAS
THE SPIDER'S VOICE IS SERIOUS AF
Too bad it got taken down quickly and the Spiderbro's blood looked like giant splotches of ketchup.

BUT OH WAIT SPIDERBRO IS BACK... only to be pathetically defeated again (I loved it when he stood there without moving thanks to the zero gravity bullshit). And his "NOOOoOoOoOo" as he was dying? Hysterical.

The kiss scene felt so flat. It should've been last week's cliffhanger. I felt nothing as it happened at the start of the episode, all the characters seemed so different from before, I don't know.

I have no idea what's next in this show, I doubt anyone working on this show knows... I'm just in for the weekly nonsense and cheap animation.
Dec 5, 2019 5:22 PM
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This just went endearing but confusing to awesomeness.

Don’t be judging Kufa and Melinda in their relationship. This is a different world and not bound to the social rules of Earth.
Clearly he is not opposed to it. He’s really not much older than her anyway.

Rosetti is his apparent sibling and already his vamp kin so she can’t marry him anyway. I’m glad she is back to her normal memories, being altered.

Dec 5, 2019 6:00 PM

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If only that guy didn't have to go giant Spidey, then this would've been a bit fine.

I'm kinda glad Kufa erased Rossetti's memories.
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Dec 5, 2019 6:44 PM

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nani the fuck "ass" pride



felt if this was a better show the whole Rosetti reveal and arc could've been executed better


not even touching the Melinda relationship
Dec 5, 2019 7:04 PM

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Was expecting more FBI posts here, surprised there's only one. XD

Decent episode, Melida x Kufa scenes were spicy. I'll ship it! Hah, I love how Melida woke Rose up again and her teasing at the end was great too.

So Kufa is Rose's adopted brother, that's cool. She's also a vampire with her powers sealed.
Dec 5, 2019 8:50 PM

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I'm shook af. THAT KISS. I SHIP. Bar none best episode of the series, people really need to stop hating on this series. Rosetti and Kufa's backstory was very well explained and the details that they cut out make a lot more sense. Fight animation was mid ngl, but the story is why I watch this, not the fights. Merida go secure your king, girl
Dec 5, 2019 9:29 PM
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One of my favorites episodes so far... many revelations in one episode.. love it...

• KUFA X MELIDA IS REAL!!! 💏💏💏💏 THAT KISS... HAHAHA

• ROSETTI AND KUFA WELL KNOWN EACH OTHER IN THE PAST... yeah...
Dec 5, 2019 9:44 PM
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Fallere_825 said:
It's really sad how we know that Rosetti will never be able to achieve her goal of joining her guild, because Kufa is forced to keep her memories blocked.


Is he really forced to do that? I didn't get the reasoning. He's living in society just fine by hiding his lycanthrope lineage. Why is it different for her, especially considering she doesn't want it?

Don't you remember? It's the pact he made with his guild.
Dec 5, 2019 10:09 PM

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Yikes. At least their ages aren't that different.
Dec 6, 2019 12:34 AM

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In case someone else got confused about the backstory revelation (like I did), I don't think Kufa and Rosetti are direct siblings. Based on the anime, it states Kufa was orphaned after his mother's death. They are most likely step-siblings under the Marquis' care.
Dec 6, 2019 2:44 AM

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The relationship between Melida and Kufa ABSOLUTELY holds up being in a universe that's vastly different, no matter how different or obstinate that Kufa may be, that kiss scene pretty much makes up for it.

Learning about the "night gene" factor, Kufa and Rosetti ain't siblings in the literal sense, but the play on memory loss is just tragic. The Spidey lancanthrope-arachnid and Rosetti's dad (who's forced to conduct experiments), and all that shit, it was memories sealed that couldn't be afforded to be brought out to the light. Didn't know the church was big enough to hold in such a creature.

However to reinforce her back to her vampire state, a lover's quarrel? More like the prerequisite battle between student and teacher to expose the plan that started from long ago (which ended too quickly). The eternal pact between Rosetti and Kufa was somewhat of a curse, having to seal her memories once again (for safety reasons and no explanation) and alleviate the Marquis's role in this incident.

Against all odds, this episode is quite the spectacle. Enjoyable episode, finally for once.
Dec 6, 2019 3:29 AM

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Nice Kufa decided to tell Melida everything instead of sealing her memories. Also it was sad to see him seal Rose's memories again.
Dec 6, 2019 9:52 AM

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was that the end? that looked like the end.
a shitty end for a shitty show

I watched this trash until the end, my degeneracy level went up by a little
Dec 6, 2019 11:17 AM

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Wow... either the writer for this episode was taking the piss or the show finally revealed its true shoujo colours. Either way, it was so fucking dumb I couldn't stop cringing.
Ii tenki desu ne...
Dec 6, 2019 12:20 PM

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The episode turn out to be one of the better ones of the series. The comedy, the ahhhhhh of the bad guy and feels at the end 10/10
Dec 6, 2019 1:15 PM

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I finally get to see Rosetti's vampire form in action and it was great. So happy to see that Kufu and Rosetti team up. Rosetti is now by far my favourite character in this series. The flashback was exactly as I had guessed which Im happy about. So they're siblings which is cute.

Suchs that he had to seal her memory again. Also being a Kufu X Rosetti fan the amount of Melida romance was bleh.

Also I swear Rosetti's voice sounds different than before. It must just be me. Im going to go back a few episodes and see cause I swear she didnt sound like that. Unless its just her older self coming back that changed her personality a little and made her sound different.

(Update: Its just me going crazy XD)

Might be the art this episode but something definitely felt off. Rosetti in particular. She looked more mature in previous episodes but this episode she looks really young and its really bugging me. Also the action this episode while being cool was a bit meh. I liked the beginning of the series more than it currently. It just felt like this arc with Rosetti was a bit meh so hope next one is good. Shame since Rosetti's my favourite character too. Guess we'll see what happens.

Overall good episode but its a shame that this'll probably be the last Rosetti X Kufu that we see for the rest of the series. Hope the Light Novel gets translated so I can read more.
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Melida gets more annoying each episode.

Rosetti and Kufa ship sunk.
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Dec 6, 2019 8:34 PM
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I felt sorry for Rosetti She lost her Oniichan Glad they were able to take down the big spider melida kissing Kufu was great Then she teased Rosettti
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Fallere_825 said:
Sorghaghtani said:


Is he really forced to do that? I didn't get the reasoning. He's living in society just fine by hiding his lycanthrope lineage. Why is it different for her, especially considering she doesn't want it?

Don't you remember? It's the pact he made with his guild.


Yeah, but is it worth staying in the guild if it means he forces his sister to live a lie? She certainly did not want her memory sealed. I feel this is just a convenient setup for him.
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