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| The op and ending are good, but nothing can beat the original, personally. An emotional episode, even if it was hard to see why. A lot of hidden schemes and thematic ties that extended the psychology of each character. |
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| Is that Shinra's brother Sho?? *o* I wonder how he'll react after he enconters his younger brother as a villain X( Just like Yin Yang. Vulcan made some weird squirrel... the fluid just got out in the wrong side XD He also impressed me the most after he showed the members of the 8th the wild life projected. I was stunned! So beautiful <3 that was some amazing gadget! Great episode! The new OP is madness! So amazingly it was crazy *o* |
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| The new OP song is lit and the visuals on the new ED look really good. That Adolla Link scene at the end shook the shit out of me. My favorite thing about this episode has to be Iris on her casual clothes. She's so cute. That scene with the animals was really great. |
| You all need jesus, holy heck, the new OP is marvelous, 10 times better than the last one. Anyway the visuals are kinda meh, still, OP 1 showed a giant Homura Bito that doesn't fucking exist lol. Maybe it spoiled a bit too much tho... I mean they even shows the Also my boi Victor appears. Interesting VA, while reading the mangos I imagined a completely different voice, a bit more mature, but I think this one works too. |
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| Ok that scientist is weird? He seems like the character you'd suspect to be one of the bad guys but isn't in the end And the whole Vulcan gang there are cool chars too. Especially Vulcan I kind of expected Giovanni to show up when they talked about engineers idk why Maybe because of his looks. He was an apprentice of Vulcan's grandfather after all And now he's planning on killing him too.. Still don't get how Shinra awakened to this "spider-senses ver. foot" |
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| The OP is garbage, we waited two months for this bullshit? visuals don't match at all |
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| Great episode! So it looks like Company 8 is looking to expand its team. But now it looks like they have a rat in their midst with their new scientist. I wonder how long he'll be undercover? We haven't seen Joker in a while either. But I am glad Captain Hibana is still around obsessing over Shinra. Vulcan looks like a badass. I really like his character, he seems really cool and genuine. Also, hot damn is Lisa a total babe. We were also reminded in the most clever way that the world of Fire Force is a desolate one. The first hint was them trying to figure out what an elephant looked like. Then Vulcan used that machine, and it's clear most of them have never really seen live animals, blue oceans, and green forests. That was much needed world building. Arthur and Iris are adorable this week. I think the one thing I feel is lacking from this is the lack of interaction between the team. I would love to see more Maki interaction for example. |
| Not a fan of the new op in terms of the animation. I don't think they put enough effort with the animations compared to the last. Pretty chill ep. But they'll probably fight the 3rd over Vulcan |
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| A new scientist from Haijima wants to join 8th, really dont know his intentions! Characater chimestry thsi episode was really good, Iris was pretty in casual clotes! Vulcan were introduced this episode, and i really liked, also Lisa was introduced, and she is also beautiful, seems Vulcan is a genious enginer! hope Shinra change Vulcan ideas and made him join the 8th! So Shinra's adolla burst can react to other minds, looking forward to know more of in in following episode! New OP was awesome, i really liked that metal style! |
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| OH GOD! new OP by coldrain end new ED by Lenny Code fiction was rockingly GLORIOUS!!! Shinra's intuition is right on point! 5/5. |
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| Lol they didn't show the part where Shinra touches Lisa to find out if she is a machine or a human. |
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| My god, this anime just gets better and better! I loooove Vulcan; he's character design is so cool, he loves skulls and has a big passion for animals... what's not to like?! I'm so curious about the new aspects to Shinra's pyrokinesis too, especially now that it's taking on a life of it's own! And that new Op! The minute it started i knew it was Coldrain and Coldrain are too fucking awesome! I feel like the new Op is a hint that that tone of the anime is gonna shift to something a bit darker. |
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| Wow, this episode hit me in the feels 'cause I'm an animal lover. The extent of the post-apocalyptic part of Fire Force hasn't been elaborated on too much, so it hurts to know that the setting is in such a fucked up state that nearly all the animal species didn't survive the Calamity and so on. (Also, new OP/ED yay.) |
| Last couple of episode have been decent at last, and no silly out of place fan service moments. Last OP and ED were much better though. Not a fan of the song either. Good character moments this episode. |
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| say MAYYYYYYDAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Damn, that shit took me back to my hardcore days lmao. I like some Coldrain songs but the OP is fucking terrible. The ED song is ok but nothing compared to the previous one. By the OP itself we know the redhead guy is going to join, but I really like his dream. Utopic, but this is anime. His girl looks fine as well. |
| I like the new OP, I knew it was coldrain since their vocalist has a distinct voice and style. I've always enjoyed their music, especially in the OP of Rainbow: Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin. The last OP was memorable because of its beat but I feel this OP is more up my alley. Got to see three of my faves in this episode: Vulcan, Victor and yes, Giovanni. Lots of try-hard funny moments especially with Shinra's deformed face whenever he gets hit with the can. Vulcan looking fine as fuck. Lisa got that booty too. Yu looking like he should be on Shin Chuuka ichiban. Iris pressing every button she can get her finger on. She was adorable, not gonna lie. |
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| New OP and Ed! I like them both but I like the previous ones better, they just sound better for me. As for the episode, the goofy humor is still there and Iris was adorable during that time in Vulcan's house. 4/5 |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
Leo said: Yeah she is cute af <3. The OP and ED song is great but the visuals are meh that's why they're kinda bad.Iris was so adorable in this episode, pressing all those buttons like a little child. I'm also a fan of both the new OP and ED. Oh well. |
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| New OP/ED, and I'd have to say aside from its very metal-sounding, it just screams as much as a typical Shounen show. Same as is with the ED, the 1st cour pair was infinitely better. Visuals-wise, well we know how that turned out. With that, the new guy in Company 8, scientist Viktor Licht, is literally a suspicious rat. His motives and all are yet to be known. Meanwhile, going to this "Vulcan" person, who is a tried and true Fire Force hater, due to his skills and expertise that everyone has him recruiting for, turned away. And Shinra, Arthur and Sister Lily are sent there to persuade him of a change. But with Dr. Giovanni, Company 3's captain (who is funded by Haijima Industries), hatred is on his mind of the past. And it'll do nothing to change his heart that all Vulcan wanted to (re)create is the world before everything changed for the worse. Did I ever think that Shinra's Adolla Link would even work? It's nothing, but of importance as we go along. Certainly this trouble is more than just family history alone... |
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deg said: Uxoh said: I mean, even fights don't flow very well in the later parts, there are no inbetweens and it's hard to follow, to the point when manga coveys the action better and gives better sence of space. i disagree on that one lol sakuga does not mean always have to be full FPS animation like Naotoshi Shida of Toei usually does its just most sakuga of Fire Force has lack of pseudo camera movements thats all Stuff like this just reinforces my view that the term sakuga has lost its meaning. Sakuga is supposed to describe only the absolute best 11/10 animation. Nowadays I see people use it to describe any scene with three or four above average frames of animation. It's oversaturating the usage and cheapening the term. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: i disagree on that one lol sakuga does not mean always have to be full FPS animation like Naotoshi Shida of Toei usually does its just most sakuga of Fire Force has lack of pseudo camera movements thats all Stuff like this just reinforces my view that the term sakuga has lost its meaning. Sakuga is supposed to describe only the absolute best 11/10 animation. Nowadays I see people use it to describe any scene with three or four above average frames of animation. It's oversaturating the usage and cheapening the term. not really sakugabooru and sakugablog just spreads more awereness about sakuga sakuga is also the unique signature animation style of an animator anyway and there are lots of animators |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Stuff like this just reinforces my view that the term sakuga has lost its meaning. Sakuga is supposed to describe only the absolute best 11/10 animation. Nowadays I see people use it to describe any scene with three or four above average frames of animation. It's oversaturating the usage and cheapening the term. not really sakugabooru and sakugablog just spreads more awereness about sakuga sakuga is also the unique signature animation style of an animator anyway and there are lots of animators Both of those sites are kings of the problem. They overrate so much shit it's not even funny. And no sakuuga is not "the unique animation style of an animator". Sakuga is the absolute GOAT tier 11/10 animation. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: not really sakugabooru and sakugablog just spreads more awereness about sakuga sakuga is also the unique signature animation style of an animator anyway and there are lots of animators Both of those sites are kings of the problem. They overrate so much shit it's not even funny. And no sakuuga is not "the unique animation style of an animator". Sakuga is the absolute GOAT tier 11/10 animation. source from where you got that info? because stuff like this exist and the whole sakugabooru is wrong then? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuPNSyztkHPqV-M4ePSmN_2BLhONu0WLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aChpK2jcnQ EDIT: plus i said also can be defined as the animation style of an animator especially key animators so obviously sakuga are high quality animation first or money shots as they call it |
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| @deg Sakuga is exceptionally high quality animation. Stuff that happens very rarely. Sites like sakugablog just say anything that looks good to them is Sakuga and it cheapens the meaning and value of the term. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: @deg Sakuga is exceptionally high quality animation. Stuff that happens very rarely. Sites like sakugablog just say anything that looks good to them is Sakuga and it cheapens the meaning and value of the term. do you know that the sakuga community the one that invented the term sakuga as its used now are the ones that created sakugabooru? there is no such thing as sakuga in japan, sakuga simply means animation in japan but the sakuga community redefine it like what you claim as high quality animation and the art of the key animators too |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: @deg Sakuga is exceptionally high quality animation. Stuff that happens very rarely. Sites like sakugablog just say anything that looks good to them is Sakuga and it cheapens the meaning and value of the term. do you know that the sakuga community the one that invented the term sakuga as its used now are the ones that created sakugabooru? there is no such thing as sakuga in japan, sakuga simply means animation in japan but the sakuga community redefine it like what you claim as high quality animation and the art of the key animators too Yes, I know all of that. The definition of sakuga is not the point of contention. The point of contention is whether certain scenes are or are not sakuga. Fire Force in my opinion has some decent animation at times but nothing at sakuga level. |
| Already love the new OP! Great episode! Can't wait to see Shinra in action and saving the Vulcan. So that's the power that Shinra acquired by having his Adolla Link activated? damn As expected the Giovanni is an evil guy. |
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Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: do you know that the sakuga community the one that invented the term sakuga as its used now are the ones that created sakugabooru? there is no such thing as sakuga in japan, sakuga simply means animation in japan but the sakuga community redefine it like what you claim as high quality animation and the art of the key animators too Yes, I know all of that. The definition of sakuga is not the point of contention. The point of contention is whether certain scenes are or are not sakuga. Fire Force in my opinion has some decent animation at times but nothing at sakuga level. i rather believe in the sakuga community that posted all of this as sakuga https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=fire_force |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Yes, I know all of that. The definition of sakuga is not the point of contention. The point of contention is whether certain scenes are or are not sakuga. Fire Force in my opinion has some decent animation at times but nothing at sakuga level. i rather believe in the sakuga community that posted all of this as sakuga https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=fire_force People can upload whatever the heck they want to sakugabooru. That doesn't actually make it sakuuga |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: i rather believe in the sakuga community that posted all of this as sakuga https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=fire_force People can upload whatever the heck they want to sakugabooru. That doesn't actually make it sakuuga everything uploaded to that site is moderated by the sakuga moderators in there anyway you got your own definition of sakuga that is different than the people/community that invented the meaning of it so lets stop here |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: People can upload whatever the heck they want to sakugabooru. That doesn't actually make it sakuuga everything uploaded to that site is moderated by the sakuga moderators in there anyway you got your own definition of sakuga that is different than the people/community that invented the meaning of it so lets stop here Some of the stuff on the first page you linked is freaking key frames and shots from the OP. I think it's pretty clear how low the standards there are. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: everything uploaded to that site is moderated by the sakuga moderators in there anyway you got your own definition of sakuga that is different than the people/community that invented the meaning of it so lets stop here Some of the stuff on the first page you linked is freaking key frames and shots from the OP. I think it's pretty clear how low the standards there are. thats why i said sakuga is not just the money shots anymore but also the animation style of key animators and not all key animators have pleasing animation anyway but their still contracted as key animators that can improve over time i mean not every key animators are very good already when they started |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Some of the stuff on the first page you linked is freaking key frames and shots from the OP. I think it's pretty clear how low the standards there are. thats why i said sakuga is not just the money shots anymore but also the animation style of key animators and not all key animators have pleasing animation anyway but their still contracted as key animators that can improve over time i mean not every key animators are very good already when they started Okay and? No one is saying animators can't improve. I'm just saying call a spade a spade. Not every single moment of above average or semi fluid animation is a freaking sakuga moment. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: thats why i said sakuga is not just the money shots anymore but also the animation style of key animators and not all key animators have pleasing animation anyway but their still contracted as key animators that can improve over time i mean not every key animators are very good already when they started Okay and? No one is saying animators can't improve. I'm just saying call a spade a spade. Not every single moment of above average or semi fluid animation is a freaking sakuga moment. and im telling you your definition of sakuga is not what the sakuga community have defined stop this madness already then since you clearly want to stick with your OWN definition rather than the definition of the people that made it |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Okay and? No one is saying animators can't improve. I'm just saying call a spade a spade. Not every single moment of above average or semi fluid animation is a freaking sakuga moment. and im telling you your definition of sakuga is not what the sakuga community have defined stop this madness already then since you clearly want to stick with your OWN definition rather than the definition of the people that made it Stop using "sakuga community" like it's one collective hivemind that's only allowed to have one opinion on what is and isn't sakuga. |
| Looks like the next episode will be amazing. Suddenly the 8th got a scientist and will be getting Vulcan which will make the 8th stronger, the last scene is what makes me excited and it looks like there will be 3rd vs 8th in the next episode. |
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Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: and im telling you your definition of sakuga is not what the sakuga community have defined stop this madness already then since you clearly want to stick with your OWN definition rather than the definition of the people that made it Stop using "sakuga community" like it's one collective hivemind that's only allowed to have one opinion on what is and isn't sakuga. err ok are you telling me you are part of the sakuga community? are you even part of their discord? and at least uploading salkuga clips on sakugabooru? this people i call sakuga community are the ones that even made the definition of sakuga in the first place if you got a problem with how they define things now and not the old definition then tell them because right now any key animation whether good or bad is sakuga to them |
deg said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Stop using "sakuga community" like it's one collective hivemind that's only allowed to have one opinion on what is and isn't sakuga. err ok are you telling me you are part of the sakuga community? are you even part of their discord? and at least uploading salkuga clips on sakugabooru? this people i call sakuga community are the ones that even made the definition of sakuga in the first place if you got a problem with how they define things now and not the old definition then tell them because right now any key animation whether good or bad is sakuga to them I addressed you and your opinion. You are the one who dragged in the "sakuga community" who mind you are all individuals with different opinions and not some hive mind like you're trying to push. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: deg said: err ok are you telling me you are part of the sakuga community? are you even part of their discord? and at least uploading salkuga clips on sakugabooru? this people i call sakuga community are the ones that even made the definition of sakuga in the first place if you got a problem with how they define things now and not the old definition then tell them because right now any key animation whether good or bad is sakuga to them I addressed you and your opinion. You are the one who dragged in the "sakuga community" who mind you are all individuals with different opinions and not some hive mind like you're trying to push. and i told you the sakuga community im referring to are the ones that run the sakugabooru and have thier own discord and always have a presence and a lot of followers on twitter too if you got a problem of what they upload as sakuga then just ask them directly then you got your OWN definition different to them thats just my argument here |
| @Red_Ranger_Wien here i asked them, art is subjective they say so theres that     |
| great episode! loved the new op but not as much as the first op. it had nice clip and introduced new characters that about to come made me fired up lol this episode was goood to me new cool crewmates and their back story is great - not "too much" dark I'd say its in the right amount. kinda left me curious on how will it go on, although its a bit obvious. |
| [quote=deg message=58617042]@Red_Ranger_Wien here i asked them, art is subjective they say so theres that snip/quote] Cool, so are you done now? |
| I was hyped for this episode when i knew that Shuntaro Tozawa is gonna direct it and guess what? he didn't disappoint! he has a unique touch on his work and i LOVE IT! |
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