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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh Koharu is back and she is relevant again. Honestly, that girl always gets funny ideas in her head like with the double dates. She's probably one of the weirdest characters in this show tbh even with cast already being pretty weird. |
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| Lolicon going on loli rehab with his loli-senpai...... Sound ok to me... |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
| at the end when Shoma turns the lights a big oof lol |
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| A double date with Koharu, Shoma and Keiki and Sayuki. Good thing Koharu was honest with her confession to Shoma. Shoma's reaction at the end to seeing pictures of himself lol. |
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| Haha this might as well be the best couple (ship) for now Lots of ups and downs in one episode ending somewhere between the lines just to take some heavy damage again xD And of course the girl has to have some weird quirk so perfectly balanced as all things should be |
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| Damn... almost thinking Koharu might be turning back and having a feeling towards Keiki... Thank you, best girl ! |
| It's not everyday that a harem anime MC has to play cupid for hooking up another side female character with his best friend, so this is quite a refreshing episode for me....... Anyway, I think it's quite cute of Sayuki to talk while eating Dorayaki ? Taiyaki ? during their bowling session. Anyone else likes seeing her eating during that scene ? |
EhurvaksAug 19, 2019 9:01 AM
| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| The best episode yet. And hahaha. The pictures would've creeped me out too. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Farmaceut said: Lolicon going on loli rehab with his loli-senpai...... Sound ok to me... In before the whole thing backfires lol. At least the stalker thing is out of the bag :D. |
MomoSinX said: Farmaceut said: Lolicon going on loli rehab with his loli-senpai...... Sound ok to me... In before the whole thing backfires lol. At least the stalker thing is out of the bag :D. If a had loli-senpai that cute stalking me, i would be 100% ok with it.... |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
| Shouma is really an idiot... |
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| Wlep, that ends the Shouma and Otori relationship....... |
| For a moment I thought Keiki was going to pick his sister fot the date, nothing wrong with that, but I'm glad she picked Sayuki, she's my favorite of the harem. I would have loved more interactions between them though. Darkness Sayuki, you are boobs. How the fuck can Shoma self-proclaim to be a lolicon and reject Otori? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with him! Ok, the stalker part may be a valid reason. I liked how Keiki cheered her up. Dammit, they have such good chemistry. |
| That was a pretty enjoyable episode. i just didn't like what Shoma pulled at the confession, totally BS. Anyway, hoping for story progression in the future episodes. |
| This was actually pretty good, I genuinely believed that this could actually work, up to the point were Otori was honest towards Shoma.. however that "I can't date you, cause I am a lolicon" is an utter bullshit reason to not date her, cause no matter how you look at it, she's a loli... sigh. I thought they could be a nice couple and work it out, up to when Shoma turned on all the lights, yeah I might have been a bit freaked out as well.. |
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| It ended in nothing then, otori almost have the win but after shoma saw the photos he's no going with the rehab thing now. |
| this episode would be great if it wasnt for the obvious yet unneeded punchline at the end, straight up middle finger to all the stuff (yes even the supremely stupid reason for the rejection) that lead up to "starting out as friends" Keiki being a wingman for once is a breathe of fresh air for an MC at least |
| We have 5 episodes left so will the Cinderella be known by the end ？ |
| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| So more drama between loli-alike Ootori and Shoma. As needless as such story plot, I think that whatever Ootori wanted to achieve, she sure achieved that. But that ribbon will always be indicative that Shoma's lolicon will trump everything else. Sayori is just as useless as she is a "pet". Wow oh wow... In the end...even after Ootori's stalkerish habits come to light, Shoma's best reply is to start being friends...yep, scum of the earth. Keiki being Ootori's wingman was a nice change on the sidelines, but for it being focused on Shoma meant that other characters are not one-off so that's good. The reason for his lolicon is omitted out in the anime, the manga had that explanation (did anyone ever catch this). Seems that the only way we'll ever know about Shoma's lolicon problem is if the anime ever tried to vouch his reasoning, if not then never mind. |
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LeSponge said: Love this episode... koharu and shoma... well to be honest Shoma didnt do anything wrong here as he really does prefer loli so we cant do anything about it but well atleast he gives the girl a chance by offering FRIENDSHIP... which you know im real life is a FRIENDZONE... Hahaha And that ending part is 😂😂😂😂 ... if i am shoma , i might run away quickly. Hahaha Don't you know that humans can change their feelings when they have formed a closer relationship with someone ? Now they may be friends, but in the future Shouma might overcome his psychological barrier and accept Koharu and then marry her. So Koharu has at least a chance, since Shouma doesn't have any other girl he likes at the moment. An example of someone who doesn't have a chance at all in winning the heart of his/her love interest, is Futoshi from Darling in the Franxx, LOL... |
| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| Before watching this episode, I'm talking to myself, if Shouma reject Otori just because she's not the real loli, then he is suck. And... he did ! But fortunately, Kiryuu gave him some words. My bro ! With all of the weird girl he faced all day, Kiryuu still has sanity to do that . This episode almost been my most favourite, and almost an excellent romance, if not because that curse LAMPS !!! But, if Shouma reject her because of that pictures, then he is good to go, because that's normal. |
| The path of a Lolicon is a hard one eh? Staying away from FBI and getting not too close to the Loli's is too hard. |
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| as a lolicon myself, not being able to date someone just because they're atleast 1 year older sounds absurd to me. In fact a lolicon is liking "little" girls taking little as petite or small and age has little to do with it. also, IT'S JUST ONE FUCKING YEAR ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME SHOMA. DISGRACE TO ALL LOLICONS |
| No way.... they cut off the entire reason why Souma is a lolicon. WRRRRRRRYY!? Souma is a lolicon because he got traumatized by a bunch of ara ara sisters as a child. |
copyrightRingoAug 21, 2019 4:07 AM
| 「ボクは…確かに現実に絶望している。だけど、自分には絶望していない!! 今がつまらないか…楽しいのか…平凡なのか…決めているのは現実じゃない。決めるのはボクだ!!ボクが望めば不可能はない!!」-桂木桂馬 "True, I've given up on the real world. However, I haven't given up on myself!! The world doesn't get to decide whether my life is boring, fun, or ordinary because that's my decision to make!! As long as I have the will, nothing is impossible!!" -Katsuragi Keima |
copyrightRingo said: No way.... they cut off the entire reason why Souma is a lolicon. WRRRRRRRYY!? Souma is a lolicon because he got traumatized by a bunch of ara ara sisters as a child. So it's not necessarily that he likes young girls, just that he's afraid of older girls. So when he's 20 he'd rather date the 19yo than the 21yo! That also explains his comment after the picture reveal, not only is the stalking part scary, but it reinforces his thinking that older girls are to be feared. This makes more sense as there's no two ways about it she is a loli due to her body type. |
| This episode basically confirmed that the approach taken on the loli/pedo subject is strictly the opinion of the author, and the translations are not entirely at fault. It's clear that this is another one of those, guys subject to the whims of girls, very typical of romcoms. The ironic catch of it all is that the absurdity of the girls' issues outweigh any of the guys'. I'm a true lolicon myself, through and through and i even get a lot of respect for my knowledge and resources on the subject... Shouma is not a true lolicon, but a conditioned one, if what @copyrightRingo said is true. Ultimately Shouma's conditioned loliconism is artificially reinforced by the fact that a chibiko (short girl, chibiko =/= loli) whom he almost expanded his horizons into then hammered him down with all the stalker photos haha. Now Keiki has a partner to suffer with at the whims of the crazy girls 👌 The author's impression of lolicon is that it is a reactive psychological condition, and that is particularly refers to younger age (which it sorta does, but not exactly). The subtitles having translated lolicon to pedophile is a fault of not understanding that pedo refers specifically to prepubescent, yadda yadda. The official translations are only half-wrong. As far as the whole confession/rejection thing, that was kind of what i was waiting for to see what the author thought about the subject, which is not what i really hoped for, but is at least internally consistent. If he rejected and refused, it would mean the author thought lolicon means pedo and that he would refuse romance because of it despite already showing it could work (the problem all in Shouma's head, because thinking age is more than just a number), and if he accepted, it meant the author correctly understood lolicon (though likely shallow) and sold the thing a bit weak. For an ecchi romcom series this is sufficient. Anyway, tl;dr - the subjects are the opinion of the author not the view of the japanese. |
GenesisAriaAug 20, 2019 5:53 PM
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| Best episode so far, we got some nice romance here compare to the previous episodes which are annoying. Still, why they should make almost all of the girls a pervert? This would be more enjoyable if we can get a proper romance, the previous episodes were truly useless. Please, no incest this time. |
EsieEyenAug 20, 2019 6:51 PM
| Different ED this time from TRUE! i like that ext version of Mia Regina ED on the middle part of this episode... i like girls with courage to confess but that friend of MC is just a lolicon trash! 4/5. |
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| Koharu is best girl. I love her. |
| Well lol after all that drama the last part made everythng so hilarious that the heavy mood cleared off and back to the usual love comedy. |
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| Okay, can we just admit that Shoma isn't a lolicon. He is a pedophile. |
| the opening is so good...this series is really something though |
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| Considering the manga spoiler posted above, I now have a better understanding of Shouma's reasoning for being a (conditioned) lolicon. He's a lolicon out of necessity and trauma, not someone who naturally discovered he was a lolicon. Therefore, while a lolicon like me would have accepted Otori's feelings in a heartbeat, he has a strong reason to be wary of older girls, and we can't completely forget that Otori had been lying to him the entire time. This certainly triggered a red flag for him, making him even more distrustful of her than if she had been honest with him from the start. I don't think he was wrong to want to start off with friends with this in mind. He's cautious of her, and while he admits that simply being older than him shouldn't be as much of a problem as he thought (due to his sisters), it was probably hard for him to fully commit to a relationship with someone who had been lying to him from the start. And now, once he decides to cast aside his doubts and work out his trauma with someone he feels be might actually like... he finds out about her stalker-like nature. Poor boy can't catch a break. Whether a lolicon by nature or by circumstance, he has my sympathy. |
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| The only girl I like in this series is Sayuki. The MC is edgy, and so is 'Shoma' |
| Shoma is such an ass for turning her down for being older. I was expecting for Koharu to like Keiki lmao |
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Shirai-chan said: Nah, in the LN Shoma is such an ass for turning her down for being older. I was expecting for Koharu to like Keiki lmao Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenAug 26, 2019 3:15 PM
| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| This episode was so damn hilarious, i think was the best episode until now! Otomi is really cute and beautifull! Shouma is stupid for recusing her, what is his problem about she being older than him! Double date was awesome, so crazy ideas! Last scene was awesome,, Keiki flaming Shouma with Otomi! Shouma reaction after turning the lights on was priceless! |
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| What the.... His definition of "Loli/Lolicon" is distorted. To be a loli the age does NOT matter as long as the girl has loli physical characteristics. Anyway, I know I shouldnt take this for seriously compared to animes focused in romance, but I confess that he rejecting her was disappointing also considering how much she liked him. The "let's start with being friends" makes it worse in my opinion but oh well... it's such a common thing seeing that statement but I still can't get used/accept it because I see it as a lame excuse to be used to patch things up whenever you reject someone. |
Vi-Sep 24, 2019 12:31 PM
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| This has been the only wholesome character relationship in the show and it was still some A tier anime bullshit; I love it. And I think this entire arc was a long ass build-up for the punchline at the end. This entire arc was a series of punchlines. lemme just say one more time that this localization is so fucking good. I suspect the dub is responsible for 95% of my enjoyment of this show and this would be some boring WeirdChamp degeneracy subbed. |
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| Well, this episode is going too wholesome for this show.. I expect it ending in some disappointing way, as usual.. ;p Yep, Shouma just not accepting Koharu "just because he's lolicon".. ;p As expected, it ends disappointing in this show, I'm not even surprised.. It's the bad thing, in this show.. All characters are too rigid in their perversion, and can't become anything more.. I don't like, how characters are written.. Comedy itself is alright, but characters aren't that great.. It is a possibility that some people can act in one way, but really all the characters in this show act on the "law of perversion", their only kink is being their whole personality.. It's alright, if it's one or two characters.. But this show is only this.. And, thinking about this.. I guess, in other anime it's also like that.. Just in another direction.. Right?.. I mean, if it'd be just normal romantic comedy, not perverted one.. Wouldn't characters be rigid, following same "rules" and "views" of what romance is supposed to be, how they need to act?.. If to think about it, other shows aren't objectively any better.. But key word is "objectively" - no matter, how I try, I can't objectively say that these characters are worse than any other, really.. As majority of characters are following some kind of rigid rules most of the time.. Be it some girl archetype, or shounen protagonist, or whatever.. But I can subjectively say that I don't really like that characters don't go beyond their kinks, really.. Though, someone could like that, and it'd be perfectly fine, really.. In the end, yeah, this thing is just not to my taste.. Though, I like show's comedy and variety of kinks, I guess.. And dislike that characters don't go beyond kinks, and the derpy drawn angles and proportions.. So far, I both have things I like and dislike in anime.. Maybe I'd rate it around 7, for now.. Close to average score it has now, actually.. |
| Shoma you idiot. Koharu would be the perfect girl to date, eternal loli all the way.... |
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