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| I hate this Goku vs Kefla fight. It's demostrating all the inconsistencies of the show. 2 super saiyans fused with potara earings defeating a saiyan with the power of a god in super saiyan form adding the kaioken. |
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| So he went from near-death condition to Ultra Instinct again in 6 minutes. If he can recover this fast while fighting, why even bother saving stamina at the start of the tournament? |
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| Hey, it's amazing to see Goku waking up the Migatte No Gokui for the second time, apart from that, we also saw how he defends his sister that did surprise me a little. |
| What is everyone expecting from the animation?? Lmao. This is a running series of over 100 episodes, don't get spoiled by an episode or two of great animation. This is Toei too.. Being delusional and having unrealistic expectations is an understatement. This is why I don't come to DBS threads anymore.. Really cool episode, would have liked to see them explore Potara more. |
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| ok loving these fights..nice and getting more intense as the episodes progress |
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| The whole episode was dog shit, until the last 2 minutes. |
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| I enjoyed the fight so far. As a lot of people mentioned it's obvious that power scaling isn't existent in DBS. Even the fusion of Kale and Caulifla shouldn't be able to keep up with Goku Blue + Kaioken. I also like the scene of 18 and 17, especially when 17 blasted that power ranger away :D Freezer also enjoying the fight between the saiyans. And damn Gokus transformation into Ultra Instinct was again so sick. I love this form so much. Gokus looks like a beast. That cliffhanger was pretty mean. I don't want to wait a whole week >.< |
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| oh great the Ultra Instinct mode again |
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Rei366 said: Floyd said: See Toriyama? It wasn't that hard to draw female super saiyajins I don't think he ever got the occasion to draw one, since he had to use male heroes to "connect" with the readers. Also, those saiyajin created for this series have a peculiar drawing style/physical build to begin with (you know, this bean tree figure) Probably. One thing I noticed is that Kefla lacks the serious expression SSJs have, as if it were the mastered SSJs from DBZ. It changes a lot from her base form's expression. Do you think it was done like that to give her a "girly" face? :P |
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| This was an alright episode, I guess, it was pretty underwhelming. Vegeta vs Toppo continues to be underwhelming, Vegeta is paying way too much attention to Goku and it's really hurting the credibility of his and Toppo's fight. On the other hand, Gohan and Piccolo vs the Universe 6 Namekians was pretty cool. The scene was a bit too short but at the very least they're focusing on their own fught. The scene with Katosepia and the Androids was weird, 18 was randomly hurt and they really seemed to be trying to push that the Androids didn't get along all that well, the fact that they're practically been tied to the hip since the tournament started and are sure to work together again really does nothing to help play up any sort of tension between them. SSB Goku put up a lot better a fight than I expected him to, SSB has lost so much luster that I expected a straight up stomp especially when base Kefla was flexing SSG but he held his own pretty well against SSJ Kefla. Speaking of which the spectators referring to them by their transformations was really awkward. The Kaioken should have ran out while fighting Kefla, that would have really helped push the whole lack of stamina thing more. I like SSJ Kefla's design but the change in eye shape is kinda weird. Kefla's personality atm is pretty unimpressive. Like Gotenks she comes off as an amplified version of one of her fusees. I prefer Kale over Caulifla so Kefla being a boosted Caulifla in terms of personality really doesn't really help her much. I'm hoping next week's episode is better for her in terms of characterization because she so far she feels pretty lacking for a fusion, she has none of the wackiness that differentiated Gotenks from his fusees nor the straight up dominance that Vegito had. The spectators hyped up the fight between Goku and Kefla too much and with the action not really having as much weight as Goku vs Jiren's fight, it made the action and overall scenes revolving around them feel less impressive, especially when they stressed how fatigued Goku was so Kefla knocking out SSB Kaioken Goku didn't really feel as impressive as it probably should have. Tanbad_Bravery said: Stamina issues are nothing,who remembers gohan vs cell,when gohan was in ssj1 cell rekt him to the point that he looks tired an worn out or smtg,then when he unleashed ssj2 he seem like he wasn't even fighting,yes he was bruised up,but that's besides the point what I'm tryna make here.....Am I the only 1 thinking about that? Gohan wasn't fatigued, he barely exerted himself before going SSJ2, he wasn't fighting back and in the first place took no real damage from any of Cell's attacks other than a few cuts and bruises which barely seems comparable to Goku's situation. Goku vs Frieza is a more apt comparison. |
GolenKenNov 13, 2017 2:38 PM
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| And who would guess? Kefla is fucked up. Next episode gonna be conclusion of this match. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
FrozenRaider said: And who would guess? Kefla is fucked up. Next episode gonna be conclusion of this match. Unless she asspulls SSJ3 (or Blue) at the end of the episode and we get another cliffhanger lol. |
| Goku in blue should have been able to beat Kelfa, Ultra Instinct should have been saved for Jiren. Well that's that...hopefully the next episode is good. |
killerimpactNov 14, 2017 10:11 AM
| @Floyd Oh my... English people actually came up with a name for that "thing" (who is'nt even its own thing). Thanks for more "DBUS knowledge" xD I noticed the thing and simply brushed it away: for me, it was either 1°) "I'm not sure we should give her the angry/serious glare makeover, since it wouldn't mesh well with a girl's face." 2°) "What? SSJ have a serious face?" or more probably 3°) "It's all part of this special new design decided for parallel universe Saiyajins" (but they didn't came up with the idea of removing the glare before now). Also, when you need to make those characters act lightly, you just can't use the angry look: it looks wrong. (at least for me) Sorry for the late answer, I'm available only at the end of the week. ^^" |
| Who was that random narrator guy in the beginning? And the fight just felt off for me in this episode. There was so much plot armor used that I doubt Goku could be defeated by anything or anyone at this point, because anytime someone gets close he puts on this "Ultra Instinct" form. It's like they caught on that changing hair color was dated, and now they've switched it to eyes. |
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| I really like how they animate Goku movements in his Ultra form... |
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| Oh yeah, Ultra Instinct is back. I just hope that Kefla is not in the same level that Goku UI, it would be a completely bullshit. |
| PLUSSSSSSSSSSS ULTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! |
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| Tch, I wanted to see how Kefla would have fair against Jeren. |
MaxCrazy7 said: Tch, I wanted to see how Kefla would have fair against Jeren. Nigga bitch ass you too late. 115 came long back. |
| Wow, I didn't expect so fast the Ultra Instict again. Kefla is overpowered but Goku hasn't recovered yet otherwise he would defeat her with his Blue form. Next episode will be epic. :D |
| Goku wakes up the ultra-instinct one more time against Kafla in a fight very, very , very boring!!! I continued saying the same, Where is the Battle Royale? |
| DBS is really wearing on me with how stupid it is. It's simply preposterous, and insulting to itself with how ridiculous these situations are. Power levels and transformations mean literally nothing anymore. You're telling me a guy that has been training his entire life under a number of martial arts masters, mastered the super saiyan form, attained godhood, and learned to combine their powers to incredible heights, is bested by some hooligan that just learned how to turn into a super saiyan yesterday? It reeks of plot armor and contrived characters. I feel like I'm watching a fan-made parody. |
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| Kefla sends Goku flying. Zen-chan thinks gattai is amazing. Gattai! Gattai! Gattai! Gattai is legal. Vegeta gets grabbed by Top. Gohan and Piccolo are fighting. Gohan protected Piccolo. lol at 35-san. Potara's got crushed. 18's leg. 17 protected 18. Goku goes SSGSS. Kefla goes SSJ. Oh snap! The insert song is back! No vocals. Jiren twitches. Kaio-ken! Freeza will watch until the end. Dat abortion punch. LMAO at Champa. Ha!!!! Goku got his from behind. He's down and back to normal. Goku gets back up. He can't even open his eyes. Kefla attacks. Dat theme. HOLY SHIT! Goku goes MnG! 19 minutes left. Dat ending. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| Goku goes Ultra Instinct again. |
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| OK Goku finally gained his stamina back and turned ssjgod blue during the fight with Kefla *shock* and fights seriously but I have a feeling that he's not. I get the feeling that he was just fighting back in order to see Kefla's full potential. That Goku is surely 100% saiyan after all! He gained Ultra Instict in the end as a surpise, I was sure that he was trolling all this time and just gained his stamina back 100%, He never fails to amuse me! That form is so badass he's insanely fast! PLUS Gohan fights like a genious, too! yes!!!!!!! <3 I love his fight scenes in this tournament he got to a much higher level drastically after the practice he had with Piccolo and Goku! So cool! I'm proud :P The scene where Goku opens his eyes looking at Kefla.. omg the girls are going to lose in seconds ! CANT WAIT ! |
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| best episode in the anime. |
| Goku surpassing his own limits again. He's gone Ultra Instinct twice. |
| While it’s a bit hard to believe Goku in Super Saiyan God and Blue is being beat by Kefla in regular Super Saiyan, it was pretty fun to watch (also excusing the mid art and animation lol), the use of that ost when Goku first fought Jiren was cool too, only it’s an instrumental version of it this time. One thing to remember tho, this is all supposed to be a Goku that’s not at full strength, so I guess I can get why Kefla would be putting up such a fight, and I can’t deny she’s pretty cool lol, I like her more than Caulifla and Kale separated, it doesn’t save the way they’re written by any means but I think the fusion is cool. But what’s even more of an asspull than Kefla being able to beat Blue (minus the fact Kale ate a Kamehameha from Blue a while back) is that Goku was able to go Ultra Instinct again despite being in a rough state after being kicked by Kefla, we still don’t know fully how the form works but yeah it does seem a bit off that he can just do that lol, but I am happy to see the form again and look forward to seeing how this fight finishes next episode, assuming it’s over in the next one lol. Also yeah there ya go again, the Zenos like the fusion so the ear rings are allowed, the rules are quite bendable in this tournament, unless you’re Frost lol. |
| Ultra Instinct feels like a cop out for the writers. It doesn't feel earned or even interesting. This fight is intense but boring. It's just each side getting stronger and stronger with really no sense to it. It extends way beyond even Dragon Ball Z in terms of the intense power jumps and has little to no context to it (other than basically the audience hasn't seen this power before). Kefla seems way overpowered and bizarre. I'm excited for this duel to be over. |
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