JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze Episode 27 Discussion

Apr 19, 2019 4:19 PM

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PedroBV96 said:
In an attempt to chew a little more time for the episode, they threw in a flashback that adds absolutely nothing. And of course, like some of the characters in Akame Ga Kill, the episode they throw in a flashback focusing on Risotto is the episode he dies.

Oh man. First the razor blades in his throat, some others on his head, and the boss is still able to talk normally and mocking Aerosmith? YEEEES, PLOT-ARMOOOOR.

Aaaand every week he's here to fulfill the dumbass-post-of-the-week quota, it's almost admirable.
Edit: Why do you guys keep responding to him? He's a troll, you're only feeding him by giving him attention.

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Apr 19, 2019 4:20 PM

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WorldoverHeaven said:

What plot armor happened in this episode risotto was just outsmarted by doppio its you who likes to nitpick everything then claim its plot armor im done with you i wont respond tou your coments goodnight

No he wasn't. Risotto just made the idiot playing like Iluso. And if you that quiting a scisor from your throat, and having razor blades spreading in your head and still be able to speak normally is not plot-armor, then you proooved to have no idea of how much plot-armor this part has.

Apr 19, 2019 4:21 PM

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R3K_ said:

Cyborg_Icarus29 said:

It just works. JoJo is filled with ridiculous bullshit but it's entertaining af so most people don't really care about most "araki forgot" moments.

Don't feed the weekly troll.

Amazing episode, btw. They did justice to my favorite fight from this Part. Based DP.
My only complain is that they cut some of Risotto's lines thinking about Bucciaratti and the gang.

I think them removing that line actually worked better in the anime's favor. Risotto saying he was going to kill Buccellati's group doesn't make sense, remember, as Prosciutto said, an Assassin never says he's going to kill his opponent because by that point the job should already be done.

Apr 19, 2019 4:37 PM

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another great episode, and probably one of the most violent to date
they did a great job with this fight, I was worried they would hold back too much but they really didn't

Apr 19, 2019 4:39 PM

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wow Risotto was so damn close to killing the boss.

Fight was gory as hell, was constantly looking over my shoulder because my dad was dozing in the background and he might notice all that blood lol

This is not your planet to rule. The Fallen shall rise again.

Apr 19, 2019 4:39 PM

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PedroBV96 said:

WorldoverHeaven said:

What plot armor happened in this episode risotto was just outsmarted by doppio its you who likes to nitpick everything then claim its plot armor im done with you i wont respond tou your coments goodnight

No he wasn't. Risotto just made the idiot playing like Iluso. And if you that quiting a scisor from your throat, and having razor blades spreading in your head and still be able to speak normally is not plot-armor, then you proooved to have no idea of how much plot-armor this part has.

i actually agree with you how is doppio still able to talk?he could not breath why is he Alive?his head lmao i don't understand but whatever

Apr 19, 2019 4:45 PM

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I remember Jotaro surviving a dozen or so knives piercing his skin, while also stopping his heart from beating for a good minute without losing consciousness. As for Joseph, he survived a volcanic eruption. Jonathan survived his limbs being frozen multiple times. Not that there's anything wrong with accumulating these injuries, it's just there because the rule of cool.

And don't forget Stroheim surviving a bomb at point-blank range. And in this part we have the following:
- Surviving a shootout with none of the enemy bullets touching you (Mista).
- Surviving a virus that after infecting your body in 30 seconds kills you, having it for about 5 minutes (Giorno)
- Being shot three times in the head and taking out the bullets, remaining in that state for more than 10 minutes, and recover completely out-of-screen (Mista)
- Being pierced by a punch, cracked by a karate-like blow, and still be able to move quite normal (Bruno). PD: Kakyoin suffered the same, and he died after making his last effort.
- Being bitten in the throat and still be able to talk (Narancia).
- Having razorblades going through your throat, quiting a scisor with your hand, having bigger razorblades in your head, and still be able to talk normal (Doppio)

Apr 19, 2019 4:50 PM

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The truth I can't believe it, the tremendous way to ruin everything. I love them but I felt they were useless, just when Risotto had victory in his hands, Narancia appears without even finding out something and kills him ...................... ....................................... He even gave me anger, because he did not appeared before? But of course, he just finds it when Doppio is almost dead ... indignation T_T And well, Risotto could not take all the glory, Giorno's group has to kill him haha

Anyway, it's so unexpected, I liked it a lot.

Sorry about my english hahaha u.u

Apr 19, 2019 5:12 PM

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Modernoir said:

R3K_ said:

Don't feed the weekly troll.

Amazing episode, btw. They did justice to my favorite fight from this Part. Based DP.
My only complain is that they cut some of Risotto's lines thinking about Bucciaratti and the gang.

I think them removing that line actually worked better in the anime's favor. Risotto saying he was going to kill Buccellati's group doesn't make sense, remember, as Prosciutto said, an Assassin never says he's going to kill his opponent because by that point the job should already be done.

Oh, that's right. I was also talking about when he thinks he should hurry up and go to them to learn what information they're getting, but since he already suspects Doppio to be the boss, he wouldn't need it anymore.

Apr 19, 2019 5:12 PM

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Nycro said:
Narancia was one of my favourite boys now he is my least favourite.
5/5 episode btw. What annoys me though is that the damage on Doppio is barely visible. So many terrible things happend to him yet he still looks okay.

yeah it does kind of feel like he got sliced up to high hell but only looked like he got a few cuts on his cheek overall.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 19, 2019 5:18 PM

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What an intense episode, out of all the moments for Aerosmith to actually help it does something when the world needs it the less.

Apr 19, 2019 6:44 PM

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This was awesome. i watched this with some people who had only seen a couple episodes of part 5 here and there. I want to get one of those live reaction people to watch just this episode. Zero context.

Apr 19, 2019 7:27 PM

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That boss is cunning, true villain style. I wouldn't have thought he would use Narancia's Lil bomber to kill Risotto, that was evil genius at work. No wonder he is the boss of a mafia.

The dude is so incredible that he was able to run the organization without ever been seen, even that old man killed himself for him without seeing him. He is the best villain I've ever seen in my anime history.

How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove

Apr 19, 2019 7:36 PM

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When are you people gonna learn to stop arguing with that dumbass. He pulls the same crap every week for attention, he even admitted so in this very thread, just stop responding to him.

It was nice to see La Squadra again, but the flashback was sort of just there to be honest. But it was really quick at least, so not a big deal.

That might be the most impressive fight in JoJo to date in terms of a complete package - direction/animation/character art/color design. If not, it's for sure top 3. It's definitely the goriest, and they barely censored anything apart from Risotto's leg. Probably my favorite episode of the part thus far, that was great. I just hope the last couple of fights can receive similar treatment.

GrimmgetaApr 19, 2019 7:45 PM

Apr 19, 2019 8:05 PM

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my heartbeats accelerated a lot in the final scenes, i love this anime soo much!
problaby the best ep so far.

Apr 19, 2019 8:07 PM

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Damn this episode is so intense. There so many blood too just like the manga I love it .

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Apr 19, 2019 8:44 PM

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Darius said:
Wtf? Am I actually going to say it?

Vento Aureo might very well be the best JoJo series...

Perhaps even better than Stardust Crusaders...?

Oh, I don't know about that... but Vento Aureo is really good.

People who say this haven't read Steel Ball Run

Apr 19, 2019 9:01 PM

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lihle808 said:
Lil bomber

It's called Aerosmith. Lil bomber is just a shitty localization lol.

Apr 19, 2019 9:10 PM

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Pakumen- said:

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Also I'm a little confused on Epitaph (Eulogy)'s ability. From what i'm gathering, Bossu's Epitaph lets him see 10 seconds of the target's movements, but Doppio's lets him see an unchangeable future of whatever he experiences then?

From my understanding:

Epitaph let you see the future, basically. It is just a premonition of what kt is going to happen (the main reason of Bossu's "invincibility) however, King Crimson let you change that future because you are erasing it, doing something in the middle while time is passing it, and then cut it to your favor.

So let's put it simpler: You have edited a video and you know what is going to happen in 10 seconds (epitaph), you don't like it, so you use King Crmson to delete that and just leave the result of what you did (erase the leap).

Also I am sorry if my explanation was bad, but there is going to be more KC bullshit in the future.

Ah, thanks. Great explanation, imo.

Apr 19, 2019 9:55 PM

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For fucks sake Narancia. What if that was just a granny passing by huh?

Apr 19, 2019 9:56 PM

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papsoshea said:
Risotto's Metallica is OP he nearly won. Great episode but it didn't have that classic JoJo tension - probably because we've not seen enough from Risotto to care but I just think the Boss doesn't hold a candle (well, yet) to Yoshikage Kira, when Kira first appeared, shit got real. Kira has that charisma and swagger about him, he brings an intense presence on screen, like Dio. I haven't got that feeling from the Boss yet.

Interesting take, as I feel we got that from him in his fight against Bruno and everything that happened there. Bruno would be dead right now if not for Giorno. The boss' stand, to me anyway, is more intimidating than Kira's initially was(before he got Bites the Dust). Plus we've seen what he does to his subordinates who cross him (Sorbet and Gelato in episode 10).

Apr 19, 2019 10:17 PM

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This part is already the best part already.

Apr 20, 2019 12:16 AM

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PedroBV96 said:
In an attempt to chew a little more time for the episode, they threw in a flashback that adds absolutely nothing. And of course, like some of the characters in Akame Ga Kill, the episode they throw in a flashback focusing on Risotto is the episode he dies.

Oh man. First the razor blades in his throat, some others on his head, and the boss is still able to talk normally and mocking Aerosmith? YEEEES, PLOT-ARMOOOOR.

I feel like you have the wrong mindset when watching JoJo, or maybe JoJo just isn’t something you should watch.
If plot armor and plot holes make you feel this bad, then I’ll tell you: every single part in JoJo has plot armor and holes, like Joseph surviving the Divine Sandstorm and falling down from space almost, Jotaro stopping his heart, having magazines in his clothes to stop knives, resurrecting Joseph, Josuke fixing a kid who literally exploded and they will continue in future parts.

You should approach JoJo with a ”that’s bullshit but I believe it” mindset, and not take it too seriously. It’s the same thing with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, if you’re just thinking ”it’s impossible to move giant robots with the energy of some weird spiral power which doesn’t even exist, lol plot hole” then you probably won’t enjoy it.

Also, you’re clearly bitching here after every episode only to get attention and cause confusion and anger. You’re (probably) a grown up man so do what you do I can’t stop you, but please, if you don’t have anything to bring to the discussions other than trolling, don’t comment anything.

Apr 20, 2019 12:18 AM

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Narancia, WHY???? He's now my least favorite in the group.
RIP Risotto, I honestly wanted to see more of him. T_T
I really like his character design and he's cool.

Apr 20, 2019 12:39 AM

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Narancia you idiot!!! WHYY?!
Risotto was so cool, I wanted to see more of him :(

On another note this episode is probably one of the best episodes of JoJo ever! The OST was just brilliant, David Pro and JoJo just continues to impress!

Apr 20, 2019 1:27 AM

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Hands down , the best fight in this season . LOVED IT!

Apr 20, 2019 1:28 AM

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Zoe-Ichigo said:
The truth I can't believe it, the tremendous way to ruin everything. I love them but I felt they were useless, just when Risotto had victory in his hands, Narancia appears without even finding out something and kills him ...................... ....................................... He even gave me anger, because he did not appeared before? But of course, he just finds it when Doppio is almost dead ... indignation T_T And well, Risotto could not take all the glory, Giorno's group has to kill him haha

Anyway, it's so unexpected, I liked it a lot.

Dude what are you talking about? Go rewatch the episode. The boss thrown 3 scalpels at the Bucciaratti gang so they thought there was an enemy nearby. That is why Aerosmith notice Risotto and kill the guy since he is the only breathing human in that area.

Apr 20, 2019 1:30 AM

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That was definitely the best episode of Golden Wind yet!!! The amount of levels of strategy going on there by the end was insane, the way all the different abilities linked together so that the outcome Doppio saw still came true was so cool! The voice acting for Doppio is amazing and it was really refreshing seeing 2 enemies fight each other rather than Giorno/ Gio Bros fighting one of x many assasins.

Apr 20, 2019 1:58 AM

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Narancia, you stupid bastard!

Apr 20, 2019 2:06 AM

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Tis' not fair la.
Nero was this fucking close to hitting the nail (100% not a pun)
Anyways...
Squad>Queer gang

Apr 20, 2019 2:11 AM

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Supersonic_speed said:

PedroBV96 said:
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I feel like you have the wrong mindset when watching JoJo, or maybe JoJo just isn’t something you should watch.
If plot armor and plot holes make you feel this bad, then I’ll tell you: every single part in JoJo has plot armor and holes, like Joseph surviving the Divine Sandstorm and falling down from space almost, Jotaro stopping his heart, having magazines in his clothes to stop knives, resurrecting Joseph, Josuke fixing a kid who literally exploded and they will continue in future parts.

You should approach JoJo with a ”that’s bullshit but I believe it” mindset, and not take it too seriously. It’s the same thing with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, if you’re just thinking ”it’s impossible to move giant robots with the energy of some weird spiral power which doesn’t even exist, lol plot hole” then you probably won’t enjoy it.

Also, you’re clearly bitching here after every episode only to get attention and cause confusion and anger. You’re (probably) a grown up man so do what you do I can’t stop you, but please, if you don’t have anything to bring to the discussions other than trolling, don’t comment anything.

ok i think you dont know what plot holes are fans like you are worst then trols the only plot holes in your statment are jotaro reviving joseph and joseph surviving the crash everything else is fine dont pretend that you are smart jojo dosent have many plot holes its just people like you that dont pay antention to anything think that everything in jojo is a plot hole

Apr 20, 2019 2:23 AM

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Thread cleaned

Please keep it civil, even if your opinions wary.

As another reminder, double posting is frowned upon - please edit your previous post instead.

Apr 20, 2019 3:14 AM

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anikevin said:
For fucks sake Narancia. What if that was just a granny passing by huh?

I Think grannies don't throw 3 knives at a group of young people passing by.
The Final move of the Boss just nailed risotto to his coffin

Apr 20, 2019 3:28 AM

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this fight was intense and i love everything about the fight, however it didnt last long
i was hoping the fight will span atleast 2 eps, but it seems all good things must come to a swift end.../
Jojo fights are really great, i dont know what will i do when this part 5 ends.
i guess ill just continue with the manga. although it wont be the same as experiencing it as anime.

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Apr 20, 2019 3:44 AM

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Supersonic_speed said:

I feel like you have the wrong mindset when watching JoJo, or maybe JoJo just isn’t something you should watch.
If plot armor and plot holes make you feel this bad, then I’ll tell you: every single part in JoJo has plot armor and holes, like Joseph surviving the Divine Sandstorm and falling down from space almost, Jotaro stopping his heart, having magazines in his clothes to stop knives, resurrecting Joseph, Josuke fixing a kid who literally exploded and they will continue in future parts.

You should approach JoJo with a ”that’s bullshit but I believe it” mindset, and not take it too seriously. It’s the same thing with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, if you’re just thinking ”it’s impossible to move giant robots with the energy of some weird spiral power which doesn’t even exist, lol plot hole” then you probably won’t enjoy it.

Since when flashbacks that are misplaced and doesn't add anything new are plot-holes? And if you think that the instances of plot-armor in this part can be excused as rule of cool, you're wrong, because the characters are certainly not cool on their own. And because of the pacing and the akward presentation, you can't care about them when they die.

Supersonic_speed said:

Also, you’re clearly bitching here after every episode only to get attention and cause confusion and anger. You’re (probably) a grown up man so do what you do I can’t stop you, but please, if you don’t have anything to bring to the discussions other than trolling, don’t comment anything.

No, I'm doing the exact same thing as the rest here, sharing my views, that unlike most, are triggering people to reply me.

Apr 20, 2019 3:56 AM

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JeXxTaR said:

with that logic the entire buccellati's gang should be dead at this point.

Not necessarily. It was a simple analogy that came to me when I remembered some main characters of Akame Ga Kill as Bulat and Sheelee, who in the episode that a flashback of them is presented is the episode in which they die. It's a trick used to make you retroactively care for the character. But here it won't work because Risotto didn't have a decent amout of focus on him as a character. And by the way, Bruno technically is the one who should be dead.

JeXxTaR said:

the boss can increase his musculature, his body isn't exactly normal.

But he can't increase the muscles of his throat and head, because it would be weird that he didn't do it if he was able to do it. And it still doesn't excuse how is he able to speak normal, because Risotto's ability use the iron on your blood.

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Apr 20, 2019 4:26 AM

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Well ya can't blame Narancia for this, they expected only the boss to be there.

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Apr 20, 2019 4:45 AM

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EVA-Souls said:

Darius said:
Wtf? Am I actually going to say it?

Vento Aureo might very well be the best JoJo series...

Perhaps even better than Stardust Crusaders...?

Oh, I don't know about that... but Vento Aureo is really good.

People who say this haven't read Steel Ball Run

People who say this haven't read JoJolion.
All jokes aside, DP animating the Rohan OVA's to get practice at the later styles gives me so much hope we're going to get a complete-series adaptation.

Also please guys, stop responding to the troll.

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Apr 20, 2019 8:50 AM

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anikevin said:
For fucks sake Narancia. What if that was just a granny passing by huh?

Knives where thrown at the the boys thus they thought an enemy stand user was attacking them. To be fair I also didn't get it the first time I watched it.

Apr 20, 2019 9:18 AM

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ok so he was the boss.. how does he house two personalities anyway

Apr 20, 2019 9:35 AM

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Ulquiorra said:
OMG!!!!
This fight was brutal!
I'm not sure if Risotto would have won because King Crimson was on the way.

Considering that The Boss' only move was throwing a scalpel at Bruno, I don't think there's anything he could've done.

Especially given that Doppio couldn't even move anymore.

Apr 20, 2019 9:53 AM

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pretty good episode and plot armor hits again

Apr 20, 2019 10:10 AM

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Damn it I really liked Risotto RIP ;_; Thanks for the biology lesson too. I certainly didn't expect him to die by Aerosmith, of all things. Volare via

This fight had me hooked. I'm glad Doppio is okay I mean so many things happened to him due to Metallica and he's still alive. Still can't get enough of the Boss's voice lol it's so majestic and imposing

Apr 20, 2019 10:20 AM

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This episode is perfection. Possibly the best episode in all of jojo

Apr 20, 2019 10:21 AM

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killerqueen2000 said:
This episode is perfection. Possibly the best episode in all of jojo

killer queen has already touched the episode

Apr 20, 2019 10:38 AM

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Risotto was a likeable character. Smart, calculated, ruthless, and great design and Stand.
He deduced quite fast that Doppio was the Boss.

Didn't like his end though. Great episode nonetheless.

Apr 20, 2019 11:40 AM

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anikevin said:
For fucks sake Narancia. What if that was just a granny passing by huh?

A granny passing by who launched knives at them?

Apr 20, 2019 1:19 PM

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Man that was one hell of a gambit orchestrated by the Boss.

Certainly shows why he's top dog.

I used to be a watchmaker.

Apr 20, 2019 1:24 PM

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EVA-Souls said:

Darius said:
Wtf? Am I actually going to say it?

Vento Aureo might very well be the best JoJo series...

Perhaps even better than Stardust Crusaders...?

Oh, I don't know about that... but Vento Aureo is really good.

People who say this haven't read Steel Ball Run

I haven't read any
Talking about animated

Apr 20, 2019 1:37 PM

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Ljw said:

anikevin said:
For fucks sake Narancia. What if that was just a granny passing by huh?

A granny passing by who launched knives at them?

Yea, people who are angry/frustrated with Narancia: he shot down a guy who, from their perspective, was an enemy who tried to kill them (and would've probably tried it later too).
Narancia did nothing wrong.

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