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Jan 30, 2019 10:35 AM
#101
After the directional flip flop the previous episode was, I prayed this one would not give me reason to lament my time. And, somewhere, my prayers were answered. An exemplary episode, even though not packed with action, succeeding in every direction. The episode was rife with details connecting it to other episodes and the world building. Every frame had a meaning, the psychological "inner" world and the way they conveyed it is praiseworthy... Now, I wish the series ended on this note because I fear I might not like where it is heading and I will shut it here. Mattinator95 said: FreezePeach said: anesubt said: Are we forgetting that ALL THE HEROES except the shield KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME AND ITS STORY but somehow forgot all about the manipulating King and Princess, was that something just so conveniently left out of their games/book? They always know about everything but then don't when it matters. This is going to be the most glaring tragedy of whatever story theyre trying to build. We seen Naofumi reading the book, he didn't read about the princess, he seen her picture and thought "nah, that can't be the princess". What other heroes know about it is unknown. Before starting to cry about "glaring tragedy of story" try to pay attention to the story itself. I thought they said they (think ) are in similar game world with the same old hero summoned to save the world story . I must have missed something You missed a good chunk of correctly presented information. All heroes except Naofumi came from alternative Japans and have all played games that were in a way similar to the new world of their. Naofumi came after touching a book, and he has never seen a game like that. This is a unique origin which surely has a crucial meaning in the context of the whole Legendary Heroes narrative. Mod edit: Posts merged. |
DeadlyRavenJan 31, 2019 7:59 PM
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Jan 30, 2019 10:38 AM
#102
Everyone: "Glad the bad stuff is out of the way, now it's time for good stuff." Me: Well I guess this series is gonna go downhill fast even though it's been amazing so far. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:40 AM
#103
Jan 30, 2019 10:41 AM
#104
Thrashinuva said: Everyone: "Glad the bad stuff is out of the way, now it's time for good stuff." Me: Well I guess this series is gonna go downhill fast even though it's been amazing so far. Ignore the rogue comments, just look at the episode score. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:50 AM
#105
The back and forth of this story. I guess I should say that I'm only watching the show and keeping up with the manga because of the small bright spots. Like Naofumi's character growth and his relationship with his party members. Those parts are amazing! But the stupidity of the antagonists. Its so damn glaring. At the point I am in in the manga the protag can barely focus on the actual villains(what ever is responsible for the waves) because he has to wrangle the other three heroes. There are chapters where you get some reprieve from their stupidity. And chapters that expose the horrors of the world Naofumi was brought to outside of the waves. Like why slavery is even allowed in the country that sponsors them for instance, but then you go back to keeping people too stupid to live alive. There's some good shit buried within the overall story about family, freedom of choice, responsibility and leadership. You just have to stop yourself from punching the screen to get to it. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:51 AM
#106
Tennouji said: People are disliking this arc? Then am I one of the few, if not only one, who is actually liking it so far? My guess is that the people saying that are the ones who read the LN/Manga. So if this is considered the worst part that it could potentially get a whole lot better. At least that is how I interpenetrated what they are saying. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:52 AM
#107
Raphtalia is the Waifu of the year, and whoever disagrees is going to get his ass kicked... lol Real Talk, this episode was amazing, Raphtalia's devotion to Naofumi is really heartwarming, it also seems that Naofumi can feel now. Sometimes its good to let it all out on a vent. I hope that bitch daughter of the king get transported into Goblin Slayer world and get raped by Goblins, she deserves even worse than that tho. |
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Jan 30, 2019 10:52 AM
#108
Tennouji said: People are disliking this arc? Then am I one of the few, if not only one, who is actually liking it so far? The beginning arc and the whole framing business was more or less well done (except that previous episode, awful directing, awful), this episode was a great discourse into personal feelings of the framed and played well with both the world building and characters interaction. Now, look, people disliking the beginning must be almost exclusively the original material readers, as they have something to compare here. I hate them. But even so we can't dismiss each and every one of them as redneck (just 90%) since that would be an impossible thing - for everyone to be wrong when there are only 2 (TWO) options. I personally now have high hopes, if we are to believe that the series is as properly written as this particular episode is directed. But we must remain an open mind and a challenging heart. And prepare for the bad things. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
DeadlyRavenJan 31, 2019 7:50 PM
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Jan 30, 2019 10:56 AM
#110
Man I sure hope that bitch Malty and the bastard King get dealt with soon, still it was nice to see Naofumi owning spear "hero". "Curse series"...that sounds like it'd be pretty op. Best girl Raphtalia saves the day <3 Good that she's there for Naofumi and now he can actually taste food! A shame there was no kiss. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:56 AM
#111
Kilaldagren said: Tennouji said: People are disliking this arc? Then am I one of the few, if not only one, who is actually liking it so far? My guess is that the people saying that are the ones who read the LN/Manga. So if this is considered the worst part that it could potentially get a whole lot better. At least that is how I interpenetrated what they are saying. OR if this is considered the worst part by THEM, things could go quite wrong. |
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Jan 30, 2019 10:56 AM
#112
FreezePeach said: anesubt said: We forgetting nothing, you made it up and now surprised why story doesn't bend according to your weird ideas.Are we forgetting that ALL THE HEROES except the shield KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME AND ITS STORY but somehow forgot all about the manipulating King and Princess, was that something just so conveniently left out of their games/book? They always know about everything but then don't when it matters. This is going to be the most glaring tragedy of whatever story theyre trying to build. We seen Naofumi reading the book, he didn't read about the princess, he seen her picture and thought "nah, that can't be the princess". What other heroes know about it is unknown. Before starting to cry about "glaring tragedy of story" try to pay attention to the story itself. "All the heroes except the shield", so my statement still stands. What the heroes know about it is obviously known or unknown when plot says. Try to pay attention to the story itself. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:57 AM
#113
Infuriating in many ways. I felt completely pulled out of the story when Rapthalia slapped Motoyasu. First she can't speak out because she was immediately gagged, now for some reason they allow her to speak her mind at full length, what?! When following the characters and actions of the princess and the king, after slapping Motoyasu, Raphtalia should've received some sort of immediate retaliation and Naofumi should've endured even more, up to the point where the viewers would flip their desks. For example: Naofumi would be exiled even. Rapthalia eventually manages to leave the city but only finds Naofumi after a few days of searching, void of everything, just wondering blindly. She then begins trying to warm up to him - this is projected from the baseline given, imHo. Another version, Rapthalia is punished by first separating from Naofumi, dragged off to somewhere and secretly the slave curse would be recast to obey some of those nasty royal knights, nothing rapey, but obedience (since Rapthalia would offer quite a bit of resistance). Naofumi is exiled and would forcefully meet Raphtalia during the next wave etc etc... I hate myself for even thinking of this scenario. Ok lets say the royal knights venture out scouting or something in just 2 days after the duel and then etc etc... ah fak, still feels bad in my heart... of course I like the happy ending this episode had but it does not fit what its based on, I'm morally and emotionally OCD. In given episode however, all of a sudden Motoyasu becomes a wimp, Kawasumi and Ren make 180 like it is nothing, maybe 175 because they were showing some angle in ep. 3. But considering that they still thought Naofumi was a rapist, how in the hell would they say anything at all, especially when Ren was mumbling earlier: "I thought he couldn't stoop any lower, but he has". HOWEVER.. perhaps when Kawasumi and Ren see that Naofumi can beat someone 20 lvls higher and they agree that he has the upper hand... they are actually afraid (their faces are mostly emotionless and basically unnecessary, so this could obviously not be read out from their faces), also they are the youngest. As the anime has portrayed them, you can think of many odd reasons why they could flip, but certainly not without an explanation. If the side characters were built and staged a bit less disgusting, perhaps I could've understood this flippity flapity flooping. LN is probably more smooth, but I'm talking about ep 4.. the anime version. |
Fade_Feb 6, 2019 11:58 AM
Jan 30, 2019 10:57 AM
#114
It's not easy to make someone irl hate a character from media, well done, the whole kingdom can burn in hell. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:58 AM
#115
Really liked the match because i didn't expect Naofumi to stand a chance, let alone be able to be on the winning side until Bitch took part in. Then the part with Naofumi cursing everything around him was great as well. But the best part has to be Raphtalia showing how loyal to Naofumi is not just to the Lance guy but to Naofumi himself, who sees how much Raphtalia has matured both in body and soul. At least the Sword and the Bow heroes are less of a douches to Naofumi (tbh, i expected the former to be the biggest douche towards him). |
WILL YOU STOP WHINING!? No I don't understand! You snap at people, you're scary, you tried to eat me, but you're also kind and you're filled with life! You gave me a name when I was a number, you gave me that compass, you taught me what it means to be alive! That's why I care about you Velvet! I'll protect you for my own sake. I don't care if you're malevolent, or if it was pointless! If it's a mistake to love you, then I"ll fight the whole world! A world without you, Velvet, is the one thing I couldn't bear! Eat my arm, just leave me the other one! I need it to clobber the jerk who made my Velvet cry! -Laphicet, Tales of Berseria |
Jan 30, 2019 10:58 AM
#116
It was a good episode, though i'd prefer if they had stayed a little true to the manga. |
Jan 30, 2019 10:58 AM
#117
1carus said: anesubt said: Are we forgetting that ALL THE HEROES except the shield KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME AND ITS STORY but somehow forgot all about the manipulating King and Princess, was that something just so conveniently left out of their games/book? They always know about everything but then don't when it matters. This is going to be the most glaring tragedy of whatever story theyre trying to build. Um I dont think their summoned into the same game they played before...Im not sure but I recall them telling each other the games they played and it was different from each other, I think one played a vr game and one just mmo. Its all the same game but the medium it was presented in was different for each of them. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:00 AM
#118
Its been a really long time since I felt so many emotions in one single episode. Hate, disgust, frustration, sadness, depression, happiness, surprise and finally satisfaction. Easily the best single episode I've seen this season. Had action-packed battle, a lot of politics and drama all in the near perfect amount(atleast for me). The battle was enjoyable with Shieldbro winning over Spearc*ck using his wits. And then finally that moment between Shieldbro and best girl Raphtalia was soo heartwarming <3 He can finally taste food yesss. Ma boi been through a lot. He deserves this much atleast 😊 |
Jan 30, 2019 11:05 AM
#119
Daniel_Naumov said: nina4life said: aa_bumi said: I cant really enjoy this episode, that cursed kingdom need a meteor of justice above their city. not just the king and his family even all royal is rotten. at least, the bow, sword keep their righteousness. something off is why are they being so evil for no reason? threatening people who use slave while legalized slavery (even put a tax on it maybe), victimized a hero who help them? what are they gain? they need 4 hero to face the up coming wave and now they want him dead? See mate, that's exactly what I said after first episode. There is a REAL threat to their whole world, one that will destroy whole kingdom, as in, they die. They actually die, they're not video game characters. And then they treat one of the prophesied heroes, one of the mandatory heroes to succeed in saving their own skins, like the biggest piece of shit. It is so incredibly annoying it's really reducing my enjoyment for the show. As if he's not nerfed enough by not being able to attack and no one wanting to be in his party (another bullshit, but hey), he also has to be constantly treated like shite to hammer the point these people are idiots. Now, some people commented it's only going to get worse and there's actual reason for that. To each his own I guess, I can't really enjoy a show where almost no one has an ounce of brain. It is a series. I should really include a wikipedia exert as my sign... And then what you are hating is not the series but... the way you lack information of why the hero is being abused? You do not even know the reasons yet, yet you are prepared to be annoyed (feeling badly is fine, is proper, as such a behaviour towards anyone is a crime against humanity, and other think the same) and call the series, well, if I were to use a literary language, "incoherent" exactly because you do not understand why it is happening like that? Have you per chance foregone basic development and never heard of such storytelling techniques where the story it set in the middle, and there is a ton of important things happened in the beginning? That are called "revelations" and are explored during the story progression? Or maybe you deny the existence of the concept of context itself? Is it real or is this a fantasy? Mystery does not disguise poor writing to the point your audience is frustrated at the nonsense. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:07 AM
#120
anesubt said: Heroes not knowing about "the manipulating King and Princess" doesn't contradict anything in the story. Their games were not shown. How much attention games paid to royal family is unknown. How much attention heroes paid to this part of the story in the games is unknown. How accurate the games representation of royal family is to the actual world is unknown.FreezePeach said: anesubt said: Are we forgetting that ALL THE HEROES except the shield KNOW ABOUT THIS GAME AND ITS STORY but somehow forgot all about the manipulating King and Princess, was that something just so conveniently left out of their games/book? They always know about everything but then don't when it matters. This is going to be the most glaring tragedy of whatever story theyre trying to build. We seen Naofumi reading the book, he didn't read about the princess, he seen her picture and thought "nah, that can't be the princess". What other heroes know about it is unknown. Before starting to cry about "glaring tragedy of story" try to pay attention to the story itself. "All the heroes except the shield", so my statement still stands. What the heroes know about it is obviously known or unknown when plot says. Try to pay attention to the story itself. This is why your rhetorical question "was that something just so conveniently left out of their games/book?" is ridiculous. First, the answer "yes" is completely valid - the games already proven to be inaccurate. And there are plenty of other reasons for them to know nothing about it. You tried to invent a plot hole but failed miserably. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:08 AM
#121
When will the whore and the spear-wielding cuck be killed already? They're nothing but lying, mischievious scum that should be eradicated. Tell me i can expect their death within the anime adaptation. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:09 AM
#122
I have some questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about uncompatibility of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On the good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season Edit:I missed some things, my bad |
itsnouseJan 30, 2019 11:29 AM
Jan 30, 2019 11:11 AM
#123
I really hate that blond haired spear guy. Am I saying it every episode? Just really hope he suffers a lot. Hope the princess is humiliated, and the king loses his power. They are terrible and ungrateful. I like the grown up Raphtalia. I had a feeling that the two remaining heroes were actually good enough people. While the blond-spear-douche was busy trying to impress the princess, the two other heroes just seemed disgusted by "Naofumi's actions". Now, they have proof of how horrible the king and the princess are. This really makes me want to see the next episode. I am so surprised that I am actually enjoying an Isekai for its story and characters. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:12 AM
#124
itsnouse said: I have sew questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about incompatibleness of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On a good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season 1. The "Wave" that happens has time but not place - they can't just start evacuating the whole world because they don't know where would be a safe place. Heroes on the other hand are instantly teleported to where the Wave hits, so the inability to tell where the hit lands is subverted by in-world mechanics. 2. They can, and they did, as you saw yourself, but they were divided into several parties to make them more effective with supporting characters. It was not anyhow dictated by the rules of the world, but rather they were advised to take others as their entourage. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
DeadlyRavenJan 31, 2019 7:45 PM
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Jan 30, 2019 11:12 AM
#125
Swagernator said: I think they will tone it down after this episode. I really like the everything is going against him angle. This episode felt like an end of an arc so I can see the story moving further forward next episode.The over victimization of our MC is getting pretty overused pretty fast, this is 4th episode and im already sick of it. Like yeah, we got it ... everyone hates him, can we please move on onto something more interesting, please. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:15 AM
#126
iliyanski89 said: Don't know man? Maybe because he is a pussy. Hopefully he will man up in the upcoming episodes. Dude I don't know what you expected the guy to do. Not everyone is an alpha male with balls of steel like yourself, able to shrug off any amount of injustice and discrimination with a confident expression and a flippant middle finger. "I really don't get depression; I think it's the dumbest thing in the world. Like, just be happy, lol." -CinCinBear, 2017 |
Jan 30, 2019 11:16 AM
#127
Aslat24 said: Swagernator said: I think they will tone it down after this episode. I really like the everything is going against him angle. This episode felt like an end of an arc so I can see the story moving further forward next episode.The over victimization of our MC is getting pretty overused pretty fast, this is 4th episode and im already sick of it. Like yeah, we got it ... everyone hates him, can we please move on onto something more interesting, please. That picture... like me walking into these forums each time. The "overvictimization" never happened. It is just a construct of an unhealthy mind. The established framing of the Shield Hero was a part of some plot we don't know yet, which was ultimately foiled by Raphtalia not abandoning Naofumi and by Bow and Sword heroes not going through with the farce they could actually see for themselves. The framing is basically over and, even though most people will still keep on being un-friendly towards the Shield Hero (he was stated to always, throughout his "reincarnations", to be a true friend to demi-humans, which might actually be a relevant clue why human society hates him), but it won't really matter as he is not alone now and others know he is innocent. |
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Jan 30, 2019 11:16 AM
#128
This show still just feels like it's trying hard to defend slavery. As I said last week, there was no logical reason for him NOT to free her already. This episode tried to make everyone else look like bad guys and Naofumi a good guy but sorry, he's still the real bad guy for wanted to keep her as a slave and for (as he admitted) seeing someone as a "tool" and not a person. Then Malty shows her racist side so she's still getting worse, too. Basically Malty and Naofumi are both terrible but the other heroes don't seem too bad,just ignorant of the truth. But the author still seems to be pushing awful messages like "slavery is okay if the slave says so" and the other stuff from earlier episodes. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:17 AM
#129
itsnouse said: I have sew questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about incompatibleness of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On a good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season 1. They knew the time, not the place, what are u gonna do, evacuate the whole world, and where? 2. I think when u say "incompatibleness of the heroes" u mean the fact that they can't level up if they're togheter, but that's it, they just can't level up. They don't gain any experience if they are togheter because their weapons interfere with each other. They can still fight without any issue tho. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:17 AM
#130
SuccHunter said: iliyanski89 said: Don't know man? Maybe because he is a pussy. Hopefully he will man up in the upcoming episodes. Dude I don't know what you expected the guy to do. Not everyone is an alpha male with balls of steel like yourself, able to shrug off any amount of injustice and discrimination with a confident expression and a flippant middle finger. "I really don't get depression; I think it's the dumbest thing in the world. Like, just be happy, lol." -CinCinBear, 2017 If they are expecting to walk into a new series and always see Schwarzenegger with two machineguns solve moral, psychological, philosophical and every other problem including ones you can solve with the mentioned, pity is all I feel in this case. |
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Jan 30, 2019 11:18 AM
#131
Everyone got triggered again in this episode. I do not remember such anime characters that makes me angry like that king and his daughter. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:19 AM
#132
itsnouse said: I have sew questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about incompatibleness of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On a good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season 1. That hourglass is sitting in the capital, where people *were* preparing to fight an invasion, not the village where it looks like nobody had any idea when or where the invasion was going to take place. 2. Did you watch the episode? You saw how the duel was possible yourself, what more do you want?. RE: Them fighting the boss together, at no point was it established they need all 4 heroes to beat the first wave boss, not sure where you got that from. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:19 AM
#133
iliyanski89 said: Chailles said: iliyanski89 said: Cliches, after cliches etc. Sounds like a broken record. Am i suppose to feel something after watching this? Jesus Christ!!!! Is there a show that don't run only on overly used, repeated a thousand times scenes which are supposed to make me feel better or to think like, oh the world is such a hideous place but through the power or friendship and blah blah blah we can overcome this. Bullshit. Its all bullshit!!! High expectations blown out!!! And i thought this show was different. Yet again i assure myself to not have big expectations. Nothing personal though. Just some thoughts. Naofumi is depressed after being humiliated and excommunicated, having his reputation utterly destroyed and what not. Why the hell wouldn't the power of friendship not work here? Don't know man? Maybe because he is a pussy. Hopefully he will man up in the upcoming episodes. Ok so let me get this straight, Naofumi's previous companion, whom he thought he could trust, betrayed him and accused him for raping her, leading everyone in the kingdom to hate him. His reputation was destroyed and had to use whatever money he could use in order to survive. He thought he was about to lose another of his companion to the cuntspear hero. After all that and now you're gonna say, this guy should man up and stop being a pussy. Wow I would like to see you in Naofumi's shoes. |
MehgumanJan 30, 2019 11:22 AM
Jan 30, 2019 11:20 AM
#134
Best episode so far. I like how Naofumi finally thrusts Raphtalia. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:20 AM
#135
Kougeru said: I think he wanted to keep her as a slave so he couldn’t be betrayed again. It had nothing to do with ownership or him wanting power over her. In the first episode he is betrayed so now he has some pretty bad trust issues. He just doesn’t want to be screwed over again.This show still just feels like it's trying hard to defend slavery. As I said last week, there was no logical reason for him NOT to free her already. This episode tried to make everyone else look like bad guys and Naofumi a good guy but sorry, he's still the real bad guy for wanted to keep her as a slave and for (as he admitted) seeing someone as a "tool" and not a person. Then Malty shows her racist side so she's still getting worse, too. Basically Malty and Naofumi are both terrible but the other heroes don't seem too bad,just ignorant of the truth. But the author still seems to be pushing awful messages like "slavery is okay if the slave says so" and the other stuff from earlier episodes. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:21 AM
#136
Tokoya said: Not the whole country my man, just the nobles.Seeing Naofumi wreck the Spear cunt was so satisfying, but of course, that fucking bitch and her fuckboy of a father had to go and piss me the fuck off again I honestly want the entire country to fucking burn and I want that inhumane disgusting bitch of a princess to have every worse thing in the book done to her before meeting a horrible death and I don't give a fuck But I'm glad that at least the sword and bow heroes called them out on their bullshit, there might be hope for their self-righteous asses yet....Also, I'm glad that they managed to wreck the whiners from episode 1 in regards to this show supposedly "gloryfying slavery" But thank god for Raphtalia, she is truly best girl TwT |
Jan 30, 2019 11:21 AM
#137
Isnt tis overexagerrating? You see, tis scene is supposed to be tearful like in manga, now im confused wether the anime or the manga is the real adaptation. The word he wanted to hear is different like 'You didnt do it' |
isaepJan 30, 2019 11:25 AM
Jan 30, 2019 11:22 AM
#139
First ark wrapped up nicely. What makes me want to watch more? 1) The next few volumes of LN are pretty great 2) The animation team is on point, especially for fights 3) Naofumi-Raftalia dynamic is awesome, and gets even better with Firo around What makes me want to watch less? 1. Not a fan of OP/ED here. 2, Bit tired of Naofumi's brand of emo Some answers to the thread: Swagernator said: The over victimization of our MC is getting pretty overused pretty fast, this is 4th episode and im already sick of it. Like yeah, we got it ... everyone hates him, can we please move on onto something more interesting, please. This was the turning point. Also the end of the first novel. Lelouch0202 said: Though I recall that in the WN, he was actually consumed in flames in the real world too by the curse series or maybe it was always in his head. Still only in his head at this point in the story. Mullerio said: This episode was by far the best so far if we get the explanation for this curse thing the shield made after the duel... I don't think we'll really learn in the span of anime. Well, just think of it as holy weapons coming with a Faustian deal. BestJo said: in only 4 episodes this anime did a better job than fairy tail did in 200 episodes. that s how you build a fucking story. Both Phantom Lord and Laxus arks of FT are better than the first ark of TateYusha for damn near everything, except romance (which FT just doesn't do as a rule). I'd say the first ark of TateYusha is overall on par with the first Jellal ark of FT. That's a fact. You may attempt to dispute it, but it is going to be futile :D GrimorumInvoke said: I never read manga and I do not know what will happen in this anime, but I speculate the shield has some sort of curse on it. Someone is purposely victimizing the shield hero to activate the curse. There must be some sort of twist and the puppet master is somehow manipulating the King. If I am right, don't tell me because that would be a spoiler. There is at least three puppet masters behind the king with conflicting agendas (in one case, conflicting with the king himself) and none of them really care about the curse. By novel 16, two of the three are dead. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenJan 31, 2019 7:41 PM
Jan 30, 2019 11:22 AM
#140
Daniel_Naumov said: Aslat24 said: Swagernator said: The over victimization of our MC is getting pretty overused pretty fast, this is 4th episode and im already sick of it. Like yeah, we got it ... everyone hates him, can we please move on onto something more interesting, please. That picture... like me walking into these forums each time. The "overvictimization" never happened. It is just a construct of an unhealthy mind. So because you don't agree with it,you're saying Swagernator has an unhealthy mind? That's extremely dehumanizing and vile. The "overvictimization" is very real anyway. 4 episodes of trying to make me feel bad for a person that proved himself to be a terrible person time and time again is overvictimization. They could've stopped this at the rape accusation but they've gone overboard. He's a victim for sure, but he's got his own share of issues like not freeing Raph when he could've. Supporting the idea of slavery. Saying slaves are not people. Sorry, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because he had awful things happen to him doesn't mean he gets to do awful things but that's exactly what the author seems to think. That's why it's "overvictimization". He's guilty in enough ways to negate the pity I felt for him in episode 1. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:25 AM
#141
Farmaceut said: yup, I suspected from episode 1 he was just some useful idiot and not part of plot by I could not be entirely sure. This episode proves my point. And it mirrors reality: the biggest problem is not evil women but the white knight maginas that support them and attack other men for them.So Spear Hero is just a little bitch controled by Princess Bitch............ |
Jan 30, 2019 11:25 AM
#142
That red head bitch deserved that slap from Raph! I wish to see her getting literally beaten up by someone |
Jan 30, 2019 11:26 AM
#143
isaep said: Isnt tis overexagerrating? You see, tis scene is supposed to be tearful like in manga, now im confused wether the anime or the manga is the real adaptation. The word he wanted to hear is different like 'You didnt do it' It was pretty similar in wording. Anime rarely adapts a manga/LN word for word. She still said she believed in him and believes he would never do what he was accused of...and then she talked about all the things he did for her to give him reassurance on her true feelings. Kougeru said: Daniel_Naumov said: Aslat24 said: Swagernator said: I think they will tone it down after this episode. I really like the everything is going against him angle. This episode felt like an end of an arc so I can see the story moving further forward next episode.The over victimization of our MC is getting pretty overused pretty fast, this is 4th episode and im already sick of it. Like yeah, we got it ... everyone hates him, can we please move on onto something more interesting, please. That picture... like me walking into these forums each time. The "overvictimization" never happened. It is just a construct of an unhealthy mind. So because you don't agree with it,you're saying Swagernator has an unhealthy mind? That's extremely dehumanizing and vile. The "overvictimization" is very real anyway. 4 episodes of trying to make me feel bad for a person that proved himself to be a terrible person time and time again is overvictimization. They could've stopped this at the rape accusation but they've gone overboard. He's a victim for sure, but he's got his own share of issues like not freeing Raph when he could've. Supporting the idea of slavery. Saying slaves are not people. Sorry, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because he had awful things happen to him doesn't mean he gets to do awful things but that's exactly what the author seems to think. That's why it's "overvictimization". He's guilty in enough ways to negate the pity I felt for him in episode 1. Are you going to ignore the fact that him and Raphtalia single handedly saved an entire village and was upset that he didn't know he could transport allies with him...because if he knew that he could have saved even more villagers. Calling Naofumi a terrible person is idiotic at best. The questionable things he has done were a means to and end. He's done far more good than bad. Slavery slavery slavery blahblahblah. It's like you can't think beyond a one-dimensional view of reality. Mod Edit: Merged posts. |
DeadlyRavenJan 31, 2019 7:36 PM
Jan 30, 2019 11:30 AM
#144
Raon said: please don't insult RaphtaliaRaphtalia is the new Rem |
Jan 30, 2019 11:30 AM
#145
vipergod said: anesubt said: vipergod said: Guys just friendly reminder for haters ,its episode 4 already. u can drop this series now if u don't like it, i don't expect to see hate comments from now on! Critics are always fine but comments like "omg worst show ever" "shitty writing full cliche" etc is gonna be so annoying! That's not how life works. People can make hate now, or hate at the end or give their discerning opinion even if its negative. Some people actually continue watching it with some sort of hope it gets better or for mild entertainment and have critiques per episode. It could be descriptive or flatout "show is trash". why thou?are they masochist or something?whats the point of watching it every week and hating it? i don't even start watching shows that im not interested in! as i said having critic is totally fine. but saying that its trash every week is concerning, i don't know if they r just trolling or they really watch something that they hate very week and cry about it! but if its the second case im really concern about their mental health! They're mad cuz this show is getting more attention that their fav and that's their way of working off their anger or smth, I guess? |
Jan 30, 2019 11:32 AM
#146
itsnouse said: I have sew questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about uncompatibility of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On the good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season 1. only the nobles know about the hourglass and the church. Regular people do not know about it 2. Maybe game mechanics to allow them to develop their strength independently? Well no where is said a duel is impossible, just working together. They did not fight together. Also I think during a cataclism they can? |
Jan 30, 2019 11:32 AM
#147
Fade_ said: In given episode however, all of a sudden Motoyasu becomes a wimp, Kawasumi and Ren make 180 like it is nothing, maybe 175 because they were showing some angle in ep. 3. But considering that they still thought Naofumi was a rapist, how in the hell would they say anything at all, especially when Ren was mumbling earlier: "I thought he couldn't stoop any lower, but he has". HOWEVER.. perhaps when Kawasumi and Ren see that Naofumi can beat someone 20 lvls higher and they agree that he has the upper hand... they are actually afraid (their faces are mostly emotionless and basically unnecessary, so this could obviously not be read out from their faces), also they are the youngest. As the anime has portrayed them, you can think of many odd reasons why they could flip, but certainly not without an explanation. If the side characters were built and staged a bit less disgusting, perhaps I could've understood this flippity flapity flooping. LN is probably more smooth, but I'm talking about ep 4.. the anime version. no they changed their mind after they saw the spear hero cheated and no one bat an eye. they hate the shield hero cause they believe him to be a rapist, they didn't frame him. and things will get better between the other heroes and the shield hero, or so i've heard. no the L.N is pretty straight forward too, all the stuff that happened with raphtalia, her disease, night terrors, distrust, were resolved on a matter of 3 days and only about 2 weeks has passed since the shield hero got into this world. 3 at most. so even though everything is described in somewhat details, the story is pretty fast paced idk why. there are more plot holes in this series than you'd think, or in Vol. 1 atleast. i still find this show pretty captivating, and the fast pace might be because there are more interesting stuff to explore, so i think it's too early to judge. and the story wasn't bad so far either. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:34 AM
#148
Man everyone's saying the manga scene was better but the manga scene was making me cringe. "Mentally, i'm still a child, oh mark your proof on me" like seriously thank god the anime is toning down all the weird ass shit. I did like the episode, though. |
Jan 30, 2019 11:35 AM
#149
Excellent episode. Didn't let me down this time. I wonder why the studio didn't use the ED music. It would fit super well. I'm glad they skipped the scene where Naofumi kissed Raphtalia on the cheek. A romance subplot is just out of place and doesn't fit well. |
「ボクは…確かに現実に絶望している。だけど、自分には絶望していない!! 今がつまらないか…楽しいのか…平凡なのか…決めているのは現実じゃない。決めるのはボクだ!!ボクが望めば不可能はない!!」-桂木桂馬 "True, I've given up on the real world. However, I haven't given up on myself!! The world doesn't get to decide whether my life is boring, fun, or ordinary because that's my decision to make!! As long as I have the will, nothing is impossible!!" -Katsuragi Keima |
Jan 30, 2019 11:37 AM
#150
itsnouse said: I have some questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about uncompatibility of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On the good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season Edit:I missed some things, my bad 1. The shit begins at a random place. You cannot evacuate if you don't know where it will happen. 2. I think heroes cannot level up together in a regular basis, but it is okay during the wave |
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