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Oct 4, 2018 7:08 AM
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Holyshit! Rip Zackly, your work of art will be missed. ;( Eren is a full on bad ass now, and he has a cult following, and that Armin scene lol

It seems like there is going to be a Eren, Zeke and levi confrontation soon, so hype for that.

Overall great chapter!
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Oct 4, 2018 11:06 AM
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RIP, Greatest Artist. You and your work shall be remembered.

After so long, we finally learn the truth behind the Ragako mystery. And to be honest gassing the population never really crossed my mind as one of the possibilities.

Things are in motion now, Eren has escaped, bombs are being planted and Warriors seem to have already infiltrated Paradis (at least Pieck did).

Eren putting on a coat facing the sunrise almost looks like it came out of some myth or legend.
Also, his coat looks familiar.
Oct 4, 2018 11:50 AM
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Also, his coat looks familiar.


I wonder about that

Oct 4, 2018 5:53 PM
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Hajime Isayama's comment this month
"The first-half of the anime's 3rd season was the best! For the time being, thank you for all the hardwork!"



Isayama’s Monthly Q&A on Bessatsu Shonen Magazine November's Issue
Q: As for Eren, Reiner, and the others: Do they perceive pain while they are titanized?
A: They will not experience the damage that's inflicted upon the body of their titans, but they will experience pain if it is directly inflicted upon their own bodies



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Oct 4, 2018 6:56 PM
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the political mind games are back like season 3 lol
RIP General Zackley

so the rebels among the military and pradis people supports Eren than for him to be consumed and pass on his titan powers to someone else

and look the Marleys Titans are infiltrating the paradis island too, Pieck is here
Oct 4, 2018 9:24 PM
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It's getting hype and super fired up, I'm really so excited right now!

I got chills when I saw Zackley's torture machine, to think that he wanted to use it on Eren! lmao

Is Levi gonna die next tho?

Because it's clear that Eren wants to join Zeke and execute their plan. Eren's new companions have had their hands dirty already, so if Levi doesn't let Eren do what he wants to do, they will fight for sure!
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Zeke asking about if Levi's popular. Well popularity poll is invaded by Levi fangirls especially back then on season 1.

Zachley met his own demise through his masterpiece, the bomb is set by the followers of Eren. Eren became the messiah of the Eldians. Though it seems like Eren is also being controlled by Zeke, I hope not.

Looks like Armin inherited Bertholdt feelings for Annie. xD

Also, that hoodie seems like the similar to the hoodie guy visiting Historia. Eh... Daddy Eren...hmm... that's too good to be true, but if that's true, I'm glad the ship sailed even with all the conflicts occuring in the series.
Oct 4, 2018 10:45 PM
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Sheesh, things are falling apart with the military. A war with their own people is the last thing they need when Marley could make a move at any moment.
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Oct 4, 2018 11:44 PM
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Fuck all this Eren escaped and he looks damn sexy for all i care. Those packs.

Oct 5, 2018 2:04 AM

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So, Eren's supporters assassinated Zackley. But is Eren being controlled or not? Damn, I really don't know
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I got chills when I saw Zackley's torture machine, to think that he wanted to use it on Eren! lmao


Yeah, that's what I thought too. They really turned on Eren quick.
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Oct 5, 2018 2:05 AM
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I think its amazing how much this story reminds you of WW2 in both a good way and a bad way, especially now that the Eldians considered scum and devils in the eyes of Marleyans were basically gased to ’death’.

Also rip Zachary, i loved how he looked at the chair while talking to Armin and Mikasa to kinda hint that they might throw Eren in it haha.

And continuing with the Annie teases once again, god damnit.

Overall was an amazing chapter and im so hyped for the next one, i wonder how long Piecks been on Paradis.
Oct 5, 2018 3:17 AM

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Zeke (to Levi): "You're not popular with women, are you?"
Levi: "There was a time when I was popular."

Me:*facepalm*....... Actually... Even NOW Levi is still REALLY popular between women...

Lol, bubbles of the day~ XD


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Oct 5, 2018 4:41 AM

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Did Armin get any taller ?! He looks too short compared to others. He did not grow as much as Mikasa despite being a male

Not complaining because I want Armin to be a girl
Oct 5, 2018 4:45 AM

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I didn't think Zachary would be killed like that. He didn't have many scenes, but I really loved him. If this goes on, Pixis, Hange and Levi will also be killed. I don't want that!

I have hated Piek from the moment she was introduced, and I hope she will die one of the most painful deaths.

Eren is acting more and more like the villain. I can't wait to know his side of the story. I wasn't a big fan of Eren when I'd first started to read the manga, but I loved him ever since I saw how emotionally weak he actually was. I wish we had more male protagonists who are emotionally weak.

Yelena showed signs of emotions. What is she actually planning? I can't wait to know.

Zeke said Levi wasn't popular. Isayama sure knows how to make a joke, even in a serious situation.

I knew Eren was about to escape from the prison when Zachary didn't allow Mikasa and Armin to meet him. I wasn't expecting him to dig a hole, and cover it with his beast hammer crystals. That is an important thing writers should be doing. When they show a scene that is predictable because of plot, they can also add somethings that are harder to predict. A lot of writers don't seem to do it these days.
Oct 5, 2018 5:38 AM

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Wow Eren changed a lot durring that time skip he is a total badass now.
Oct 5, 2018 8:24 AM

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- Spinal gas... Fuck. That's a dangerous weapon.

- C'mon Yelena. Split something about the plan

- Armin is really in love with Annie. Memories my ass.

- What will happen to Eren? Don't tell that the reason why they putted it in the anime. EDIT: I pretty sure people are now gonna photoshop Eren in the place of that huy in the chair.

- RIP Zackly. Here was I thinking that he would be killed by Pixis.

- I can already see one of the OPs of season 4 being a remake of Sasageyo.

- Eren's eye marks are small so he might have just used an arm or half body.

- Pieck, daughter of a bitch. Already that far?
Oct 5, 2018 9:45 AM

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I don't think Eren is being controlled. I mean founding titan can't be controlled by a mere beast titan right? I hope that's the case. Eren's hood looks familiar (Don't know if I'm reading too much into it). It was a great chapter overall.
Sad they didn't give any info on Historia. I was waiting for it eagerly.
Oct 5, 2018 9:59 AM

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Well all I can say that things are going to be a bloody mess. Chaos is already in the rings of the island. It will only be a matter of months at most before the Island becomes the target of annihilation on the planet. And if things are not kept together everything will burn.
Oct 5, 2018 10:21 AM
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sim0n2170 said:
Hajime Isayama's comment this month
"The first-half of the anime's 3rd season was the best! For the time being, thank you for all the hardwork!"



Isayama’s Monthly Q&A on Bessatsu Shonen Magazine November's Issue
Q: As for Eren, Reiner, and the others: Do they perceive pain while they are titanized?
A: They will not experience the damage that's inflicted upon the body of their titans, but they will experience pain if it is directly inflicted upon their own bodies



Credits: @OrganicDinosaur


B-but what about that time when mikasa sliced ymir's eye in season 2!! I think she was in pain
Oct 5, 2018 2:23 PM
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Omg omg!! This chapter was so fuckking exiting!! and eren!! Omg he looks adorable 😭😭❤
I'm actually hopping he'll meet with zeke in the next chapter so we can know what they're planing to.. Plus guys come on I don't think he is brain washed or anything he just need to act like a demon to rescue the eldians,, he's the prey here, he just threw everything behind to rescue the eldians future, plus what eren Krueger said about ( rescuing mikasa and armin)
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Oct 5, 2018 6:37 PM

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I used to be sceptical of this new direction but the end of the marley arc and the chapters after it have made me like it again. The story is currently more exciting than ever before with many different factions, mysteries and intriguing characters.

Eren especially is just on another level right now, he used to be pretty simple and while not bad rather generic. Now he is compelling and mysterious, I just hope his motivations are good (we still don't get any real insight) and he delivers on the hype. Off topic but this is how Kaneki should have been later on in TG
Oct 5, 2018 8:11 PM

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Gas? Is this a reference to Holocaust?

Eldian = Jewish
Marley = Nazi Germany

Lots of sasageyo by the people there.RIP in Zackly.
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Oct 5, 2018 9:27 PM

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I didn't think we'd ever see that torture machine again, but it was a nice callback. Too bad that chuckle-worthy moment didn't last long because of the explosion. RIP Zackly.

Eren has escaped from prison and now he's pretty much a cult leader. The story has become so crazy but I'm very interested to see where everything goes from here. Sometimes I wish this manga was weekly.....
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Oct 6, 2018 4:34 AM

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General.....Died....well ...looks like he was going to kill Eren so...But still holy F***!!!! Paradise's Civilians have become Warmongers....

...This is also Confirmation to Me....Eren is going to be Main Antagonist.....He freaking looks liek a CULT LEADER!!! I am Shocked....and frigging HORRIFIED!!!
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Oct 6, 2018 5:51 AM

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Armin knew about the bomb, he stopped Mikasa from going back to listen... "musn't break military rules" my ass, it's all you guys ever do.

Is Armin the Main Antagonist?
Oct 6, 2018 1:48 PM

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Gas? Is this a reference to Holocaust?

Eldian = Jewish
Marley = Nazi Germany

Lots of sasageyo by the people there.RIP in Zackly.


Nein it's reference to Initial d Gas Gas




OT : Who was the girl on the last panel?



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KalfKaneda said:
Gorochu said:
Gas? Is this a reference to Holocaust?

Eldian = Jewish
Marley = Nazi Germany

Lots of sasageyo by the people there.RIP in Zackly.


Nein it's reference to Initial d Gas Gas




OT : Who was the girl on the last panel?

Pieck (The Cart Titan)
Oct 7, 2018 12:25 AM
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Brilliant chapter, one of the best in the entire run of the manga. So much goodness on many levels.

It is tending though as I fear in the direction of Eren becoming the main antagonist which would be a shame for me personally. I hope he's being controlled. I don't want to see him turn of his own free will against Mikasa and Armin.
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Oct 7, 2018 12:08 PM
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Zackley dead!!! The military on the verge of being overthrown; signs of another coup d'etat on Paradis island. Invasion of the Marlyeans successful. And eren, looking total badass. As for why he is rebelling against the military, why his character shade is changing and what are his plan?? Answers to all these are still unknown..
Oct 7, 2018 5:34 PM

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Wow, what a chapter.

Eren became a real cult leader.

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At first I didn't like the new direction of AOTs. But now I am getting hyped for it Again.

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Oct 9, 2018 12:28 PM

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yes, the return of best girl Hitch
Mikasa looks so much like a guy now I keep almost forgetting its her every time she appears lol
Oct 10, 2018 9:45 AM

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Damn, another pretty important character who bites the dust. Things are really getting intense
Oct 11, 2018 2:03 PM

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Hold your horses Isayama-sensei, this getting started to be really something. Coup d'etat of Military against Reiss goverment is nothing to this. Also, 40 monthly pages starting to be shorter and shorter, there is too much balast on it right now. I mean, it's good, I miss apocaliptic survival drama, but I also like this political drama with historical contexts.

I need some recapitulations, there is so much stuff going on now.

Eldia is now not only hated by whole world who is preparing offensive against it, now we got internal conflict between peaceful group surprisingly represented by military, while radical group is represented by Floch who turned fascist with dream of Eldian Empire restored and with part of military, mostly recruits I guess and people of paradis Island. I mean, Am I only one who see parallels with Hitler's rise in Germany? Should we call Eren new Führer from now on? Maybe there are some parallels to Imperial Japan, not sure about it.

But that's not all, no no no, there are also "Volunteers" from by Marleyans subjugated nations and Eldians from Marley, but there are also Maylean soldier's who are Prisoners of War, but ALSO Marleyan's shifter's commando! They are already on PARADIS! And I am honestly not sure on which side Reinder's will stand when it comes to it. AND ZEKE? AND YELENA? WHAT THEY ARE UP TO? WHAT EREN?

And then there are minor thing like Marleyan warrior recruits... gosh I still don't remember names of those kids... Ben and Mia right now? They go by those on their escape. Nice to see Hitch and Annie.

I cannot wait what will happens next, but I am also scared and it will take time. A lot of time. I need more chapters.

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Levi God Mode > Eren & Zeke
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Live by the chair, die by the chair...
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Oct 13, 2018 6:18 AM

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By every chapter, I'm having more and more questions about what's happening? This keeps on getting more mysterious! I don't think Eren's being controlled by Zeke. Like he has the power of the founding titan, so it's impossible right? At this point I don't even know who's right. People in the military have different opinions. Like Zackley, Hanji, and Mikasa and the others. Eren didn't even hesitate in blowing Zackley and the other four soldiers up, like wtf? And how did people know/Mikasa and Armin guess that Zackley was thinking of a new heir? And now Eren's headed towards Levi and Zeke! Sigh, I'm really loving this series.
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To be fair, Erwin hasn't always been aligned to Zackly/Zachary's ways. This was shown in the chapters where Zackly was handling the nobles post-coup. The only thing keeping them together was the coup.

Erwin and his subordinates: trying to save as much "humanity" (now called Eldians) as possible. Also, they have always distrusted the top brass and inner military's competence in handling titan powers.
Zackly: hatred against previous government's tyranny. -> Which is why he doesn't want Eren to gain more power and popularity. He doesn't want anybody else to become more powerful than he is and reign over him.

With this mentality, and the fact that the Scouts are effectively under Zackly's control, it makes sense if Eren and a fragment of the military who's extremely against Zackly's ways went traitors.


Not really spoiler for this manga, but spoiler for another anime:
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Maybe there are some parallels to Imperial Japan, not sure about it.



I see Imperial Japan in Hizuru nation. They claim to be Eldia's big brother while trying to monopolize its resources. Like... "Nippon sahabat Asia", "Nippon pembebas Asia"
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I don't think Eren is being controlled. I mean founding titan can't be controlled by a mere beast titan right?


Eren can't be controlled as an Eldian/titan. However, being controlled as a human being by a far smarter human being is possible. Moreover, Zeke was far more experienced in trickery and deceit. He has been in that kind of world since childhood, when he was in Marleyan military and Grisha was still in the Eldian Restoration Movement.
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Oh my oh my oh my, I really can't guess what's gonna happen next. I totally have no idea what is Eren thinking, I feel as betrayed as Mikasa and Armin. Is it true he's controlled by Zeke? Is it those memories from the titans he ate that beckons him to do all of this? Or is it his nature to advance and 'eliminate all enemies' that gave him that diamond determination? (Remember when he killed those 3 kidnappers and the whole scene when he met Reiner, it's like he functions normally with normal levels of empathy but once things get down to life and death he fought without mercy). Now that people are starting to worship him I am truly afraid things are gonna end up ugly.

Several other things to point out: Feels like Hanji is getting prettier. The details on which she's drawn... Welp, poor lady. Next, I can't believe Zackley was considering using that chair on Eren, that's disgustingly creepy. I'm rather glad he died though it's basically the strongest trigger for our internal Elidan conflict from now. Falco's role has just gotten significantly bigger as well. Never thought it'd be that way. Ah well... as long as someone else goes to hell for you, eh, Falco? And Pieck. Ohhh, Pieck. I am ambivalent whether I should pity her or excited that she's joined the narrative.
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brightmoose said:
Martin_Taylor said:
Maybe there are some parallels to Imperial Japan, not sure about it.



I see Imperial Japan in Hizuru nation. They claim to be Eldia's big brother while trying to monopolize its resources. Like... "Nippon sahabat Asia", "Nippon pembebas Asia"


I personally see Paradis itself parallels Japan.Like Japan she also closed herself to all foreign contacts for a long time,like American ships came to open Japan up,Titan shifters came to attack or "Open" up Paradis which forced the people there to reform like the Meiji restoration in the Uprising Arc.






Nov 10, 2018 7:42 PM

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well zackly died like that and eren escaped...I am like what is going on here hmm
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Oooo fuck Zackly died, that could've killed Mikasa and Armin if it blew up earlier...


And then Eren escaped.... And the cart titan is inside the walls, this ain't looking good.
Feb 29, 2020 12:13 AM

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This shit’s nothing but exposition, after exposition, after exposition. Getting real tired of this shit. What happened to all the good stuff like the mystery and the titan killing? Really hate how this series turned out into nothing but politics now. This series hasn’t been good ever since that arc where they first used 3d mobile gear with guns against that black hat ackerman guy. I can’t even keep up with all these characters anymore bc I don’t care about them. Boring political bullshit, and basically no more titans eating people, fuck this shit./rant
Nov 4, 2020 7:22 PM

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This really bothers me:
The torture chair was to Zack's left, but his left side was still intact. He could have been facing out the window, but then he would have flown out face first.

This might be one of those Phoenix Wright clues you present cause it doesn't add up, but it turns out to just be an oversight by the writers, but I don't think that's the case.

Isayama surely though about how the explosion was positioned to draw his mangled body in such detail, and to me it looks like that bomb was definitely not in the chair. Does this really mean anything? I have no idea, but I can't stop thinking about it.
Nov 10, 2020 6:15 AM

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It's seems that when armin ate berthold, he even inherited the crush he had on annie. At least i think this is how it happened.

I can't imagine eren sitting on that thing. That would've been terrible.

Zacklys assassination reminded of a very similar scene from breaking bad . Maybe this is where isayama got his inspiration.
Nov 19, 2020 12:38 PM

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Eren is becoming the possible main villain more and more as the chapters go. Although we haven't see his pov in all of this, considering how crazy his cult is he probably wants to kill everyone in Marley without thinking twice.
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Military is acting too slow and Eren is acting too fast, they have to sort themselves out
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Eren becoming more unreliable at each chapter and Marley is already infiltrated inside the Walls. Things are really chaotic now.
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