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Aug 31, 2017 3:22 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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That was crazy.

Perospero with the Candy Maiden, Big Mama chasing down her enemies, and action all over the place. But that ending...PEDRO! What a hero.
Aug 31, 2017 3:31 AM
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NOOOOOOOOOO Perdo.

But seriously, I don't see him coming back at all. He was going to die anyway, so he is juts sacrificing himself to save the others. But I hope that he doesn't come back like Igraham from the Alabasta arc, cause Pedro dying will actually have more of an effect.
Aug 31, 2017 3:37 AM
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Luffy vs Katakuri FUCKING HYPE!!!
Aug 31, 2017 3:38 AM
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NOOOOOOOO! Pedro!!!
Damn awesome chapter once again.
Katakuri vs Luffy is great and Pedro sacrifice to give them a chance to escape.
I think Mink Tribe will really join Luffy fleet after this arc.
Aug 31, 2017 3:56 AM
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Pedro could have been bluffing again, like he did while fighting Baron Tamago, but it's unlikely since this time they don't the mirrors to escape. Could be a giant fake explosion just to scare Perospero for a second to stop his devil fruit powers from working so that the Sunny, Brook and Chopper will be freed - kinda like Zoro did to Monet back in Punk Hazard. Also seems a bit far fetched though, since I doubt Perospero would be fooled by this. All just speculation :P
Aug 31, 2017 4:14 AM
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I thought of something: If Pedro dies in the explosion, and Big Mom later faints (let's say by Sanji's cake), will he get his stolen years back and be resurrected? Or we don't know for sure?
Aug 31, 2017 4:15 AM
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PEDRO NO :'( I actually teared up at the end there... I thought he was gonna get his life span back at some point and I thought the homie that fought him a couple chapters ago would be the answer for that.
Katakuri better still be on the ship. Can't wait to see a proper fight between the two. Honestly, I didn't want Carrot to join the crew until now but a mink surely has to. Their people are too good.
Lol at Perospero thinking Luffy is scared of spikes. Should've asked Don Krieg first, bro.
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Aug 31, 2017 4:19 AM
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Nice chapter.
DAMN Pedro going out like a boss.
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Aug 31, 2017 4:22 AM
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After Pedro's sacrifice, I feel like Carrot will definitely join the crew.
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Aug 31, 2017 4:54 AM

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I'm hesitant to believe for now that Pedro is actually dead, remember when a certain character from way back when supposedly died in an explosion that they definitely could not or should not have logically survived?

If Pedro really is gone, then RIP, but I'm unconvinced right now.
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Aug 31, 2017 5:00 AM

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WoW that was crazy!

Well I for sure didn't expect someone to die in this arc. :(

Oh another haitsu.

4/5
Aug 31, 2017 5:12 AM

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Ok but is he actually dead though?
Aug 31, 2017 5:44 AM
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R.I.P Pedro

(They might pull off a pell though but unlikely)
Aug 31, 2017 5:53 AM
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Wow what an action packed chapter, Brock really struggled here. Anyway the fight to take back the Sunny continues, Big Ma might above us, but we should able to defeat her children, if not how weak are we?

Pedro is dead? Well so long Pedro your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Of course we go on break next week, why wouldn't we?
Aug 31, 2017 6:05 AM

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I smell a Pell 2.0 xD

Chopper and Brook lost to Perespero, well it would've been to good to be true if they actually had a real chance, especially since we now know that he has a whopping 700mio on his head.

Luffy vs Katakuri was a nice eye candy.

And about the part with Pedros sacrifice, it would be indeed awesome if Oda has the balls to pull it off, it would also show that you can't win against a Yonkou without taking casualities. One thing speaking for it would be that he hasn't much time left anyway.

However, has to be seen if the attack was successful, or if Perespero was somehow able to avoid the damage.

Sucks that we have to wait two weeks, tho ~__~

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Aug 31, 2017 6:06 AM

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I'm not buying that Pedro actually died but he was a boss in this chapter.

Luffy vs Katakuri has me hyped!
Aug 31, 2017 6:28 AM

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If Pell was able to survived an explosion, then I'm very sure Pedro can
Aug 31, 2017 6:29 AM
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Pedro is DEAD?!?!?!? What the hell?? WOW, I guess it makes sense. But, how are the Straw Hats going to leave together with Sanji?
Aug 31, 2017 6:48 AM

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Pedrooo! I'm not completely buying it yet but if he really is dead then, well, shit. :(

Luffy vs Katakuri was awesome, need more of that.

There's no way the cake is already ready so are the StrawHats just gonna burst out and hide assuming the explosion releases the candy hold on Sunny? Don't think they can hide from a Yonkou that easily.
Aug 31, 2017 7:18 AM

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it feels chap, break next week! lOl
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Aug 31, 2017 8:03 AM

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Katakuri can stretch his body like Luffy, and can turn his body into mochi too, it's like Paramecia and Logia combined. I think it will be hard for Luffy to beat him.
Aug 31, 2017 8:03 AM

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We all know there is a chance that a "Pell" might happen for that last scene, but then again...They are fighting a Yonkou, there should be casualties and Pedro represent that, and his death will most likely be the foothold for Carrot to join the SH permanently.

It's basically shaping Luffy's crew to become just like Roger, both Inu and Neko were also part of Roger's crew, make sense if Luffy will have variety like Roger. That gives more chance for someone from Wano to join, just like the Oden who were a part of Roger's crew as well.
Aug 31, 2017 8:24 AM

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I hope Pedro actually died there. In this manga hardly anyone dies, so I'd appreciate some casualties.

I'm not sure if I want Carrot to join. I wasn't reading this manga back when Brock joined. I got used to the original members, so more people joining would be quite weird for me, but let's see where this is going.
Aug 31, 2017 8:24 AM
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Ok but is he actually dead though?


I got the eerie suspision that Katakuri foresaw that and tossed the bombs away or something of the sort but the tards will still go OMG ODA FORESHADOWED THAT. Mindblown that Pedro was still alive.

4/5 for the chapters as it is.
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Aug 31, 2017 9:04 AM

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Meh ... fake death as usual ...
Aug 31, 2017 11:25 AM

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Oda has faked out so many deaths, that this stuff usually loses it impact. That being said, that it was a good as it was despite that fact says a lot about the execution. Still a little annoying, but it was a stellar chapter.
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Aug 31, 2017 11:26 AM

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I like that twist at the end with Pedro blowing himself up with Peros.

Aug 31, 2017 11:31 AM

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Isterio said:
MoonStar9 said:
Ok but is he actually dead though?


I got the eerie suspision that Katakuri foresaw that and tossed the bombs away or something of the sort but the tards will still go OMG ODA FORESHADOWED THAT. Mindblown that Pedro was still alive.

4/5 for the chapters as it is.


I would also question why Katakuri didn't act as he should have seen it happen but what you said makes sense.
Aug 31, 2017 12:09 PM

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That was crazy.

Perospero with the Candy Maiden, Big Mama chasing down her enemies, and action all over the place. But that ending...PEDRO! What a hero.


you're basically praising a suicide bomber

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I thought of something: If Pedro dies in the explosion, and Big Mom later faints (let's say by Sanji's cake), will he get his stolen years back and be resurrected? Or we don't know for sure?


a pile of exploded flesh and bones will be just that regardless of age

i mean imagine your beef burger suddenly got younger, that will only make the meat more tender, but the cow will stay dead
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Aug 31, 2017 12:33 PM

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Perospero has a higher bounty than Sabo lol.
Aug 31, 2017 12:36 PM
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Isn't luffy going to have an emotional outburst? Because katakuri(dogtooth) said: "All of you back into the mirror world. In a few seconds the lot of you will be collapsed at his feet" and a picture shown of luffy???
Aug 31, 2017 1:09 PM

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No perospero, katakuri has to save him, he's too valuable to the crew.
Pedro going suicide bomb mode.
Aug 31, 2017 2:11 PM
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A really good chapter this Time!
Perospero is stronger than i thought. 700million barry. thats a lot.
Luffy vs Katakuri finally startet and his powers are very interesting!
But the biggest part in this chapter is of course my Boy Pedro!
I liked him from the beginning and im Happy that he could shine this chapter and people finally see how awesome he is.
I hope he is dead now, also if i dont want him dead. He must not be Pell 2.
RIP Pedro!
Aug 31, 2017 2:15 PM

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"we been waiting for hundreds of years for you" STOP IT ODA. You are fucking killing me with this shit. Man is Wano really THAT important? I am really loving the climax of WCI arc. But like everyone is speculating i think stating that WANO is going to be a ridiculous arc is an understatement.

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"we been waiting for hundreds of years for you" STOP IT ODA. You are fucking killing me with this shit. Man is Wano really THAT important? I am really loving the climax of WCI arc. But like everyone is speculating i think stating that WANO is going to be a ridiculous arc is an understatement.



Pedro's words have nothing to do with Wano. He's obviously referring to the void century stuff.
Aug 31, 2017 2:48 PM
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A number a people seem to have missed the fact that the explosion freed the Sunny from Perospero's candied hold. Regardless of whether or not there are any survivors, the SHs can now use coup de burst to escape for the time being.

...And I also wouldn't be surprised if Katakuri saved Perospero from that explosion. But that would also mean he's off the ship, and that they're in the clear to escape.
Aug 31, 2017 3:52 PM
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PEDRO NOOOOOO!!!
Aug 31, 2017 3:58 PM
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MoonStar9 said:
Isterio said:


I got the eerie suspision that Katakuri foresaw that and tossed the bombs away or something of the sort but the tards will still go OMG ODA FORESHADOWED THAT. Mindblown that Pedro was still alive.

4/5 for the chapters as it is.


I would also question why Katakuri didn't act as he should have seen it happen but what you said makes sense.


Wasn't Katakuri fighting Luffy on the ship or somewhere near the ship?

If so I can think of 2 reasons why he didn't react.
1.He was too busy fighting Luffy
2.Even if he did foresee it, like earlier in this arc when all the Luffy clones jumped out of the cake, even if he can see what's going to happen he can't always react to it/try and stop it.
Aug 31, 2017 5:30 PM

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Oh dear...Sai has some explanation to do....Me thinks that former Fiancee is not going to like this..and going by her body...she is actually quite good fighter.....Even if she is not as Beautiful as most of the OP girls....Sai....actually is one that is Wrong here....I like Baby 5 but...still...poor girl...even if she is going to rip Sai a New one! XD

Holy shit....Candyman Bounty is 200 Million bigger than Luffy's!? and skills than he can do that fruit....daaamn....He sure as hell is deserving that Bounty....

But....PEDRO!? O_O .....oh....Damn..we knew that he wouldn't live long after this adventure because Big Mom got most of his life time....but still...he decided go with Blaze of Glory and give others time to escape....Respect for that...even if it is Bittersweet....damn I am not crying but close...

Tough....Wasn't Candyman Logia....well looks like Heat and Fire is destroying/Melting any skill he is using...but a Still Logia...Can Bombs even Kill him? Hurt him? Most Likely...but there was no Haki in that Attack...so...I think Candyman is not dead....and Pedro bought them time and Freedom...but did not take him down.

And...BREAK AGAIN!? WTF...There is no Holiday next week and We have just been 2 chapters from last break....next break should have been after next weeks chapter....what the hell....
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Aug 31, 2017 7:01 PM

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Pedro... I hope your sacrifice will not be in vain. I am betting he may only have a couple years left to live. And of course he must've been injured before reaching the Thousand Sunny. I am guessing there was no way he be living... after this arc. T_T
Aug 31, 2017 9:55 PM

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Hopefully this is not a a Pell.
Aug 31, 2017 11:09 PM

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Meh, he is alive (surprised if he's not, but it's Oda and this ain't a flashback). Luffy vs. Katakuri looked pretty cool, that was nice. Chapter was okay overall.
Sep 1, 2017 1:14 AM

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Perospero has a higher bounty than Sabo lol.


Sabo bounty isn't revealed in the manga till now
Sep 1, 2017 3:04 AM

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Kja95 said:
SuperRed said:
Perospero has a higher bounty than Sabo lol.


Sabo bounty isn't revealed in the manga till now


https://mobile.twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/902909796600262657
Sep 1, 2017 3:28 AM

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SuperRed said:
Kja95 said:


Sabo bounty isn't revealed in the manga till now


https://mobile.twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/902909796600262657


That's too lame... Is this really official from oda ???
Sep 1, 2017 4:35 AM

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I see that Pedro knows only one way to resolve a problem.
Sep 1, 2017 5:39 AM

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Huh I wonder if Pedror really did die? Though what hee said about bringing the world into a new dawn sounds like more foreshadowing <_<
Sep 1, 2017 7:33 AM
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I don't really think he'll be dead. I'd be surprised if he actually is.

Pretty fun chapter though.
Sep 1, 2017 7:52 AM

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No way that he's dead. I've seen too many people "die" in One Piece to know better.
Sep 1, 2017 2:09 PM

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We really wouldn't be doubting Pedro's death if this wasn't One Piece. It is just what makes more sense for several reasons. First, they have actually been foreshadowing this the whole arc: Pedro has very little time left, Pedro never intended to come back alive, he went suicidal before. Talk about multiple death flags. Second, the phrases and lines that were chosen for this moment, particularly this farewell; a fake death would ruin this moment not just for the future but in retrospect. Third, the feeling of danger and shit going down. To take out somebody like Perospero who seems so unapproachable for the rest it makes sense that a huge sacrifice is performed.

And last but not least, Carrot. Not only for the new motivation and inherited will this means for her, but also to tackle something that could be potentially problematic about her attitude. During this whole arc, even in dangerous situations, she has consistently taken things lightly and been enthusiastic about everything. Innocence and enthusiasm are not bad, but when Pedro first tried to blow himself up she acted like it was nothing and admired his plan. That was probably too much, and Pedro already told her to take things more seriously when they started the journey. She underestimates the gravity of things and needs a burst of realization like this to understand where she's getting into, specially given her dream of exploring the world beyond Zou.

While this scene was epic and sad as hell and Pedro takes the spotlight for his -very foreshadowed- actions, I feel that this chapter and specifically the emotional weight of this part is more about Carrot and her necessary growth. After all, Pedro is just repeating ideas we already knew, heard from him or could very easily assume, but Carrot is suffering essential character development right here. Sort of a sudden tragic backstory.
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