Little Witch Academia (TV) Episode 15 Discussion

TheGreatMizuti said:
So far Akko has shown no indication that's she's suspicious of Ursula. And it's more so the opposite. If Ursula IS listed in the yearbook, it would be proof that she's Chariot because Diana could easily recognise the younger version of her childhood idol coupled with Ursula's name (this is assuming Ursula is her real name and not another alias). If Diana makes that connection then she'll also know that Ursula is the most likely person to be giving Akko info on the Shiny Rod because Chariot is the most heavily associated with it

ThreePercent said:
-Wait do the teachers know about Ursula

Fircoal said:

Thank you. I get it more now. Basically it's spell protection, that makes a lot more sense than whatever I was thinking of beforehand.

It probably reacts to Akko because of her energy and positivity. As said the shiny rod works with emotions, and as we have seen Akko is very emotional.

valvravetruth said:


You seem to think "anime" in a very wrong way , my fellow member. Firstly no one ever say that technology is evil. Which the same goes to Croix, Im not sure how you can be so clear she is supposed to be evil before this episode. Saying this is common trope or saying bunch of shows like to make parrells like this, I hope you can enlighten me how many or what show look similiar. Even if there are, you make it sound like every anime in the world look the same, you are bored with it.

valvravetruth said:

Akko & Diana only a tiny bit like Diana & Croix. 1stly op literally explain it all, Diana & Croix goes side way and Akko & Diana did go side way but linking hand instead. Diana only think less of being competitive, she has real noble chivalry and always at her best. Not only that Diana is not arrogant, she actually think Akko's team has a shot in winning the moonlit witch by breaking Baharowa sad curse few episodes back. Most importantly, Diana is not evil. Diana doesn't like technology Croix bring, but Ako does.

You think it in a wrong way during Chariot breaking in to the tower. She doesn't act like spy and not infiltrading, Chariot literally rushing in to save Akko. She is using magic, how else is she going to save Akko? Its literally magic fight.

valvravetruth said:


Including this seperated comment, not joking & no offence, there is something wrong with how you watch an anime.

Fircoal said:
Why? Because I don't care for an anime that you like? That makes no sense what-so-ever.

valvravetruth said:


Well I believe that everyone preference is different, so what I like doesn't mean you will hold the same opinion. So its fine that you don't like it. My point in saying "there is something wrong with how you watch an anime", comes from your view to show you didn't watch an anime properly or so to say there is something wrong.

For example,
"I don't get the reason behind this whole 7 words plot. Why do they have the revive the 7 words? Why does it react to the 7 words? Why those words? How in the world did Akko even know some of the words in the first place? It's such a vague and weird plot that it feels like it's shoved in there for the purpose of having a plot." written by you.

Even if someone not watching it properly, he can still know the answer to these question. Its not vague & weird if you follow the series....

Fircoal said:

It's also really easy to forget things or to miss things. Otherwise there wouldn't be people confused about things that happen in shows all the time. There have people who answered that part of the post and actually explained it and it makes more sense because of that. Like I even remember and understand the parts that lead up to the conclusion of that. I just forgot them over the span of the weeks it's been since. That doesn't make my watching process any less proper, imo.

Fircoal said:



Why? Because I don't care for an anime that you like? That makes no sense what-so-ever.

15poundfish said:
It kind of does because if you don't understand the basic plot threads of the story. Most of your criticisms is from a lack of understanding or making speculative claims on how a trope will be used in the story. You complained about the magic fight in the middle of the this episode when Croix explains exactly why she attacked Chariot with her Golems. She is testing Chariot's magical ability while also implying that Chariot lost some of her ability but not all of it. Why would she do this? Because Shiny Chariot could be a thorn in her plans.

Fircoal said:
And yet I've pretty much been right on every speculative that I've had about a trope.

And the thing is I realize some of my criticisms were misplaced when people reminded me of what happened before. I'm not here to stubbornly proclaim something. People respond reasonably so do I.

As for the battle part, I get why it's in there in the sense of the story. It just feels out of place to me. That is more of a personal thing though.

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:


Don't worry, the writing and story-telling is so weird at some points that it's normal to miss some elements. It's the same for me. There's no logic in the way the hint appears and above all the way the words are used and why.

For example the use of the second word, why must akko spell it to hit the apparition makes no sense. It's not like she was threatened or something, she had to chose whether or not she wanted to accept a deal, she didn't have to strike the apparition with an axe. But because the plot says "an axe appears" then she had to knock something. LOL.

For the third word, Ursula just "casually" said something like "yes, Chariot used " arae something "", even though Akko was speaking of transformation magic, nothing to do with a rope (which at this point nobody knew it could be of use) nothing to do with the shiny rod either. Furthermore Akko didn't even react to the fact Ursula is saying what word she (as chariot) pronounced back then to use the shiny rod. You wonder if Ursula ever said it out loud. It makes no sense. It makes even less sense when Akko uses the spell later on ... well it's just "because MC" once again.


It's just bad narration and that's why it's not easy to get the logic, ... because logic is lacking in the first place.


And don't worry about the fan-boys, they'll tell you you don't understand anything but in fact they overlook all the incoherences and the mountain of convenient parts of the story. You can see that in the forum since the beginning of the show.

It doesn't mean the show is bad. It just has some flaws.

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:

It's just bad narration and that's why it's not easy to get the logic, ... because logic is lacking in the first place.


And don't worry about the fan-boys, they'll tell you you don't understand anything but in fact they overlook all the incoherences and the mountain of convenient parts of the story. You can see that in the forum since the beginning of the show.

It doesn't mean the show is bad. It just has some flaws.

iSaturnine said:
Can I add something about the first half of the series? A lot of people seem to keep saying the first half was boring and episodic and that it wasn't going anywhere.
If you look at other shows linked by some of the same staff (studio trigger and gainax, and imaishi himself) like Kill La Kill, Gurren Lagann, even Neon Genesis, they all spent around the first 10 episodes having a more episodic feel where it was JUST about characters and world building with plot taking a back seat. because of these crucial episodes it was when the plot kicked in that we were actually able to give a crap.
The same happened here in LWA. They spent a solid amount of time developing the characters and world pre-plot so that when the plot kicks in we can get a grasp for how they may change and cope and how they will evolve once they come out the other end.
Too often do i think shows throw the audience right into the thick of it and expect you to care because the characters care.
Maybe modern audience are too impatient?
i mean Cowboy Bebop was almost entirely episodic and is an absolute gem, but there are less and less shows that follow that way of story telling it seems. Perhaps people just want the gist of the show right then and there at the start.

Actar said:

I really like what they're doing with Croix. From the line "I was blinded by your brilliance", I'm hoping to have them set her up as what Akko could have become if she had become disillusioned with Chariot instead of continuing to believe in her.

Fate_warrior95 said:
Does anyone know who's the VA of Croix?

Her voice is so elegant and smooth, I like her alot

ssjathena said:


The Same VA of Naruto

15poundfish said:
I think it is up to the viewer to decide whether the decision for the scenes to play out illogically is better for the anime. The scenes if they played out logically might have detracted from the catharsis of these scenes or the thematic impact. How the words transform in the scenes is irrelevant when the activation of the words have always had a thematic purpose in the anime. Its debatable whether it would be better for all the scenes to play out logically to the extent that it might have reduced the catharsis of those scenes or the thematic impact. If the show played out logically, Ursula would give her a list of words she knows and try to figure out what the last missing word is early on in the anime. Would the anime be as enjoyable? Probably not.

blfan said:


When in this series has Diana has acted like snobby bitch. What series are you watching? Just give me an example, and don't give me OVA stuff that is non canon or because Akko thinks she is, the last two episode is evident, Akko is not the best judge of character.

Seriously why the Diana hate, she is as awesome as Akko.

Jonesy974 said:


Not even sure why I'm gracing you with a response. The moment you said the OVA stuff is non-canon you had no argument. Lol you literally just called the original material non-canon. Not sure if you realize how dumb that kind of sounds.

But I digress. As far as Diana being snobby goes, she's always put Akko down and made her feel inferior, particularly in the beginning episodes where she was insinuating that Akko doesn't try and cant do magic. And again in the recent episode where she's trying to boss the monster union around like she knows her reasoning is superior, without even actually taking into consideration their circumstances; which is exactly why Akko really hit her deep in that scene.

Granted, Diana isn't even 1/100th as bad as her "friends". Those two girls are cunts.

SeidouTZ said:

With that out of the way in regards to your second point. I don't know why you are generalizing all the fans like that but regardless, taking Fircoal post as a example it is clear that a lot of her/his "issues" with the series come from her/his own lack of attention, the story is not that convoluted.
Also can you plz specify what you mean by asspulls?

JG_Wezz said:
Despite a few quibbles with the animation for some parts, this was a pretty good episode. I really like the relationship Akko and Ursula has built throughout the show, any time between the two is really sweet.

Diana's little talk with Ursula was interesting just in regards to them not really ever speaking to each other... I don't remember there ever being any interaction between the two? At least in this series. If Diana is the first (between her and Akko) to discover Ursula's true identity, I can't wait for that dialogue.

Cabron said:
The anime that you mentioned are just following the good ol' tradition of the Monster of the Week shows from the 70s/80s.

Specimen021 said:
I absolutely refuse to believe that this and the first half of this show were written by the same person.

It's starting to look genuinely good.

ThreePercent said:
-Wait do the teachers know about Ursula
-yeah this won't end well
-huh, seems like croix instantly recognized chariot
-is this the ringed city
-those drones had awful aim

Hoo man, nothing new happened this episode other than Chariot returning to form and beating down some gargoyles. I guess they also explained the seven Words to Akko, as well as explicitly state that Chariot and Croix attended the school together, but these things are hardly something to dedicate a whole episode to. Even then, Chariot's fight against the magical summons weren't too impressive because it progressed really slowly. The important magical stuff in previous episodes always had a ton of movement, but the tower climbing scene seemed to have a bunch of empty shots. It really does feel like a recap episode, especially with all the flashbacks, which is pretty disappointing.

Bugberry91 said:
Things are only good now because of the lore and characters that were set up previously. The show was always good, you were just impatient.

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:

If you present a lack of logic with humor, like in the movie with the parade, I think it's great but here in the series the humor is lost, it takes itself seriously, that's the tone, and saying you can't do it any other or better way, it's too short for a defense IMO.

It's true though that the writing is consistent in throwing asspulls like any kid show. Once you accept it, you can get along with the story but on the other hand the fans shouldn't bash people who are disturbed by that, because there are good reasons to get confused.