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HyperL said: Manecleis said: I explained myself above. But I want to add that, in order to have the idea of turning the power off, you actually have to solve all the mysteries. Obviously Munakata and Sakakura were clueless. Kirigiri was the only one who was very close to the truth, but she lacked information on the control room and had to run from Sakakura and Ruruka who both wanted to kill her, so she didn't have the opportunity to investigate what was behind the secret door. So basically, that's why it took so long for someone to do what Sakakura did in this episode. What exactly is the point You're trying to make? Yes, it is exactly as you said just now, no one would have thinked of turning off the power before knowing the TVs were a huge part of the game... I saw some comments stating that Kirigiri's death was pointless and all it would have taken was turning off the power before the time limit. But I actually had not seen that they have been answered. So sorry about that, I guess I merely repeated what all of you have already said! :D |
| Wow... that was kind of sad... kind of. Still hate his guts, so "oh well". Onward to the finale. :) |
Manecleis said: HyperL said: What exactly is the point You're trying to make? Yes, it is exactly as you said just now, no one would have thinked of turning off the power before knowing the TVs were a huge part of the game... I saw some comments stating that Kirigiri's death was pointless and all it would have taken was turning off the power before the time limit. But I actually had not seen that they have been answered. So sorry about that, I guess I merely repeated what all of you have already said! :D Actually a bunch of people are forgeting that ONLY Juzo knew of the existance of that room...No one would think of turning off the power without knowing they could in the first place, that includes Kirigiri, she didn't knew of no power room... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| so relatable to the Zetsubou arc.... Pretty valid what happened here..... Aah I thought they may show a kissing/ Yoai scene between those two guys in the end... LOL |
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| Well, talk about dishing out the plot twists throughout this episode, though I think there was quite a lot that went over my head. Hopefully the final episode will help clear things up a bit in this regard. |
| I was forgetting. Asahina's brother issue was indirectly pointed at this episode as well. When Naegi said he promised Komaru that he would come back, Asahina gave this sad sigh. Feel like it really should be adressed, and i'm sure it will, even if it a short conversation. After what happened with Sakura, I doubt Asahina would do something against her comrades again, though. |
Dreams_of_Neko said: I was forgetting. Asahina's brother issue was indirectly pointed at this episode as well. When Naegi said he promised Komaru that he would come back, Asahina gave this sad sigh. Feel like it really should be adressed, and i'm sure it will, even if it a short conversation. After what happened with Sakura, I doubt Asahina would do something against her comrades again, though. What exactly are you talking about? If its about Asahina discovering about his brother's death, she already know, as shown at a previous episode... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| So here is my last theory considering who might be the mastermind: If you remember the ending of Danganronpa 1, after Junkos death in the ultimate punishment, the "headmaster of Hope's Peak" becomes acitve again. I'm talking about Monokuma. At that time it was stated by the creators of the game that Monokuma became acitve again because of the Junko AI. And here connects my idea: Additionally to the Junko AI which was planted in the New World Program there was one in the first Monokuma all the time which activated itself after Junkos death. With the Remnants of Despair out of the game because of the failure of Junkos plan for the New World Program this Monokuma (Junko AI) plans to do something. So (s)he contacted Chisa and planed the Future Foundation Killing Game. 2 things that could support this theory could be that: 1. Monokuma said at the beginning to Naegi that this third game would be their last one. Junko fought against Naegi two times until now in Danganronpa 1 and 2. 2. Mitarai said in Episode 11 that Junko made the suicidal Video in the acutal killing game. Even if she is only a Monokuma she could manage to do that or force Mitarai to help her. Also what we know until now is that only Junko and Mitarai could make such videos. Also Mitarai checked for the whole game his handy. It could be that Junko AI is writing him messages the whole time. Like the message from "Tengan" at the end. Only because his name is the sender of the message doesn't mean it must be the real Tengan. It could be her. Apart from my Junko AI/Hopes Peak Monokuma = Mastermind-Theory I think Tengan isn't the mastermind because of two things: 1. His NG-Code was not to lie and he said to Munakata that he isn't a Remnant of Despair. 2. Right at the beginning when Mitarai enters the conference room Tengan said something like 'Mitarai, you are here?'. If he would be the mastermind and wants to use Mitarai in the game he wouldn't be so suprised when Mitarai enters the room. It could be possible that the true mastermind send Mitarai to the conference to let him suffer more despair or let him confuse someone. I'm not really sure what Mitarais role might be in this game. |
kacaj said: Well this episode wasn´t kind to my theories. It´s funny how my major theories got refuted, while one of my small guesses becomes true. At ep 8 I was thinking about cutting your arm off to avoid getting drugged, and I even stated it, that from the remaining people only Munakata and Juzo has the balls to do it. Overall this episode was a little rushed. The thing which mostly doesn´t make sense is that Tengen and Kyoko knew about the trick of the killing and they both decided to keeping it to themselves. There are some logical gaps about the suicides too. That is a bit wrong...Kyoko didn't knew about the trick, she was close to fiding the whole truth but there wasnt enough time... |
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HyperL said: kacaj said: Well this episode wasn´t kind to my theories. It´s funny how my major theories got refuted, while one of my small guesses becomes true. At ep 8 I was thinking about cutting your arm off to avoid getting drugged, and I even stated it, that from the remaining people only Munakata and Juzo has the balls to do it. Overall this episode was a little rushed. The thing which mostly doesn´t make sense is that Tengen and Kyoko knew about the trick of the killing and they both decided to keeping it to themselves. There are some logical gaps about the suicides too. That is a bit wrong...Kyoko didn't knew about the trick, she was close to fiding the whole truth but there wasnt enough time... As for Tengan, he's "officially" supposed to be (one of) the mastermind(s) now, which would certainly explain why he kept silent. |
| What a brilliant twist. They kill themselves. But we still don't know who is the mastermind. I still think it's on of the people from Jabberwock. Sakakura is the man. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Yuri-Mizuki said: Manecleis said: As for Tengan, he's "officially" supposed to be (one of) the mastermind(s) now, which would certainly explain why he kept silent. What about Mitarai then? So far, we don't know what his NG code until now. Is that has to do with Tengan or something? There is a chart of character relationships on the anime's oficial site and it says that Tengan himself scouted Mitarai to the future foundation...So my guess is that Mitarai was in some way used by despair again... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
HyperL said: Dreams_of_Neko said: I was forgetting. Asahina's brother issue was indirectly pointed at this episode as well. When Naegi said he promised Komaru that he would come back, Asahina gave this sad sigh. Feel like it really should be adressed, and i'm sure it will, even if it a short conversation. After what happened with Sakura, I doubt Asahina would do something against her comrades again, though. What exactly are you talking about? If its about Asahina discovering about his brother's death, she already know, as shown at a previous episode... No, no. I mean, they indirectly touched that subject with the Naegi/Komaru interaction in episode 7. Asahina's face wasn't shown, but it clearle made her uncomfortable, since she has lost her brother. Naegi realizes and is about to talk about it but then they got interrupted. And then, in this episode Naegi says he promised Komaru he would go back to her. Asahina is again sad. The fact that they touched the subject means that there should be some sort of closing for that part of her story with her brother. |
| when the guy u hated the most out of the DR3 cast becomes .... well at least top 5 and that in like a few minutes D: Damn sakakura. saying i want him to live and that look on his face ;_; , not to mention the ending theme right in place there .. ugh.  |
Whoahoho said: WTF Sakakura is still alive after being stabbed? So Tenga was behind it all along, 1 more to go. It's possible the stab cauterised his wound as well since Munakata used the heated molten part of the blade to stab him. Heat then burns the flesh and closes the wound up to prevent bleeding or infection. |
| So it was the old man... Holy crap, I never expected that.... Gotta love the twists in Danganronpa, I swear. I never liked Juuzou, but this guy earned my respect during this episode. RIP. That was really a touching scene.... Last episode next week. Hoping for a decent wrap-up! |
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| Hmm nice episode , i dont realy think the killer game maker is mr tengan i think it still can be mitarai. |
| So, in conclusion, Tengan is the mastermind, or maybe another person ? obvious mitarai didn't do anything wrong. if you watch the second danganronpa 3, it's obvious. mitarai just got played around by junko and by the remnants of despair. and one more thing, how is it going on hinata's side ? is it okay ? when will he appear again ? seriously, what the heck will happen in the final episode. i'm guessing it will continue. i don't think or i doubt it will end like this. but again, it's very stupid indeed. he just got played around by junko and blackmailed by junko just because he's a gay. that's one of the lmao fucking thing i have seen from danganronpa tbh. overall, it was a good and interesting episode. next episode will be the last, or will it ? xD looking foward to the next episode xD xD XD |
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Creepy_Noire_fan said: ^thisSakakura just became the "bro of the year" Enjoying the Mirai-hen arc pretty well, can't wait for the last ep. |
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| >Tengan >A Junko lackey Nooooo! kawaii-despair said: Didn't watch the ep yet bc fucking thanks funi but I guess it was basically this kawaii-despair said: ^^^All of thisI can't believe I woke up so early just to watch the ep and cry first thing in the morning. I'd go crazy too if I had to listen to that backwards music holy shit. That was to depressing to express through words Juzo went from being one of my least favorite characters to becoming one of my favorites, now that's not something that happens often, RIP ultimate homo bro Totally didn't see that monitor suicide thing coming, good job Kodaka AKA one of the best trolls in the whole anime industry |
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| I'm just waiting for them to unsurprisingly NOT raise Kirigiri from the dead next episode. It's not gonna happen just so waifutards can have a happy ending. One episode left, they cant keep Izuru away from us any longer... Right? |
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TecoTek said: when the guy u hated the most out of the DR3 cast becomes .... well at least top 5 and that in like a few minutes D: Damn sakakura. saying i want him to live and that look on his face ;_; , not to mention the ending theme right in place there .. ugh. Same thing with Natsuki Subaru right? Episode 13-17 he was the worst person in the world. Then he changed in one episode after realizing all his flaws. |
trannon1 said: TecoTek said: when the guy u hated the most out of the DR3 cast becomes .... well at least top 5 and that in like a few minutes D: Damn sakakura. saying i want him to live and that look on his face ;_; , not to mention the ending theme right in place there .. ugh. Same thing with Natsuki Subaru right? Episode 13-17 he was the worst person in the world. Then he changed in one episode after realizing all his flaws. Not to me. While Subaru went through a major overhaul and felt both guilty and apologetic with pretty much everything that he acted terribly in, Juzo's still pretty much an ass. He hasn't really felt guilty with all the other wrong things he clearly did. Only things he felt guilty of were not being able to save Yukizome (I think), letting Junko go and getting himself blackmailed by her like that (which I honestly found extremely petty of him), and that he basically failed at being the extremely loyal and devoted helper of Munakata as he felt ultimately abandoned since he was betrayed and gravely wounded by him later on. |
| Great ep, and Juzo with the successful redemption ;_; |
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| Or maybe they can just close their eyes when watching that video |
Shirobako is AOTY 2015. Deal with it. |
Yasamura said: Or maybe they can just close their eyes when watching that video Except Zetsubou-hen already showed that the video also prevents that...Unless you just close your eyes from the beggining, you screwed... |
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HyperL said: Yasamura said: Or maybe they can just close their eyes when watching that video Except Zetsubou-hen already showed that the video also prevents that...Unless you just close your eyes from the beggining, you screwed... Also the video in the Future arc is a more perfected version, it ourtight makes someone want to kill themselves rather than making them just enjoy feeling and causing despair |
| OMG What an episode! And i thought that this anime would suck since it wasn't that great as the first one, finally! What a plot twist, i can't believe that it was a video that made them kill themselves.... That was so genius xD They were basically doubting and killing each other for nothing. Can't wait for the last episode. |
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| I guess the two that is still alive is Juzo and Tengan? Way to go to destroy my hope Kirigiri is alive... I guess the "cure" all antidote that fall down when she died doesn't really mean anything... Kodaka just add that so that the hardcore fans will notice it and make their own assumptions and theory when it really doesn't mean anything other than he is trolling us... Also isn't Kodaka is Asahina fan? That would explain everything... Correct me if I am wrong though |
| The Bromance is strong with this one, Only Munakata survives from the trio... Kinda ironic how Chisa went full despair, but Sakakura draw his last breath to save the day instead... RIP Sakakura With all that brainwashing video theory going on long before this episode, I found the revelation less surprising, it might because another reason tho... still, someone stopped "Despair Naegi" before he stab himself to death, Haa! Lucky!! great episode, So only 1 eps to go right? Can't wait for the finale :) |
| I actually felt bad for Sakakura and didn't really want him to die. I never liked or disliked him but his feelings for Munakata touched me. He did survive the first time but now he's dead for real. :( Munakata has no one now but I guess this will push him to view things in a different light. Well, even if Sakakura lived and stayed by Munakata's side, his feelings would remain one-sided, right? So I guess we could say that Kirigiri is dead for sure now? Well, I think this is better than her conveniently coming back to life which would be ridiculous. Honestly, I never shipped anyone in this franchise, so I don't really care whether Naegi ends up with someone or not. Only one episode left and we'll finally get to know who the real mastermind is? Could Tengan possibly be the one behind all this? Can't believe he's still alive. I think there's someone else behind the scenes. Would this series get a happy ending? |
| Poor Munakata.. can't even save Sakakura.. I have a feeling that he will die soon as well :/ So it was the effect of that video? What a irony.. They've been tricked by the same way that turned all of Class 77 students into Despair :| Izuru where? =3= Next week is the final episode! Hope it will explain anything. |
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| "Sakakura is our hero. He saved everything." No he didn't. He was actually gonna kill Naegi but he was busy monologuing and he lost all his arm strength for a moment due to blood loss. He snapped Naegi out of his confusion accidentally and giving him enough time to tell him the truth. Kyousuke knew the layout of the building so he and the others would have turned off the power eventually 'cause the secret room was completely exposed already. They also knew the secret of the monitors so they could avoid another death. LMAO it seems like almost everyone of the fans have been brainwashed by Kodaka. Good job Kodaka, Good Job. |
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amc9988 said: Also isn't Kodaka is Asahina fan? That would explain everything... Correct me if I am wrong though He said that his favorite DR1 girls are Toko and Junko. |
| They fucking got us all...all the theories....everything we thought we knew.....toss in the can. But hey I was the only to say the chairman Tengan was the mastermind. There was one scene with Kirigi where he was looking a little off. I would get crap on by everyone I knew...but I was right!! YES!!! Give me my prize!~ |
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BaconKingpin said: Is tengan a remnant of despair? What if Tengan is the mastermind behind everything that has happened since the first game? It's probably just a theory that Munakata catched due he's already investigated Hope's Peak. Who knows that probably being truth. ..Makoto will gotta using "Truth" bullets tho-- for finale episode XDD TecoTek said: when the guy u hated the most out of the DR3 cast becomes .... well at least top 5 and that in like a few minutes D: Damn sakakura. saying i want him to live and that look on his face ;_; , not to mention the ending theme right in place there .. ugh. This part of lyrics totally makes me almost cries ;-; RIP Best DR3 Male Ever >< |
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