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Sep 11, 2016 1:30 PM

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Hagita x Azu is the best couple of this anime. I love to see their interactions.

Naho, Naho, Naho *sigh*
Way to go, dumb dumb. Suwa is stealing your place as the protagonist, gurl.

(About Kakeru, just talking about my own experiences, my dad has depression and was really, really bad last year. And he was acting EXACTLY like Kakeru. Specially the part when he was really fine on a week and then BOOOM a big explosion of anger. It is really a horrible disease :( But I understand it can come off was being an asshole to some people, you need a lot of patience when dealing with these kinda of things :S )

Sep 11, 2016 1:31 PM

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tbh i dont want Suwa to end up with Naho, he deserves better 😤
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shiroi-ookami said:
lancheusan said:


THANK YOU for saying that. I think a lot of people on here don't realize that deeply depressed people can be very much like Kakeru. It's easy to say "wow Kakeru is a dick," but then again if you have had interactions with someone who committed suicide you would see that his behavior is not so crazy after all. And you wouldn't blame him for it.
Kakeru probably thought Naho understood his regret but then was deeply disturbed that she clearly didn't understand because she was trying to pull him away from seeing his grandma, when that exact circumstance "led" to Kakeru's mom's death. And again that feeling was amplified to anger because his mom's death was so recent/he's depressed and suicidal. So no, Kakeru is not just throwing a hissy fit.


It makes me both sad and furious to see how ppl can just easily say "yeah, I UNDERSTAND he has a sad past and is sick, BUT he needs to get his sh*t together". And when a depressed person commits suicide, they go like "What a coward! He's selfish and weak!" Depression is like living in hell where many things you perceive is twisted in a way that you ultimately blame yourself for them. You blame yourself for bad things happening, for ppl getting hurt, even if it's not your fault, hell, you even feel your existence is a burden and impertinence. Ppl saying here, that they feel empathic and understanding don't actually understand what a depressed person is going through, otherwise they wouldn't judge Kakeru's actions. You cannot look at the actions of a depressed person with a judgemental eye, because their actions are oftentimes not logical. And yes, Kakeru is acting carefree and doesn't say what he's feeling. It's common for depressed person to keep it to himself, and there are many reasons. One may be that they constantly feel that they don't want to burden other ppl with their problems (since they already feel guilty for even existing). EVEN if others say that they'd like to help, it's not easy to just change that kind of thinking. That's why it's better to seek out professional help.


Yes yes yes thanks for writing this! Depression, especially to the point where Kakeru is at, is an awful dark hole. It's sad that there's still such a stigma around it in 2016
Sep 11, 2016 1:43 PM
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taynis said:
Hagita x Azu is the best couple of this anime. I love to see their interactions.

Naho, Naho, Naho *sigh*
Way to go, dumb dumb. Suwa is stealing your place as the protagonist, gurl.

(About Kakeru, just talking about my own experiences, my dad has depression and was really, really bad last year. And he was acting EXACTLY like Kakeru. Specially the part when he was really fine on a week and then BOOOM a big explosion of anger. It is really a horrible disease :( But I understand it can come off was being an asshole to some people, you need a lot of patience when dealing with these kinda of things :S )


Thank you also!!!
Sep 11, 2016 1:47 PM

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shiroi-ookami said:
lancheusan said:


THANK YOU for saying that. I think a lot of people on here don't realize that deeply depressed people can be very much like Kakeru. It's easy to say "wow Kakeru is a dick," but then again if you have had interactions with someone who committed suicide you would see that his behavior is not so crazy after all. And you wouldn't blame him for it.
Kakeru probably thought Naho understood his regret but then was deeply disturbed that she clearly didn't understand because she was trying to pull him away from seeing his grandma, when that exact circumstance "led" to Kakeru's mom's death. And again that feeling was amplified to anger because his mom's death was so recent/he's depressed and suicidal. So no, Kakeru is not just throwing a hissy fit.


It makes me both sad and furious to see how ppl can just easily say "yeah, I UNDERSTAND he has a sad past and is sick, BUT he needs to get his sh*t together". And when a depressed person commits suicide, they go like "What a coward! He's selfish and weak!" Depression is like living in hell where many things you perceive is twisted in a way that you ultimately blame yourself for them. You blame yourself for bad things happening, for ppl getting hurt, even if it's not your fault, hell, you even feel your existence is a burden and impertinence. Ppl saying here, that they feel empathic and understanding don't actually understand what a depressed person is going through, otherwise they wouldn't judge Kakeru's actions. You cannot look at the actions of a depressed person with a judgemental eye, because their actions are oftentimes not logical. And yes, Kakeru is acting carefree and doesn't say what he's feeling. It's common for depressed person to keep it to himself, and there are many reasons. One may be that they constantly feel that they don't want to burden other ppl with their problems (since they already feel guilty for even existing). EVEN if others say that they'd like to help, it's not easy to just change that kind of thinking. That's why it's better to seek out professional help.


Reading this I'm realizing you are responding to my defense of those who are calling Kakeru a jerk and then in turn stating we don't understand what a depressed person goes though, makes me wonder - how do you know what others go through? Because yes, not everyone has had the experience of living with a depressed loved one/being depressed themselves which makes it very easy for them to show empathy towards the other characters in the show (because there are other characters in the show besides Kakeru and Naho, and they matter as well) while others who may suffer from depression or have a loved one in their life can also take a stance in feeling something for all the characters on the show as opposed to instantly defending Kakeru's actions. Another point I want to state is that he nature of the beast that is depression changes from individual to individual, because not every depressed person follows the pattern you explained or the one Kakeru is showcasing in Orange - So another person's experience in the real world with a depressed person can be vastly different.

Another point I want to bring up - if they didn't understand Kakeru's plight do you honestly think they would have stuck through the anime for 11 episodes now?
Sep 11, 2016 1:49 PM

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"Even if kakeru was alive I would have married you because of the way you confessed to me that day"
But in parallel timeline,suwa didn't express his feelings so get over SuwaXNaho over here :3
Sep 11, 2016 1:52 PM

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I don't really get why so much hatred towards kakeru,he is the guy who is suffering the most,his mother died and literally an orphan now,the more worst thing is that he's taking all the blame on himself.
Sep 11, 2016 1:53 PM

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lancheusan said:
HanaeX said:
I feel like people are forgetting Kakeru is dealing with some real depression issues.
Really depressed people can be like Kakeru.
As for Naho, well I just suck it up :V
Already know how it's going to end so I'm just watching the anime for th feels :')


THANK YOU for saying that. I think a lot of people on here don't realize that deeply depressed people can be very much like Kakeru. It's easy to say "wow Kakeru is a dick," but then again if you have had interactions with someone who committed suicide you would see that his behavior is not so crazy after all. And you wouldn't blame him for it.
Kakeru probably thought Naho understood his regret but then was deeply disturbed that she clearly didn't understand because she was trying to pull him away from seeing his grandma, when that exact circumstance "led" to Kakeru's mom's death. And again that feeling was amplified to anger because his mom's death was so recent/he's depressed and suicidal. So no, Kakeru is not just throwing a hissy fit.


Exactly what you said!
I've dealt with a lot of depressed people and even had someone close to me that choose suicide and it ain't easy for them, really not.
How much they want to laugh, to move forward, to feel happy, the thoughts take over.
Even though they tell Kakeru to tell what's wrong and he is laughing, it doesn't mean he's 100% okay again.
That's what this story is telling us. They got another chance to help him through this worse situation so he won't think of suicide this time around.
Sep 11, 2016 1:56 PM

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RoyTF said:
"Even if kakeru was alive I would have married you because of the way you confessed to me that day"
But in parallel timeline,suwa didn't express his feelings so get over SuwaXNaho over here :3

Forgot to point this out, but exactly what you said.
In the original timeline he confessed and he died. If he didn't die there still was a chance that NahoXKakeru would happen.
We're in a parallel timeline now where Suwa choose not to interrupt a relation between two by confessing but rather helping them out.
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RoyTF said:
I don't really get why so much hatred towards kakeru,he is the guy who is suffering the most,his mother died and literally an orphan now,the more worst thing is that he's taking all the blame on himself.


I don't exactly hate the guy - I understand his plight and what he was left with however it's hard not to feel for the others that surround him.
Sep 11, 2016 2:10 PM

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Damn....get Kakeru dome Prozac!

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Sep 11, 2016 2:13 PM

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Sep 11, 2016 2:15 PM

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Suwa is seriously the BRO of the century. My man is sacrificing sooo much!

I want to say Naho is an idiot, but man it's hard to hold back helping someone when you care so much about them, or try to say the right things when you don't even know what the right things are.

Honestly right now, I hope Kakeru still gets it in the end...I know that's messed up but he's been pissing me off.
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Sep 11, 2016 2:20 PM

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DamnThatPanda said:
shiroi-ookami said:


It makes me both sad and furious to see how ppl can just easily say "yeah, I UNDERSTAND he has a sad past and is sick, BUT he needs to get his sh*t together". And when a depressed person commits suicide, they go like "What a coward! He's selfish and weak!" Depression is like living in hell where many things you perceive is twisted in a way that you ultimately blame yourself for them. You blame yourself for bad things happening, for ppl getting hurt, even if it's not your fault, hell, you even feel your existence is a burden and impertinence. Ppl saying here, that they feel empathic and understanding don't actually understand what a depressed person is going through, otherwise they wouldn't judge Kakeru's actions. You cannot look at the actions of a depressed person with a judgemental eye, because their actions are oftentimes not logical. And yes, Kakeru is acting carefree and doesn't say what he's feeling. It's common for depressed person to keep it to himself, and there are many reasons. One may be that they constantly feel that they don't want to burden other ppl with their problems (since they already feel guilty for even existing). EVEN if others say that they'd like to help, it's not easy to just change that kind of thinking. That's why it's better to seek out professional help.


Reading this I'm realizing you are responding to my defense of those who are calling Kakeru a jerk and then in turn stating we don't understand what a depressed person goes though, makes me wonder - how do you know what others go through? Because yes, not everyone has had the experience of living with a depressed loved one/being depressed themselves which makes it very easy for them to show empathy towards the other characters in the show (because there are other characters in the show besides Kakeru and Naho, and they matter as well) while others who may suffer from depression or have a loved one in their life can also take a stance in feeling something for all the characters on the show as opposed to instantly defending Kakeru's actions. Another point I want to state is that he nature of the beast that is depression changes from individual to individual, because not every depressed person follows the pattern you explained or the one Kakeru is showcasing in Orange - So another person's experience in the real world with a depressed person can be vastly different.

Another point I want to bring up - if they didn't understand Kakeru's plight do you honestly think they would have stuck through the anime for 11 episodes now?


It may sound like I was just defending Kakeru's actions. But I do also feel empathic towards the other characters. One thing that I don't like about the anime is, that the other characters, aside from the main couple, are basically just there, other than Suwa. And yes, Kakeru is acting like a "jerk", from an objective point of view. But as you amptly put it, depression can express itself differently from person to person. So that's why I said, that you cannot explain and look at a depressed person's actions logically nor objectively. I do see why ppl are annoyed by his actions, since I also partly felt it initally when I saw how he acted. But I can tell you that the scenes of Kakeru's depression hit home personally. So, I can understand both sides, I was just merely stating things regarding depression, because I see more reactions of ppl that don't seem to understand the illness. Which I don't blame them for. But I cannot help to feel conflicted about the reactions.
As for why ppl would stick around. Well, It's basically a love story, not really a story about the illness itself. And ppl also stick around not only for Kakeru and Naho, but also because of the other characters. And some may be curious how the story would end. I've read the manga, so I know how it ends but not everyone here has.
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Ya all.....if you wanna save Kakeru, then just keep Naho away from him TBH

or well just honestly, at this point, i think they should let specialist take over. The kid is depressed and suicidal. That's not something they can handle alone anymore.
Sep 11, 2016 2:31 PM

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shiroi-ookami said:
DamnThatPanda said:


Reading this I'm realizing you are responding to my defense of those who are calling Kakeru a jerk and then in turn stating we don't understand what a depressed person goes though, makes me wonder - how do you know what others go through? Because yes, not everyone has had the experience of living with a depressed loved one/being depressed themselves which makes it very easy for them to show empathy towards the other characters in the show (because there are other characters in the show besides Kakeru and Naho, and they matter as well) while others who may suffer from depression or have a loved one in their life can also take a stance in feeling something for all the characters on the show as opposed to instantly defending Kakeru's actions. Another point I want to state is that he nature of the beast that is depression changes from individual to individual, because not every depressed person follows the pattern you explained or the one Kakeru is showcasing in Orange - So another person's experience in the real world with a depressed person can be vastly different.

Another point I want to bring up - if they didn't understand Kakeru's plight do you honestly think they would have stuck through the anime for 11 episodes now?


It may sound like I was just defending Kakeru's actions. But I do also feel empathic towards the other characters. One thing that I don't like about the anime is, that the other characters, aside fromt the main couple, come too short imo, that they basically are just there, other than Suwa. And yes, Kakeru is acting like a "jerk", from an objective point of view. But as you amptly put it, depression can express itself differently from person to person. So that's why I said, that you cannot explain and look at a depressed person's actions logically nor objectively. I do see why ppl are annoyed by his actions, since I also partly felt it initally when I saw how he acted. But I can tell you that the scenes of Kakeru's depression hit home personally. So, I can understand both sides, I was just merely stating things regarding depression, because I see more reactions of ppl that don't seem to understand the illness. Which I don't blame them for. But I cannot help to feel conflicted about the reactions.
As for why ppl would stick around. Well, It's basically a love story, not really a story about the illness itself. And ppl also stick around not only for Kakeru and Naho, but also because of the other characters. And some may be curious how the story would end. I've read the manga, so I know how it ends but not everyone here has.


Honestly, I feel others do understand they are just choosing to look at the whole thing objectively - because assuming that other viewers aren't understanding what they are watching is an insult to their intelligence.
Sep 11, 2016 2:32 PM

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if this anime wants to redeem, then they should give us an Ending like this: EMOru gets Slaughtered by Naho School Days Version and she ends up with Suwa, that would be perfect

I hate Emoru, my God, how annoying this kid can be? I understand now the feels this show is supposed to give: PURE RAGE... I feel bad for Suwa tho...

btw, they show us that scene when they are all grown up, "i would marry Suwa if EMOru was alive" oh yeah? then why would you make a letter telling yourself from the past, to "save" EMOru?
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Sep 11, 2016 2:32 PM

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I'm officially convinced that Takako is the only character in this series that hasn't pissed me off.

Suwa has the ultimate bro level though. Naho is a dense fuck and Kakeru is letting his grief get the better of him.
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DamnThatPanda said:
shiroi-ookami said:


It may sound like I was just defending Kakeru's actions. But I do also feel empathic towards the other characters. One thing that I don't like about the anime is, that the other characters, aside fromt the main couple, come too short imo, that they basically are just there, other than Suwa. And yes, Kakeru is acting like a "jerk", from an objective point of view. But as you amptly put it, depression can express itself differently from person to person. So that's why I said, that you cannot explain and look at a depressed person's actions logically nor objectively. I do see why ppl are annoyed by his actions, since I also partly felt it initally when I saw how he acted. But I can tell you that the scenes of Kakeru's depression hit home personally. So, I can understand both sides, I was just merely stating things regarding depression, because I see more reactions of ppl that don't seem to understand the illness. Which I don't blame them for. But I cannot help to feel conflicted about the reactions.
As for why ppl would stick around. Well, It's basically a love story, not really a story about the illness itself. And ppl also stick around not only for Kakeru and Naho, but also because of the other characters. And some may be curious how the story would end. I've read the manga, so I know how it ends but not everyone here has.


Honestly, I feel others do understand they are just choosing to look at the whole thing objectively - because assuming that other viewers aren't understanding what they are watching is an insult to their intelligence.


Wasn't my intention. I didn't say that they don't understand what they are WATCHING (the story is, as I said, a love story basically that shows parts of depression). And understanding depression has nth to do with rational intelligence btw, it's more emotionally, and that is sth hard to get if you've never experienced it. So it's only natural that ppl feel more for the other characters since they understand them better. I find your comments reasonable, I was just addressing it partly, more in response to other comments saying things like that Kakeru should die and such. And I'm not saying that being sick excuses you from anything. Like I said, I was also initally annoyed by Kakeru, but reading some comments here makes me want to explain things regarding Kakeru. Doesn't mean that I'm ONLY seeing Kakeru's plight.
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Naho, you knew exactly what you said last time, you couldn't come more prepared this time. That's so lame.
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Yautja said:


Kakeru, we get to see he is still largely rejecting any helping hand or comfort and then snapping at the person offering it, for trivial reasons. He treats the people who try to help him most like absolute shit. Honestly, the way he acts and treats other is bordering on offensive. The way his "depression" is portrayed is childish and almost insulting, instead of making me sympathize with him, makes me hate him..


Depression is very, very selfish. It won't let you see beyond your own misery. Been there, done that.
Sep 11, 2016 2:56 PM

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The art and animation in this episode were way better than in the previous episodes. Guess they're trying to keep it consistent now up till the finale.

Anyway, great episode. Hopefully they can wrap it up nicely in the remaining episodes. But damn, Suwa ;__;....

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I kinda hope Kakeru ends up dying and Naho still ends up with Suwa

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That's a pretty damn awful thing to say.
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Will Kakeru die in the next episode? I hopp not.
Poor Suwa :'(




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Sep 11, 2016 3:15 PM

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Suwa amazing.

Not only he went against the biggest emotional pain you can have, keeping love feelings hidden, and yet standing by his friend who maybe might die because of this pain, although his friends have a different opinion of it. (Seems Suwa goes like for safety decision here)

Additionaly, his decision not to confess went also against his own future, knowing the fact that the confession would lead to marriage and own happyness. He arguments in front of his friends with the multiple words. In my eyes this argument is an "excuse", satisfying the friends and not have to explain that he won't confess, even though Suwa will never "feel" the marriage with Naho because he's not in the future world.

Basically, Suwa has thrown away in worst of the case all his hopes and his love Naho to prevent a friend from dying, though it's not even sure that Kakeru would die because of the confession.

I mean, guys, when I realized all that, I realized also what an amazing character Suwa actually is.
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Sep 11, 2016 3:16 PM

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Naho should've asked if she could come with Kakeru to meet his grandma rather than asking him to stay...

I'm scared about how this story will end.

Everyone's worried about Suwa but I'm more worried about Kakeru. Suwa is a great guy for sure, but he doesn't need Naho right now. Kakeru does. Even if Kakeru and Naho don't date, Naho devotes her full attention to him, and he needs to know someone will always be there when he needs them. Suwa can wait until they no longer feel that Kakeru's life is in danger. Waiting to confess won't change the future, because if Naho and Suwa are truly meant to be, then their love can wait. Yes, it will hurt Suwa in the meantime, but like I said, Kakeru's life is in danger, and Suwa's isn't.

Reading these comments makes me very sad. People saying Kakeru should die, that he's purposely refusing help from his friends, or that he's letting his grief get the best of him. That's just the thing, though. That's what depression is. That's what it does. Saying that he should die is horrible. I just hope you guys wouldn't treat someone in real life like that because their depression is "annoying." Please educate yourself on depression, okay? Please?
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Naho is so stupid AHHHH why you may ask? She knew beforehand and still mess it up, AGAIN!
Sep 11, 2016 3:28 PM

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I don't see why Naho didn't just go with Kakeru... Is it because it's the most logical thing to do?
Dammit, Naho gets more and more frustrating to watch.
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Jesus christ. I fell really bad for Suwa, he is an angel...
On the other part, I don't understand that double personality of Kakeru. I know he is having a bad moment and he is frightened about losing his grandma, but my god, is it a reason to treat Naho like that!? And for breaking the phone when the poor girl is trying to say sorry for sure? Really? I was amazed in that moment.
This problem is probably going to be solved, but surely Kakeru is going to have more rage moments like this and will do the same to Naho. I only expect him to control his rage and to take into account Nahos feelings when he goes like that.
I have the sensation that Kakeru takes advantage of the situation where Naho and him love each other and Suwa is not going to fuck them...
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Well...
As a person who fought against depression I can ensure you...

Everyone around you, you want to avoid them, you dont want to express yourself, you think that the world sucks, you think your life sucks and is all your fault, you think that nobody can understand you. You are in constant fear, sadness, anger.

Family and friends.. you hurt them ALL THE TIME.
I mean even me looking from the outside would think : Jesus this person is a dick.
But is not intentional, its depression.

I had suicidal thoughts several times...
Luckily the people around did not give up on me.

Kakeru... he is my self insertion in this show, in summary.
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dunnu about you but that kakkeru guy is really dumb af
i say they did enough to save him
and if he still wanna die so be it

and that suwa guy...
what a moron tho he as a person he is GOLD but he just did wrong about not carrying for his own happiness...
Sep 11, 2016 4:02 PM

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every time i see that kakeru guy doing something stupid again i just luoght people like him souldn't be saved
he's reason to die is silly and quite stupid just for god sake
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Naho is a fucking idiot

The letter specifically tells her to watch her tongue yet she tells him that her grandma with pneumonia is going to be okay, and wants him to stay even though he wants to be at her grandmother's bedside. Just end the night there and call him later would be the best thing to do, but she pretty much chose the most retarded route possible.

Is she autistic?

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All praise your lord and savior Saint Suwa, the authors biggest wet dream.
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Well...
As a person who fought against depression I can ensure you...

Everyone around you, you want to avoid them, you dont want to express yourself, you think that the world sucks, you think your life sucks and is all your fault, you think that nobody can understand you. You are in constant fear, sadness, anger.

Family and friends.. you hurt them ALL THE TIME.
I mean even me looking from the outside would think : Jesus this person is a dick.
But is not intentional, its depression.

I had suicidal thoughts several times...
Luckily the people around did not give up on me.

Kakeru... he is my self insertion in this show, in summary.


i glad that you are all right now
but kakeru back ground coudn't explain shit about his reason

so how his mom was mentally retarded and sick and she didn't give his son freedom
and when he decided to have fun once she suicide

after all that he wanna kill him self...ok that already fucked up
his mother was sick and the guy was bond to her
0 sense in why should he feel that guilty on the scale to suicide
he life tought simse to be quite good friends
a loving grandmother

if we were told he was indepretion without his mother death and it was the triger i would understand but
we weren't so... just silly of him.

also his friends trying their best for him and i think they did enough
and i clrealy cannot understand why would they feel guilty if he decide to suicide after all they done
in the original 10 years i would guess they didn't knew and tryied and it was reasonable to want save him but
for the new future they created they clrealy did enough
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Hagita & Azusa are the best.

Poor Suwa giving up Naho so Naho & Kakeru can be happy together.

Now there is a fight.
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Sep 11, 2016 4:18 PM
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Naho is dense af.

3/5
Sep 11, 2016 4:19 PM

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Holy shit this show is so frustrating to watch
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Suwa just wanted his dream girl to be with pysco pass who want to kill him self
dunnu if he retarded or not
but i would never want any of my close friend to be with someone who is mentally sick.
just it.

kakeru is retard his reason to die is retarded every thing about his character is retarded
by the looks he is the "perfect" dude who got everything from talent to friend
except his mother was mentaly sick and killed her self because he was to "selfish" and one day
left her alone.

+ we get that his mother also restricted him from almost anything
so why is he so upset ?
his mother was a burden on him, and didn't let him do the basic thing a kid a child would want
i dont understand why would he love his mother so much
and want to kill him self to be with her (or say sorry)

so every thing about why he depresset is FUCKED UP
and after all the thing his friends did to help him
they should even sacrifice them self for him?
SCREW him
if he wanna that sick to see his mother so be it.
leave him alone let him do what he desire.

of course Naho also retarded character dense af
+ she seriously want to date that dude...
i'am done
+ Suwa seriously wanna let her date this guy...
and maybe make her life miserable by that choice the endless suffering of trying to make kakeru happy enough so he wont suicide on the next day(because his mother waiting for him)
Sep 11, 2016 4:27 PM

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holy shit...this anime is getting worse every episode ... and i liked the start a lot...

naho doesn't know how to handle this...i was like...just go with him instead...
kakeru is an idiot...i mean...he has the reason of his mother dying and all that...but wtf...you don't randomly hit naho and break your phone...
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Sep 11, 2016 4:33 PM

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Naho most dense MC 2016 confirmed.
Sep 11, 2016 4:33 PM

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I don't really know what to say anymore. I understand that Kakeru is depressed, but it really makes me feel bad for everyone around him. Especially Naho. Sure, a lot of it's because she's bad at taking action, but I can't help but feel bad for her. Also, something I would've loved to see happen would've been Naho saying "I got a letter" so that Kakeru wouldn't have left. Also, I feel terrible for best bro Suwa. He really should've just confessed his feelings.
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Sep 11, 2016 4:55 PM
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Suwa had the one thing that puts him above everyone else in this show, The Heart of a Hero
Sep 11, 2016 4:59 PM

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i hate this anime... i give it a 5/5... but i hate it...
only going to comment on Suwa:
his future self really put the feels into the episode, sending suwa all those photos of his family, Suwa is ultimate.
Everything is repeating itself, but he still makes the move, thinking of naho and kakeru instead of naho and himself.
I am glad Suwa is happy and got support from his friends, he was leaning towards depression.

Sep 11, 2016 5:29 PM

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Decent Ep. Animation improved alot which is a good sign, Kakeru still being treated like a puppy which is kind of annoying, its obvious naho doesnt have "real" feelings for him unlike her future self, shes just worried about him killing himself... and i honestly wouldnt care if kakeru got quickscoped by faze apex himself... anyway, the way this shows going if it doesnt finish up the story on episode 13 theres probably no way there will be a season two... without getting off topic i guess ill give this episode a 3/5

*suwa comes in clutch again* even tho he will probably end up with naho in the end anyway ._.
Sep 11, 2016 5:33 PM
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What Suwa is doing is totally wrong. He is not thinking about himself even a little.

But, actually I would do the same thing as he did in this episode XD


Overall, Suwa is the star of this episode with no doubt
Sep 11, 2016 6:31 PM

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Suwa is too holy for the series.

Man.. Naho's actions can be so annoying sometimes. Despite knowing what would happen if she told him to stay behind she decided to anyway.
Sep 11, 2016 6:42 PM

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Ok I did not expect future Suwa to tell his high school self that he not only marries Naho, but also makes babies with her. And what's more, future Suwa even sends pictures of his baby with Naho. But despite knowing that this kind of future awaits him if he confesses his feelings to Naho, he still tries to avoid this kind of outcome. His future self laments that he didn't do anything despite knowing how Naho and Kakeru feel for each other. He ended up stealing Naho from Kakeru. But Naho says that she might have married Suwa even if Kakeru was alive. She was most likely saying this because of that fight she had with him for which she didn't apologize. Future Suwa, after showing his high school self his future wife, still tells him to furiously ship Kakeru and Naho. Future Suwa isn't exactly happy with this outcome and wants Naho to be truly happy which is why he's telling his high school self to throw away this seemingly perfect future for the sake of Naho's happiness. Suwa is as awesome as a guy can get.

Suwa is trying to avoid the situation where he comforts a crying Naho and tells her how he feels, by not coming on new years eve at all. Hagita is of the opinion that changing the future may not be the best option. Changing the future while benefiting some people, ends up making someone else lose something. Azu and Takako are of the opinion that Suwa shouldn't give up on trying to get that future for himself where he marries Naho. If anything, he should at least confess his feelings to her. But Suwa is a bro among bros so he isn't going to do that.

Naho ends up pissing off Kakeru despite knowing that she shouldn't. And to make things worse, she doesn't apologize despite knowing that she really should have no matter what. When Kakeru blew up with anger, I was almost literally screaming "apologize god dammit!" And Suwa knew that Naho is bound to screw up big time here so he should be there for her. And he gets the exact same situation his future self got, comforting a crying Naho who thinks that maybe Kakeru hates her now. And instead of telling her that he will be there for her even if Kakeru hates her, he tells her that if things don't work out he'll drag Kakeru to her to make things work out. And unlike his future self, he tells Naho to go after him and apologize to make things right because this event is most likely the trigger which sends Kakeru deep into depression, never to come out again. Kakeru later on regrets this and thinks he went too far which is the reason behind his apology in his final message to Naho. Naho has to prevent that right now. And after this will come the final valentine's day event where Naho will have to give Kakeru those chocolates or he'll die.

The ending sequence changed again and they show the future versions without Kakeru, then they show the high school versions without Kakeru, and then the high school versions with Kakeru.

Naho unsurprisingly screws up here despite knowing what to do and what effects this will have on Kakeru. I think she could have asked to accompany Kakeru to his house or something if she didn't want to leave Kakeru alone that badly. But this is Naho we're talking about, like hell she'd have any new ideas to change the situation. She can't do the important stuff when they really matter. She probably panicked after seeing that anger from Kakeru and couldn't bring herself to do anything other than letting tears well up. She always needs that push from someone to get her to do something. And in almost every case, it's Suwa pushing her.

One noticeable thing here was that there were less crappie shots. The occasional cringe worthy terribleness was there, but overall it had less crappie scenes than the previous couple of episodes which is good.
Sep 11, 2016 7:05 PM

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Kakeru needs to get punched in the face
Sep 11, 2016 9:15 PM

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She screws up again. :/
Seriously, why was she so intent on making him stay. Let the kid see his grandmother.

Yet again Suwa saves the day. What a god. ^^

Because THIS is the day that Kakeru dies. Naho is afraid of leaving him alone because the second that happens, Kakeru is gonna commit suicide.

And to be honest I'm getting really pissed at this kid. Ok he has regret, he feels guilt, but he is so freaking unstable. At one second he laughs and the next one he lashes at you. Despite the many conversations, heavy talks, emotional support and everything the gang has done to tell him he did nothing wrong, he still feels like he should die and lashes out at anybody who attempts to comfort him.

Yes he has a heavy burden, but it is getting really intolerant and unjustified how dumb he can get. But the question still remains, how the heck to make him finally let go of that guilt and that feeling of killing himself.

Suwa did the "right" move by not confessing otherwise the events would repeat themselves. I really would like that somehow he confessed after everything got solved but that seems unlikely. While throwing away his feelings for Naho cannot exactly be called the best, I think he realizes that their love came into fruition as a result of tragic events more so than love itself.

Now next episode is gonna about how the gang will prevent the suicide.
Sep 11, 2016 10:10 PM

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Compared with the others this was a fucking awsome episode, the characters design got better and the ost was amazing, the feelings were there.
The only thing is, why does Kakeru reacts like that?, I'd never be able to do that to a kind of girl that is insecure, I mean, you need to think in other people feelings.

Fucking Kakeru. Hero Suwa
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