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Aug 16, 2009 12:10 AM
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Aug 16, 2009 9:47 AM
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That episode had me smiling the whole way through. Zetsubou Sensei is epic, SHAFT keep it comin!
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Aug 30, 2009 3:52 AM
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The first part is so true as I often spend so much money on the printer ink T_T
LOL at the assemble-it-yourself body parts sensei. I would buy if there was one available hahaha.

Chiri is becoming more violent with each episode.

Horie Yui's drawing was rather cute.
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Aug 30, 2009 10:44 AM
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Solid episode. I didn't really laugh until everyone talked about how not surprised by Chiri's actions they are, but Majiru clocking Itoshiki upside the head with the arm was quite funny.
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Haha, brilliant episode. The loss leader part with Nedu Miko was great, as was the rest. Horie Yui's drawing included.

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Aug 30, 2009 11:41 AM
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hahaha, my sweet Kiri Komori is in despair ^^
Aug 30, 2009 3:10 PM
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I love how they started with Oora, she's so great, but she doesn't get enough screen time...
I'm glad that Matoi and Kiri continue to fight, everything turns out great when they do. I guess you could say it was a solid episode.
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Aug 30, 2009 3:13 PM
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It seemed like Chiri got ahold of Arale (from Dr.Slump's) earth shattering chop powers.

Was a pretty funny episode. General Frost segment was my favorite, plus Majiru's quick (psychotic) thinking of replacing the Nozomu doll with Nozomu himself was hilarious.
Aug 30, 2009 5:29 PM
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"i got bored after te first issue" XD
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Aug 30, 2009 5:38 PM

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So now with Horie Yui in Zetsubou Sensei... what good female VAs aren't in there yet? Maybe they can make some characters for people like Kugimiya Rie, Mizuki Nana, Hirano Aya, even Noto Mamiko too! ;P

On a slightly more serious note, Chiri not scaring me every episode would be surprising.

Lastly, moar continuation XD
Aug 30, 2009 7:18 PM

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Awesome episode, but then again which one wasn't? I love the new students already, even though they haven't had much screen time yet.

And did anyone else notice how much more violent Chiri is in Zan compared to the other seasons? I mean, she was homicidal from the start, but she's definitely been way more bold and outgoing in her violent exploits now than she has in the past.

Aug 30, 2009 8:22 PM

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haha .. they sure like to destroy the whole classroom


Aug 30, 2009 8:30 PM

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When the Zetsubou doll was discovered in the hermit girls room I literally burst out laughing. Great episode!
Aug 31, 2009 1:29 PM

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Okay episode. Didn't really laugh at anything but the "Don't call me normal!" and Chiri's "surprise". Oh, and Kaere's pantyshot get's me every time too.
Sep 1, 2009 3:36 AM

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Haven't been this amused with Zetsubou Sensei for a really long time. Brilliant episode.
EMPEROR PENGUIN!
Sep 1, 2009 5:34 AM

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lol "Oora! It's already next week!"
Sep 1, 2009 9:16 AM

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Anyone noticed that the picture on the phone at minute 19(?) was a picture of Franz Kafka?^^
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Sep 1, 2009 9:54 AM

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more reference:
06:43 a reference to the book The Complete Manual of Suicidehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Manual_of_Suicide
13:00 a reference to the worldcup 2006 final, zidane's sister was insulted
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373767&cc=5739
and all the names of the school this time are from the anime Slam Dunk (for example at 4:40 or 10:46)
Sep 1, 2009 10:01 AM

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confused_kitsune said:

EMPEROR PENGUIN!


This >_<

vinesage said:
more reference:
06:43 a reference to the book The Complete Manual of Suicide[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Manual_of_Suicide]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Manual_of_Suicide
13:00 a reference to the worldcup 2006 final, zidane's sister was insulted
[url=http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373767&cc=5739]http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373767&cc=5739
and all the names of the school this time are from the anime Slam Dunk (for example at 4:40 or 10:46)


lolz ty?
Sep 1, 2009 10:14 AM

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I liked it. Drawing song was weird.

Sep 1, 2009 10:15 AM

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The first part about buying cheap stuff and then having to buy expensive parts is so true! It happens to me all the time. I liked the part about the android, but why have him clean the gutters? And why did he actually go and do it? I was surprised when the ep ended because I wanted to see what the two at the end had to talk about...



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KyokoBeat said:
The first part about buying cheap stuff and then having to buy expensive parts is so true! It happens to me all the time. I liked the part about the android, but why have him clean the gutters?
Majiru, the kid, explained to Zetsubou, after he came to his conscious, that he had died in an explosion and was made into a robot. Majiru then reminded him of the "Three Laws of Robotics", which are:
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

thats why he obeyed the order from Kiri and cleaned the gutters :D
Kiri told him to clean gutters because she thought he was the robot she combined from the parts she bought. :-)

and the convo at the end will continue in the next episode...
Sep 2, 2009 1:33 PM

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This episode was one of my favourites out of all the series. Double 'Zetsubou shita!', emperor penguin, android sensei. Oh, and the surprises were also great.

Just great.
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haha the monster hunter reference was cool, and the you have to buy the next issue also happened to me xD lol whats up with the end^^
haha hocchans drawing is matching the lyrics xD


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When Matoi was talking about the printers, there was a little poster of the cover of the ending song's 'Zetsubou Restaurant' CD. Only this series could reference itself. Also noticed the photo of that housewife Kafuka in a frame. Haha, that's totally true about printers and Norton. My Norton subscription is finished in a month, actually. That whole sequence with Majiru was totally unexpected. I feel like I've seen that sequence already, though. I recall Itoshiki cleaning out the gutters, and Kiri acting all embarrassed over a kiss. Poor Frost Shogun. Random little shots of the students throughout that sequence, such as Kimura and that cosplaying idol appearing twice, and Jun reading with a fading Usui. Oh my god, haha, an image of Franz Kafka on Kafuka's mobile.

Poor Usui on the steamroller. Abiru was completely right; it really isn't a surprise if Chiri does something. Marui hasn't been introduced before this, I think. Oh my, all of Horie Yui's drawings. Nice little Aoi Hana/Zetsubou crossover at the end, illustrated by Shimura Takako. I'd like to see Hourou Musuko being taken up by SHAFT, actually.
Sep 6, 2009 3:58 PM
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This was a superb episode really, and there's not a single boring part. I think Fuura and Chiri have made an alliance now (or maybe Fuura is exploiting Chiri's tendency to correct imperfections with extreme actions). And Indeed, while everyone else is rather static, Fuura has been showing a more twisted personality behind the innocent act. Then again, she was shown as a rather weird girl to begin with.

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This was a superb episode really, and there's not a single boring part. I think Fuura and Chiri have made an alliance now (or maybe Fuura is exploiting Chiri's tendency to correct imperfections with extreme actions). And Indeed, while everyone else is rather static, Fuura has been showing a more twisted personality behind the innocent act. Then again, she was shown as a rather weird girl to begin with.
glad to read someone's doubting Kafuka's character as well.
When I saw those polls "Who do you think Nozomu might end up with?" and everybody voted for Kafuka just because she is the first girl appeared in anime, I was sooo left in despair. Kafuka doesnt even love Nozomu! (unlike Matoi, Kiri or even Mayo etc)
Kafuka is the "super optimistic girl" who can even find something positive in obvious crimes. (eg ep1 in S1)
I think in this season, her character increasingly resembles that of politicians who cover up (= find the positive side) and manipulate. personal opinion thpugh~
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I think someone mentioned she's a nod to Kafka who wrote a novel called Metamorphosis or something like that. That might explain it. That said, her real self is unseen, all the faces she shows are just masks, as she herself admits to having created different selves to different places, and she uses a fake name.

She might love Nozomu or she might not, it's hard to say.

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Franz Kafka wrote really twisted, slightly disturbing things. Mostly short stories. I've an anthology of said short stories, and although brilliant, some were difficult to read through. Metamorphosis is probably his seminal work, about a guy who wakes up one day, and he's after turning into a cockroach. It's strange, it's wonderful, and it's downright sad. His family basically rely on him to bring all the money in for the household, to do everything for him. When he turns into a cockroach, the family have to learn how to stop being so lazy, and start doing things for themselves. But, the family end up being cruel to him, like locking his room. The father once throws an apple at Gregor, the cockroach, and the apple stays lodged in his back, painful for months on end. You can imagine what other kinds of stories Kafka writes. And, it was mentioned earlier, if you were wondering who the man in the wallpaper on Kafuka's phone was, it was Franz Kafka himself. :)

But back to SZS!Kafka, it's not just her incredibly bizarre reasoning, or her somewhat distorted optimistic view on life which makes her my favorite, it's more that there's something eerily dark lurking behind. What a paradox. She appears to be the most cheerful, but at the same time it's hinted that she's really a horribly twisted person. Ever since the first episode, with her first appearance, in the first few minutes. The way she tries to save Nozomu backfires, and 'almost gets him killed'. If she tried to actually save him, who knows?

This could all stem in Kafuka's past, that something could have been wrong with her from earlier on. We know both her parents attempted to hang themselves (whether they succeeded or not, we don't find out), and her mother was somehow possessed (again, we've no idea how that came about, or what were the results).

Her usually abstract reasoning may seem endearing (for example, hanging oneself is 'getting taller'), but it's clear, like the most of the girls really, she's not all there. The incredibly blunt Meru cowered in fear after looking in her eyes. She, for reasons unknown, took up residence next to her teacher's home, and cooked for him, giving him food poisoning. Her career choices were incredibly odd. Perhaps she was just being absent minded, but we do wonder what's really going on with her.
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Ever since the first episode, with her first appearance, in the first few minutes. The way she tries to save Nozomu backfires, and 'almost gets him killed'. If she tried to actually save him, who knows?
She also tries to stop him from throwing himself toward the incoming train by...pushing him toward said incoming train. xD

Along the things she also makes is forcing the classmates to contact "aliens" in a rather abstract sequence, almost completely screw Kimori's mind (the possesed dolls where pretty scary I dare say), creat a pseudo-religion based on the idea that you could wish to be something in the next life (or next-next life), and I'm sure I could remember more things she's been involved in if given time. It all could be due to her rather "bizarre" family circumsntances. As you said, her parents both were troubled, and we also learn that other relatives where also rather shady (her uncle was in prison, reason not said). She indeed is the most peculiar of all the girls.

That said,if you were to ask me who my favorites where, I would say Kimori and Nami. On that note, I just remembered it is implied Fuura (or at least someone who looked a lot like her) was also the one who first called Nami "normal". You could dismiss it as reusal of character designs, but seeing many of her rather bizarre actions, it could be.

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Loved the Majiru closed part, also lol'd at I AM SHOGUN. The Aoi Hana eyecatch at the end was a nice touch as well.
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lol @10:40 Furinkazan

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All Hail Emperor Penguin!!

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Oh my goodness was this episode perfect or what? I don't usually literally laugh out loud when I'm watching a series by myself, but here I was, cackling away like an insane moron :)

And to contribute to the conversation above, I used to wonder about the characters a bit too. Especially Kafuka, who seemed so mysterious and almost like she had a hidden personality, that she was secretly a horrible person. But, after 2 1/2 seasons of this, it doesn't seem like any of the characters really have depth, they're used pretty exclusively as gags. Even when the hints of a darker personality were realized in Chiri, it just became part of the gag, and because of that Chiri's actually become *less* interesting in my opinion. I guess what I'm saying is that this doesn't seem like a show where you can really read into the characters very much.
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"SurpRice" lol
this episode was great :D
Oct 17, 2011 1:34 AM

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Kiri and Matoi in despair XD I want more both of them in later episodes, and more SURPRISE too~
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SurpRice Lol!

Chiri is always full of dark win!
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EMPEROR PENGUIN!


LOL
totally made my day xD
Nope.
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I also want a Zetsubou Sensai Life sized doll!
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The best episode so far for Zan!!! Everything was hilarious.

Saito Chiwa narration is funny as hell as usual when she speak English words...LOL.

LOL @ Oora.

Hell yeah, 2 more new students introduced >~<

Komori can be a good waifu for Sensei and Komori and Matoi rivalry was nice to see....
I always love this dialogue every episode:
Nozomu: "you're always here?"
Matoi:"Yeah, always"
Nozomu:"I see."
LOL!!!!

LOL....Chiri splitting Earth in half, is she at DBZ level???

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lol, emperor penguin... :D
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I still can't get over the fact that it's the last season... well I guess I'll have to read the manga then


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omfg Emperor Penguin trumps over all the "Generals", that's such a great punchline
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Chiri trying to split the world in two followed by Emperor Penguin's appearance was amazing.
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Damn I loved Matoi and Kiri's dual Zetsuboushita!

Majiru can be quite scary.
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Lol the Sensei's doll that turned to be the real sensei while thinking that he was an android.
Poor Shogun but Emperor Penguins are just better.
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as always,
let Chiri be Chiri
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The first part (about robo-sensei) is just genius.
The part with the shogun is really boring but the last part is good (Chiri cutie as always).

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