| wew cant believe there are people who watched the first one since you are the kind of guy who lets other make decisions for you then i say yes> keep watching |
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romagia said: since you are the kind of guy who lets other make decisions for you Not necessarily, he may be an askhole :P (Person who constantly asks advice but never takes it) |
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| It's not hard to watch 1 episode a week, even if it turns out to be shit. Might as well stick with it and see if it gets better. |
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Red_Tuesday said: lmaoromagia said: since you are the kind of guy who lets other make decisions for you Not necessarily, he may be an askhole :P (Person who constantly asks advice but never takes it) |
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| I'm enjoying it personally. There's no plot at all, and there's nothing happening, but I like it. It's pretty relaxing to watch. |
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| i found it better than first one. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Not as good as the first season, but far from drop-worthy. With all that action in the opening, I'm sure there will eventually be some kind of plot....I hope. |
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| I understand, I couldn't stand the bath house episode and im also considering dropping it, you could try watching the original it was a lot better. |
Kruszer said: well, VN player already spoiling many, and yes, there is many plot upcoming. avoid episode discussion if you dislike spoiler.Not as good as the first season, but far from drop-worthy. With all that action in the opening, I'm sure there will eventually be some kind of plot....I hope. |
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| Literally the only show that I look forward to watching every week this season |
Panzertreee said: becareful of VN purist.ZECHS96 said: I already have watched it, I thought it was great. Better than the current utawarerumono that is airing.I understand, I couldn't stand the bath house episode and im also considering dropping it, you could try watching the original it was a lot better. kaimax said: Nuage said: This have been said many times, but Both series starts on a different kind of situation for the country. Tuskuru (not even a country yet), was in a time of warring states, Feudal lords trying to gather more power and wealth while the "little people" suffer for this. While Yamato, has been enjoying peace for a very long time, till the point that the first Emperor is still alive for centuries.Well it's not like I want some "explosions" like you say, but in the first Utawarerumono, the characters were greats, and even with that, the plot was great itself and researched, here, it's feel like the only thing I'm watching is "bath bath bath bath- new girl appears- bath bath bath bath" Of course they will do a different approach to the plot and story. If Peace is well maintained, then the only other option left for the story to unfold is an uprising or an invasion. Also complaining about the SoF is pretty much moot if you claim to only watch the 1st anime, as the original VN has tons of those, then it was made into the Specials and OVA. In general, the 1st anime was a whole lot a mess when compared to the original VN. Omission of other female relationships (Eruru Bias), rushed short arcs in the middle of the season, and the botched ending, that actually caused MAL to tag Uta 2 as an "Alternative Setting" before being persuaded by users who actually played the game to change the tag to a "sequel" . If Uta 2 SoF parts was a problem, then it will reflect on the scores/reviews given on the game. But on the contrary the lowest score in VNDB now is just a 7, with 16 people giving it a 9 (out of 27 votes). Everything you feel now is because they are really controlling their pace with the anime, not rush it like the 1st one did. Uta 2 in MAL, is actually going on like Steins;Gate, most people panned the 1st half because "nothing happens" with Okabe playing around with the Microwave. Then the plot came, after that long build and it's now #2 in Mal. Both CookingPriest and I was there. Inb4, I'm not saying that Uta 2 Is better or equal to Steins;Gate, I'm just saying the major plot and story will happen in the 2nd half, while the first half is spent on introducing characters and their personalities, lore and planting the seed for the plot.. hack even VN purist saying this season actually pretty rushed compared to VN yet more better adaptation than first season. even like that, people that hate slow pace like OP always rant on every episode. this series originaly have many sol, the first season butchered it. this season fix it. |
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| Do you mean the ongoing Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen? I'll assume you do. Panzertreee said: Should I keep watching or drop? We don't know whether it'll be good, since it's not completed yet, but we can expect a large plot to start unfolding within a few episodes. After all, the game is a team-based tactics game, so it can't go on forever without some kind of fighting. If you find Utawarerumono:InK boring, you might want to marathon it when it's complete. It should help you go through boring parts. If you just don't appreciate cute girls with animal ears and tails, better drop it now. |
| As a fan of season 1, even I admit Itsuwari getting boring but I still watch it since I'm a fan of season 1 and I hope it will get better. I admit, if I'm not a fan of season 1, I might drop Itsuwari by now. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Ill just repost what I said in the Ep thread: THe first utawarerumono, while covering main plotpoints well enough, was also incredibly rushed and unevenly paced and biased towards Eruru(read: worst girl), which resulted in some weird pacing where the start is fast paced, then we suddenly have bunch of SOL and then suddenly we cover multiple story arcs in incredibly rushed manner of 1-2 episodes, as if they were sidestories. Then we cut out all the actual relationships. Then we cut out a big part of Hakuoro's backstory because who cares about all the lab stuff and worldbuilding about human extinction. Then we do half a decent job at the ending parts yet we outright alter one scene that involves Kuon and that leads into Itsuwari No Kamen so now people are confused. Don't get me wrong, UTA1 was a decent adaptation for its time but its pacing was horrible. The first utawarerumono also starts in the midst of war. That is not the case with the second, which starts in seemingly peaceful country. The only "fighting" possible in such a setting is usually behind the scenes(which is exactly what we are getting), so the show builds up the intrigue behind Yamato as well as showing what paths significant characters in Uta1 have taken and how it all connects together. Build Up > Turning Point > Pay Off is the basic rule of narrative. There's also the fact that while Utawarerumono 1 was a full story, Itsuwari no Kamen is only the "Part 1" of the said story and thus is shorter. |
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PolarKoala said: Must be hard to find people who've played the game though. Not really, you've got at least 3 people in this thread that actually knows how the plot will unfold. It's not hard to find people who actually play the game. It's actually harder to find people that will actually listen to those who plays the game. Most of the ones that said "the 1st anime was better" never played the original VN to begin with, hence they don't know how "badly" it was actually done. Hana_Kitsune said: there're some characters left who are not in the group yet. I'm still waiting for the... .............. Drop it or not, it's your choice. But If I ever see you (or anyone) again after saying you have dropped this in the discussions thread, I'll call you out. |
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| im guessing no one knows what pacing means drop it by all means it doesnt matter to me |
| I thought you meant season 1. If anything, season 1 was sh!t (except for the female characters). My enjoyment has been at least 10 folds in this season and it is one of the shows I eagerly wait for week-in week-out to come out (alongside Haikyuu, OPM and Iron-Blooded Orphans and Aragoto). Easily one of the best shows of this season. |
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| First episodes really dropped my expectations. If you have something better to do/watch drop it. |
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| Utawarerumono is all about the furries. This season has plenty. You guys must be watching it wrong. |
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QuattroVaginas said: Utawarerumono is all about the furries. This season has plenty. You guys must be watching it wrong. I wouldn't call them furries imo. They just got animal ears and tails. And they are cute. Furri would have to look more ehh furri-ish, animal like. I asume. Think of a bipedal animal kinda thing mabe? Im no expert so screw that. Anyway this anime is a nice slow relaxing experience with a very pleasant atmosphere up to this point. Those looking for action sadly, so far none to be had. Plot is there somewhere, I think. Mostly episodic, has a very SOL feel. |
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CookingPriest said: Ill just repost what I said in the Ep thread: THe first utawarerumono, while covering main plotpoints well enough, was also incredibly rushed and unevenly paced and biased towards Eruru(read: worst girl), which resulted in some weird pacing where the start is fast paced, then we suddenly have bunch of SOL and then suddenly we cover multiple story arcs in incredibly rushed manner of 1-2 episodes, as if they were sidestories. Then we cut out all the actual relationships. Then we cut out a big part of Hakuoro's backstory because who cares about all the lab stuff and worldbuilding about human extinction. Then we do half a decent job at the ending parts yet we outright alter one scene that involves Kuon and that leads into Itsuwari No Kamen so now people are confused. Don't get me wrong, UTA1 was a decent adaptation for its time but its pacing was horrible. The first utawarerumono also starts in the midst of war. That is not the case with the second, which starts in seemingly peaceful country. The only "fighting" possible in such a setting is usually behind the scenes(which is exactly what we are getting), so the show builds up the intrigue behind Yamato as well as showing what paths significant characters in Uta1 have taken and how it all connects together. Build Up > Turning Point > Pay Off is the basic rule of narrative. There's also the fact that while Utawarerumono 1 was a full story, Itsuwari no Kamen is only the "Part 1" of the said story and thus is shorter. |
| Back when first season aired mal wasn't filled wasn't filled with kids who can't maintain attention span for few minutes, until CR become official subber and more popular everyone had to wait for subs. Anime watchers were overall more patient. |
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bastek66 said: Back when first season aired mal wasn't filled wasn't filled with kids who can't maintain attention span for few minutes, until CR become official subber and more popular everyone had to wait for subs. Anime watchers were overall more patient. I agree but to get a gist of it I started to watch the first 2006 series and it has become quiet confusing |
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| I loved the first game but so far there is really not much worth in this anime. Heck, you can tell something is wrong with the script when the best episode was the one with returning characters. |
ibraheem234 said: The important stuff isn't revealed until the last few episodes of the first series. With the exception of character personalities and backstories, there's not much that will transfer over to this series before then. bastek66 said: Back when first season aired mal wasn't filled wasn't filled with kids who can't maintain attention span for few minutes, until CR become official subber and more popular everyone had to wait for subs. Anime watchers were overall more patient. I agree but to get a gist of it I started to watch the first 2006 series and it has become quiet confusing But it shouldn't be too confusing since, at this point in Itsuwari no Kamen, you've only met, and only barely, two characters from the first series. Unless you're having trouble with something like Touka being an enemy first. |
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Tom_Kosken said: Anyway this anime is a nice slow relaxing experience with a very pleasant atmosphere up to this point. Those looking for action sadly, so far none to be had. Plot is there somewhere, I think. Mostly episodic, has a very SOL feel. The first Utawararerumono also had a lot of SOL before going heavy into action towards the end. Personally I like it and watch it for the SOL elements and character building, so this season's been great for me so far. For those who don't like it, there's plenty of other shows this season with meaningless action that you will forget before the ending credits. |
| I'm still waiting for it to have some central plot beyond absolutely meaningless daily slice of life. There are a thousand anime with a protagonist who acts dumb but accomplishes everything with astounding luck and being clever where it counts. The only reason i'm still watching this one is because i loved the first one and i hope this does more than bait me with a few characters that seem taken from the previous one. Really, it seems like poor writing to have 8 episodes of just pure intro. You need to do something to hook the viewer fast or else they are gone. And yes, the previous one had slice of life episodes, but it also gave you a reason to give a damn about the characters. They had some depth and they were part of a central plot that extended beyond a single episode. |
Murbella said: Really, it seems like poor writing to have 8 episodes of just pure intro. You need to do something to hook the viewer fast or else they are gone.. Either endure it or leave it, because that's how the game went. All the ones who played the game endured it and gave it an above average/Decent score in VNDB. (29 votes total, average 8.66 (very good)) Also they know that a third game is coming, and Uta 2 is going to be the "prologue" to it, hence the slower pace and long building. ---------- Honestly, I can't take any of those who only watched the anime seriously, cause their love for it is biased. The Original VN has been translated since 2008 (7 Years) there's no reason not to play it by now. |
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| Whats with the kids nowadays wanting to get it all within the first episode of the show. Murbella said: Really, it seems like poor writing to have 8 episodes of just pure intro. You need to do something to hook the viewer fast or else they are gone. No? ITs actually the basis for GOOD narrative writing? First half of the work is always build up and second half of the work is always pay off. If viewer needs explosions and shit to "hook them or they are gone" then maybe such a "viewer" should stick to Michael Bay movies, one punch man and the rest of goldfish media instead. Your start of the post already proves you have not been paying attention: Murbella said: I'm still waiting for it to have some central plot beyond absolutely meaningless daily slice of life. There are a thousand anime with a protagonist who acts dumb but accomplishes everything with astounding luck and being clever where it counts. > Implying there has not been central plot building up > implying it was all meaningless slice of life > implying the protagonist acts dumb have you even been watching thi show? Oh wait I forgot - coherent lore and character buildup, character introduction, world building and foreshadowing equals "nothing happened" in goldfish society. GG |
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| The plot is in the second half. Personally, I prefer this over the original because the original had me irked at the quick transition to war. But yea, the second half is where most of the plot is at and the first half is to make you get to know the characters more so you'll be more affected when shit goes down. This is Utawarerumono, shit does go down. |
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Murbella said: I'm still waiting for it to have some central plot beyond absolutely meaningless daily slice of life. There are a thousand anime with a protagonist who acts dumb but accomplishes everything with astounding luck and being clever where it counts. The only reason i'm still watching this one is because i loved the first one and i hope this does more than bait me with a few characters that seem taken from the previous one. Really, it seems like poor writing to have 8 episodes of just pure intro. You need to do something to hook the viewer fast or else they are gone. And yes, the previous one had slice of life episodes, but it also gave you a reason to give a damn about the characters. They had some depth and they were part of a central plot that extended beyond a single episode. Although i personally think OPM is great for what it is, i agree. You can't look at this as a episode by episode basis. I can't remember very many anime series that are great episode by episode but instead as an entirety are great. I can't even describe the amount of people who would have dropped Steins;Gate if they watched it week by week considering it doesn't actually get somewhere by episode 8 and doesn't take off until episode 10-12. The reason why it's great is because people can crank out those 8 episodes at once and watch from there. But it wouldn't be nearly as great without those introductions and buildup. Now i didn't play the game basis, but the build up so far is by the book narrative and character build up. The entire show has been building up this new, established country, the protag doesn't act dumb at all he just acts nonchalent and relaxed. Without spoiling anything, he acts exactly how i imagined he would act. I honestly don't know what to say if you expect a good 26~ episode series to have exciting things happen this early and expect it to stay good. |
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| its been so long since ive seen the first one i don't remember the story or the characters. i might have to watch it again to get all the references. |
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