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Sep 8, 2014 10:29 AM
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Some parts of this episode reminded me of ZnT somewhat because of the game and threat of a bomb. Hell, there's even a little chess reference.

Better episode than last week with some minimum action. Nice just never has it easy...same for Hajime.
Sep 8, 2014 12:10 PM
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Hajime's proving her worth as a soulless plot device, isn't she? Playing the role of a damsel in distress just for the sake of it. I can't believe where this is heading now...

So many things remain unanswered, the ending is probably going to be rushed as hell with tons of revelations.

We're back on track with one-sided villains again, but this time they managed to surpass Moral. What an achievement.

Art's character managed to progress from the plot device he was in S1, to one of the main villains. I hope they don't plan on doing so with Hajime, seeing as how confused she is. Caring more for burgers than Nice, that means something alright.

I really hope they wrap this up (anime-wise) with this season, though I don't see how they could.
Sep 8, 2014 1:09 PM
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Good thing, Nice and Murasaki able to save the their important friends in time.

Good fight between Nice and Ratio.

I'm glad to hear that Hajime and Suruga are alive.

Too bad, Suruga's Healing Minimum is stolen.
Sep 8, 2014 1:17 PM
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Hajime going to Freemum :(
Saikyou playing bomb games with Nice. Putting a bomb on an important person and giving them ten minutes to get to the bomb!

That duel between Ratio and Nice. Fighting for the healing minimum or saving Hajime.
Glad that Art intervened and saved both of them. Suruga losing the healing minimum!
Sep 8, 2014 1:17 PM
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Saikyou played around with Nice and Murasaki for a good while, to fulfill her selfish entertainment desire.

Nice vs. Ratio was pretty good. But did they seriously think even if Ratio won, she'd just let them use Suruga's minimum?
Now, that ability is as good as gone anyways, thanks to Hajime's Nihilist Minimum. I feel bad for Birthday. Really hope he doesn't die..

Art definitely has a personal goal, as Freemum's leader suspecting. What it could be? O.o

Decent episode. So, I'm guessing Moral won't appear after all? It won't be surprising though.

Sep 8, 2014 1:29 PM
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Wtf was Hajime thinking for joining with the 'Freemums?"

Looks like the head of the freemum is having 2nd thoughts about Art and Saikyou. so does Saikyou have any minimum powers?
Sep 8, 2014 1:44 PM
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No, because she stated that she was interested in Minimum Holders and she had two police officers pointing their guns on Hajime and Suruga.
Sep 8, 2014 2:26 PM
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Curing mimimum with freemum?

Bombing...

Main guy vs. doctor for Hajime-chan or his childhood friends.... Fortunately with time up and ex-police guy stopping her, Hajime-chan is not killed.
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Sep 8, 2014 2:41 PM
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Dying on the inside NOOOOOOOOO
Sep 8, 2014 2:47 PM

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Hajime...why did you go to the dark side? :(
I don't know why she randomly decided to join Freemun, but that decision is kind of selfish in my opinion.

That fight between Ratio and Nice is kind of sad. I guess they're friendship isn't strong enough if they go all out like that.

I hope Birthday will be alright next episode.
Sep 8, 2014 2:53 PM

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Good episode.

I'm just confused because the hatred for this show seems to be abnormally strong.
I get people always hate or love an anime, no matter what. It depends on the person. But why does it seem like the hatred for this show is bigger than usual?
I mean, a 1/10? Really?
I won't ever understand that sort of thing.

Either way, I enjoy the show. 9/10 overall for me so far. Much better than season one.
Sep 8, 2014 2:54 PM

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Wait what? why did Hajime even go to Freemum? just to be a hostage? lol...
Oh great! healing minimum!...oh wait it's gone -facedesk- i actually want Birthday to stay alive.He is one of few characters in this show i actually like to some degree.
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Sep 8, 2014 3:07 PM

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Now I am wondering what is the point of Hajime going to the Freemum? Haha. She just ended up as an hostage and because of that Nice and Ratio got into a fight..
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Wait what? why did Hajime even go to Freemum? just to be a hostage? lol...

Yeah like what the hell...I like Hajime and all, but she's been pretty useless as a character all this time and now just making everything worse. Poor Nice and Ratio having to fight each other :/
Sep 8, 2014 3:41 PM

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Hajime why are you joining the very group Hamatora is fighting against? Makes no sense get it together girl!

I'm hoping she's just trying to destroy it from the inside or something.
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I keep thinking that Art isn't in fact evil. He hasn't killed anyone yet, so he's not yet a true villain!

My thoughts after that last comment is that he actually do feel sorry for people with minimum and is more of an anti hero. He wants Nice and company to loose their minimum so that they won't get in his way and get hurt.

Those are just my thoughts! I really like Art as an character, I really want him to be noble in the end!
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Sep 8, 2014 4:53 PM

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Hey ... Chiyo has Minimum healer was not it ?? Why she can not use it ??
Sep 8, 2014 4:54 PM

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Yeah I'm sure Art had some amazing goal in mind and is using deceit to fulfill it. He also saved Hajime this episode and he had the chance to kill others like Murasaki, but he didn't.
Sep 8, 2014 4:55 PM

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Ahahah Birthday and his trolling = awesome! xD wut?! He's really sick... dat idiot!
Those transitions are not good anymore, they're overused already.
Hajime-chan only thinks about hamburgers even when she's a hostege *facepalm*
Those minimum risks are bullshit -.-
Definitely worse than the first season.

btw, why isn't there a episode limit yet? Please don't tell me this is going to be 2 cour... it's not that it's that bad but I don't think it is good enough to be 2 cour long :/

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Hey ... Chiyo has Minimum healer was not it ?? Why she can not use it ??

Probably because of those shitty "minimum risks"
Sep 8, 2014 5:19 PM

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Bomb hostages, making the characters choose who to save, and having to kill each other. So cliche.
Anyways, Birthday is the only character I care about in this show now. Goddammit, don't die please.

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iLostReason said:
Wait what? why did Hajime even go to Freemum? just to be a hostage? lol...

Yeah like what the hell...I like Hajime and all, but she's been pretty useless as a character all this time and now just making everything worse. Poor Nice and Ratio having to fight each other :/

Hear, hear.
I was expecting to find a bunch of posts defending Hajime.

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Yeah I'm sure Art had some amazing goal in mind and is using deceit to fulfill it. He also saved Hajime this episode and he had the chance to kill others like Murasaki, but he didn't.

Idk, maybe to steal everyone's minimums.
Sep 8, 2014 5:36 PM

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Whats' the point of Hajime going to Freemum O__o
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Sep 8, 2014 6:34 PM
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I will not express my opinion of disappointment...Whoops o-o

Anyways, what was in Hajime-chan's hat?
Sep 8, 2014 7:28 PM

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ZnT even in Hamatora? right up the charades rsr.
Ratio pen when he gets to know you have the minumum healing is taken from him, hopefully the Birthday improve. This Art is a MF! (although, if it was not him, maybe Hajime would be dead by Momoka), finally, now that most Hamatora are not able to fight with it appears to play another trump card. Anxious for the next episode ^^
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Anyways, what was in Hajime-chan's hat?

Probably a tracker? That's how Saikyou/Freemum knew where she was. I think.
Sep 8, 2014 9:02 PM

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It was a pretty interesting episode, I'm really curious about how things are going to be from now on. 4/5

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This Art is a FDP (although, if it was not him, maybe Hajime would be dead by Momoka), finally, now that most Hamatora are not able to fight with it appears to play another trump card. Anxious for the next episode ^^



Not everybody will understand the FDP thing there xD
Only those who actually studied portuguese or have friends who speak the language lol
Sep 8, 2014 11:51 PM
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I think Hajime wanted to expose the Freemums to her Nihilist minimum.
That's why she joined them.

She left because she wanted to spare Nice and the rest from the side effects caused by having her around.

So by going to the villain's side she can weaken their powers & give Nice and Hamatora a chance to win the fight.

Not saying that that's the best idea, but I can somewhat get what she's trying to achieve.
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People who think Chiyuu has the Healing Minimum, you've got it ALL wrong. Chiyuu has the Color Minimum (as seen in the first season) and this episode even outright SAYS (can't get more obvious than that) that she was looking for the Healing Minimum Holder, so it CAN'T be her! You might have been confused by last episode's final scene where we see her feeling sick while Ratio talks about the Healing Minimum, but that was just because Freemum did something to her and the results were shown in this week's episode where Ratio brought her to the hospital.
Also, what I just said isn't even necessary because in the Murasaki hospital episode it was hinted that Suruga (sock puppet and ball-gag guy from Freemum) had the Healing Minimum, which was actually shown to be true in this episode!! So NO, Chiyuu can't heal anyone and neither can Suruga because Art stole his Minimum like he did with a ton of people: Suruga has the same symptoms as them, something else that was outright said in the episode! It wasn't Hajime who nullified his Minimum, but it was Art who extracted it like we've seen him do many times before!

Another thing: Momoka does indeed have a Minimum because we saw it in the first season: the Hacking Minimum. It's probably thanks to that ability that she got so rich. Her remark in this episode about getting interested in Minimum Holders is kind of confusing since she's one too, but it probably means that she used to be alone and didn't care about other Minimum Holders apart from herself.

As for the episode, I REALLY hope Hajime has a plan for joining Freemum; someone in this same thread theorized that she could be doing it to slowly weaken them with her Minimum like she inadvertently did to her Hamatora friends who would regain their Minimums at full strength because they aren't close to her anymore. That would be a really smart plan, so I hope it's actually true.
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Sigh... bad episode... everything hinged on Hajime going to Freemum, and she did that because...?
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Sep 9, 2014 4:28 AM

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Ratio and Nice also fought against each other in the manga (a much better fight by the way), but it was kind of a draw
Sep 9, 2014 5:32 AM

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Confirmed for 12 episodes. Thank goodness.
Sep 9, 2014 7:34 AM
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I dare to say that its got a lot better than the last episodes, even tho it didn't surprised me...
This game was Neat, actually a good scene there! I don't see how they can end this in two more episodes without rushing everything, Don't tell me.. a third Season? Damn you!
Sep 9, 2014 8:53 AM

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Confirmed for 12 episodes. Thank goodness.


I'm hoping for a 3rd season
Sep 9, 2014 9:11 AM

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this episode was pretty good. I liked the fight between Nice and Ratio, both fighting for the persons who are very dear to them. can't wait to see what Art is really up to.
I don't think I'm ready for next episode;_; and I saw it's going to have 12 episodes, meh I kinda thought it would be longer because they were waiting to give the official number of episodes, but oh well I hope the last two eps will be good:)
Sep 9, 2014 5:19 PM

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I think the author ran out of ideas hence the previous filler episode(s) and the cliche save your friend decision
Sep 9, 2014 5:33 PM
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I vaguely remember a big explosion, and that makes it 5/5 in my eyes.

I think I'll take a break from this anime, and finish it when I can look at it with fresh eyes and greater appreciation.
Sep 9, 2014 5:38 PM

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How this show got so bad?! Really, the 1st season was kinda cool...
Sep 9, 2014 10:26 PM

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omg anyone here hating that saikyou??? she's acting like a hot shot ugh I just fucking hate her.... if I have a lot money like her I don't even bother to mess it with people's life, just get a dick or something to fill her so called "void".

im sorry and yes my only purpose here is for expressing my hate for her.

and I really hope there is actually some logical "reason" behind her "entertainment as the alternative to have some fun with her monayyyyy"

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Sep 10, 2014 2:40 AM

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In case Hajme hasn't noticed, Nice isn't dead...
Sep 13, 2014 6:34 AM

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I'm glad that Hajime's character potential came to deliver eventually, it's really rare that shows take such kind of moves.

Speaking about delivering, this season has really picked up lately, too bad it had a rather horrible beginning that made most of the watchers give up to this point.


Nice's duel with Ratio was better than I could've hoped, another proof that this franchise can deliver if it actually tries to.
Sep 14, 2014 5:41 PM

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Another shitty episode for a shitty anime. o u o Everyone has there opinions, so please refrain from posting on my profile about how I should stop watching it. If I don't wanna drop anymore anime that's my choice. I'll sit through this bullshit, since there are only two episodes left. I wish everyone died in this episode, than I could be happy.

0/10 would never watch again.
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Another shitty episode for a shitty anime. o u o Everyone has there opinions, so please refrain from posting on my profile about how I should stop watching it. If I don't wanna drop anymore anime that's my choice. I'll sit through this bullshit, since there are only two episodes left. I wish everyone died in this episode, than I could be happy.

0/10 would never watch again.
I don't know which one is sadder, the fact you sit through 2 cours of trash anime, or the fact you would find joy in these characters death / death = anime redeemed slightly.

A few things I didn't like,
- Saikyou asked them not to contact the police, but I thought she has control over the police forces, and it's not like Nice would contact the cops anyway, they simply don't have enough time.
- Hajime just sit through the whole fight between her friends, yeah we get that you don't wanna harm them, but now they are forced to kill each other, what the.. I wonder if she secretly volunteered to be a spy.
- They tried to make us sympathize with Chiyuu, pulling out the "she's trying to search for the guy with Healing Minimum to help Birthday".
- Saikyou turns out to be very underwhelming, "sorry 2 rich haz 2 kill some1 4 entertainment". She also seems to have an inferiority complex about her face, especially the birthmark, she always show it to another during her introduction.
- The others got kidnapped so freakin' easily.. -.-

However, I am liking how they handle Art so far, tho to be honest was there a point making him hop around stealing minimum abilities? Well we'll see. I like the picture with Art and the old detective dude after they skip into the ED, ahh, season 1 Art was a good guy..
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..This is all kinds of stupid.
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I guess there's no point in ranting about Saikyou's voice every episode... but.. *sigh* I'll at least commend her for being a great villain.. now I'll just wait to see Nice bring retribution to her.

What a dick move there Hajime.. you idiotic bitch. I take back what I said in the previous episode. This loli slut doesn't make any sense. Why did she go to the freemums? hell, how did she even know where their hideout is located? If she thinks her presence bring harm to people, then she should've just jumped off the nearest bridge or at least go to a very secluded place where there's no one around... that would've made more sense.

Hey guys, remember the last time we've seen a decent fight scene in this supposed to be action show? No? Well no shit! because there hasn't been a decent fight in this show since season 1. I'm itching to see some ass-kicking fight scenes and we see this sloppy shit that's hardly worth mentioning. What a load of bullcrap. I'd rather see season 1's action scenes even though they altered the colors like rainbows and shit, than this show with 90% dialogue. Fuck you, producers! this ain't part of the monogatari series!
Oct 8, 2014 8:18 AM

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Lol, Hajime-chan suddenly asks "how many burgers can I eat with that?"
Damn you Saikyou, Stop playing with them.
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Oct 17, 2014 6:25 AM
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My my, this episode is stupid. WTF.
Started pretty good, but now, I don't know *sigh*
Oct 19, 2014 5:56 PM

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First why the heck did Hajime-chan go to them anyway ?!
In season 1 just the power awakening was epic like shit.. now I don't even know if it's called a fight.
Maybe the prequel just made my expectation too high.. but it's still alright for me.
I wonder how this will all end.
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Interesting development, let's see what the last two episodes will offer us!
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I keep thinking that Art isn't in fact evil. He hasn't killed anyone yet, so he's not yet a true villain!

My thoughts after that last comment is that he actually do feel sorry for people with minimum and is more of an anti hero. He wants Nice and company to loose their minimum so that they won't get in his way and get hurt.

Those are just my thoughts! I really like Art as an character, I really want him to be noble in the end!


i don't agree with everything, but i do want art to be saved. he was just so lovely and justice-y in S1! doesn't look that way, though.

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Hey guys, remember the last time we've seen a decent fight scene in this supposed to be action show? No? Well no shit! because there hasn't been a decent fight in this show since season 1. I'm itching to see some ass-kicking fight scenes and we see this sloppy shit that's hardly worth mentioning. What a load of bullcrap. I'd rather see season 1's action scenes even though they altered the colors like rainbows and shit, than this show with 90% dialogue. Fuck you, producers! this ain't part of the monogatari series!


was thinking the same thing. WHERE ARE THE FIGHTS. do you think the audience would automatically forget? if so i take back my "monkey-quality story" note. this is BOOTY quality.

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Another shitty episode for a shitty anime. o u o Everyone has there opinions, so please refrain from posting on my profile about how I should stop watching it. If I don't wanna drop anymore anime that's my choice. I'll sit through this bullshit, since there are only two episodes left. I wish everyone died in this episode, than I could be happy.

0/10 would never watch again.
I don't know which one is sadder, the fact you sit through 2 cours of trash anime, or the fact you would find joy in these characters death / death = anime redeemed slightly.

A few things I didn't like,
- Saikyou asked them not to contact the police, but I thought she has control over the police forces, and it's not like Nice would contact the cops anyway, they simply don't have enough time.
- Hajime just sit through the whole fight between her friends, yeah we get that you don't wanna harm them, but now they are forced to kill each other, what the.. I wonder if she secretly volunteered to be a spy.
- They tried to make us sympathize with Chiyuu, pulling out the "she's trying to search for the guy with Healing Minimum to help Birthday".
- Saikyou turns out to be very underwhelming, "sorry 2 rich haz 2 kill some1 4 entertainment". She also seems to have an inferiority complex about her face, especially the birthmark, she always show it to another during her introduction.
- The others got kidnapped so freakin' easily.. -.-

However, I am liking how they handle Art so far, tho to be honest was there a point making him hop around stealing minimum abilities? Well we'll see. I like the picture with Art and the old detective dude after they skip into the ED, ahh, season 1 Art was a good guy..


all good points, but the first is the best. um kinda went up your own butt there, lady. lol
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ok this woman is freaking terrible. she's done everything bad on earth and brought hell up to make it even worse. she's crazy! i like her. >:D

i mean come on at least there's FINALLY an explanation on how SOMEONE is acting.

i was expecting an epic battle (like saikyou >:P) and instead the writing threw dirty underwear in my face. thanks. MAKE UP FOR THAT PEOPLE.

literally, the only 100% promise i get and look forward to is the character changes that happen every ep in the intro of the OP. i'm not even kidding either. i really like that. the art in the ED isn't bad but not as good as the OP imo.

i have to say i like this one though, mainly because of the genuine evil saikyou promises. good villain (well, good DECLARED villain, since art and freemum are still up to suspicious work).

decent ep but let's go look at 'tora mess that up in the next one! yayz.
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Okay, so guessing here that the reason why Art wants more people to join Freemum is that he can easily remove all their Minimums in one go or something?

Ratio vs Nice was hurting too look at. You just can't easily cheer for Nice... I feel so sad for Ratio.. ;_;

Hajime entering Freemum of her own free will was ultimately stupid. You go, girl.

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Forgodsake. This episode pissed me off especially Hajime. Why would you bring yourself to the enemy's territory? Jesus. I feel like this episode was ruined by Hajime herself.

And it seems like a long time ago when I wanted a character to die so bad. I'm pertaining to that bitch who has a birthmark. She can choke and die anytime. Please kill her off.

Fuck. That moment when we though we can save everyone with Suruga's Healing Minimum. I wish Art "stole" it and not Hajime "annihilating" it. Haha.

Liked this episode not loved because fuck that birthmarked bitch.

P.S. Alright, I forgive Hajime, but I think she's planning to "erase" all the Minimum of all those Minimum Holders in Freemum. Idk. That's just my theory.

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