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Jun 3, 2013 5:40 AM

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I ended up watching the exchanges between Komachi (Hikki's sister) and Yuigahama at the beginning of the episode a dozen times. I find the reaction of Yuigahama when she noticed Komachi tricked her into saying yes about meeting their parents and then the all-knowing "got you" look with a smile by Komachi extremely funny.

In fact the part right afterwards when Komachi whispered "Gomi-chan" and then incessantly nudge Hikki to go with Yuigahama to the firework show is just as funny, so I usually end up watching that as well X-D
symbvJun 3, 2013 5:47 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jun 3, 2013 6:13 AM

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Based on how the light novel's direction is going I can see its all Yui route, its a real shame though... I was rooting for Yukino.

I love myself
I've never once in my life hated myself.
-Hikigaya Hachiman
~Seriously LOL(≥∇≤)


Realy? From how I read novels, I can't see Yui having greater chance than snowflake in the hell...
Jun 3, 2013 6:18 AM
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I don't understand. What did Yukinon lie about?


She kept silent about the fact that it was 'her' car that hit Hachiman when he saved Yui's dog.
She lied when she met Hachiman face to face about not knowing him.


Yukinoshita family is very strange. They knew their car hit him when the accident happened. Nonetheless they didn't call an ambulance nor take him to a hospital, and later their family member Haruno talked about the car accident as if nothing bad had happened. She didn't even say sorry. Instead, she said no damage was left to the car: she cared about the car but she didn't care about his physical damage at all. Hachiman is unlikely to end up with Yukino that belongs to the family.
Jun 3, 2013 6:42 AM
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StopDropAndBowl said:
I just don't see how it can be called "dishonest" to not openly say right off the bat: "Oh, you're the guy my driver ran over."

I guess if she said "I don't know his name." than she technically lied, but I highly doubt that is the "lie" he is talking about.
Point is that he is disappointed because Yukino was 'WEAK', unlike a figure he thought of her, whether it can be said dishonest or not.
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Yukinoshita family is very strange. They knew their car hit him when the accident happened. Nonetheless they didn't call an ambulance nor take him to a hospital, and later their family member Haruno talked about the car accident as if nothing bad had happened. She didn't even say sorry. Instead, she said no damage was left to the car: she cared about the car but she didn't care about his physical damage at all. Hachiman is unlikely to end up with Yukino that belongs to the family.


Has it been stated in the LN that they definitely did NOT call an ambulance for him or is that merely an assumption of yours? Maybe they did call an ambulance but they didn't identify themselves (it may have been bad for their reputation)?

However, they did do some research and track down the dude they hit. Haruno assumed that Yukinoshita would have approached Hachiman and apologized for everything (unlike the driver, because that's the proper thing to do even if she's not directly responsible). However, Yukino wasn't as strong as her sister assumed her to be.
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It weren't stated in novels. Also if it were that case Haruno would hardly be so nonchalant about that.
Jun 3, 2013 10:48 AM
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eminagnam said:


Yukinoshita family is very strange. They knew their car hit him when the accident happened. Nonetheless they didn't call an ambulance nor take him to a hospital, and later their family member Haruno talked about the car accident as if nothing bad had happened. She didn't even say sorry. Instead, she said no damage was left to the car: she cared about the car but she didn't care about his physical damage at all. Hachiman is unlikely to end up with Yukino that belongs to the family.


This is from volume 3 summary that the anime didn't not mention.

Hikki says to Yui after he gave her the present "In the first place, you didn't need to show an interest in me. The hospital fees were covered by the insurance company, the driver and a lawyer also dropped by to apologize.
Jun 3, 2013 10:58 AM

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eminagnam said:
Yukinoshita family is very strange. They knew their car hit him when the accident happened. Nonetheless they didn't call an ambulance nor take him to a hospital, and later their family member Haruno talked about the car accident as if nothing bad had happened. She didn't even say sorry. Instead, she said no damage was left to the car: she cared about the car but she didn't care about his physical damage at all. Hachiman is unlikely to end up with Yukino that belongs to the family.
Besides what XLR and Naoki-Saten said, I would also add that what Haruno said does not reflect that she cares more about the car. What she meant is that they should not stare at the car as if they still want to confirm if the car is the one that was involved in the incident. She is saying that if they still tried to look for evidence for confirmation, it would be futile as any damage has already been fixed. She then proceeds to ask them not to mind the whole thing too much, in particular not to link this to Yukino her sister.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jun 3, 2013 11:59 AM

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I find it interesting to go back and rewatch all the episodes every time there is some sort of reveal. This being no exception, I went back and a particular exchange stood out:

Yukino: "Hikigaya doesn't think he ever helped you out, and you don't think you acted out of pity towards him. Things have been messed up from the start. So Hikigaya's choice to "end things right here" is the right one."

Yui: "But I don't want things to end here."

Yukino: "You're such a fool. If it ends you can just start all over again. Neither of you are at fault, after all. One of you saved the other, but in reality you are both victims, right? Then you should put all of the blame on the instigator."

I think this exchange is more pertinent to the issue of honesty than whether or not she technically knew or met Hachiman due to the accident and thus whether or not she was lying about it afterwards. Here we have Yukino saying "blame me/my family," only failing to acknowledge that it is in fact her family that is the instigator she is referring to. She lacked the courage to admit her/her family's own role in the drama, even as she told Hachiman and Yui to blame them. In not doing so, she also declines her own advice: end this screwed up situation now so you can start over.
Jun 3, 2013 1:14 PM

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is'nt he a legend? but i think he's starting to lose his cool and Yui was lying from the beginning, you sshouldn't admire people you know nothing about!
Jun 3, 2013 2:38 PM

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Episode 08 was good but I thoroughly enjoyed episode 09. I really like how Hikki is handling things by ignoring the problem and making the girls hurt. He knows he's hurting them and that's why he currently "despises" of what he has done and become. I like this sort of thing because first you don't see this kind of thing happen often in anime. However, I sort of understand why Hikki is doing such a thing.

I reckon Hikki has some disturbing scars from the accident and is probably one of the reasons he didn't bring or take a swimsuit to the training camp.

Ah, I really like this series, and I just don't know what's going to happen next but I doubt much will happen to mend the problems/relationships in the next episode though.
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I really like how Hikki is handling things by ignoring the problem and making the girls hurt. He knows he's hurting them and that's why he currently "despises" of what he has done and become.

He does not despise himself for hurting the girls but he hates himself because he idolized Yukino and expected too much from her. It has nothing to do with hurting anyone.
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It doesn't metter even if that lie is only technical. It isn't like Hikki blame her in first place. Point is that "his" Yukino NEVER lies and that Yukino is gone now.

There is nothing to not understand about that.

But that's stupid...

Look, I get that Hachiman, being a weirdsmobile teenager, thinks she was being dishonest. My point is that he's got no real basis for that. I can't recall her ever saying: "I don't know your name" or "I don't know his name." If she did, than she did TECHNICALLY lie... I guess. Did she really know his name? Like, do we KNOW that she went out and found out his name after her driver hit him? Even if she did, that's still not the lie Hachiman is talking about.

That's my point: she did nothing wrong. She didn't even necessarily break Hachiman's stupid standards or whatever.
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StopDropAndBowl said:
Tenzen12 said:
It doesn't metter even if that lie is only technical. It isn't like Hikki blame her in first place. Point is that "his" Yukino NEVER lies and that Yukino is gone now.

There is nothing to not understand about that.

But that's stupid...

Look, I get that Hachiman, being a weirdsmobile teenager, thinks she was being dishonest. My point is that he's got no real basis for that. I can't recall her ever saying: "I don't know your name" or "I don't know his name." If she did, than she did TECHNICALLY lie... I guess. Did she really know his name? Like, do we KNOW that she went out and found out his name after her driver hit him? Even if she did, that's still not the lie Hachiman is talking about.

That's my point: she did nothing wrong. She didn't even necessarily break Hachiman's stupid standards or whatever.


A simple proof of her TECHNICALLY lying:

Oregairu episode 1, 14:15 (FFF subs)
Yukino: You're Yuigahama Yui-san from class 2-F, aren't you? Have a seat.
Yui: You know who I am?
Hachiman: I bet you know everyone in this school
Yukino: No, I didn't know who you were.

Hachiman: I see
Yukino: No need to take it badly. It's my own weakness for wanting to avert my eyes from the fact that you even exist.
Hachiman: Is that supposed to be consolation for me?
Yukino: No, sarcasm
Yui: Like... This club looks like a lot of fun!

And a screenshot, as a bonus:


quod erat demonstrandum

So Yukino was technically lying. Now for the rest:
Yes, Yukino did know that her car hit Hachiman. Read the hints, man.
- episode 6: Yukino has never heard the full story from Hachiman or Yui. All she should know is that "Hachiman saved Yui's dog", "Hachiman assumed Yui approached him out of pity". Yet she said that the one to blame for the problem between Hachiman and Yui is "the malefactor". Notice Hachiman's sudden "Huh?" after Yukino says "You're not the ones at fault, after all". Sharp guy. He might have realized right back then and there: How did Yukino know anything about a "malefactor" (FFF) or "instigator" (Commie)? That would explain why Hachiman behaved strangely at the end of the episode, walked up to Yukino's desk and looked at her notebook. I admit this hint needs some interpretation and therefore isn't very solid.
- episode 9: Yukino's sister knew full well that Hachiman was hit by the car while Yukino was sitting inside and she assumed that Yukino had already told him that. Therefore, Yukino must have known of the fact as well.

If you put it all together, this is what comes out:
Yukino knew that Hachiman was hit by her car way before he entered the club room for the first time. And she decided to never admit it because she simply didn't have the courage to tell him that. But when her sister came to pick her up, she realized that Hachiman would recognize the car and that her secret is busted. Thus, she had no choice but to admit it all after the summer holidays. Well, she tried, but Hachiman, fully aware of the situation, cut her off.

I doubt Hachiman would blame Yukino for the accident. I doubt he would demand an a personal apology for her car hitting him (Of course she's not to blame, but despite that, most people, her sister included, would find an apology appropriate. Not so for Hachiman). What bothers him is the fact that Yukino lied because she was too weak.
He probably expected her to admit her involvement into the accident, yet deny any direct guilt, thus not apologizing. He probably expected her not to make a great deal out of it.
Yet she acted like she knew nothing of the accident because she lacked the courage to tell him that. She said nothing because the accident DID bother her a lot. Despite knowing him, she lied when said she didn't. That kind of weakness is a contradiction to his ideal of Yukinoshita Yukino.
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This is getting very interesting, my expectations are still rising.
I'm quite hyped at this point, hopefully it won't disappoint me.
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Jun 4, 2013 1:31 PM

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Hikigaya is disappointed in Yukino, but is more upset about himself. He realizes that he set her up in a image that she can't really keep. Like the masses, he pours all these expectations onto Yukino and forces her to live up to them. Her isolation is due to people thinking like he did, because really, how is a goddess supposed to blend in?


Yep, pretty much this.
Jun 4, 2013 2:37 PM

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This anime was brought to my attention just today, and I marathoner right through it up until the latest ep. All the eps were great, and this is no exception. I really like Hachiman’s way of thinking. It’s pessimistic,, harsh, and in quite some cases easily relatable. What a refreshing character, I don’t think I’ve ever watched a romcom because of the protagonist, rather than the heroine before.

I’m really curious how this will continue, can’t wait for more!
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I just love how everything is connected with each other in this anime and this makes it so interesting to go through some of the eps again to see all the hints that were laid out. And it is also great to have a mc like Hikki who generally always has an idea of what's going on. I liked his decisions to cut both Yui and Yukino off in this episode tbh and it just makes get me more interested in seeing what'll happen later.

Yui was so cute in this episode going on a date with Hikki. And lol some of his replies to the girls were as hilarious as always. Hahaha he actually suggested just going back home instead of waiting.
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Peculiarly to this kind of series that is like Toradora, I am going to be legitimately disappointed if he doesn't end up with the supporting lead Yugiahama mainly because Yukinon hasn't really been trying as hard as Yui has and I just love her character so much more. It's not like Toradora where I liked both Taiga and Minori equally and was happy with Ryuuji ending up with either of them, Yui is just on a whole another level of cuteness in comparison. I hope to god Yui doesn't put away her feelings because she cares too much for Yukinon, I cringed the whole time Yukinon's sister was there and then even more when she tried to end their evening by taking them home in the car.

COME ON YUI you deserve it

Highlights of this episode:

-"We have a lot of time to kill before the fireworks, what should we do... go home?"
-The setting up of the date by his sister
-How hesitant Yui was to do it and in relation to him despite being leagues above him
-Yui
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Naoki-Saten said:


A simple proof of her TECHNICALLY lying:

Oregairu episode 1, 14:15 (FFF subs)
Yukino: You're Yuigahama Yui-san from class 2-F, aren't you? Have a seat.
Yui: You know who I am?
Hachiman: I bet you know everyone in this school
Yukino: No, I didn't know who you were.

Hachiman: I see
Yukino: No need to take it badly. It's my own weakness for wanting to avert my eyes from the fact that you even exist.
Hachiman: Is that supposed to be consolation for me?
Yukino: No, sarcasm
Yui: Like... This club looks like a lot of fun!

And a screenshot, as a bonus:

I'm still not sold. Did she know who he was when they first met? It's possible that she only figured that out later.

Yes, Yukino did know that her car hit Hachiman. Read the hints, man.
- episode 6: Yukino has never heard the full story from Hachiman or Yui. All she should know is that "Hachiman saved Yui's dog", "Hachiman assumed Yui approached him out of pity". Yet she said that the one to blame for the problem between Hachiman and Yui is "the malefactor". Notice Hachiman's sudden "Huh?" after Yukino says "You're not the ones at fault, after all". Sharp guy. He might have realized right back then and there: How did Yukino know anything about a "malefactor" (FFF) or "instigator" (Commie)? That would explain why Hachiman behaved strangely at the end of the episode, walked up to Yukino's desk and looked at her notebook. I admit this hint needs some interpretation and therefore isn't very solid.
At this point, she isn't saying anything incorrect. And omitting that it was her car is not being dishonest.


- episode 9: Yukino's sister knew full well that Hachiman was hit by the car while Yukino was sitting inside and she assumed that Yukino had already told him that. Therefore, Yukino must have known of the fact as well.

I agree that at some point she figured it out. I don't necessarily agree that she knew from day 1.

Yukino knew that Hachiman was hit by her car way before he entered the club room for the first time.
This has yet to be established. There was plenty of time for her to figure it all out since that point.

She said nothing because the accident DID bother her a lot. Despite knowing him, she lied when said she didn't. That kind of weakness is a contradiction to his ideal of Yukinoshita Yukino.
That's how Hachiman sees it, yes. I don't necessarily agree that she lied, or that she was being dishonest. I don't see not telling him that it was her car as either a weakness or dishonesty. Even with his stupid "standards" I don't see how she broke them. I see him as being upset because she was involved and didn't tell him, but I don't see that as a fault of hers, rather a fault of his. His standards were that she would always tell the truth. I don't see a direct lie, or at least, I don't see one with the information we've been given. There could have been one, hell there probably was one (the way the show is going it seems to go out of it's way to justify Hachiman's weirdness), but as of yet, I'm not sold on the idea.

My main point is actually that calling her dishonest is such a stretch that I think Hachiman is doing it because he doesn't want friends, rather than her actually being untruthful.
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I'm still not sold. Did she know who he was when they first met? It's possible that she only figured that out later.
I can tell you since I know the novel. That's the part that Yukinoshita lied and exactly what Hachiman is mentioning. She did know he was involved in the accident since the first meeting, it's way too obvious. Even in novel, we don't know why she lied about knowing him.

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Peculiarly to this kind of series that is like Toradora, I am going to be legitimately disappointed if he doesn't end up with the supporting lead Yugiahama mainly because Yukinon hasn't really been trying as hard as Yui has and I just love her character so much more. It's not like Toradora where I liked both Taiga and Minori equally and was happy with Ryuuji ending up with either of them, Yui is just on a whole another level of cuteness in comparison. I hope to god Yui doesn't put away her feelings because she cares too much for Yukinon, I cringed the whole time Yukinon's sister was there and then even more when she tried to end their evening by taking them home in the car.
Read the title. No love comedy for Hachiman lol.
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That's how Hachiman sees it, yes. I don't necessarily agree that she lied, or that she was being dishonest. I don't see not telling him that it was her car as either a weakness or dishonesty. Even with his stupid "standards" I don't see how she broke them. I see him as being upset because she was involved and didn't tell him, but I don't see that as a fault of hers, rather a fault of his. His standards were that she would always tell the truth. I don't see a direct lie, or at least, I don't see one with the information we've been given. There could have been one, hell there probably was one (the way the show is going it seems to go out of it's way to justify Hachiman's weirdness), but as of yet, I'm not sold on the idea.

My main point is actually that calling her dishonest is such a stretch that I think Hachiman is doing it because he doesn't want friends, rather than her actually being untruthful.


Stubborn old man. Just give up already xD

You do realize that there are people who consider not telling someone a crucial truth is the same as lying? That trying to smooth things out by saying it's "technically" not a lie is naught but splitting hairs, a pathetic excuse and a way to try and cop out from one's guilt and responsibility?
Hachiman seems to be one of them.

Also, try viewing it this way: Hachiman looked up to Yukino especially because he considered her very similar to himself. He pointed out that similarity in the second part of episode 1 and due to that similarity, he even tried to befriend her.
Which means: He thought she didn't care about what other people think of her just as he does. Yet Yukinoshita didn't tell him about the accident because she obviously DOES care about how Hachiman might start hating her because of that. (notice how flustered she is by the end of episode 9 when she tries to tell Hachiman the truth and gets cut off) She does care, therefore she's not as similar to him as he assumed. She worries and lies, therefore she is weaker than he anticipated.

With a bit of interpretation, you might even conclude that the way Yukinoshita behaved around Hachiman (Refusing and denying to be friends, abuse him with her words) was solely to keep him at a distance, so that she wouldn't feel hurt when he found out about the incident. Remember how her sister mentioned that Yukino has been "betrayed" in the past? Since hachiman is BOUND to hate her due to the accident, she made an effort not to get close to him.

And finally, the proof that she DID break Hachiman's standards:
Try rewatching the second part of episode 1:

Upon Hachiman entering the room, Yukino wonders if he came back because he shows romantic interest in her, which he denies. Yukino proceeds to share her past: Due to being cute and outstanding, she has always been hated and bullied by other girls. Therefore, she wishes to change the world and it's people.
(FFF subs)
Hachiman: "You're putting your efforts in a very wrong direction."
Yukino: "I still think it's better than sulking, shriveling and dying like you. I hate how you accept and affirm weakness."
Hachiman: Yukinoshita is suffering because she's blessed. It wouldn't be too hard for her to pretend she wasn't blessed and live a comfortable life. Because everyone on Earth lives their life that way. But Yukinoshita doesn't. She refuses to lie to herself. I'm sure that she and I are similar on some level. As unlike me as it was, I thought that. I even thought that the silence between us felt comforting. I had a feeling that my heart wanted to break from its steady beat and tick faster than the second hand of the clock. Maybe... Maybe she and I...
"Hey, Yukinoshita. If you want, I can... be your f- "
Yukino: "I'm sorry, but that's not happening."

At that point, Hachiman has established his standard and his ideal impression of Yukinoshita Yukino.
The Yukinoshita Yukino who does not hide her beauty and brilliance in order to fit in the crowd, instead choosing to be true to herself and accept the pain and solitude that comes with that decision.
The Yukinoshita Yukino who does not "pretend she wasn't blessed and live a comfortable life" because she "refuses to lie to herself".
There you have it. Hachiman's definition of lying.

The ideal Yukinoshita Yukino does not lie by hiding the truth that makes things harder for her. Yet the real Yukinoshita Yukino didn't tell him about her car hitting him because she didn't want to face the consequences. Therein lies the contradiction.
It doesn't even matter anymore WHEN did she find out about the Accident. Because once she came to know it, she didn't tell him. That already fits Hachiman's definition of lying.
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Hikki way of acting is epic as ever especially in the end with Yui or the way he talk about other...
Yukino in the end of the episode seemed like she had something really important to say to Hikki but he just kinda ignored it, i wonder what will happen in the next episode.
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This anime shows really wide collection of all high-school let-downs, misunderstandings, uncomfortable situations and awkward conversations anyone can get. This doesn't happen very often in anime and I still haven't made up my mind whether this is satisfying to watch or not. Main character is introvert convinced that nothing can change his situation and therefore he doesn't even try. There is no sense of hope for him right now and I am not sure that I like it. Apathy is bad and to be happy one have to try hard. But I guess this is the way life goes for some people.

Anyway, failed date this time - there was nothing romantic in this forced situation. Hikki was very annoying this time and he ruined a date for Yui. I guess this awkward hanabi pushed them to point of no repair and that's a shame cause Yui is nice person and she has feelings for Hikki. I also don't like the thing how Haruno is meddling in and trying to make him couple with Yukino.

Well, let's hope this series has some sort of good ending.
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Mich666 said:
This anime shows really wide collection of all high-school let-downs, misunderstandings, uncomfortable situations and awkward conversations anyone can get. This doesn't happen very often in anime and I still haven't made up my mind whether this is satisfying to watch or not. Main character is introvert convinced that nothing can change his situation and therefore he doesn't even try. There is no sense of hope for him right now and I am not sure that I like it. Apathy is bad and to be happy one have to try hard. But I guess this is the way life goes for some people.

Anyway, failed date this time - there was nothing romantic in this forced situation. Hikki was very annoying this time and he ruined a date for Yui. I guess this awkward hanabi pushed them to point of no repair and that's a shame cause Yui is nice person and she has feelings for Hikki. I also don't like the thing how Haruno is meddling in and trying to make him couple with Yukino.

Well, let's hope this series has some sort of good ending.


Well, I think if you hold the same expectations as other Anime for Oregairu, they will probably not be met. This anime is different from the others and should therefore be viewed from a different angle. Expecting a peachy-sweet romance, for example, will not do you any good.

It's not like Hachiman ruined the date. He never considered it a date in the first place. It's apparent that he currently does not regard Yui as a potential love interest.

PS: Hey there. Long time no see ^^
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Hachiman is a welcome sight to the world of male anime leads. A smart yet ultimately vulnerable guy who can read a situation and can be strong without resorting to emotional outbursts. And who can be clever without being a know it all.

I wonder if Yukino's coming down a notch in his book will lead to them having a better relationship down the line. Sometimes knocking people down from a pedestal is all you need to engage better with them.

Yukino' sister was unexpectedly callous and arrogant regarding the accident with Hachi. I'm surprised than in ultra-polite Japanese society, one could get away with saying it was just an accident and not apologize profusely.
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Actualy Hikki already recieved proper apologize from driver and lawer of Yukinoshita family, they also paid hospital bill. Haruno herself does seems to be uninvoled in accident itself, so in metter of "japanese society" everything is alright.
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Actualy Hikki already recieved proper apologize from driver and lawer of Yukinoshita family, they also paid hospital bill. Haruno herself does seems to be uninvoled in accident itself, so in metter of "japanese society" everything is alright.


He did? I must have missed it. If he has received an apology as well as having medical costs covered that changes things somewhat. Do you remember in which chapter this is mentioned?
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He did? I must have missed it. If he has received an apology as well as having medical costs covered that changes things somewhat. Do you remember in which chapter this is mentioned?


It's not mentioned in the anime.It's mentioned in the light novel at the end of volume 3.
Jun 7, 2013 7:51 AM

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Well, I think if you hold the same expectations as other Anime for Oregairu, they will probably not be met. This anime is different from the others and should therefore be viewed from a different angle. Expecting a peachy-sweet romance, for example, will not do you any good.

It's not like Hachiman ruined the date. He never considered it a date in the first place. It's apparent that he currently does not regard Yui as a potential love interest.

PS: Hey there. Long time no see ^^


Yeah, his lack of interest in her was well obvious in this episode. Or was he dumped by too many girls in the past that he simply doesn't believe Yui can really like him, perhaps he doesn't want to be disappointed again? But it pains me to see such nice girl getting rejected because I know I would acted differently. If his personality was a little better they could at least have some fun, both of them.

This anime has been somewhat different from the start and that's the main reason I picked it this spring. Its first episode really hooked me on, mainly because of well written dialogues and good characters. At first I wasn't expecting romance at all but they [the creators] started hinting at it later, after few episodes with Yui and Yukino scenes. But on the other hand I know this is not romance anime.

But my main problem is that some scenes and episodes doesn't give viewer some sense of satisfactory feel when they are over.. and sometimes, one gets rather perplexed when thinking about the real meaning behind it. I mean - we do see those situations in real life regularly. But the question is - do we really want to watch them on tv? Real life can be so boring sometimes and sometimes we want to see it from different perspective and try something different that's why we watch movies in the first place).

And when I am thinking about it I still don't see the main theme this anime should have. There are many smaller ones, yes, but when you asked yourself what this anime is all about I wouldn't wonder if you didn't know the answer immediately. What's the motor of this show? Is it about those high school social problems everyone gets in? About coming of age and little embarassments? About wounded self-confidence? About complications of sucessful integration into society? About characters need to help the others and about finding their own happiness? About misfortune that one can cope with and realizing that life goes on and that there is always hope if you try? About strange flow of events that ties all characters together? Or is it just some school slice of life from perspective of frustrated introvert?

P.S.: After Litte Busters I was occupied by completing second and third Fate Stay Night route lately, visual novels can be really time-consuming activity sometimes :) And I was watching some good old series to complete my long-time todo list. But I am still watching new series regularly and Oregairu is definitely one of better shows this season.
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Mich666 said:
And when I am thinking about it I still don't see the main theme this anime should have. There are many smaller ones, yes, but when you asked yourself what this anime is all about I wouldn't wonder if you didn't know the answer immediately. What's the motor of this show? Is it about those high school social problems everyone gets in? About coming of age and little embarassments? About wounded self-confidence? About complications of sucessful integration into society? About characters need to help the others and about finding their own happiness? About misfortune that one can cope with and realizing that life goes on and that there is always hope if you try? About strange flow of events that ties all characters together? Or is it just some school slice of life from perspective of frustrated introvert?


I'd say it's about showing high school life and society from the viewpoint of a loner... with a lot of cynism ^^
Though I admit, it took me a few seconds to come up with that answer.

The charm of the series lies firstly in the humor and secondly in the views of the MC which are a bit extreme, therefore make everything even more funny while at the same time, many anime viewers can relate to him pretty well. Also, since the life of a loner is not all fun and jokes, there are some serious and thought-provoking topics. But the humor never disappears entirely.
And therein might also lie the problem. People who can neither relate to loners nor find the humor of this series to their taste won't like it at all.

P.S.: Lucky guy. I'm still struggling with the first route though I should be done with it soon... it kinda kills your motivation if you already know what's going to happen...
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Hikki X Yui doesn't seem a possibility given that Hikki has already made it clear in the past episodes that these kind of girls (Yui) are not his type. I am more curious about the evil smile which Yui's friend Minami gave to Hikki when she saw him.

Was that out of pity? She was looking down on him? Or was it "you don't look so great, do you" smile?
Jun 7, 2013 8:42 PM

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This show is going to break me like Toradora! did...
Let this be our little secret, no needs to know we're feeling HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER!
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the preview makes me wonder if Hiki's coldness will turn Yui into......
Be thankful for those you have near who are dear
For time is not always kind to those who would be on your mind
Seize the day, some exclaim, but that which is past, no more shall have its day.
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This show really feels as though it chugging its way to a sad ending. Or at least a bitter sweet ending. If it ends with a lovey dovey happily ever after finale, then I might as well feel betrayed. Totally goes against the theme and would feel totally out of place.
Jun 9, 2013 12:43 AM

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Hikki is starting to hate himself :(
Jun 14, 2013 11:57 AM

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I don't think that Yui will confess to Hachiman anymore. I've always been rooting for her. But I am feeling this thing again... the feeling that I've felt when I watched the last 4 episodes of Kokoro Connect. I've always been rooting for Nagase but in the end, ..... naaah~ I won't tell about what happened coz I might spoil some people here.

Anyway, Yui = friendship. Maybe, she's just wants to thank Hachiman ..
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Hikky and Yui's convo with Haruno was uneasy to watch. There are obvious issues behind the scenes in the Yukinoshita family but all 3 of them dodged the topic whenever it came up. Social courtesy but still... We've all been in similar situations like they were in at the festival and those conversations are always the hardest to push through. Having to avoid the obvious but still seem sincere


God, i hate such moments. I stay away from them as much as possible. You can cut the air with a knife in such awkward moments.
Jun 17, 2013 2:19 PM

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Hmmm this Ep was great but i really dont understand about the last part and as always thx for the good Ep
Jun 18, 2013 12:10 AM

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This is really quite the interesting anime. Usual harem with a twisted pessimistic protagonist, I'm liking how the change affects the themes of the story. Looking forward to more as usual.
Jun 23, 2013 11:32 PM

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Wouldn't any other guy love to have hear what a girl was about to say? That idiot.

But I guess that he is just protecting himself.
Jul 5, 2013 6:37 AM

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God dammit!!! Was such a good episode, but he didn't give her the thing he bought, which I thought he would. >:(
Jul 19, 2013 8:29 PM

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I want to kill myself. FUCKING CONFESSION DODGE. I'm totally one for Yui x Hachiman or Hachiman x Saika.

Fuck Yukino.
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Nice festival episode, I really liked the scene with the older sister and well the ending was a bit weird but well lets see what happens next!
Aug 12, 2013 2:46 PM
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forreal the script for this anime is a masterpiece all those lines was just "wow"
Ezsence
Aug 13, 2013 10:02 AM

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WT..? Hikigaya totally pulled himself out of that.. confession.. intentionally @@. That was such a nice chance too, aw ): Poor Yui.
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Hm, yes. I need to get me one of those one-toothed kawaii imoutos with a secondary wingman feature.
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Hydnlife said:

At some point in time everyone lies words to live by.

While this is definitely true, it makes a huge difference in what kind of things you lie about/have lied about. There is stuff that's acceptable (because it isn't as important) and stuff you just know you shouldn't lie about.. If you know what I mean.

Welp, I think he's exaggerating here because I personally don't see the big deal in what she lied about - in the end she wasn't the one driving the car (it's not like she wanted that to happen..) and she probably also has her reasons.
But on the other hand I can relate to him being disappointed in someone else. Deep down you know its your own fault for expecting more of that person, but you just can't help still being frustrated with them..
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It's kind of sad to hear Hachiman say that he might be starting to hate himself :/
Though, I'm wondering if he's being completely honest. He acts proud, but most people I know that stay away from people and have a mindset that they can read everyone else seem to have a bit of self loathing going on.

That's just my experience, anyway.

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What a clever imouto, hahaha. Those hanabi scenes were really cute, loved the development.


and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'|
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