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kenshin_sama said: I have a split opinion of Ai. On one hand she's a pretty funny character and kinda cute, but she's also pretty annoying when she starts screaming for an unnecessary length of time. Also, lol @ Himeka at the beginning! I liked this episode, it was pretty fun to watch for the most part. Yeah I agree with this, she is a decent character until she goes off on a rant or something which is really annoying. Overall though not a bad character. The next episode is going to be good. |
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InfiniteRyvius said: Can't argue much with you there. You're generally right, however, I do recall him doing a few things that made her fall for him, such as saving her from drowning, solving her family issues etc. but it was pretty much fed to us, like you said, if my memory is correct. but like I said, it wasn't portrayed very well.Fair enough, some of the points you make are spot on, however I do not agree with all of them. First of all, White-haired-san seemed to be unusually attached to someone she didn't actually like to start with, and her romantic feelings for him (which have been fed to the audience, you can't have not noticed) also appeared quickly despite the fact that really, he hasn't done much to warrant a change in attitude. All of the noble white knight shit he's done (which would usually be the cause) has actually been against what she has wanted, or at the very least not aiming to protect her. This "development" does not feel genuine, but more like something that simply happens due to the increased episode count. I feel I'm beating a dead horse because this is a harem, and so contrived romantic development is practically inevitable, but even so, I still do not feel bored of pointing it out. I complain so much because I really detest this show because it's at best a mediocre harem anime, but it's really pretentious and that annoys me. And yes, I do think you're betting a dead horse, and very hard to be honest. |
AnimeHAwk616Feb 16, 2013 6:36 PM
InfiniteRyvius said: I feel I'm beating a dead horse because this is a harem, and so contrived romantic development is practically inevitable, but even so, I still do not feel bored of pointing it out. There is a lot of futility in what you're trying to do, but at least you're enjoying it. I can't ever imagine a harem that can be ever be romantically fulfilling. The only way a harem will ever be anything good is if it has a solid character cast, does well on comedy, and tries to avoid an open-ended conclusion. But with the absence of good characters, "meh" comedy, and not yet being seeing completion, this series pretty much lacks any sort of quality that would make it a fun harem to most. I still like OreShura, but only because I'm a huge fan of anime, I don't really mind the small stuff in this anime, and I like the characters regardless of their flaws. |
| I thought that there was no way I would hate the hall monitor more than Masuzu. I was proved wrong. Hall Monitor-chan is unbearable. Seriously, characters like Ai are the reason why some people have such a strong hatred for tsunderes. She's the epitome of a tsundere done wrong in every single aspect. She loves the protagonist she barely even knows just because (who needs an explanation he's the MC lel), gets flustered with EVERYTHING, can't do anything on her own (relied on her friend to help her even speaking to Eita), is extremely childsh and dumb to the point of inventing a fake boyfriend and bragging about him because OMG gotta look better than my rivalz!!11!1, and the worst of all, screamed all the time for absolutely NO REASON. Everytime she screamed I wanted to punch the fucking screen. I'm dropping this show, this episode gave me a headache from Ai's screams. |
jiroutachiFeb 16, 2013 7:06 PM
| Ai-chan is best girl. Oh, and it's funny how most of the complaints in this thread can be solved by just reading the source material. Do't me get me wrong, it doesn't excuse how shitty this anime is (I'd rate it 3/10) but it's best to read the manga (or LN, but it's not translated) so that the rest of the story will make sense. |
AnimeHAwk616 said: Can't argue much with you there. You're generally right, however, I do recall him doing a few things that made her fall for him, such as saving her from drowning, solving her family issues etc. but it was pretty much fed to us, like you said, if my memory is correct. but like I said, it wasn't portrayed very well. And yes, I do think you're betting a dead horse, and very hard to be honest. Now betting on a dead horse would be as futile as beating one, but the I think you meant beating lol. Solving her family problems? When did that happen, I'll be honest that last episode was so unbearable that I skipped through most of it, so, in fact, let's watch it now: Fuck, I like skipped the entire episode through... Hmm, wrong episode thread so I can't complain about here, what a pity. Okay, one sentence - Stupid and logically unsound argument made by MC somehow wins the day against someone who should have been acting like a bitch then then forgot her character, all whilst he can't work out how to get around a static bodyguard. However, it does at least explain why Hime likes him. Hime is a really warped character, and not terribly well written, however I can understand sort of why she's at least fall for him. That white knightery was so.... well, it gave us a reason at least. Oh yes, family issues, well, yeh, he did, but he was a complete bystander until they bullied Hime, he just asked meekly "are you alright with that?" to White-hair-san when she agreed to leaving. The younger bitch sister kinda forgot she was a bitch, hence why it was resolved without him doing much. Sure, people are silly and she wouldn't have known it originated from him protecting Hime rather than her, but it feels kinda thin. kenshin_sama said: InfiniteRyvius said: I feel I'm beating a dead horse because this is a harem, and so contrived romantic development is practically inevitable, but even so, I still do not feel bored of pointing it out. There is a lot of futility in what you're trying to do, but at least you're enjoying it. I can't ever imagine a harem that can be ever be romantically fulfilling. The only way a harem will ever be anything good is if it has a solid character cast, does well on comedy, and tries to avoid an open-ended conclusion. But with the absence of good characters, "meh" comedy, and not yet being seeing completion, this series pretty much lacks any sort of quality that would make it a fun harem to most. I still like OreShura, but only because I'm a huge fan of anime, I don't really mind the small stuff in this anime, and I like the characters regardless of their flaws. Can a harem ever be romantically fulfilling? Wasn't Clannad (not AS) technically a harem? It's different because not all the girls outright loved him (and it's based off something with potential paths rather than something where all paths utilized at once), but the main character was surrounded by loads of girls, many of which are attracted to him, and it shares similarities with regular harem, however that was pretty decent, not fantastic, but it worked didn't it? Then again, I'm not so sure whether I'd be as accepting of some parts of Clannad as I used to be, oh I've become so cynical. I'm a pretty big fan of anime myself you know, it's just that I don't like anime because it's anime. |
| Chiwa and Himeka = Not even close. AI VS MAZUZU 'nuff said Done. |
InfiniteRyvius said: Can a harem ever be romantically fulfilling? Wasn't Clannad (not AS) technically a harem? It's different because not all the girls outright loved him (and it's based off something with potential paths rather than something where all paths utilized at once), but the main character was surrounded by loads of girls, many of which are attracted to him, and it shares similarities with regular harem, however that was pretty decent, not fantastic, but it worked didn't it? Then again, I'm not so sure whether I'd be as accepting of some parts of Clannad as I used to be, oh I've become so cynical. It is arguably a harem, but technically not. A harem doesn't just involve many girls having an interest in the MC, but it can't claim that status if it focuses the romance on just one character. It is an adaption of a visual novel and girls will generally show some kind of interest in Tomoya, but that's only because the formatting of the medium requires them to so that the romance can actually kick off properly once the heroine's route has been started. Clannad spoiler InfiniteRyvius said: I'm a pretty big fan of anime myself you know, it's just that I don't like anime because it's anime. That's probably where you and me are opposites. I love a touch of anime with my anime! |
-Kenshin-Feb 16, 2013 8:00 PM
ihateeveryone said: Well said :3Well, she's better then the cunt, chihuahua, and chuunibyou. If someone who is aggressive and gives you lunch, you won't think it as "kyaa, she loves me" or whatever. Dude, remove the red marks on their faces and look from the MC's POV. |
CashdaxFeb 16, 2013 8:54 PM
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InfiniteRyvius said: Well, we're talking anime here - with all the supernatural and zombie themed stories, just because the horse is dead doesn't mean it can't be a winner.Now betting on a dead horse would be as futile as beating one, but the I think you meant beating lol. Is Clannad a 'harem' - hmm. Interesting question. I could go both ways there. |
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| Yay, a tsundere~ Ai's my new favorite character, and I'll be rooting for her (though she probably won't win, as tsunderes almost never do). |
| Seems like Ai loved him since childhood or something like that. Damn japs and their photographic memory, I can't even remember my former classmates from highschool, but they remember their promises when they were 5 years old and stuff. Ai is love (Indeed...), first episode I've enjoyed out of 7, she's pretty hilarious to watch. @Nitro_Eurobeatz Tsunderes do if they're voiced by Rie. |
| Ai-chan is pretty cute... she's why I like tsunderes. However, I wasn't found of the fact that she lied the whole time about having a boyfriend. That was pretty immature. |
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Yay! We get to learn about Ai, I was dying to get more screentime of the pink girl too bad this episode had to end with a cliffhanger. |
| Tsundere's will never die, no matter how bad and how annoying they may be... |
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
BULLDOG266 said: Tsundere's will never die, no matter how bad and how annoying they may be... Don't you have two tsundere characters in your favorites list? |
| Ai-chan is quite the interesting character. She seems like a tsundere at the start, but she's all deredere during that bento scene and overly genki when pleased. She and Kaoru are acquaintances as well. I hope that counts for something and not just a random fact that won't come into play later on. The club may have been disbanded, but Eita's torment continues. Should have grabbed the chance at freedom the first time. It was amusing to see almost everyone gathered in the family restaurant. When put under pressure, Ai seemed to dig herself deeper into the apparent lie she created. This episode made me like Ai, but it's still #TeamChiwa for me. |
| A chan is cute, instant fav. |
| This episode was enjoyable, but Ai, being the tsundere she is, will probably never ever confess because tsunderes won't do that. She's just fucking it up for herself. Now that the harem crew is complete, I wonder if this'll turn into yet another generic thing or if it'll remain (kinda) good. |
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| Did anybody notice when Eita got the text from Masuzu it was like the imperial march from star wars? any way it was an ok episode I enjoyed it. |
| A-chan's character is refreshing...Thought this anime was becoming boring now it is better. |
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Mauno said: Hase0 said: This. I really like her tsunderederegenki character. :DA chan is cute, instant fav. This just got a bit more interesting now that anime passed the point where the manga translations left. It was bit boring to know each and every thing that's going to happen next. I don't regard the anime adaption as bad many of you seem to do. In fact the manga in Japanese only goes this far. The novels are ahead of course. |
| From now, my favourite girl is Ai-chan. I think that story with her can be even more intresting than with Masuzu. |
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| Ehh an okay ep, neat character interactions, I also think her lies will come crashing down next ep (A-chans that is). But two issues for me. One it feels like this ep was more of a cram ep trying to cover too manythings at once. Two another girl in the Harem. From what I've noticed of such shows, for the most part the more girls you add the less likely for a for sure ending. Then again keeping up with the manga I don't suspect an ending least not on S1. |
RedArmyShogunFeb 17, 2013 6:30 AM
HacheKa said: Please avoid using racial slur words in an online forum, even if you did not intend to mean it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JapDamn japs and their photographic memory, I can't even remember my former classmates from highschool, but they remember their promises when they were 5 years old and stuff. Anyway, full cast of harem is finally in place. Now things should get really interesting. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Ai is now my favorite character <3 She's so cute and funny. |
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Kuraaiiya said: Are you retarded? So there's no reason because they haven't shown it yet? I've read spoilers and I know why she likes him, don't just assume there is no reason at all because they didn't show it immediately. And it was briefly foreshadowed in episode.  ~pui |
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| Eita at the beginning was hilarious!! Ai is quite likable, she's cute too. |
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| Fuyuumi is pretty easy to read it was obvious she was lying about the boyfriend and it's obvious she has a crush on Eita she is also very shy and she yells when she gets angry. Her behaviour was also like the typical tsundere i liked her behaviour tho. I think this anime needs something to spice it up a bit and that's where Fuyuumi comes in i guess. Chiwa and Masuzu ganging up on her wasn't very nice of them but she did provoke it in a way and let herself be provoked in telling that lie as well. She has to become honest at some point tho. |
Kuraaiiya said: Are you retarded? So there's no reason because they haven't shown it yet? I've read spoilers and I know why she likes him, don't just assume there is no reason at all because they didn't show it immediately. Now, I'm sure that reading through the thread was probably quite a bit too much effort for you, it's quite a lot of words, so I'll kindly leave you this quote from earlier. InfiniteRyvius said: Hey, many harems don't bother to given reasons, the characters just do and you're supposed to accept that. That said, I'm sure this will series may bother to give us a reason, although, if Hime is anything to go by, the reason shall be shite. No, really. Like, the romance between him and Chiwa is a case of "childhood friends always fancy the protagonist" and for white-haired-san, she's falling for him simply because she's remained in his presence for a long time, that's not really a reason is it? No really, it's not is it? I'm just saying, don't just assume I didn't say anything on it at all because it didn't show it in this page of the thread. |
| Ai-Chan was annoying but I think she will be likeable towards the end of the series. I like Kaoru, he is likeable and a good friend but its too bad he doesn't have an love interest. The other two girls I could care less about but Eita's childhood friend is okay. Can't wait to see how this movie theater into a war zone turns lol. |
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| Wow, Ai is freaking crazy! Kaoru kept trying to help her too, I feel bad for him. xD |
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InfiniteRyvius said: This new girl is tedious, she has one personality trait and they just ramp it up to eleven. It's Character Exaggeration to the max, and it's rather annoying. My favourite character is now the male lead's best friend, because he's actually not a tool, yet still nice. I feel sorry for him, why does he have no love interests? oh wait, the reason's obvious. Sucks to be the non main character. While I haven't really thought about it, I've always had the impression that if Kaoru was interested in anyone, it would have been Eita. Eita did a good job of being dense when it came to eating lunch with them. Not even the toothpicks with hearts registered with him. Kaoru has his work cut out for him. But I liked how Eita thanked Fuyuumi for being willing to eat dinner with him. While she has her charms, she does boil over into annoying territory at a rather low temperature. I'm sure she'll become more appealing though. But Masuzu is still the best of them all. It was amusing how she explained her new tone when speaking to Eita at the Cafe Vertu. Why hide it when they're alone together. |
kenshin_sama said: Actually I think he has atleast 3, and he has rie kugimiya in is favorites.BULLDOG266 said: Tsundere's will never die, no matter how bad and how annoying they may be... Don't you have two tsundere characters in your favorites list? |
AnimeHAwk616 said: kenshin_sama said: Actually I think he has atleast 3, and he has rie kugimiya in is favorites.BULLDOG266 said: Tsundere's will never die, no matter how bad and how annoying they may be... Don't you have two tsundere characters in your favorites list? I decided to leave out his score for Toradora and having KugiRie in his favorites because that would involve making an assumption. Sure, these two facts do support the idea that he does indeed like tsunderes, but they aren't hard evidence that he does indeed like them. For one, Toradora can be enjoyed for something other than the tsundere romance (even if it is the most prevalent aspect in the series). Also, KugiRie doesn't always voice a tsundere character and she can do an excellent job on non-tsundere roles (something like Gintama, Rizelmine, and Nyaruko). I only went with his character favorites because they are an obvious indicator that he does indeed like tsunderes. Speaking of that, where do you see 3? The only tsunderes I see on his list are Makise Kurisu and Misaka Mikoto. Edit: Oh yeah, Takamura Yui is one of them, isn't she? I almost forgot since I don't really care for the Muv-Luv anime. |
| Wow, this show is so terrible. Ive seen this story and characters million times already. You'd think they come up with something new already? |
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| ah know we've got a tsundere.. well mainstream but hey i like tsundere :3 |
zansabarshadow said: Wow, this show is so terrible. Ive seen this story and characters million times already. You'd think they come up with something new already? It's called |
Uberchu said: zansabarshadow said: Wow, this show is so terrible. Ive seen this story and characters million times already. You'd think they come up with something new already? It's called Even if the LN is good, he's talking specifically about the show, that is, indeed, shit, so calm your tits a little if possible. |
| I like tsundere who can change from tsun to dere like a remote switch. |
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| Whooo Kayano Ai's character finally surfaced and the story is starting to get painful for me to watch to see 4 girls falling in love with a guy but then it'll most likely be a harem in the end :c |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
sedrick123 said: Did anybody notice when Eita got the text from Masuzu it was like the imperial march from star wars? any way it was an ok episode I enjoyed it. I noticed that to. It was fitting considering who was texting him. Anyway an okay episode for me, don't know how I feel about Ai yet. |
| To be honest, while I do like Ai's backstory (I'm a huge sucker for childhood friends xD), I do feel this series would've done much better with just Masuzu and Chiwa. They were doing great with just tension between the two of them, but now having thrown in two others, things are beginning to feel uncomfortable. They could've had a full-blown romance, but instead went for a harem. The knowledge that Eita will eventually need to choose between four rather than two girls leaves a bad taste in the mouth. They've still managed to pull off some of my favorite scenes this season though. So much potential which would've done better with just two girls, but oh well. |
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