Hanasaku Iroha Episode 13 Discussion

Orulyon said:

she matured but its just not enough. she has a long long way to go. on the previous eps, the talk she had on the phone with Ko was simply ridiculous. Confusing and not bothering to explain anything at all and ended up not giving him a reply but at the same time confusing everything by telling him" not to go". Which mean due to that we will probably never see Ko trying to go to Kissuiso again.
i wonder when she will have a decent talk with Ko. she is letting time passing by and obviously, Ko wont wait forever. If she already made her decision to not go to Tokyo, at least she should free herself from Ko properly, not "letting him go" but without clearly saying that to him.

Jolon said:

Ohana's uncle always gets the short end of the stick. I really feel bad for the guy- he comes off as a born loser, and the way his family treats him doesn't help.

mindflayer said:
Nice family bonding moment near the end, did not expect that.

That manager guy is Ohana's uncle? :|[/quote

it was told in probably 1st or 2nd episode.Didn't he called her mother by saying nee-san(sister).

Ovindel said:
The three being drunk was funny, and of course the slaps.
And it seems like Ohana has given up on Kou-chan. The sadness...

zetsuboSensei said:
The Grandmother-Mother-Daughter bonding was great. 5/5

OtakuronZ said:
I wonder why Ohana's mother changed during years. ; n ;

kaleidostar1187 said:


Well I mean Ohana's grandmother is not the easiest person to live with. I mean Ohana's mom did not have a mom, she had a boss, who was the hotel owner. So that's got to be tough to live with.

HatsumiShinogu said:
This series is awesome. I did feel bad for Ko as he is so nice and considerate. I'm not sure what is going to happen at this point but I wish for something to happen between Tooru and Ohana, though it is very likely it might not happen.

After watching a lot of anime and such relationships, I do think there's a chance for Minko to have Tooru if Ohana rejected him. This happens a lot in anime. He might realize late that she had always cared for him. I don't want this to happen, though. :( I am all for Tooru and Ohana.

Cirris said:


It was charming to see the family together. Especially in the evening drinks scene.

Ohana

Ohana coming to realizations stuck me as the most important thing to come about in this episode. She finally says she loves Ko. It's an important revelation for her. However, it comes at a price. She also loves her life at Kissiuso. The only thing left to figure out is if she can have both or will she have to let Ko go. The longer she waits the more I feel the decision might be made for her. Ko has been a patient wonderful guy. However, he has a breaking point and a girl who already cares deeply for him.




Satsuki

Satsuki also came to some realizations of her own. Maybe she realized that her opinions of Kissiuso were based on her desire to leave there when she was younger. The mundane familiarity of her being there all her life may have clouding he journalistic objectivity. She did write a nice letter at the end to Ohana which seemed to serve as an I'm sorry for my actions and retraction to her original review. Hopefully this would have been placed in the magazine as well. But I have a feeling the editors who are being paid off won't allow it.

Satsuki really redeemed herself in this episode. Though i think she still did wrong by Ohana in some ways, she does seem to have a charming personality that makes it easy to forgive her complete screwups. She really gave Nakochi a wonderful impression. It was nice to see Nakochi glowing when talkign about her.


Okami Shijima

I finally understand why Okami, Grandma, was so spiteful towards Satsuki saying "she doesn't mean cats and dogs to me" when talking to Ohana for the first time. Her dreams were for the Shijima family to run Kissiuso together. Satsuki didn't want this. It was more of a classic "parent's wishes vs child's dreams" scenario. Okami's desires being unfulfilled left a resentment towards Satsuki that may have placed a burden on Ohana when she first came there. Ohana's love of Kissiuso must warm Okami's heart. Although her wish didn't come true all hope wasn't lost as her granddaughter wishes to remain there. Ohana confirmed this in her drunken stupor.


Enishi Shijima / young master

The scene where Okami bitchslaps her Enishi was hilarious. Enishi running to that retard consultant for everything was getting old. He needed to be told. But, I finally understood the reasoning for Okami tolerating it for so long. Her son was always treated like the outcast of the family. Used and abused seems to be his way of life. You can't help but feel sorry for him after this episode when you see the flashback scenes with him and his sister and also him talking to Tohru. I think Okami also tolerated his pathetic attempts at courting the consultant chick because she understood his desire for something tangible to call his own.


Shrine steps finale scene

The last scene seemed semi redundant. It really just reiterated that her place now is at Kissiuso. That she plans to stay there for some time and maybe even fulfill Okami Shijima's wish of a family run business. It was almost like it was replaying the dreaming shrine scene all over again.

It seems worth repeating. Ohana finally admits that she loves Ko. But is it meant to be? Or, does loving someone mean that you have to let them go?

Ohana saying "see ya" seemed like it might be the end for all hope of a Ko x Ohana ship. But I just got this gut feeling that it'll be back. Ohana didn't tell Ko "no" properly. It may be the thing that keeps the hope alive that we'll see them together again at some point, Or at least give us some more Ko screen time as the response I finally played out.