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| I already talked about why I thought it was balanced, but I'll quote myself anyways. noteDhero said: I'm really confused about the people who say this movie didn't do anything for the plot development. This movie completely presented what happened to Akira at the end of the tv show, created a conflict with his past being totally erased, showed what happened to Eden and the creators becoming what they were complaining about as NEETs, Introduced two more Selecao, and amped up the stakes at the end with Mononobe attacking the new, roving Juiz. There was nothing stagnant about this movie at all. What I did notice, though was a fluid pace that didn't feel nearly as hectic as the show did. I remember lots of people (including myself) complaining about how fast things went, and how quickly the show would resolve the conflict. So, now that that issue is resolved by changing the medium to film, people are calling it 'boring.' I call it balanced storytelling. Emboldened for emphasis. This movie did a hell of a lot, and was still funny, somewhat touching, and energetic. I felt constant forward motion, and momentum, and that's hard to keep up for a feature-length flim. I think a lot of people were expecting the movie to hit the ground running like the show did, but besides the fact that they are two different animals, the movie had a lot to address, and it didn't feel like to movie was bogged down in dealing with it from my perspective. |
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| Don't know what more to say when you give one word replies. I think they did completely present what happened. Maybe there's another twist, I don't know, but as it stands, I don't have any questions about what happened to him between the show and the movie. But fine, I'll concede that it wasn't "complete." Anything else? |
| So presented to you means that it has to be shown? Akira lost his memory, and as they wandered off the building, Juiz made moves to have Akira become the prime minister's son--so he could become 'king'-- while his image became iconoclastic. Akira and Saki were taken to the police station where he was given the seeds for his new identity and whisked away, while she was questioned about her involvement in the missile attack. Akira was given a job in NY, and he's slowly been trying to remember his past, but to no avail, mistaking Juiz for his real mother. He continues some sort of life in NY until he meets Saki, when the pieces begin to come back together. Of course it didn't present everything that happened after the TV series. There are still two more movies, but even then, it still won't be everything. There were two main pieces of exposition in the movie that described what happened, one from Akira, and one from Kazuomi while everyone waited for a call from Saki. Those moments filled in much of what was going on in between the movie and the show. On top of that there was dialogue/monologuing by Kuroha and Mononobe that further gave a frame for what had been/is going on in the story. I don't think anything is just implied when we see corroboration in the result of the changes that have happened in everyone's lives, but I suppose that's just me. I think I've done a pretty good job explaining in my own words why I gave it an 8, as opposed to your quoting other people and giving it a 6. But this isn't about scores in the first place. This is about your disagreeing that the story was balanced, while not really giving your own examples and sharing your own viewpoint. |
| ugh definitely didnt expect tht kind of ending :S |
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| GREAT!!! Hollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... damn,,,can't wait for the second movie.... |
IZUMI64 said: Actually.. That's a great idea! : OHollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... God I'd like to see that, would be awesome~ : D |
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Oosran said: IZUMI64 said: Actually.. That's a great idea! : OHollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... God I'd like to see that, would be awesome~ : D We all know it would suck. |
Schreibtisch said: Of course it would, seeing as Hollywood can't do anything right nowadays, but it's a good story at least, so no need to be pessimistic about it.Oosran said: We all know it would suck.IZUMI64 said: Actually.. That's a great idea! : OHollywood need to make this into LIVE ACTION,,,It will better than Dragon Ball or BLEACH... God I'd like to see that, would be awesome~ : D Aim for Bollywood instead? |
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| With Shahrukh Khan as any character? I'm in! |
| Sure is Holden Caulfield in here. Kind of a meh movie, but still left me wanting more. |
| Not as paced as the TV series, was hoping for that same pace. Skip to 6 months after the series and make the movie a slow day. Oh well. 7/10 |
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| Here's some interesting things i spotted in the movie: -Yuki (which i believe is the name of the redhead) actually uses photoshop for work!!!!! If you pause the scene with her in front of a computer, it is definitely the layout of photoshop as i recognize the toolbars. -Also, Eden of hte East seems to really like Apple computers as i think all of the computers in that office were apple. You can magnify the backs of the computer and see an apple symbol. And would any one like to tell me how u guy stake screenshots of these shows. I download them in .mkv, and i was wondering what programs all you use to get the screenshots from a .mkv. Reply to my wall if you can. |
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| What was with her last request moving the third truck to the front? Didn't get the point in that. Sorry if I'm a bit slow |
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| I think they used apple as another reference to Eden. You know, the appletree and stuff. |
| Really good movie. Saki and Akira meeting again was a fantastic reunion. |
| Well the serious seemed to be a bit more exciting compared to the movie... I just don't understand why he would wipe his mind a second time either, but oh well... Hopefully the second movie will be more exciting, I think it might be the conclusion? |
| I felt the movie could have been structured better, as pacing was an issue and the climax really didn't leave me on edge like it probably should have done, but the movie was okay. Loved the reference to The Man Who Stole the Sun. |
| I didn't get what was up with the trucks... XD |
Ahohime said: I didn't get what was up with the trucks... XD i think were carrying juiz support for each person |
| Saki was so kawaii |
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Oosran said: Jigero said: And going by that, haha tough luck being No. 6, having his own Juiz bail out on him xDAokaado said: Those were Juiz, they where mobile servers, each holding a Juiz for each Selecao, he tried to blow up everyone's Juiz, but his own, there for the other Selecao can't do shit and effectively cutting the head off the snake. It looks like the only people left with a Juiz is No.1 and No.09.DeathHormone said: agreed, and yea, wtf was all that?I really enjoyed it, yeah it was slow paced but i didn't mind it, just wish the 2nd film was out! The trailer part confused me, perhaps the trailers carry some sort of cargo that has some connection to juiz, although to me, it looked like the trailers were carrying more missiles(but that wouldn't make sense?) The reason Juiz seems different was because there was only 1 Juiz before, but they moved Juiz into different mobile servers for each Selecao, so those separate Juiz must have tailored them selves to each Selecao. Jhahaha that was a great LMFAO Wow I didn´t understood all that thing about the Juiz´s thanks for that |
| It was okay.. everything was boring not until the 40 minute mark onwards after that it was a bit confusing *So you need to erase your memories just to survive death? (Supporter) *What was those trailer truck for? after being destroyed the Selecao became inactive but alive |
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| OK, I can't wait to see the end now.. I hope we will then know who the supporter is or was? (and who's number 12?) I also wonder why number 1 knows the minister all of a sudden, nasty little fella, that number 1.. |
| I pretty much figured out that Juiz was different some how from the series favouring other players and treating others like dirt. From there I was lost.... |
Yukushi said: What was with her last request moving the third truck to the front? Didn't get the point in that. Sorry if I'm a bit slow if u remember, juiz was a huge computer thing in the anime, at the end, they had to get a "wireless" version of juiz and each truck was for each selecio. in my opinion, the truck that was targeted was at akira's "juiz", thus, the girl knowing this, had her juiz become the sacrifice. anyway, that was an interesting movie, it wasnt that great, but there was a lot of stuff happening, though there was hardly any development between saki and akira, or atleast their back to where they started now. like everyone has said before, they basicly put everything in place for the next movie, we know that akira look-a-like is alive but it seems he wants to get revenge without the help of juiz. the guy with the hat, the docter, and the girl are alive but eliminated. the other guy with the glasses seems to want to win through casulties, and our hero still wants to be king but is in a pinch with his PM's son's side. i wonder how the wife will act when they meet, somthing tells me she might secretly involved with this, but we'll find out. |
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| The movie was nice, but I still don't understand why Akira wanted/needed to get his memory erased again. |
| Son, I am dissapoint. Very much so. It wasn´t interesting at all, unlike the series. Furthermore, only the last 10-20 minutes really added something to the story. Ooh and the opening was horrid. Even the jokes weren't really funny. But at least this movie has laid the foundation of my Juiz hatedom. And it is a pretty good build/up to the second movie, I guess. So a 6. |
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| Just thought I'd add my review of the movie to the discussion: Review: Eden of the East - The King of Eden |
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| Not much happened, just build-up. It was still nice to see the characters again. I hope the time they took to set everything up from this movie makes the next one epic! |
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| Felt like a episode not a movie, but uuhh I'll have to watch the TV series again i can't remember HALF the things that happened in it >.< sigh.. Well it was a OK i guess, i'll have to re-watch the series and movie again then give a proper rating, nice build up at the end for the next movie ^^ |
| Meh, it was alright. I can't say the same thing about the ending song though... because it was amazing!!! *downloads* :D |
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| I actually really enjoyed it 9/10. I'll agree it was a little slow in parts, but everything was interesting, and the story progressed smoothly. It was awesome that Eden of East became so big, all because of Takizawa's involvement. It was exactly what he was trying to do... The ending was superb, and set the final movie up perfectly. I can't wait to see the epic showdown between Takizawa and Mononobe, gonna be the chizz!! Urahara Out!! |
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| Not that great compared to the series. That's not to say it was bad either, but it didn't really answer many questions, and it seemed to move really slow compared to the series. Saki was incredibly stupid for most the movie, I don't know what Akira sees in her, aside from the fact that she's cute. At times it feels like it's trying to be Death Note, with the memory erasing, the attempts and interesting twists, even the way Number 1 talks. Of course it's not as good though. |
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Well it was nice to see some more of Eden. Maybe it wasn't as good as the series, but it still was an enjoyable watch. Looking forward to next movie. |
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| awesome stuff :D i was actually surprised it ended quickly, i didn't know this was spread across 2 movies. i really enjoy alot of moments here like Saki's time with Takizawa in the theater, and him spending all day in the merry go round :D and i like Saki's hair tied back, she looks cute!!!!! >____< man they reveal alot of Selaco in this movie. it's a shame it's ending sooner, i still wished they did a 24 episode in season 1 then make the two movies. i feel they could have expanded the character background as well as screen time with other members of the eden of the east. still amazing show as always, the animation is superb and the music is lovely :D 9/10 can't wait for the finale!!!!!! |
| I don't know why I'm so biased to this anime. XD I love shows that have this mystery/action aspect along with a city setting. :P Plus I love the characters in Higashi no Eden. I adore the OST for this movie and the OP/ED music. I liked the romantic moments. I liked the Selaco parts too. 9/10 |
| Quite nice sequel to where the series stopped. As I thought he removed his memories again, and well the journey to find him back was quite nice, I do wonder what's up next so lets find out in the second movie! |
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Grimmm said: Seeing "The Catcher in the Rye" mentioned was a plus. :P I love that book. xD It was one of the rare books I actually read in school. =/ And this is why I love Production IG. I think it's nice that they often allude to things, for anyone who had read The Catcher in the Rye, they would also see the connection of the carousel and the book. It's really interesting. Production IG also made lots more allusions in Psycho Pass as well. Leaves more room for thoughts. That aside, I loved the movie! In the last 10 minutes of the movie, I decided to check how many minutes was left, and I was shocked! I didn't think the movie would end so quickly! It had my attention the whole way through. I also liked how Juiz seems to have more personality , especially her interaction with No.6. She was definitely snarky XD Seems like Juiz also really likes Akira. She sounded disappointed when Akira said he wanted to cancel his request. And wow, Kuroha. At first I really didn't like her, but she actually sacrificed her cart. Then again, if she's out of the game, I would think that actually makes her safe from elimination. Which reminds me, I also don't understand how Ryou is still alive just by destroying his phone. Hm. Next movie, here I come! Oh yeah I totally forgot...that part when Kuroha leaves Akira and Saki was done beautifully. Her black scarf flowing in the wind = the black wings in that illusion from that one episode. I'm not good with symbolism, but I think it shows that Kuroha is like a guardian of Akira (kind of...a dark guardian? o_O) |
tingyMar 7, 2013 12:20 AM
tingy said: Oh yeah I totally forgot...that part when Kuroha leaves Akira and Saki was done beautifully. Her black scarf flowing in the wind = the black wings in that illusion from that one episode. I'm not good with symbolism, but I think it shows that Kuroha is like a guardian of Akira (kind of...a dark guardian? o_O) Precisely my thoughts, definitely best scene of the movie. And I think he only made her rethink her doing. No more Johnny's cuts after this. She knew her winning was not an option so she changed her XI truck with IX's place and removed herself from the game. And with XII removed my presumption is No. 1 is Supporter or Mr.Outside. I really can't wait to see the end :) |
| DAT misunderstanding lol in the beginning with the gun. Looks like 6 months has passed by huh? Wow, time flies fast. Nice to see Saki and Akira together again for a bit. I lol'd @ the people thinking of what those might do at the apartment hahaha Akira's home really reminds me of this building I saw on television a few years though. Maybe it's just me or something. Overall movie was okay I guess, wasn't as exciting as I originally had hoped.. 6.5/10. |
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| They must really like the catcher in the rye, i had seen some refences of this in GITS, and Psycho-Pass. I read it school and find it a bit overrated |
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| It seems my opinion about this movie will be strongly affected by the fact that I watched the series not long ago. To start with, the film had the tendency of slowing down the pace. Somehow it felt as if it was a Special episode, or three of them considering the length, because the events were not as interesting or thrilling as they should be, to take the descriptions and the series. Another drawback: I still can't seem to understand the scheme. The organization has way too much power and it allows for the practically impossible in no time. Are there plot-holes or is it just the wrong balance of the in-series time? Other than that, I quite enjoying watching the film. It follows the series and there are no unnecessary explanations about events from it. A proper sequel, aimed for the audience who've seen the series. I rated it the same as the series, as I feel it the right continuation. I need to confirm my opinion on the whole thing with the second movie, though. |
utsukuruAug 2, 2013 2:16 AM
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