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Feb 2, 2011 1:00 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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And shit continues to hit the fan.
I somewhat expected that dude (Apocryphos, was it?), to either be in a very close relation to Innocence or simply, as it turned out, to be Innocence.
All I need now is moar Lenalee. And some more Road as well. ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌
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Feb 2, 2011 1:06 AM
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Whoa, Innocence... Apocryphos... *_*

Allen / Road ♥ and I like how the other Noah came to his prison. I wonder why, though?
Feb 2, 2011 1:25 AM
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noah save allen ....guess the Dark order isn't save anymore ....
Feb 2, 2011 1:30 AM
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What the hell are those anemones growing out of Link's eyes, get them outttt.

I am thoroughly confused on the Cross situation now. Allen didn't call himself by that name before? Innocence can singularly become a functioning citizen?

Noah appearances are always fabulous though so this was a good chapter for me.
Feb 2, 2011 3:37 AM
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I am thoroughly confused on the Cross situation now. Allen didn't call himself by that name before? Innocence can singularly become a functioning citizen?
I don't understand the entire callback to Cross in this chapter. What the heck was that all about? Oh man, the art really confused me. Have we seen the cardinal before? Or is he just some random dude who shot Cross? Did he shoot Cross? MY HEAD. IS KILLING ME. I need the Doctor

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Feb 2, 2011 5:01 AM
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A new enemy !! Smell like a need of an alliance.
Feb 2, 2011 5:10 AM
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The flashback sure is still confusing. But I'm sure they'll explain the whole flashback later on.
Maybe Allen's past is more complicated that it seems.

It's an interesting twist of plot, I must say. XD.

Bravo, noah saves the day. I love to see Road's scene with Allen.
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Feb 2, 2011 6:45 AM
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The art is as messy as ever. Add some tentacle/seaweed-like things coming out of Allen and that butt ugly Innocence dude(forgot the name) plus Road and Tyki Mik showing out of nowhere and with a touch of a cryptic flashback and presto, we have a very bad chapter.
Road hugging Allen made me smile a bit though, even if I don't like the pairing.
Feb 2, 2011 8:24 AM
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The art is as messy as ever. Add some tentacle/seaweed-like things coming out of Allen and that butt ugly Innocence dude(forgot the name) plus Road and Tyki Mik showing out of nowhere and with a touch of a cryptic flashback and presto, we have a very bad chapter.
Road hugging Allen made me smile a bit though, even if I don't like the pairing.

Add some tree branches to the tentacle/seaweed description. The name was Apocryphos, which makes sense for lots of reasons, including Biblical.
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Since I can't edit because of the damn lag........

Extra points for Tyki Mik <3 Road <3 and no Lenalee.

Feb 2, 2011 9:38 AM
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Before people complain about the next chapter coming out in two months (as someone ALWAYS does) - please note that Jump SQ's issues are always a month ahead.

So the next chapter comes out next month as usual.
Feb 2, 2011 9:38 AM

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part with Tyki and Raod was quite nice.
well, if they are there, they will bring Allen to Lavi, nya~ ♥

but... what this freak did with Link?
Feb 2, 2011 9:59 AM

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What did cross mean by allen not introducing himself as allen? did that innocence dude kill cross or not?
Feb 2, 2011 11:19 AM

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YEX said:
A new enemy !! Smell like a need of an alliance.


we demand additional lumber!



you know, i am convinced that road will eventually betray the earl. she just seems too smitten with Allen that he might soon fall for her too hehehe.
Feb 2, 2011 11:24 AM

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awesome chapter.

- the flashback is intriguing. On one point it COULD mean that Allen was there when Cross was shot, on other hand it coul dhave been a simple memory transfer due to the dude sticking the vines into allen.
- Poor link :<
- It only makes sense that Innocence has the "footsoldiers" just like dark matter has akuma.
- The word "apocrypha" fits VERY well with those beings as it basically means "those who are hidden away". Basically Heart has his/her foot soldiers infiltrated into the order and most likely everywhere else. Now what is even more interesting that apocrypha in its religious meaning is "something that is NOT of divine roots". Really interested into the whole "secret war" mentioned by both bookman and earl. I am quite sure that we know a very small part of what is going on and that things are not exactly as they seem.


5/5
Feb 2, 2011 11:36 AM

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I found the art quite amazing this time though the chapter was a bit confusing especially the part with Cross. I assume we're getting an explanation soon.
I loved how Road hugged Allen~
Feb 2, 2011 11:57 AM

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oh Link get his ass kicked allen get his ass kicked and then Tyki save the day quite a entertaining chapter + allen x road always nice ;)
Feb 2, 2011 1:04 PM

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Road and Allen <3
So cute.

But uhhh...weird growth like things? Not so cute.

I'm confused again. :(
In general, an alright chapter.
Feb 2, 2011 1:13 PM

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WTF just happened in this chapter?
That was some nasty shit that the cardinal was putting into Allen and Link!!
Tyki Mikk (my true love) came to save Allen. Oh, and Road was there too. LOL!!
What was the flashback with Cross about? Does that mean Cross is still alive? Goddess, I hope so!! I love that man, too!
This Apocryphos...Ewwwww!!! I'll be having nightmares about that thing! Yuck!
I'm still dying to find out who has the Heart!!

And this is just yummy!!
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Feb 2, 2011 1:21 PM

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im having a headache from this messy chapter ..
but tyki made this chapter awsome <3
Feb 2, 2011 3:57 PM

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Fai said:
Now what is even more interesting that apocrypha in its religious meaning is "something that is NOT of divine roots".

Actually that's debatable depending on your religion and the denomination of that religion. Where I went to school, we studied the Apocrypha, but it wasn't a part of the standard issue Bible (I don't even recall which version we used.) we had used from pre-k till our sophomore year. It was a separate book. A lot of Bibles do include it and consider it as canon. God I hated religion class.

Feb 2, 2011 11:50 PM
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Spiritual power...?

Wait, Apocryphos protects the Heart and it's an Innocence itself? Why the hell is he going around and killing the Exorcists then?
Feb 3, 2011 5:46 AM

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Woah! This was epic chapter! ;D worth waiting

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
lightness vs. darkness
Nani mo kamo wo hoshigatteita Mayoeru mono no chikai
Mada miru sekai o tsukuridasu koto Kuchi hateteiku
Feb 3, 2011 9:09 AM
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I can't believe people are confused about the Cross flashback. Haven't you read, or at least read a summary, of D.Gray-Man Reverse 3? It came out two months ago, and it's a story of how Allen met Mana and General Cross (he first met General Cross BEFORE he turned Mana into an Akuma).
Feb 3, 2011 9:36 AM

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I can't believe people are confused about the Cross flashback. Haven't you read, or at least read a summary, of D.Gray-Man Reverse 3? It came out two months ago, and it's a story of how Allen met Mana and General Cross (he first met General Cross BEFORE he turned Mana into an Akuma).
Give us a link or it didn't exist.
Feb 3, 2011 10:20 AM

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Jaymie said:
Before people complain about the next chapter coming out in two months (as someone ALWAYS does) - please note that Jump SQ's issues are always a month ahead.

So the next chapter comes out next month as usual.

THanks, I would be this person if not you XD
bad points:
Confusing.
This disgusting thing(Innocence) killing exorcists.. -.-?

Good points:
Art was better this time.
Road and Tyki- BIG +


belatkuro said:
Jaymie said:
I can't believe people are confused about the Cross flashback. Haven't you read, or at least read a summary, of D.Gray-Man Reverse 3? It came out two months ago, and it's a story of how Allen met Mana and General Cross (he first met General Cross BEFORE he turned Mana into an Akuma).
Give us a link or it didn't exist.

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belatkuro said:
Jaymie said:
I can't believe people are confused about the Cross flashback. Haven't you read, or at least read a summary, of D.Gray-Man Reverse 3? It came out two months ago, and it's a story of how Allen met Mana and General Cross (he first met General Cross BEFORE he turned Mana into an Akuma).
Give us a link or it didn't exist.


http://www.dlseek.com/d/d+gray+man+reverse+3+zip.html You'll have to download it.

Do you want the links to 1 and 2 as well?

Feb 3, 2011 10:56 AM

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JadedLover said:
belatkuro said:
Jaymie said:
I can't believe people are confused about the Cross flashback. Haven't you read, or at least read a summary, of D.Gray-Man Reverse 3? It came out two months ago, and it's a story of how Allen met Mana and General Cross (he first met General Cross BEFORE he turned Mana into an Akuma).
Give us a link or it didn't exist.


http://www.dlseek.com/d/d+gray+man+reverse+3+zip.html You'll have to download it.

Do you want the links to 1 and 2 as well?


I would like the links to 1 + 2 plz :)
Feb 3, 2011 12:40 PM

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that chap. was like --> o.o
Feb 3, 2011 3:34 PM

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awesome chap

lol another allen x road moments

...and tyki's hawtness saved the day :D
Feb 3, 2011 7:04 PM

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Holy!!! Another Awesome Chapter!!!

Tyki and Road rescue moment is like one of the most original thing that had happen in a manga story for me because they are considered as enemy for Allen and this series but somehow what they doing now seems like they're the good side while that apocryphos thing which is suppose to be good side(since it protects the "Heart") seems like a bad guy now.:P

The flashback with Cross really confuse me, hope we got this mystery solve this year.

Allen and Timcanpy suffer alot in this chapter.

Most epic moment is ROad hugging Allen and calm down Allen.(such a cute moment( ^_^

Tyki knock down that Cardinal moment is also one of the best moment in this chapter. Guess I'm not liking that Cardinal guy even though ha should be on the good side. :P

Wonder if the apocryphos had another form or not because it really reminds me one of the Aizen hyougku(forgot how to spell) earlier form in Bleach, just that this one is much creepy alot. :S

Even this chapter is pretty short for me, some questions were answered. Like why the guards guarding Cross back in chapter 168-169 were slept and didn't know why they are sleeping and Cross attacker been revealed. Still, more questions pop out as usual. :P
Feb 3, 2011 8:27 PM

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@jadedlover: The links don't work. ):
Is there anywhere else to read it?

Am I the only one who really misses seeing the gang together? It's even more sad when each chapter is released monthly instead of weekly. I miss weekly releases.
Poor Allen. He has to suffer so much all alone even though he didn't even choose these paths himself.I want to give him a big hug too. >.<
Feb 4, 2011 12:04 AM

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WTF just happened in this chapter?
That was some nasty shit that the cardinal was putting into Allen and Link!!
Tyki Mikk (my true love) came to save Allen. Oh, and Road was there too. LOL!!
What was the flashback with Cross about? Does that mean Cross is still alive? Goddess, I hope so!! I love that man, too!
This Apocryphos...Ewwwww!!! I'll be having nightmares about that thing! Yuck!
I'm still dying to find out who has the Heart!!

And this is just yummy!!


heck yes! heck yes that's yummy! mmm.... Tyki..... *om nom nom*
Feb 4, 2011 6:16 AM

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And i want Lavi back !! TT__TT
Feb 4, 2011 7:30 AM

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@jadedlover: The links don't work. ):
Is there anywhere else to read it?


That's where I got mine from. I guess I should have checked to make sure the links were still good b4 I posted them. Just google it and I'm sure you can find some place to read it.

Feb 4, 2011 1:55 PM
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Just like JadedLover said: you have to read Reverse 3 (or at least the summary) in order to understand what Cross said... Otherwise people will end up utterly confused about it. Here you can find the summary http://leafyaki.livejournal.com/107600.html
Scroll down if you want to read the story of the first meeting between Allen and Mana.
Now about the new chapter: I guess my prediction of the cardinal being Cross' 'killer' was true after all :D I wonder what the cardinal meant with that in order to leave Allen behind, he had to become one with him. I'm pretty sure the name 'Allen' has some connection with the 14th (you will understand if you read Reverse 3). But which 'Allen' did he mean? Neah... or Allen?
By the way, when the cardinal said that Allen had grown into a beautiful exorcist... did anyone else also had... weird thoughts? I wonder if he was talking about his physical appearance or his innocence. I hope Link's eyes will return to normal D:
Did you guys also noticed that the cross on the chest of the apocryphos is the same as the cross on the back of Allen's hand?

Edit... I found a cleaned up version of the summary: http://community.livejournal.com/dgrayman/841408.html#cutid2 All by the same person btw.
And for the ones who can read Chinese: here I present you with the Chinese translations: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=990990451 No English translations yet unfortunately for the others :P.
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What a great chapter, it was great seeing Cross again. Now that you guys mention it I will read 'Reverse'.
Also, this chapter made me like AllenxRoad I dont know why...
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I loved this chapter, even if it was a bit confusing... Allen didn't call himself that when Cross and him met? Huh? And what was all that thing about the Cardinal and the stuff coming out of Link's eyes? O.O Hopefully that'll be explained later..

Yay for Allen's and Tyki's sexiness!
Yay for NO Lenalee!
And yay for maybe seeing Lavi soon..?
:D
Feb 5, 2011 7:43 PM

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I love how the Noahs show up of nowhere to save Allen~~However,the enemy is quite tough since it is Innocence...Maybe Allen will team up with Tyki to beat it? ^_^

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I loved this chapter especially the road and allen moment but i was really sad to see tim all tied in the backround anyway i'm really happy that the story is getting even better everything else i'm reading seems to be going really slow
Feb 6, 2011 6:16 AM

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Back to the extremely weird side of D.Gray-man. Was that Noah Tykki Mikk? I'm slightly confused as to what's going on again 8/
Feb 6, 2011 10:26 AM

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The limits of who is the evil side or the good side are getting blurrier and blurrier.
The scene with Cross is interesting though. So that Apocryphos (btw that's a Greek word that literary means "The Secret one") guy was the one who went into his room. That guy also but a gun to his head. The question is if that guy actually managed to kill him.
The second question is what exactly was the meaning of "he didn't call himself Allen". Did Allen started calling himself like that after he got his innocent maybe?
Is there a possibility that the personality invading his body, is Allen and not the 14th? Maybe he was the 14th from the start and the one who invaded the body was the innocence that created Allen.
Feb 7, 2011 12:31 PM

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no D gray man in march , meh :(
Feb 7, 2011 9:09 PM

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no D gray man in march , meh :(


Don't worry, there'll be chapter next month, April issue comes out in March. :P
Feb 8, 2011 4:00 PM

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...It's chapters like this that make me wish DGM was still running anime episodes. I more or less get what's going on (apart from the Cross flashback, wtf), but I think I'd understand it better if I could see it animated.

Overall, it's not a bad chapter, and I want to see what's happening with the 'other side of the war' that was mentioned but not exactly explained.
Feb 10, 2011 11:39 AM

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I didn't understand very well that part of Cross and Allen but apart from that I liked this chaper :3

And oh my, when Road and Tyki appear I said 'OH YES'

Go, Road!
Go, Tyki!
Go, go, go, Allen!
Feb 11, 2011 6:37 PM

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Flashback to Cross - So confusing

But Road hugging Allen was cute :)
Feb 14, 2011 7:21 PM
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awesome!!!!
I love the noahs!!!!!
It's getting so interesting! <3
Feb 16, 2011 6:44 AM

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To be honest, this chapter just makes me even more interested in what is to come in the series. <3 I was kind of confused with the Cross-mini-sode though. I'm also curious to know if that Apochrypha guy somehow sparked Allen's memory, or if he just showed him a vision of sorts... Though with the way the perspective was drawn I'm going to assume it was a memory (well, until we've cleared this whole w-t-f explosion up).

Allen is as adorable and frustrating as ever. <3 And is it just me or is Road looking more and more grown up?
Feb 23, 2011 7:30 PM

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Thing are getting damn confusing ... DX And it seems like everyone else is too! Haha.

So ... WHO THE HECK is that Father ... Cardinal ... whatever the dude is .. ?!
What happened with Cross?
WHAT HApPPENED with Sheryl?
Are those feathers stuff the dude uses?! UGH! Disgusting! DX

& Woohoo! XD
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