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Aug 24, 2014 8:01 AM
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I really hate japanese endings, i liked the idea but just the endings of most animes are just so rubbish. Gah! Glad they don't do hollywood movies or it'll just be a big gaping hole at the end.
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This ending just boosted what my score for the series was going to be previously. I can't in good conscience give this less than an 8/10. Series has problems, but god damn those last 4 episodes. Beautiful. Perfect. Unforgettable. And without a doubt worth the 26 that came before it, for all their strengths and weaknesses. The show was definitely getting better as it went on, but I had no idea its ending would reach as high as it did. Holy shit.
Nov 11, 2014 12:38 PM
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I think this and Gits: SAC were the anime series with the best endings.
Jul 18, 2015 4:19 AM

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Easily in my Top 10.
I love this anime to bits. There is something about an open-ended finale that makes you think that really makes something more intriguing.

I rate it an 8/10. It's below things like Haibane Renmei, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Welcome to the NHK and Neon Evangelion Genesis only because of Kiba. I'm not kidding. If this guy was just a little more likable and relatable, it would have really made this anime better.

Ah well, regardless, I still find myself returning to it every five years or so. There is just so many emotions and layers to it to enjoy.

Jul 29, 2015 3:19 AM
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Oh man, I'm sucker for happy endings. and even if this was all but happy ending, and i didn't see all of them together in paradise at the end, i must say, that's just how it had to end up, they tied all the knots really good, and it's rare to find anime which really makes you think after you finish watching it.
I will give this one 9/10, would be 8/10 without last 4 episodes, even tho they are officially OVA I'll count them as one whole.
Sep 26, 2015 3:42 AM

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For the most part it ended about how I expected... but it was still beautiful through and through. The last 4 episodes had me crying more than I knew I could. Glad I finally got around to watching it all the way through.

Personally I would've preferred if they kept Gravity as the final ending theme... I think it would've made the song itself much more effective because it really was a 'long road to travel', and it was never quite clear what was pulling Kiba along... and he was alone in the end.

I did like that they made the opening an actual scene as well, though. When I think about it, this series reminds me a lot of Battlestar Gallactica somehow, especially in the ending.

Fullmetal89 said:
Way too depressing, honestly it felt like I got trolled by the creator. I mean what exactly was the point of the whole journey if they are going to be in this perpetual cycle. I get the symbolism and all, but I still think it was a pretty shoddy ending. Poor Blue/Hige, hell I felt like the whole cast was needlessly killed off in the last 4 episodes. Oh well, over all it was a good series 9/10; would have given it a 10/10 but the pretentious ending kinda ruined it for me a little bit.
Well... what is the purpose of anything? I think in a way that's the big question this series was trying to present. Sure it wasn't a happy ending... but no true ending really is. It's exactly like life itself... there may or may not be reincarnation, but life itself is just a cycle that keeps repeating itself over and over.

I don't see why that makes it a shoddy ending though, there's really only so much that can be done to conclude any series. I feel like it would have been a much less satisfying ending had everything just gone perfectly and we see them in a wolf's heaven. This ending shows very accurately how when death comes it comes. You can only prolong the inevitable for so long... but everything comes to an end, and just as it began it will start over again.

SimmianPrime said:
Also (this may be an incredibly obvious thing) but is the opening song video actually set in "paradise" aka the reborn world we saw a brief glimpse at the end of the final ep? The setting seems to be the same modern city (with the same rainy weather and intact cars) as that final montage.

Would actually be really cool if we'd been seeing the final ending as the beginning theme song all along.
Well I mean, that's pretty much what happened. It wasn't an exact replica, but I think it was to add something new, but still familiar.

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Was Toboe a girl in the end? Seriously!
No joke, I thought Toboe was a girl too.
Lol, yeah the first time I saw the opening that's what I thought... couldn't help but think about that here too.

Reim_Seranth said:
No Hubb, Cher, Blue and Quent at the end. That's the only thing bothering me.
I was kind of hoping to see them as well... but I think they were just showing the reincarnations of the main 5 characters who were also the only 5 to appear in the opening.
Oct 1, 2015 4:43 PM

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This was one of the shittiest endings of all time 4/10
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Oct 23, 2015 12:12 PM

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I didn't really like this at all.
Mostly because I hated Darcia's characterization and because there was still a few unanswered threads here and there. Like the stone he spit out of his mouth.

Also I didn't feel impacted by the deaths.
Cher got me a little bit since she was the first to go but after all I was just watching to see who would be the next one.

Weirdly enough, I actually preferred the episodes before the OVA a lot more.
Guess I liked their journey more than their bleak destination.
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Nov 1, 2015 6:27 AM

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Saray said:
SimmianPrime said:

Also (this may be an incredibly obvious thing) but is the opening song video actually set in "paradise" aka the reborn world we saw a brief glimpse at the end of the final ep? The setting seems to be the same modern city (with the same rainy weather and intact cars) as that final montage.

Would actually be really cool if we'd been seeing the final ending as the beginning theme song all along.

Glad i finally got someone who actually noticed what i did ! Just like i mentionned above, i thought the exact same thing! ^^

It's really obvious XD. I was waiting for stray to kick in during the city segment. Such and awesome ending. I much prefer this to texhnolyze as an end of the world story. Darcia's eye represents the evil within the world btw. I assume this is a repeating cycle too.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Nov 4, 2015 7:56 PM

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The rest of the series was just average, however, it must be watched to fully expirience the emotions this ending brings.
"When life gives you lemons, make orange juice, then sit back and watch the world wonder how you did it."
Dec 16, 2015 10:24 PM

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I think i just found my favorite anime, the ending hit off all the right notes. Well done.
Jan 3, 2016 8:59 PM

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What a depressing anime, this OVA really need a tragedy tag since dying happened everywhere since the first episode.
Jan 4, 2016 10:59 AM

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After seeing the last episode, there is something that bothers me. Did Darcia managed to reach his "true" paradise or he just died ? His grandfather was a powerful alchemist and he possessed unbelievable technologies, so, theoretically he could create a door to another world. It was interesting to see Kiba and others after all. I guess, they all found that they were searching for.
Jan 25, 2016 9:34 PM

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There's no such thing as paradise. Paradise is just a new Earth, and the cycle continues.
Mar 7, 2016 7:47 AM

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^ You mean 'paradise'.

I was worried, reading the first page and all, I thought I was the only one who didn't like these ovas. These 4 episodes were so lazily written, and was written just to kill off all the characters, and at the same time half-assing their attempt at tear jerk scenes.

Darcia invincible much? No? Okay.

The ending was decent albeit confusing/vague, but even then, with this kind of ending, it makes the series kind of pointless. Someone in the first page said that there can't be peace without chaos, but what about the opposite? When the world was about to be destroyed, even if people don't do crap about it, destruction will be balanced out with recreation? So like, what's the point of protecting if that's the case. "We'll be reborn anyway".
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Mar 13, 2016 4:27 PM

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Well.... 'uck. Excuse me while I go drown myself.





//I knew how it was going to end but still, the death scenes were far too well made and actually made me go all QAQ.

Mar 24, 2016 9:09 AM

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Ok well that's the classic anime ending where you don't get what's going on but it's cool any ways....
May 13, 2016 3:18 AM

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Ok so from my point of view

Kiba sees paradise , lunar flower is there again (official one, an artifical one can be created once again later on by humans) it all started with wolves and only wolves are there for now.. Evil comes later, world os pure now but gets tainted. Kind of a bible reference almost

Anyways i think i preferred the ep 26 ending i guess.. Both arent satisfying to me theyre ok but yeah not more

I rated the ovas 7/10 ending was decent but the rest felt forced and rushed to me,,
Jul 7, 2016 8:57 AM

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So many deaths in these 4 episodes that my head hurts!...
Let me get this straight, Paradise = Rebirth of Earth; not even the wolves knew that.

Well, now it's time to cry...


Sep 29, 2016 8:20 AM

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Just finished re-watching and it's just as good as I remember. Even better.
For me this is the best anime ever. Nothing else I've seen tops this anime...
Reading these discussions and opinions is amazing and really eye-opening. Things make more sense now that I've read plenty of opinions. And I am so happy I ever watched Wolf's rain... the best decision c;

I would comment my opinion as well, but I'm too worn out...
I'm gonna go live my life again now. Yet I'm glad I re-watched it...
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Jan 17, 2017 9:01 PM

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I was so certain from the very first episode on that the first scene with Kiba lying there going on about his drive to find paradise would be part from the last episode and when I realized that the cities depicted in the anime don't match with the modern crow city of the opening I kind of expected them to end up there -
All in all it was a good series
Sad that there were no Blue/Quent & Cher/Hubb at the end but maybe they weren't reincarnated because they were mere humans (or rather no pure wolf in Blue's case)...
Jan 24, 2017 12:23 PM
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kittenz73 said:
One of the most thought provoking anime I have ever watched. It was an amazing ride with an extraordinary ending. I seriously think Wolf's Rain is HIGHLY underrated, and anyone who disagrees with me clearly does not understand the greatness and the deepness of the story. There are no words that can give justice to this masterpiece and I am just so thankful to the producers and the writer for blessing me with the opportunity to experience this lovely work of art.


Yup exactly, but see how cruel this is? Which is why I am now officially Buddhist. But I think these kind of things can happen only because of civilization and modernism. Maybe it's better to be animal than Human
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I would just add that Darcia's eye didn't ruin the paradise, it merely added balance to the world.

As Darcia said life can't exist without death, and happiness cannot exist without sadness. Things cannot exist (or at least there existence is meaningless) unless they are somehow differentiated from the singularity. Concepts, emotions, personalities, etc. all are defined by their contrast to their opposites as well as their contemporaries.

A world without conflict or chaos would be inherently static. Entropy would reign. Nothing would ever happen and nothing would change; perfect paradise would be much like the realm Kiba visited when he was in the grip of the Desert's Bones. It would seem great at first, but slowly everything would blend together and your own existence would become pointless. You would forget everything that made you you and you would lose your ego.

I think a lot of parallels can be drawn to the End of Evangelion. Shinji opted out of a world of singularity. A seemingly perfect world without suffering, misunderstanding and conflict. This was because that conflict and suffering are inherit to the human condition, and perfect peace is only archived in death. That is to say that to exist in a completely static, entropic environment is essentially the same as dying. Life is defined by conflict and struggle.

word up.


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May 17, 2017 5:46 AM

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Damn talk about a depressing ending....so there was no paradise....at least not how they thought it would be.
May 22, 2017 1:30 AM
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I thought the ending was alright. All they sacrificed to stop Darcia and the nobles perverted sense of what paradise was, so the earth could be reincarnated, or fix what was done tl it I'm not really sure either way.
May 25, 2019 10:13 PM

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idk why it hit me hard when Stray played at the ending credits. Is it just me? lol
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:( Man those deaths though. I’m kind of happy the way they died. At least most of them didn’t die alone.

I do hope this time they will find Paradise together, if it isn’t just another rebirth of Earth.
Apr 11, 2020 4:23 AM
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There really is so much more you can get into with this.

For example there's clear symbolism in the character designs. Hige had a collar marked "X" because he was owned/controlled, running from his mysterious past. Ever the hedonist, he could not get into paradise because he lived an unexamined life trying to fill the hole in himself his repressed memories created. In doing so he merely recreated the trauma in his life over and over, hurting others and isolating himself. He attached to others codependently and sought out women and food to fix him and his problems. Throughout the series one of those things is always his coping mechanism. When he finally does become introspective, the painful reality he sees is overwhelming. Instinctively he tries to run away, convincing himself that doing so will help Blue. She does not love him until he owns up to his past and decides to actually give freely, no longer concerned with materialism but relationships. He cannot enter paradise because he has sacrificed too much of himself and no longer knows who he is outside of his connection to other people.

Toboe had the bracelet matching his grandmother's. After accidentally killing her, Toboe is convinced that it was his fault. He naively attempts to live independently but his anxious and dependent nature prevent him from making any real progress. Every time his situation became difficult, he attached to a new person whom he hoped would guide and protect him through life. Because he didn't work on improving himself or examining his flaws, he would eventually damage and be discarded by the people around him; this reinforcing his shame and dependent behavior. He finally decided to actually model after Tsume instead of merely relying on him, experiencing a lot of personal growth. Sadly, he still cannot escape his sense of obligation in protecting others from feeling pain, a private penance. He cannot enter paradise because he has overextended himself, and is still unable to survive without others.

Tsume is much more straightforward-- very cynical and self-serving. He cannot enter paradise because he is too isolated, and is still unable to accept support and love from others.

Freeze City is a typical slum. You can survive through crime or by digging through trash. People there live next to poverty, but choose to ignore it. Kibe is imprisoned here for calling attention to the disparity, and how it is slowly poisoning the lives of the middle-class around them. Hige saves Kibe because he admires Kibe's vision and sees a role to fill.

The next city they come to has lost all hope. The residents there once desired a brighter future but gave up long ago, seeing the personal cost as too high. They choose to survive in virtual slavery, afraid to lose what meager comforts they have. All the while their situation continues to slowly decline. Kibe is beaten for addressing their cowardice and how they sacrificed their own agency, and how these choices hurt those they claim to care about.

Juagara's city is the extreme version of both of these, where the upper class have completely closed themselves off from the outside world. Everything is monitored (for "safety"). Everything is carefully curated and sanitized; there aren't even any smells in case a person might find one (even something like perfume) offensive. People are completely ignorant and complacent, unwilling to question anything around them. In each city, the populous seeks to keep it's relative comfort/happiness by blinding itself to the truth, and relying (to varying degrees) on the narrative fed to them by authority. In each city and at each obstacle, the group must confront an unsettling truth about the world and society and decide if their message of change is worth bringing to fruition, adapting their vision along their journey.

The nobles manufactured paradise is an illusion by its artificial nature. In an extreme example, you could compare it to the failed utopian societies of our world, but easier analogies exist in just cultivating an environment of relative opulence. The Darcia house has wolf eyes because Darcia I foolishly attempted to create utopia, while denying the reality around him. As a result his society became unsustainable and completely collapsed; its remaining residents unable to give up the dream and choosing to quietly pass away. In one sense, the eye can be thought of as a manifestation of original sin, but it can also represent the inability to conjure self-deception-- They can no longer deny that they were wrong. His eye puts all of the humans to sleep because they intellectually avert their gazes and retreat into their own subjective belief systems when confronted with evidence of the world's truth. The other high nobles know intimately of this truth and choose to consciously reject it, so the eye does not work on them.

Paradise is conceptualized in many ways throughout the series: a personal heaven, the achievement of social change based on fundamental truths, and the ultimate society wherein many such changes allow each person their subjective heaven. A key idea being to continuously make changes in pursuit of that ultimate society even though it is inherently unreachable; for after each great change human nature once again corrupts society, and the cycle begins anew. Another key idea being that none of those 3 versions of Paradise are attainable without both extensive examination of both the external world and the internal self. After all you cannot satisfy needs, you don't even know you have.

I'm sure there's a lot more along with plenty other interpretations. I will say that anyone invested in politics at some point of their lives can relate to this show quite intimately. So to can abused/neglected children.

P.S. Cher was horrible, and I laughed when she died.

P.P.S. Quent was a "wolf who became a human" because his trauma and subsequent hatred made him see the injustice in society. Like Darcia III though, he refused to properly examine himself as well, and thus could not fathom any remedy for their own personal tragedies that did not rest on exterminating others.
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Jun 19, 2020 7:31 PM

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What an odd Anime indeed...thank you for the link that explains it. It's basically life recycling and the earth being reborn with Kiba always in a loop searching for Paradise.
Aug 10, 2020 3:13 PM

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Darkdaxter said:


P.S. Cher was horrible, and I laughed when she died.



Nah come on man. She had her baggage to work out just like everyone else in this show. In a perfect world, I would like to think that she wouldn't be so caught up in her work next time and invest more time in her relationship with Hubb (her paradise)
Nov 1, 2020 9:19 AM

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I just feel sad now, the tv episodes ended on an okay part but this OVA final finish kind of depressed me. I liked that the 4 guys were there at the end and I think they are human now (Tsume on a motorbike)? but I feel bad that we didn't see Blue, cher, Hubb and Quent so they are probably gone...


Nov 1, 2020 2:30 PM

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Devastating episode, it was so hard to see the wolves fighting and hurting each other (I'm really bad with animal cruelty in general)

And so the cycle repeats itself, a pure world tainted over time only to repeat itself.
I think the final 4 episodes did a fantastic episode with it's symbolism.

Gotta give props to the English cast aswell, not once did it take away from the beauty of this anime, it's story and characters.

9/10 as a whole for the series.
Nov 24, 2020 12:43 PM

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What a beautiful ending, even if it is a lot to take in.
So when the world begins to end, wolves create a new world (paradise), until that world begins to end, wolves create a new world (paradise)... so on and so on forever in a loop, like a cycle. I guess paradise this time was a similar version of our world as it is currently. When Kiba said "there is no paradise", he meant that the new world would again be imperfect, having pain and suffering.. also Blue didn't make it, it seems.

Wow. I'm so much in shock. This was just a lot. I was crying 80% of the time. It was haunting and beautiful. These four final episodes really just hit different. It is sad how many people don't know that these are the actual last episodes, because it is split up into an OVA they don't know to watch it.

I might actually need a while to take it all in.. what a great ending to a great show..
Jan 8, 2021 6:08 PM

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Reading some of the in-depth analyses in this thread really helped me appreciate this anime more after the credits rolled. I was so frustrated, I had to seek out answers. Now I feel like I've been blind to all these hidden meanings the entire time. My literary analysis brain has dulled since high school.... Since this is the first time I've watched the series, I was only interested in what happened next and surface details. But there's so much more to this. I look forward to future re-watches and seeing it with "new" eyes.

Apr 30, 2021 12:30 PM
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Maybe we all don't really matter in the grand scheme of things, so that's why it's so important to make the most out of life whatever situation you're in.

Aside from that I remember a quote - everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. Whether this death is symbolic or literal, you must let go to allow new things in.

Besides, this anime has a strong decadent vibe. I wasn't expecting it to end on a good note in a first place :P

Some stories are not about character growth and that's okay. Sometimes you just can't outgrow some situations, that's when you become miserable. Like Darcia...

Therefore I think this anime is a great metaphor of life.
Sep 23, 2021 11:22 AM
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CHEZA : The world will close up for a while. So we will be apart for a while. So when the next world opens up... when paradise opens up, we will meet again. This one will be waiting for you. Find this one...

My most favorite moments are the one in the end [14:48 - 21:40] when there's only CHEZA & KIBA left, & after that.

Btw, it has a meaningful ending. I consider it as an happy ending.

10/10. My Most Precious Anime.

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Oct 31, 2021 7:19 AM

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Wow! At last a beautifully crafted anime came to an end. The story was so depressing yet so beautiful!

The music was beautiful throughout the series caputuring the essence of the atmosphere at all sequences. The story and dialogues were well crafted. The characters were so well developed that I felt so painful when they faded away from the story(Especially Toboe's departure was indeed heartbreaking).

A hard yet beautiful journey indeed!

Nov 11, 2021 5:09 PM

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best thing under Bones' belt so far. i liked the show, but didn't expect that the last four episodes being that good
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Apr 10, 2022 11:43 PM

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Eh, it was alright. Slightly better than the 26 episode series. Wasn't depressing at all, because the wolves themselves fell flat as characters as far as I'm concerned, a big struggle to be emotionally attached to any of them, bar some of the humans. This whole cycle of rebirth, can't live without death and suffering is all well and good, but I find myself not caring all too much about these underlying themes, thanks to how average everything else was in the series (excluding animation and sound). 7/10.

Apr 22, 2022 9:34 PM
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Man what an amazing anime, these 4 OVAS give that bittersweet ending to the work, I'm not a fan of sad endings so I'm a great critic for them, so I really liked this ending, it was consistent with the work, usually endings like this invalidate in a way the entire work but this one married well with the whole context and the final minutes give an air of hope to the whole anime.
I think Darkdaxter's analysis is very coherent, I would just add that Cher doesn't give up her work to have her family and that's why she can't enter Paradise, when she finally comes to that conclusion she dies.
8/10 for the entire anime + OVAS

PT-BR
Cara que anime incrível, essas 4 OVAS dão aquele final agridoce pra obra, não sou fã de finais tristes por isso sou um ótimo crítico para eles, sendo assim gostei bastante desse final, foi coerente com a obra, geralmente finais assim invalidam de certa forma a obra inteira mas esse casou bem com todo o contexto e os minutos finais dão um ar de esperança para todo o anime.
Eu acho a análise do Darkdaxter muito coerente, só acrescentaria que a Cher não abre mão do trabalho para ter a sua família e por isso ela não pode entrar no Paraiso, quando ela finalmente chega nessa conclusão ela morre.
8/10 pro anime inteiro + OVAS
May 29, 2023 4:14 PM

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Well it's finally over,
They answered my question about the appearance of the main characters in a modern city in the opening song, LOL it was all in the OP,
Each of the wolves died a heroic death leaving only Darcia/Cheza/Kiba, so in the end they got reincarnated to restart the journey all over again, There's no paradise, it's just the earth get recycled each time they reach their goal of opening paradise, 
It was a good ending, I was hoping to see Blue,Quent, Hubb & Cher, oh well nothing is prefect.
My overall rating is 9/10, the story is really great and ending could've been rushed or worse (cliffhanger).
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