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| Just finished watching. Another anime added on my favorie list, it really entertained me from start to finish. I like the 2nd gig more than the 1st gig because in the 1st gig there are quite a number of fillers that I found boring unlike in the 2nd gig there is almost no fillers. 10/10 |
| So, Motoko sound shocked and said "You are...?" upon seeing the apple with a bite taken out by Kudo? so what's the point if he take a bite even if he don't move his lips? She has seen more shocking things than this. And please don't mention me anything about religious symbolism. At the end of the day, they weren't able to make any nostalgia, that's so sad =(( But the saddest part was the Tachikomas destroying their own satellite that results in them being obliterated.. That was so sudden and unexpected, those cutties were my favorite in the entire series =(( MarkMont said: There is no filler in Ghost in the Shell. Check here:I like the 2nd gig more than the 1st gig because in the 1st gig there are quite a number of fillers that I found boring unlike in the 2nd gig there is almost no fillers. 10/10 https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/ghost-shell-stand-alone-complex |
| A brilliant anime for sure, It was unfortunate that the tachikomas had to sacrifice themselves since i really liked their personalities. I am unsure of whether kuze knew that the major was the same girl he met when he was a kid, I would have loved if they got together but he was assassinated. Overall i really enjoyed this season. It had better standalone episodes than season 1 for sure, however i personally preferred the laughing man incident a tad bit more than the individual eleven, Nevertheless it still is a fantastic season. 9/10 |
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| Who else cried when the Tachikoma were singing as their satellite crashed into that Nuclear missile? Dang it. Worst part is even in anime America wanted to nuke Japan. Again. |
Stormy_77Jul 3, 2022 5:14 PM
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| Just as good if not better than the first season, thanks to a far more focused narrative with pretty much all episodes being related in some form to the individual eleven. However for me personally, I actually kind of miss the more episodic format of season one, with each one packing its own punch. 2nd Gig is far longer and more epic, but if I'm being blunt here, some of the episodes from season one individually hit nearly just as hard as all these 26 episodes of 2nd Gig. Again, it's very arguable that this is in fact a step up from the previous season. But I personally hold Standalone Complex (8/10) one point over 2nd Gig, which I'll be giving a 7/10 to. Now onto watching Solid State Society. |
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| they built up this whole big plot thru the entirety of the anime and it doesn't amount to anything interesting or compelling. i loved that season 1 clearly delineated when an episode was self contained or part of the big arc and i liked both sets of episodes for their own strengths. here they spend so much time in otherwise self contained stories alluding to and giving the impression that something very interesting is behind all the individual eleven events and the justifiable civil unrest smouldering from the neglect towards the refugees and then it just stops. it ends with a bunch of people arbitrarily dying. it makes all the build up feel like a waste of time. |
bizorMar 31, 2023 10:09 AM
| I think I enjoyed the more personal feeling of S1 more than the bigger narrative at play in S2 (and I don't mean getting to know characters pasts), and definitely miss some of the stand alone episodes and cool banter between the team. Still, what an incredible series, just as intricately woven and interesting as the first season. 9/10 |
| I found this episode too melodramatic and cliched for my liking, like most of the late stages of the Individual Eleven plotline. It felt like a betrayal of the philosophy the first movie and first season of SAC established. |
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| That was quite a gory ending to Gouda’s play. As for Kuze, his dialogue on abandoning the refugees without cyberbrain was quite disturbing for the revolutionary “hero” status he gained from the refugees themselves despite being a japanese. I want to believe that he managed to upload his memories/ghost or whatever he wanted to, before the micromachines attack on him so that the public can understand his stand as well. That was still quite the crazy plan though. TopgunUK said: If Japan and the American Empire became a coalition that would put pressure on China and/ or the Ameri-Soviet Union, triggering an arms race between the superpowers and a new Cold War. It was Gouda's intention to have such a Cold War in the first place because Article 9 of Japan's constitution limits the size of its army meaning that while The American Empire and its rivals are building up their arms Japan can prosper and benefit economically in the same way it did during the first Cold War. That’s an interesting take on gouda’s motives. I always thought that he was acting out like that because of his selfish motives fuelled by his inferiority complex and created a civil war like situation to prove his capabilities so that he can defect to american empire where his talents are more recognised. Also as a rewatcher the series still managed to fool me onto thinking that Chief Secretary-Gouda-other ministries like Defence was conspiring together to isolate the refugees and escalate the situation but it seems they were standalone too each with their own interests. I feel like contradicting myself here. Overall I spent a nice time in my rewatch of 1st SAC and 2nd GIG and it cemented the series as my all time favourite anime despite some flaws here and there, mostly being on the animation side. |
Full_anime_FanJun 21, 2023 8:10 AM
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Full_anime_Fan said: I wasn't really talking about his motives there as much as his methodology and how he sold what he was doing to each party (baiting his possibly unwitting allies of convenience in the japanese government with cold war style economic growth and the CIA/American Empire with monopolisation of the Japanese Miracle radiation scrubbers), I think you're absolutely correct about his selfish motives and inferiority complex, he's clearly not actually very invested in what happens to Japan and quite quick to jump ship when it suits.That was quite a gory ending to Gouda’s play. As for Kuze, his dialogue on abandoning the refugees without cyberbrain was quite disturbing for the revolutionary “hero” status he gained from the refugees themselves despite being a japanese. I want to believe that he managed to upload his memories/ghost or whatever he wanted to, before the micromachines attack on him so that the public can understand his stand as well. That was still quite the crazy plan though. TopgunUK said: If Japan and the American Empire became a coalition that would put pressure on China and/ or the Ameri-Soviet Union, triggering an arms race between the superpowers and a new Cold War. It was Gouda's intention to have such a Cold War in the first place because Article 9 of Japan's constitution limits the size of its army meaning that while The American Empire and its rivals are building up their arms Japan can prosper and benefit economically in the same way it did during the first Cold War. That’s an interesting take on gouda’s motives. I always thought that he was acting out like that because of his selfish motives fuelled by his inferiority complex and created a civil war like situation to prove his capabilities so that he can defect to american empire where his talents are more recognised. Also as a rewatcher the series still managed to fool me onto thinking that Chief Secretary-Gouda-other ministries like Defence was conspiring together to isolate the refugees and escalate the situation but it seems they were standalone too each with their own interests. I feel like contradicting myself here. Overall I spent a nice time in my rewatch of 1st SAC and 2nd GIG and it cemented the series as my all time favourite anime despite some flaws here and there, mostly being on the animation side. |
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| A substantial improvement over the first season, primarily because it actually has something resembling a story. Despite this, it felt to me like the creators were still struggling with the concept of getting the audience emotionally invested in the action. A clear example of this is the refugees, who are the primary subject of the story and yet are given no development as an entity at all, barely even appearing onscreen until the ending. For the majority of the show, "the refugees" are little more than one of the script's many abstract concepts, regarded from a cold distance, and so when they are threatened with nuclear annihilation it barely registers emotionally. In contrast, the prime minister is given a huge amount of screentime, despite having basically no function in the story whatsoever - you could cut her from the script entirely and it would only require minimal rewriting to remain coherent. I'm not sure if she was given so much focus because the creators thought she would be automatically sympathetic as a powerless underdog type character, or because it gave them an excuse to indulge in many scenes of dull political pontificating. Either way, I feel she was a misallocation of resources which would have been much more effectively used by having the audience spend time with the refugees and develop some interest in them. This fundamental unwillingness to give the viewer reasons to get invested is what holds SAC as a whole back from residing in the top tier of TV anime for me. |
| The Tachikoma's really came a long way. Their final act whilst disobedient was ultimately the right choice and saved countless lives. It's sad how the relationship between Kuze and Motoko ended, but i'm glad they were able to cross paths and share another moment with each other. Gouda totally got what he deserved in the end with his smooth manipulation finally becoming useless. This was a good follow up to season 1. I liked that we got a little bit of an expansion on some of the less seen section 9 members and we got to see a different side from the cool and collected badass that is Motoko Kusanagi. Glad to have watched it! |
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| What a great way to end it. Loved both seasons of this. |
| Incoherent. At least they finally stopped Gouda after his plan to dip 3 million toons for having more sex than him and moving to America where genocide might be more popular. So pretty cult man is now dead but his ghost with Tachikoma's memory lives on in cyberspace? They're kinda flipflopping on the ghost transfer/copy thing. Matrix Revolutions and Westworld (2016) did it better. 5/10 - Lacking. |
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