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Jan 6, 2012 10:28 AM
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Showing of 10 years ago, with the race.

Also Millia siblings meeting the queen that made the world peaceful. + Dio (or just Dia lookalike) still working as the queen's bodyguard.

The queen was dead protecting Millia's sister during the attack after the race. Showing the truth about the OP.
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Jan 7, 2012 2:16 AM
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Nice episode but why name it episode 11 people will get confused

So I was wondering what is the pendant Fam was holding :D
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Jan 7, 2012 12:57 PM
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Fam wants to find her parents?... Are they alive?
The Grand Race is the sign of peace. But it was hold only once. D:
The end of episode, Fam and the others are being transport to somewhere. So they did get caught...

tsubasalover said:
+ Dio still working as the queen's bodyguard.
Neither of them are Dio, are they? One's Luscinia, one's Alauda.

Great episode
Jan 7, 2012 7:55 PM
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so fam and millia had actually met before. small world.
nice flashback episode.
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tsubasalover said:
+ Dio still working as the queen's bodyguard.
Neither of them are Dio, are they? One's Luscinia, one's Alauda.


One of them looks like Dio to me.

RinM said:
Nice episode but why name it episode 11 people will get confused

Because one of the previous eps. out was recap. ep.
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Jan 9, 2012 6:22 AM
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Yeah Luscinia did look a lot like Dio, but seeing as he's named by other characters in the episode it's obviously not Dio.

Interesting that we finally see a scene with a couple of the sequences from the OP animation. I always thought that was Dio- turns out I was wrong!

This show has really not pulled any punches the last couple of episodes. WHAM moments everywhere. It's stuff like this that is going to make the show even more interesting from here on out; I'm keen to see what is going to happen in the present setting after learning more about some of the backstory.
Jan 9, 2012 11:08 AM
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I am amused, this is quite a good show IMHO.
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Was it hinted that Queen Farahanaz from the Guild? Considering she has two white haired guild body guards, and she was refered to as a "dictator" who was striving to consolidate power for world peace. Also, Dio mentioned "twins" protecting a Maestro in episode 11.

If the queen was the Maestro, is it possible that she was the one in charge before Dio's sister, Delphine, came to power.

That would also partially explain the guild presence on Earth. I thought it was somewhat strange there would be people from the guild but without a leader or government.
Jan 9, 2012 9:46 PM
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The fight between Alauda and Luscinia and the attackers makes me wonder about the extend of their powers. Their weapon seems to be able to extend quite far and fast. First a small dagger, then using it to pull himself up to the vanish, then fighting using it as staff/double ended sword.

Then they can adjust their clothes, to either look like a robe or skintight suit, and while we already saw them not being hit by bullets, they never stood still when doing so, so it could just be their blinding speed, but now..either the ones shooting them where so nervous that they missed, or they can actually deflect bullets or similar.

I wonder if they have even more secrets up the sleeve
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tsubasalover said:
Shih said:

tsubasalover said:
+ Dio still working as the queen's bodyguard.
Neither of them are Dio, are they? One's Luscinia, one's Alauda.


One of them looks like Dio to me.

Lukia is Luscinia. Alauda also called him by this nickname in the beginning of the series.

I love seeing all the characters, major and minor in this episode. From the Glacien pilots as children to Guzel, Sadri's executive officer whose father dies protecting her and Sadri. We also got to see how Vasant came to be Sara's protector. Yashbal Anand also made an appearance here. Sorush and Orang were just childish cadets. My mouth also dropped seeing Kayvan without his mustache and beard.
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if they remove fam and giselle, this would be a much much muchhhh better series
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Liked this episode, it was good to have some of the characters fleshed out a bit, and we finally get to see what sent Lukia around the bend. Alauda just got a lot more interesting too, loved the way he was teasing Lukia.

The number of bullets somehow failing to hit Farahnaz was getting a bit silly though. If she was the primary target, she shouldn't have had to step in front of someone else to get shot, the shooter should have been aiming for her from the start. Who's going to shoot at a little girl with the hated "dictator" standing a few feet away?
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Anzekay said:
This show has really not pulled any punches the last couple of episodes. WHAM moments everywhere. It's stuff like this that is going to make the show even more interesting from here on out; I'm keen to see what is going to happen in the present setting after learning more about some of the backstory.


This, they've been on an awesome track of non-stop big moments and cliffhangers/arrivals (characters, a whole new power in Glacies, and a lot more Guild mysteries etc.)/hooked endings leaving us wondering what's coming next (outside of the recap) and continuous momentum, it's been incredibly addictive.

antisense said:
Liked this episode, it was good to have some of the characters fleshed out a bit, and we finally get to see what sent Lukia around the bend. Alauda just got a lot more interesting too, loved the way he was teasing Lukia.


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tsubasalover said:
Shih said:

tsubasalover said:
+ Dio still working as the queen's bodyguard.
Neither of them are Dio, are they? One's Luscinia, one's Alauda.


One of them looks like Dio to me.

Lukia is Luscinia. Alauda also called him by this nickname in the beginning of the series.

I love seeing all the characters, major and minor in this episode. From the Glacien pilots as children to Guzel, Sadri's executive officer whose father dies protecting her and Sadri. We also got to see how Vasant came to be Sara's protector. Yashbal Anand also made an appearance here. Sorush and Orang were just childish cadets. My mouth also dropped seeing Kayvan without his mustache and beard.


Yeah I loved seeing all of these.

Another bit was how Sadri's leg got shot adding to why he's got the cane now. Also it ends on a sad note that ofcourse cut short their victory but clarification of when Atamora (and Kaiser) won that Grand Race trophy.
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antisense said:
If she was the primary target, she shouldn't have had to step in front of someone else to get shot, the shooter should have been aiming for her from the start. Who's going to shoot at a little girl with the hated "dictator" standing a few feet away?
the little girl might be hit or they might shoot the little girl as well.
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antisense said:
If she was the primary target, she shouldn't have had to step in front of someone else to get shot, the shooter should have been aiming for her from the start. Who's going to shoot at a little girl with the hated "dictator" standing a few feet away?
the little girl might be hit or they might shoot the little girl as well.
Oh, she might get caught in the crossfire or something, sure, but the guy with the gun was clearly aiming at her, while Farahnaz, their main target, was standing there unharmed. It doesn't make sense. I know I'm being picky, but little bits of bad writing like this annoy me.
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I dunno, I thought the assassination sequence as a whole was clumsily directed and written. There was no sense of urgency, the use of animation from the opening was badly done, and the pacing felt awkward.
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I dunno, I thought the assassination sequence as a whole was clumsily directed and written. There was no sense of urgency, the use of animation from the opening was badly done, and the pacing felt awkward.


Agree, the scene was a bit silly. Otherwise it was a nice episode, explaining more about the setting and characters.

And Fam was just like Fam. She has had remarkably little mental growth between then and now it seems. A five year old acting like that is sweet and funny, but being the same ten years later? No wonder she is so terribly irritating.
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tsubasalover said:
Shih said:

tsubasalover said:
+ Dio still working as the queen's bodyguard.
Neither of them are Dio, are they? One's Luscinia, one's Alauda.


One of them looks like Dio to me.


They are remnant of the 'guild' which was a dictatural faction in the world of the first Last Exile before the main cast of s1 actually use Exile to reach earth.
Every guild member is very powerfull and are easely recogniseable by their white hair color and pale skin. Their clothes are also pretty much similar.

Dio is the prince and ruler of the guild member as his sister which was the main antagonist of s1 bite the dust. Most of the guild member are still on the planet where the s1 happen so I guess that his title means nothing on earth.
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Well, I think this episode was absolutely beautiful :D I really enjoyed watching this part of the story as well as the child versions of Millia, Giselle and Fam, which were lovely. And I think we may see one more episode explaining past events.
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Mandatory and sloppy expository flashback episode that tries to cram too much in with too little time, along with overly-pervasive eye-rolling sentimentality. It would have been a lot more believable to me if they hadn't tried shoving in literally every named-character they could think of into an event that happened nine years ago, however momentous it may have been, and actually gave the empress a much greater security detail; never mind having two super-ninjas, it won't do much good against a multi-direcitonal, simultaneous assault.

Probably the weakest episode in the series for me, and has put a sour taste into my mouth - aside from the lazy storytelling, the animation and art seemed to be equally lazy and inconsistent this week. Here's to hoping it'll pick back up in the weeks ahead.
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antisense said:
Oh, she might get caught in the crossfire or something, sure, but the guy with the gun was clearly aiming at her, while Farahnaz, their main target, was standing there unharmed. It doesn't make sense. I know I'm being picky, but little bits of bad writing like this annoy me.

isn't it obvious that liliana was standing in front of her? haters gonna hate. trying to make a big issue out of something only makes you sound like a frustrated critic. LOL
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antisense said:
Oh, she might get caught in the crossfire or something, sure, but the guy with the gun was clearly aiming at her, while Farahnaz, their main target, was standing there unharmed. It doesn't make sense. I know I'm being picky, but little bits of bad writing like this annoy me.

isn't it obvious that liliana was standing in front of her? haters gonna hate. trying to make a big issue out of something only makes you sound like a frustrated critic. LOL
Calm down, no need for the lame insults. Crappy writing in an otherwise good show does indeed frustrate me, not sure what's supposed to be wrong with that. Maybe you'd prefer mindless fangirling?

Anyway, looking at it again, I guess that's what was intended, but that's not much better. Liliana is so much shorter than Farahnaz, they would have had to be shooting at her knees to hit the girl. And none of that changes the fact that Farahnaz was standing there for far too long without getting hit, and as Dangerr pointed out, seemed to have amazingly lax security for someone who would be an obvious assassination target.
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kinda knew the grand race would not end well

like the way this eps shows how the characters become who they are today due to a past incident
Jan 12, 2012 9:51 AM

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Minus the Anatoray characters, everyone was there ten years ago... and Luscinia was Lukia back then, very interesting back story!
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antisense said:
Calm down, no need for the lame insults. Crappy writing in an otherwise good show does indeed frustrate me, not sure what's supposed to be wrong with that. Maybe you'd prefer mindless fangirling?

Anyway, looking at it again, I guess that's what was intended, but that's not much better. Liliana is so much shorter than Farahnaz, they would have had to be shooting at her knees to hit the girl. And none of that changes the fact that Farahnaz was standing there for far too long without getting hit, and as Dangerr pointed out, seemed to have amazingly lax security for someone who would be an obvious assassination target.
oops! is that an insult for you? don't take internet forums so seriously dude! LOL

you're easily frustrated by such small details? go punish yourself more by watching it! ROFL
anyway, terrorists are capable of doing what you think is a "crappy writing". if they want to shoot an innocent little girl for being with their target, they don't need a reason to do so. that's why they're called "terrorists" got it?

oh, i prefer mindless "fangirling"? hell yeah! i prefer to be a "fangirl" who enjoys watching the show rather than a frustrated critic who gives himself problems over trivial matters. ROFLMAO
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Wow! If i understood correct all those empire dudes really changed after that empress died.
She was trying to get peace by making agreements and staff while now they simply try to create piece by conquering everything and killing all those that came with the exile ship.

Smoker-sama said:
antisense said:
Calm down, no need for the lame insults. Crappy writing in an otherwise good show does indeed frustrate me, not sure what's supposed to be wrong with that. Maybe you'd prefer mindless fangirling?

Anyway, looking at it again, I guess that's what was intended, but that's not much better. Liliana is so much shorter than Farahnaz, they would have had to be shooting at her knees to hit the girl. And none of that changes the fact that Farahnaz was standing there for far too long without getting hit, and as Dangerr pointed out, seemed to have amazingly lax security for someone who would be an obvious assassination target.
oops! is that an insult for you? don't take internet forums so seriously dude! LOL

you're easily frustrated by such small details? go punish yourself more by watching it! ROFL
anyway, terrorists are capable of doing what you think is a "crappy writing". if they want to shoot an innocent little girl for being with their target, they don't need a reason to do so. that's why they're called "terrorists" got it?

oh, i prefer mindless "fangirling"? hell yeah! i prefer to be a "fangirl" who enjoys watching the show rather than a frustrated critic who gives himself problems over trivial matters. ROFLMAO


can you stop being an ass. The guy never said he hated the show or anything he just notice an inconsistency that bothered him and thought mentioning it. The section is called anime discussion you know. He has the right to discuss a problem he found.
If only praises where posted there wouldn't be discussion at all.
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can you stop being an ass. The guy never said he hated the show or anything he just notice an inconsistency that bothered him and thought mentioning it. The section is called anime discussion you know. He has the right to discuss a problem he found.
If only praises where posted there wouldn't be discussion at all.

have you even considered reading the explanation? okay i'll post it again for your sake.
terrorists are capable of doing what you think is a "crappy writing". if they want to shoot an innocent little girl for being with their target, they don't need a reason to do so. that's why they're called "terrorists" got it?
i answered the "inconsistency" part that you're babbling about. if you still can't understand it then you're the ass around here considering the answer is very natural.
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I love this series, but I think that the assassination didn't make any sense.

They waited for the queen to be out in the open, in front of a huge crowd with clear line of sight from any angle, and they come up close to try to take her out with a gun and a bayonet?

Just look at the attempt, the assassins decided to come up close to her just to be cut down, then they used the ships to fire from above but only after the initial wave failed and then again up close. This was clearly a suicidal approach which came close to failing.

Because the queen was out in the open, they should've simply use sniped her out from within the crowd, preferably from different angles and thus the bodyguards would not have had a chance of anything. This would also add to the drama that no one would've been sure who commited the coup and thus would justify the federation's obsession with submitting all dissidents into the "rule of peace".

But then again, we do not know if they had sniper technology in this world, I can't remember.

Regardless, I love this story and the whole steam punk ambiance going on in here.

Its been fun.
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I dunno, I thought the assassination sequence as a whole was clumsily directed and written. There was no sense of urgency, the use of animation from the opening was badly done, and the pacing felt awkward.


Agree, the scene was a bit silly. Otherwise it was a nice episode, explaining more about the setting and characters.




Yeah. Something just felt "off" during that scene. Everyone standing around and refusing to run the fuck away didn't help matters.

Despite that, I dunno, I liked this episode for the most part. It seemed to put everything into perspective.
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Quite a lovely backstory episode, quite enjoyed it actually! Let's see what's next!
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Nice episode but why name it episode 11 people will get confused

So I was wondering what is the pendant Fam was holding :D


because it is episode 11
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Hmm so instead of escorting the queen to safety, her bodyguards chose to leave her side to deal with the rebels without knowing how many rebels there are or where they're coming from. I don't get it.
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Nice glimpse into the past, although out of the blue at that. It would appear the last Empress was truly as great as people say she was. Very interesting seeing Luscinia as her bodyguard. He seems to have respected her though possessed his own opinions on how the world should be run.

Rather a sloppily done assassination scene. I could have done without the reused animation from the opening. I wish this show had the subtlety of the first season; everything was understated but everyone reacted so believably. One thing I will praise is Luscinia’s freakout and Kayvan’s suicide attempt.

Side notes
- Fam’s pigtails were too cute
- Luscinia was always a heartthrob apparently. Oh Liliana.
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The federation must have one of the worst intelligence and security apparatus I have ever seen. Not only were dozens of men given a shot at being the one to kill her, even after the first one failed not a single person from the whole damn federation tried to protect her apart from her two bodyguards; who also showed a lack of urgency.
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Fam's patch looked familiar. My memory >_<

Also, Milia gave coffee sweets to Fam. And we know that Milia dislikes coffee, so she gave away what was not needed/desired xD

One shot from the war flashback kinda made me think that it was mirroring WWII.

I wonder whether the people who tried to kill Farahnaz were Sky Pirates? The first one seemingly knew Kaiser. Or was just shocked after stabbing him. I am not sure whether the one who first exclaimed his name was the assassin or Atamora.

It was also strange to see only Ades and Turan representatives on the award ceremony. Wasn't it supposed to be a peace celebration for more people? Or were they just annexed by Ades, hmm. The "Russians" were there too, only in the audience though.

P.S. What was the point of Fam, Milia and Giselle going out during the battle? Get captured? xD
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Another moronic episode, can this show be a bit more racist? I mean everyone with some importance doesn't have pen and ink sacks. Even the person giving out the flowers is female! It's like were are the hombres! Were are the ballz and sausages?! YESSSSS QUEEN!!! YOU GO GIRL! GIRLZ POWER!!!!!

That "assassination" attempt was pathetic beyond words, everything about it smelled badly, the animation, everything was way off.

Is Triple Fam a retard? Because at 15 y/o you don't act like you did when you were 5, unless you are our "beloved" Triple Fam.

Little Triple Fam and Giselle were already annoying little cvnts back then .... No surprise there. Once a cvnt, always a cvnt! And a useless one at that.

Why did they had to put the hom* vibes between the two guild dudes? A clearly unnecessary early pandering to a certain "crowd"
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