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Sep 24, 2010 6:46 AM
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Couldn't suppose that Shinn will really do it. I'm sure that they're not dead really :)
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i will forever hate shinn for the rest of my life. seriously.
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Feb 7, 2012 5:47 PM
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everybody is manipulated you too
hating shinny kid is uncool:p
Mar 21, 2012 8:39 AM
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anybody thinks that luna is a bitch??? she turned to shinn immediately after she thinks that athrun betray plant without even trying to find out what really happens....
May 11, 2013 5:33 PM
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Seriously, Shinn is like a little puppet under Rey and the Chairman now.
Jan 24, 2014 11:00 PM
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Stark700 said:
Seriously, Shinn is like a little puppet under Rey and the Chairman now.

Pretty much...but there was some internal struggle there, he was trying to understand what Athrun was saying, but motherfucking Rey kept dismissing what Athrun was saying as wrong and even saying that Athrun was going mad. Obviously Shinn would listen more to Rey than Athrun for many reasons, but damn, he really went and had the intention to kill Meyrin too. This anime is so frustrating to watch =_= I think I've been angry at least once or twice every episode for awhile now. I probably need to stop taking this so seriously otherwise this is not good for my health.
Feb 14, 2014 8:45 PM
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Durandal's charisma is impressive. He's managed to turn the entire world over to his side. Even the Naturals who previously hated coordinators are now working with them to defeat Logos.

Shinn was easily captivated by Durandal's words. If you think about the name of his previous machine, the impulse, it is no surprise.

They add a lot of unnecessary drama sometimes. Athrun is the second protagonist (or maybe even the main protagonist) of the show. It's obvious he isn't going to die and since Meyrin is with him she'll be safe too.

It's quite ironic that Shinn agonizes over his sister's death when he just killed Lunamaria's sister.
Aug 13, 2014 6:50 PM
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There's no question at all that Athrun is the more important protagonist over Kira in Seed Destiny. In the original Seed, yes Kira was #1 and Athrun was #2. This series is all about Athrun.

As soon as Athrun was shot down, I went, "Well of course he's not dead. Important people always survive." And yet they don't feel the need to look for the bodies? All you've done is shoot down a lousy Goof, Shinn. Mission not accomplished, Rey. Have some common sense.

I will say I'm actually disappointed that Shinn is feeling regret already. Instead of being the world's worst protagonist, they should've just let Shinn go all the way villain. He is incredibly unlikable, so why stop that now? Letting Shinn be a fuming angry bloodthirsty Zaft tool for the rest of the series would've been great. I feel like they dropped the ball.
Sep 21, 2014 12:32 AM
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Yeah I don't think there is any redeeming Shinn at this point. He has to be stopped along with the rest of them. We need new suits!
May 28, 2015 11:20 AM

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So let me get this straight. Stellar destroyed whole Berlin and Shinn wanted to save her and hates Kira for killing her. The same Shinn shot down his friend Meyrin without giving a damn. Quality writing!

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(rewatching)

I'll give Athrun credit for making sure Shinn stabbed through the side of the gundam where Meyrin was not.

Let's keep in mind Shinn and Rey have been buddies since the academy. (has Shinn been manipulated for that long, maybe) There isn't much reason for him to listen to a supposed hero-of-the-last-war. Gil was quick to use Rey's judgement as an excuse to get rid of Athrun, not caring one bit that Meyrin was there (no use for her).
Aug 19, 2015 3:46 PM
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Man, Shinn needs to learn to think for himself.
If I was Athrun I would have told everyone that was not the real Lacus before I left.
Apr 26, 2016 8:21 PM

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Shinn so easily manipulated I couldn't help but laugh when he entered seed mode and attacked ATHRUN, alright puppet Shinn.
Aug 24, 2017 5:33 PM

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Shinn is so fucking irredeemable at this point it's not even funny.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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i fucking hate this show so much, that was, the perfect opportunity to provide shinn with some much needed character development but instead the show made him just an irredeemable spazz.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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"I'm going to cry in the arms of the guy who killed my sister!"

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anybody thinks that luna is a bitch??? she turned to shinn immediately after she thinks that athrun betray plant without even trying to find out what really happens....


Indeed. Athrun fought back to back with the Minerva pilots, saved them countless times, gave them advice, came off as experienced and intelligent and calm. His apparent "defection" definitely should have got her thinking. The real sinker is that her sister apparently WILLINGLY went with Athrun, which should have set alarm bells going off in Lunamaria's head that things are not what they seem.

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There's no question at all that Athrun is the more important protagonist over Kira in Seed Destiny. In the original Seed, yes Kira was #1 and Athrun was #2. This series is all about Athrun.


I'd argue that Athrun was more important even in season 1. Kira got more screentime, but Athrun had more importance in the narrative due to high status in ZAFT and him being able to meet all of the key players (Rau, Lacus, Chairman Zala, etc), whereas Kira only really interacted with the Archangel crew (and with Rau for five minutes near the end). Athrun's importance over Kira is just more noticeable in Destiny because we're not following the episodic adventures of the Archangel, while Athrun continues to have a front row seat to all of the important dealings and gets to interact with all of the big players.

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Let's keep in mind Shinn and Rey have been buddies since the academy. (has Shinn been manipulated for that long, maybe) There isn't much reason for him to listen to a supposed hero-of-the-last-war.


Have you talked to war vets? They all say the same thing: that they viewed their fellow soldiers as brothers, and shittalking them - let alone betraying them or trying to kill them - is unthinkable. Yes Shinn has known Rey longer, but they also had those critical bonding experiences with Athrun of fighting side by side, covering each other's back. Shinn and Rey should be begging to find out what's going on with Athrun. The fact that they aren't says more about how scummy Shinn and Rey are that they went through all of that with Athrun and can't be bothered to care about their comrade.

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If I was Athrun I would have told everyone that was not the real Lacus before I left.


That would have gotten Meer humiliated and killed for no reason. He's not able to publicly broadcast that message to the civilians in the PLANTs. His radio message is only going to reach the ZAFT forces within the vicinity and it would be suppressed and ignored. At least by keeping quiet, there is hope that Meer might decide to escape alive, or use her position to tell the truth to the public when the opportunity arises.
Dec 29, 2023 2:11 AM

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I don't know if i'm more annoyed by the existence of shinn and Rey, the fact that now Shinn is irredeemable for me, or the fact that Lunamaria is searching comfort from the hands who supposedly killed her sister.
Durandal as always is extremely charismatic, but i think his charisma will be his demise.
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