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Sep 15, 2010 8:54 AM
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In the real world Shinn was definitely be murdered 'cause noone looks at the achievements of the whole army, only one man's doings are counted.
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Nov 16, 2012 5:06 AM
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Well done, Shinn, well done. You saved life of one innocent psychopath, fuck up all the soldiers and peaceful citizens. You never knew anyone of them personally, so who cares?
But new mobile armour is just charming. That's how Psycho Gundam should have looked like
Oh and I expected that Neo would keep his promise, lol. He's even worse badass than I thought.
And about the act of grace... Well, whatever, it's not like I would expect them to be executed anyway
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May 10, 2013 10:12 PM
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Tbh, Shinn shouldn't of just handed Stella like that to Neo although it's understandable for her to prevent death. I don't trust Neo one damn bit.
Jul 18, 2013 5:41 PM
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OMG!! Stella is a demon!

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Aug 21, 2013 4:09 AM
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totally normal episode no events whatsoever
Jan 24, 2014 4:56 PM
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Serhiyko said:
Well done, Shinn, well done. You saved life of one innocent psychopath, fuck up all the soldiers and peaceful citizens. You never knew anyone of them personally, so who cares?

^This. Hypocrisy at its finest. Shinn thinks that it's terrible that Talia and the others don't care if Stella died or not, well neither do you because you killed so many people. The people you killed were humans too. Shinn should stop preaching when he isn't even listening to himself.

On a brighter note, at least Cagalli seems to have regained her old self somehwhat.
Feb 14, 2014 6:19 PM
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It's hard to believe that Shinn was not punished for what he did. His actions kind of remind me of what Kira did with Lacus by handing her back over to Athrun. Of course there are a lot of differences as well.

The first being Stella is a combat warrior designed to slaughter and kill people. The second is that Neo's personality is unknown. He promised he would keep Stella away from the battlefield but really what are the chances of that happeneing?

Looking at it from the Atlantic Federations perspective, they've invested a lot of money and resources into Stella and I can't imagine them just letting her go. Stop being so naive Shinn.
Aug 13, 2014 3:20 PM
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As if the that that Stella is a rehash of Four Murasame isn't obvious enough, now they've given her a new mobile armor that looks almost exactly like the Psycho Gundam (which Four piloted).

Extended = Cyber-newtype

It's all the same stuff.
Sep 18, 2014 11:40 PM
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Great now they gave Stella a Psycho Gundam...I think she's dead next episode.

And also Shinn, oh boy his ego just went from 10 to 1000 after shitting on Athrun like that. I really don't think he's going to change which is bad news.
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(rewatching)

Of course Shinn got let off. He's the MC and a hotshot mecha pilot!

Is it obvious this is a reboot of Double Zeta yet? (this version is way better though)
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Is it obvious this is a reboot of Double Zeta yet? (this version is way better though)

Eh can't agree with that. ZZ Gundam didn't make me slam my face on the desk every episode. It was just too cheesy that hurt it a lot if you watched it right after Zeta. Destiny completely butchered everything good about Seed and has Shinn, one of the worst anime characters ever produced. Yes I went there, even Tatsuya (Mahouka) and Ange (Cross Ange) are better characters than Shinn.


Serhiyko said:
Well done, Shinn, well done. You saved life of one innocent psychopath, fuck up all the soldiers and peaceful citizens. You never knew anyone of them personally, so who cares?

It's funny (and sad) how that actually fits his terrible character. Leaving Stellar to die would have been out of character for him, that's how bad he is. Oh well, can't wait to see him get even angrier after his mates start fighting Stellar.

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I was really hoping Stella would be allowed to go somewhere and not fight, however unlikely it seemed.
Now she's got pretty much a psycho Gundam and bout to fuck everyone up. Lol
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What a massacre...nice going Shinn, apparently his first crush or something is more important than thousand of innocent people (children included).

The next episode is named "Stella" huh, welp she dead.
Jun 8, 2016 4:35 AM

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I think Shinn is going to kill Stella and then have a mental breakdown.
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Oct 25, 2016 8:03 AM
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I think I'm having less and less sympathy for Shinn. Who cares about all those people Stella killed, my would-be girlfriend/younger sister's substitute/whatever is more important than them! In actual military Shinn would probably be shot for insubordination and seriously endangering his own crew (not to mention all civilians who happen to live nearby). I hope you're proud of yourself...
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Military conduct is different from in different armies and in different times, most notably in regards to the level of favoritism and corruption.
For one thing Shinn at that moment is one of the most accomplished gundam pilots and ZAFT is in the middle of a war, reducing Minervas and ZAFT's combat strength by removing him from active duty would only place other crew in more danger.
And for another thing, while this might not be crystal clear at this point in the story, Durandal in trying to make Shinn into his mindless pet dog, showing Shinn lenience is simply one more step along that path.

As for not having sympathy for Shinn, that is a quite sensible conclusion, however, the cause for it is rather opposite to what you say, when you eat dinner do you think about the dozen people in the poorer regions of the world who died of starvation on that day, when you take a shower do you think of the dozen who died of diarrhea because they don't have access to clean water?
Having been brainwashed and mentally broken, Stella is essentially a victim. Also after the intimate time they spent together she is also Shinn's first real love interest. So trying to judge him for not being a cold blooded and ruthless soldier is quite a bit unfair.
What does make him unsympathized in comparison to Athrun and Kira is .. um sorry i can't find a way to write it without making it a spoiler.
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What does make him unsympathized in comparison to Athrun and Kira is .. um sorry i can't find a way to write it without making it a spoiler.

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Good point but i guess this was just a lame excuse. After giving the issue quite a bit more thought the only real moral justification that isn't highly pretentious for Athrun and Kira being more likable more likeable is
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Oh, now the Psycho Gundam is back. I sincerely hope Shinn kills Stellar and suffers endlessly after realizing who piloted the Destroy. I'm just fucking done with their shit (both of them) at this point.
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Even I don't know what would be the right move if I wanted to save Stella. Zaft don't got the doctors/technology, but Neo's side does, but you can't trust Neo at all either (especially since he was the one responsible). Quite sad actually, this kind of scenario.

The only way to save Stella is to defeat Neo and take their doctors/technology, but in short notice, to accomplish would take a miracle T_T
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We all know Shinn is a prick, but my gosh is Rey also starting to get on my nerves continually standing up for Shinn and telling Athrun off. Athrun and Shinn are in no way morally equivalent for anyone to say "both of you are wrong, walk away".




Why is this still being allowed to go on? Shittalking your comrades causes division and lowers morale. Even Starfleet officers know not to do this!

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Of course Shinn got let off. He's the MC and a hotshot mecha pilot!


Had Bright been the captain of this ship, he would have smacked Shinn multiple times and permanently consigned him to the brig until he could find a replacement pilot for the Impulse (that's pretty much what Bright did in the 0079).

Is it obvious this is a reboot of Double Zeta yet? (this version is way better though)


I personally like ZZ, but for different reasons. I liked the lighthearted tone and the fun characters. Judau also had his act together and didn't need to get smacked or thrown into the brig.

I like Destiny for the fights and the music, but so far it's been crapping on my favorite characters.

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Eh can't agree with that. ZZ Gundam didn't make me slam my face on the desk every episode. It was just too cheesy that hurt it a lot if you watched it right after Zeta. Destiny completely butchered everything good about Seed and has Shinn, one of the worst anime characters ever produced. Yes I went there, even Tatsuya (Mahouka) and Ange (Cross Ange) are better characters than Shinn.


I liked Shinn early on, when he was starting to warm up to Athrun and get his act together. But then he started backsliding into become prick supreme.
Oct 28, 2021 10:56 PM
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Shinn, you fucking retard! You returned a crazy chick (Stella) to Neo and believed his lies! Now she's piloting a mobile suit and she destroyed 3 entires cities! Was the pussy worth it, boy?

Putting that aside, of course they did Mu dirty. Like Graham, they can't let a character be their own person without turning them into a char clone. At least Graham quit his char clone phase and went back to being awesome, hopefully he follows suit.
Feb 8, 2022 2:40 AM

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This is all a pretty bad rehash of things we already saw in Z and ZZ, but what I fear the most is how they will (because you know they will) justify Mu's horrible actions with some 5D chess big brain plan that forced him to become a mass murderer for our sake.
Jul 20, 2022 3:15 AM

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Throwback to psycho gundams, and of course it's Stella that gets thrown back into the fight

Dec 27, 2023 6:44 AM

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I guess piloting the Psycho Gundam means dying very quickly.
Shinn is unbearable, at least cagalli is better than the start of the season.
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I knew it! Shinn made a horrible mistake, now Stella is killing way more people than he probably did a few episodes ago. Does he really think that Neo is a man that can be easily trusted?

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