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Dec 21, 7:50 PM
#151
Reply to ricejelly
This is genuinely my favorite anime of all time, so I came for the discussion but you seem to solely be interested in arguing. You should try to find a way to get the attention you’re looking for that’s more constructive.
@ricejelly and you should try to watch good anime instead of saying this is your favorite cause "I'm so Lain" |
Dec 21, 7:56 PM
#152
Reply to cursed_viper
The show takes it's time set itself up.
First few episodes of this show were very confusing for me, and I didn't understand what is happening till like episode 5 and 6.
But then you start to understand the deeper meaning behind the things it is showing, and how scary that actually is.
I can understand why the initial part where you don't actually understand what was happening can be boring but after you realise the meaning of the show, I don't know how can that part be anything less than mind-blowing.
The show is very much ahed of it's time, and it is becoming more and more relevant with each passing day with everything that is going on with AI.
It's that kind of a show which makes you think.
Maybe that's why you found it boaring as you never understood the bigger picture of story and the massage it was giving.
And I don't actually expect someone who gives Tokyo ghoul √A and platinum end 10 out of 10 to understand something as great as Serial experiment lain
So why did you found it boaring?
cause you are just stupid and didn't understand the story
First few episodes of this show were very confusing for me, and I didn't understand what is happening till like episode 5 and 6.
But then you start to understand the deeper meaning behind the things it is showing, and how scary that actually is.
I can understand why the initial part where you don't actually understand what was happening can be boring but after you realise the meaning of the show, I don't know how can that part be anything less than mind-blowing.
The show is very much ahed of it's time, and it is becoming more and more relevant with each passing day with everything that is going on with AI.
It's that kind of a show which makes you think.
Maybe that's why you found it boaring as you never understood the bigger picture of story and the massage it was giving.
And I don't actually expect someone who gives Tokyo ghoul √A and platinum end 10 out of 10 to understand something as great as Serial experiment lain
So why did you found it boaring?
cause you are just stupid and didn't understand the story
@cursed_viper I understand the entire plot and knew exactly where it was going. The plot wasn't confusing it was just bad. All the characters were boring soulless and useless with zero substance to them, lain as well is a boring and uninteresting mc, we know basically nothing before the wired except she was anxious and an introvert. The world was boring and had no build up, every episode just skipped ahead to see Lain go deeper and deeper into madness making it to where you didn't feel a connection to it since it was so rushed. Not to mention the entire premise was bad. If the only thing people can say about an anime to make it sound good is "the atmosphere" "the vibe" "the uniqueness" and etc, it's obvious not good. You are obviously just trying to say you like it to seem like you "understood" The bigger picture when in the end the bigger picture is just how lazy, boring and empty the world, characters and plot is. (Name 1 anime besides platinum end where the entire world and every character dies. Oh wait you can't, it's a 10 from boldness alone) |
Dec 21, 8:00 PM
#153
Reply to Jupiterjazzjune
JackOfDeath said:
@ririsdollyeyes I like the strange and unusual? I like philosophy and deep thinking as well? The Anime is literally just bad
@ririsdollyeyes I like the strange and unusual? I like philosophy and deep thinking as well? The Anime is literally just bad
after looking at your reviews I don't think that's true. this post just comes off as some bored teenager trynna bait people into arguing.
@Jupiterjazzjune not only is this not bait but I'm also not a teenager 💀🙏 you just had to try to personally insult me cause you could come up with a bullshit reason why this anime is good. |
Dec 21, 8:03 PM
#154
Reply to BigBoyAdvance
JackOfDeath said:
So why is it so highly rated
So why is it so highly rated
"I cannot comprehend it, it blows my mind so it must be a work of genius" - while in reality it is a nonsensical collection of meaningless but visually stimulating scenes.
"It is trying to be a deep anime, so if I rate it low or say it's boring people will mark me as an idiot".
Shows like these are made for the average dimwits who cannot distinguish between something that's profound and something that's pretentious.
Read my review of Lain.
@BigBoyAdvance just checked it out and you kinda explained it perfectly. The Anime is so bad that all these teenagers try to make themselves believe it's good to seem "different" or "unique" when in reality it's just a bland anime with no substance |
Dec 21, 8:04 PM
#155
Reply to smashsalmon
JackOfDeath said:
@ririsdollyeyes I like the strange and unusual? I like philosophy and deep thinking as well? The Anime is literally just bad
@ririsdollyeyes I like the strange and unusual? I like philosophy and deep thinking as well? The Anime is literally just bad
i watched the 1st ep like 2 years back, thought it was ass. watched it again this year, it was incredible. tastes are different and sometimes a shw has yet to fit you
@smashsalmon and it never will cause I'm not delusional enough to brainwash myself into thinking it's good |
Dec 21, 8:05 PM
#156
Reply to smashsalmon
JackOfDeath said:
@WestOnAndrewAve gotcha so it's entire fan base is a bunch of teenagers that didn't exist in the 90s?
@WestOnAndrewAve gotcha so it's entire fan base is a bunch of teenagers that didn't exist in the 90s?
Question. Why are you an ass? What are you tryin to prove to yourself here?
@smashsalmon not trying to prove anything? Just describing the fan base right there |
Dec 21, 8:06 PM
#157
Reply to JoeChip
Most people don'T know it but Lain was the only anime that made a reference to Proust until Psycho Pass came along, which shows it actually takes a bit of education and intellectualism to appreciate Lain for what it is.
@JoeChip ah yes guys I'm a genius and have a Harvard degree cause I watched an anime about computer = bad |
Dec 21, 8:07 PM
#158
Reply to FroZBite
JackOfDeath said:
@traed all you can do is try to personally attack me whether it's the genres I've watched or my attention span? Maybe I just don't want to waste my time on a show so bland and boring that you regret starting it to begin with
@traed all you can do is try to personally attack me whether it's the genres I've watched or my attention span? Maybe I just don't want to waste my time on a show so bland and boring that you regret starting it to begin with
everyone is entitled to their own opinion. don't like SEL? might I suggest rewatching haganai, since you love it so much that you gave it a 10? oh wow a harem anime with hot characters and they're all fighting to get together with the protagonist. how original and exciting!
Look, I'm not trying to defend SEL here, but what purpose might you seek from asking these questions and then arguing with people's answers? everyone has different tastes. maybe they like the vibe, maybe they like how absurd it is, or maybe they found a hidden meaning in how SEL portrays the whole concept of "connecting the world". mind you, this came out in 1998 when the thought of being able to "connect the world" through technology hasn't even crossed most people's minds
@FroZBite calling haganai a harem has got to be the funniest shit I've seen all week😂😂😂 |
Dec 21, 8:08 PM
#159
Reply to Cypher18
JackOfDeath said:
I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?
I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?
exactly i think the same bruhh
@Cypher18 YOU'RE the Goat 🐐 |
Dec 21, 8:09 PM
#160
Reply to Masshiroi
JackOfDeath said:
I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?
I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?
I understand you completely, I finished it only with sheer willpower because it was, according to me, really awful.
@Masshiroi really awful indeed. I rated it a 2 cause of the Opening song and the last like 5 minutes of the show. Other then that it's just garbage |
Dec 21, 8:09 PM
#161
Reply to code_NKMNCR
Honestly? I don't like it either. I think it's overhyped and pretentious. But you're taking way too much of your time to bash something you don't like and discredit anyone who has a different opinion.
Get something better to do, touch some grass.
Get something better to do, touch some grass.
@code_NKMNCR how about I touch you instead |
Dec 21, 8:10 PM
#162
Reply to Karkov05
I find it somewhat pretentious, personally I liked Texhnolyze more.
@Karkov05 never even heard of that |
Dec 21, 8:12 PM
#163
Reply to Recynon
@Rishon007
The guy asked for an explanation of why people like this show. You then sarcastically strawmanned him as simply complaining that people liked this show. He asked for an explanation and you gave a cursory overview of its themes but didn't elaborate then shifted the burden of proof on him. And in this last reply you didn't elaborate much more either, falling back on the claim that SEL simply tackles these themes but not naming any specific plot points that do so. You are the one making baseless surface level observations if that is all you can say about a show that supposedly talks about what is happening right now. Supposedly you thought and came up with your own interpretation because unlike him you don't have a tik tok brain. So tell me, what EXACTLY is SEL saying about the internet and technology? What did SEL predict?
And if you say the generic thing of, now people are addicted to their screens more than ever, 1) SEL doesn't show the process of how Lain gets addicted to the internet; she simply claims that her friends on the internet are much better than the real world but we don't see the formation of those relationships. 2)SEL basically treats technology as magic where reality and the internet merge because Chiaki Konaka says so via some schumann resonance plot device. We don't know where Lain's multiple personalities come from; yes, people show a different persona online than in real life, but Lain's personas appear to be preexisting. SEL may get it generally and figuratively right that people are much more immersed in the internet now, but it almost completely misses the mark in terms of HOW and WHY that happens by treating technology and the internet as some sort of supernatural phenomenon. I think rather than SEL being some incredible predictor of the future, Chiaki Konaka is some deranged conspiracy theorist whose irrational wholesale fear of the internet just happened to have some partial truth to it.
The guy asked for an explanation of why people like this show. You then sarcastically strawmanned him as simply complaining that people liked this show. He asked for an explanation and you gave a cursory overview of its themes but didn't elaborate then shifted the burden of proof on him. And in this last reply you didn't elaborate much more either, falling back on the claim that SEL simply tackles these themes but not naming any specific plot points that do so. You are the one making baseless surface level observations if that is all you can say about a show that supposedly talks about what is happening right now. Supposedly you thought and came up with your own interpretation because unlike him you don't have a tik tok brain. So tell me, what EXACTLY is SEL saying about the internet and technology? What did SEL predict?
And if you say the generic thing of, now people are addicted to their screens more than ever, 1) SEL doesn't show the process of how Lain gets addicted to the internet; she simply claims that her friends on the internet are much better than the real world but we don't see the formation of those relationships. 2)SEL basically treats technology as magic where reality and the internet merge because Chiaki Konaka says so via some schumann resonance plot device. We don't know where Lain's multiple personalities come from; yes, people show a different persona online than in real life, but Lain's personas appear to be preexisting. SEL may get it generally and figuratively right that people are much more immersed in the internet now, but it almost completely misses the mark in terms of HOW and WHY that happens by treating technology and the internet as some sort of supernatural phenomenon. I think rather than SEL being some incredible predictor of the future, Chiaki Konaka is some deranged conspiracy theorist whose irrational wholesale fear of the internet just happened to have some partial truth to it.
@Recynon first person backing me this hard and I respect it. Thanks for bodying this guy😭🙏 |
Dec 21, 8:14 PM
#164
Reply to Sleesh
The zoomer brain can’t fathom
@Sleesh aw yes it's my brain that's the problem? Or maybe it's just a terrible anime that people can only give "abstract" reasons why it's good? Nostalgia and the need to feel unique is a powerful thing. |
Dec 21, 10:02 PM
#165
I can get not liking Lain, the show isn't for everyone but why hating on people who like it and claiming they lie about why they feel? Personally I love lain because it's a beautiful story about a lonely and isolated girl and the tragedy of her alienation , her friendship with Arisu and her father being the highlight, showing the dissonance between her want for love and her difficulty being with people and her complicated relationship with a family who mostly (except for her mom maybe) loves her but can't understand her, even if they aren't her real family It's just a beautiful tragedy of a girl who feels she has no place in the world while also having some interesting food for thought about our connection to technology which is also worked on by a writer of my favourite digimon season so the writing style feels familiar and one I really love I get that it isn't for everyone, very similarly to Rei from evangelion, some love the character and some don't understand her at all, it says nothing about intelligence, only the ability to relate or empathise with this kind of character and people in general like reserved characters less for some reason |
Dec 21, 11:40 PM
#166
does op know about opinions? |
Dec 22, 1:16 AM
#167
JackOfDeath said: @cursed_viper I understand the entire plot and knew exactly where it was going. The plot wasn't confusing it was just bad. All the characters were boring soulless and useless with zero substance to them, lain as well is a boring and uninteresting mc, we know basically nothing before the wired except she was anxious and an introvert. The world was boring and had no build up, every episode just skipped ahead to see Lain go deeper and deeper into madness making it to where you didn't feel a connection to it since it was so rushed. Not to mention the entire premise was bad. If the only thing people can say about an anime to make it sound good is "the atmosphere" "the vibe" "the uniqueness" and etc, it's obvious not good. You are obviously just trying to say you like it to seem like you "understood" The bigger picture when in the end the bigger picture is just how lazy, boring and empty the world, characters and plot is. (Name 1 anime besides platinum end where the entire world and every character dies. Oh wait you can't, it's a 10 from boldness alone) other than lain rest of the characters were boaring and soulless I agree with that, but they were not that much important for the story to begin with (except few) so I didn't really cared But lain was very intresting character, I don't know what are you yapping about. Her character growth throughout the series was phenomenal. And why didn't we no nothing about her before the whole wired thing? that's because she didn't existed before that, she was created in wired. If you actually watched the show with your brain open you may have seen that But I don't expect someone who can give Tokyo ghoul √A 10/10 to watch shows with their brain open With all that said, you actually make a very good argument about why should someone give platinum end 10/10 yes I also should score it 10 because of the fact that everyone is killed in this show as a result the pointless universe of platinum end dosnt exist any more I still don't understand how can the writer of death note can write this nonsense the kid said if he became god he would just kill himself, but the other idiots still made him God and what did he do when he became god? oh that's right he killed himself if you find that intresting and not lain's character then your iq is just lower than your dick size at the end I just want to say, the whole argument about why you don't find serial experiments lain intresting and everyone else does can be answered in one sentence everyone has different taste in anime yours just happened to be an exceptionally bad one |
Dec 22, 2:21 AM
#168
Maybe it's just you picked the wrong shows what are the genre you like in content |
Dec 22, 2:22 AM
#169
Reply to Rishon007
oh no! people like something I don't, how dare they!
@Rishon007 lol good one this guy just doesn't make sense |
Dec 22, 2:35 AM
#170
Lain is full of bright ideas and not just shady vibes. One of my favourite is the problem of being connected with or without peripherals to the net and to eachother. This problem still stands, these days implants are under development and who wouldn’t play with the idea of using this tech to more and more. There was a good series on netflix which adapted Huxley’s Brave New World where they had some sort of a smart contact lens for their eyes, there is this high budget fancy scene which shows a close up on how the lens are being applied to the eye so its tiny cables are actually penetrating the eye to reach the nerves, and voilà from there they stay connected. I liked the interpretation of SeL on this, even with the scetchy animation which I personally found even more fulfilling. This is just one example and I’m happy to share a lot more. I don’t think there are only abstract reasons why to like this show but its always hard to convert impressions to words its a difficult job with any anime since the feelings are in deed abstract we can’t just pass our joy of something to someone else, or at least not on a forum, maybe in the future on the wired lol. But thats why I asked the good ol’ GPT4 I think the answer is interesting: “Serial Experiments Lain is a show that invites viewers to relate to it through its themes of identity, connection, and the blurred line between reality and the digital world. It doesn’t just hand you answers—it asks you to explore questions like: • Who am I in a world where online and offline lives blend together? • How much of “me” is shaped by my connections to others and to technology? • Where do the boundaries of reality end and the digital self begin? It mirrors real-life struggles with social isolation, the need for belonging, and our growing dependence on tech to connect. Lain herself is a blank slate in many ways, making it easier for viewers to project their own experiences and questions onto her journey. The show’s cryptic storytelling pulls you into its world, encouraging you to interpret its meaning through your own lens. It’s less about understanding Lain and more about reflecting on how you relate to the wired world it portrays.” So there might be a good reason why some people find it substanceless or soulless, I guess it was meant to be that way as an experimental media format, even the game was planned like this. However I think anime overall is an underground “genre” compared to for example holywood, lain is like the underground of the underground and by that I’m talking about very exact financial/technical problems and not abstract art or existentialism and philospophy. Negative criticism over the visuals and animation about an alter 90’ anime is just a cheap point which I will never go into. |
Dec 22, 3:07 AM
#171
i just love freaky and weird stuff. Jokes aside, i understand that lain deffo isnt for everyone and in many aspects is probably pretty overhyped. For me personally Lain is exactly what i like in anime, just hits the spot; The show raises deep questions about who we are, what’s real, and how the internet affects our sense of self. I known it for its surreal storytelling and eerie atmosphere, blending cyberpunk and existential themes in a way that’s both unsettling and thought-provoking and literally beautiful. Fight me on this but ill stay a simp for Yoshitoshi ABe foreverrr -3- |
Dec 22, 3:18 AM
#172
Reply to tsukor
Lain is full of bright ideas and not just shady vibes.
One of my favourite is the problem of being connected with or without peripherals to the net and to eachother. This problem still stands, these days implants are under development and who wouldn’t play with the idea of using this tech to more and more. There was a good series on netflix which adapted Huxley’s Brave New World where they had some sort of a smart contact lens for their eyes, there is this high budget fancy scene which shows a close up on how the lens are being applied to the eye so its tiny cables are actually penetrating the eye to reach the nerves, and voilà from there they stay connected. I liked the interpretation of SeL on this, even with the scetchy animation which I personally found even more fulfilling. This is just one example and I’m happy to share a lot more. I don’t think there are only abstract reasons why to like this show but its always hard to convert impressions to words its a difficult job with any anime since the feelings are in deed abstract we can’t just pass our joy of something to someone else, or at least not on a forum, maybe in the future on the wired lol.
But thats why I asked the good ol’ GPT4
I think the answer is interesting:
“Serial Experiments Lain is a show that invites viewers to relate to it through its themes of identity, connection, and the blurred line between reality and the digital world. It doesn’t just hand you answers—it asks you to explore questions like:
• Who am I in a world where online and offline lives blend together?
• How much of “me” is shaped by my connections to others and to technology?
• Where do the boundaries of reality end and the digital self begin?
It mirrors real-life struggles with social isolation, the need for belonging, and our growing dependence on tech to connect. Lain herself is a blank slate in many ways, making it easier for viewers to project their own experiences and questions onto her journey. The show’s cryptic storytelling pulls you into its world, encouraging you to interpret its meaning through your own lens.
It’s less about understanding Lain and more about reflecting on how you relate to the wired world it portrays.”
So there might be a good reason why some people find it substanceless or soulless, I guess it was meant to be that way as an experimental media format, even the game was planned like this.
However I think anime overall is an underground “genre” compared to for example holywood, lain is like the underground of the underground and by that I’m talking about very exact financial/technical problems and not abstract art or existentialism and philospophy.
Negative criticism over the visuals and animation about an alter 90’ anime is just a cheap point which I will never go into.
One of my favourite is the problem of being connected with or without peripherals to the net and to eachother. This problem still stands, these days implants are under development and who wouldn’t play with the idea of using this tech to more and more. There was a good series on netflix which adapted Huxley’s Brave New World where they had some sort of a smart contact lens for their eyes, there is this high budget fancy scene which shows a close up on how the lens are being applied to the eye so its tiny cables are actually penetrating the eye to reach the nerves, and voilà from there they stay connected. I liked the interpretation of SeL on this, even with the scetchy animation which I personally found even more fulfilling. This is just one example and I’m happy to share a lot more. I don’t think there are only abstract reasons why to like this show but its always hard to convert impressions to words its a difficult job with any anime since the feelings are in deed abstract we can’t just pass our joy of something to someone else, or at least not on a forum, maybe in the future on the wired lol.
But thats why I asked the good ol’ GPT4
I think the answer is interesting:
“Serial Experiments Lain is a show that invites viewers to relate to it through its themes of identity, connection, and the blurred line between reality and the digital world. It doesn’t just hand you answers—it asks you to explore questions like:
• Who am I in a world where online and offline lives blend together?
• How much of “me” is shaped by my connections to others and to technology?
• Where do the boundaries of reality end and the digital self begin?
It mirrors real-life struggles with social isolation, the need for belonging, and our growing dependence on tech to connect. Lain herself is a blank slate in many ways, making it easier for viewers to project their own experiences and questions onto her journey. The show’s cryptic storytelling pulls you into its world, encouraging you to interpret its meaning through your own lens.
It’s less about understanding Lain and more about reflecting on how you relate to the wired world it portrays.”
So there might be a good reason why some people find it substanceless or soulless, I guess it was meant to be that way as an experimental media format, even the game was planned like this.
However I think anime overall is an underground “genre” compared to for example holywood, lain is like the underground of the underground and by that I’m talking about very exact financial/technical problems and not abstract art or existentialism and philospophy.
Negative criticism over the visuals and animation about an alter 90’ anime is just a cheap point which I will never go into.
@tsukor well written mister man |
Dec 22, 4:05 AM
#173
You have shows like Real Drive and Ghost in the Shell SAC that have ACTUAL SUBSTANCE by putting thought into their scifi concepts and explaining them clearly as opposed to being confusing in order to be thought provoking. I doubt any of you have actually learned anything from pondering the thought provoking questions of Lain. |
Dec 22, 4:46 AM
#174
Reply to JackOfDeath
@cursed_viper I understand the entire plot and knew exactly where it was going. The plot wasn't confusing it was just bad. All the characters were boring soulless and useless with zero substance to them, lain as well is a boring and uninteresting mc, we know basically nothing before the wired except she was anxious and an introvert. The world was boring and had no build up, every episode just skipped ahead to see Lain go deeper and deeper into madness making it to where you didn't feel a connection to it since it was so rushed. Not to mention the entire premise was bad. If the only thing people can say about an anime to make it sound good is "the atmosphere" "the vibe" "the uniqueness" and etc, it's obvious not good. You are obviously just trying to say you like it to seem like you "understood" The bigger picture when in the end the bigger picture is just how lazy, boring and empty the world, characters and plot is. (Name 1 anime besides platinum end where the entire world and every character dies. Oh wait you can't, it's a 10 from boldness alone)
JackOfDeath said: Name 1 anime besides platinum end where the entire world and every character dies. Oh wait you can't, it's a 10 from boldness alone Space runaway Ideon Zeta gundam came pretty close Technically evangelion I'm pretty sure devilman |
Dec 22, 7:38 AM
#175
JackOfDeath said: @ricejelly and you should try to watch good anime instead of saying this is your favorite cause "I'm so Lain" I’m just a stranger on the internet, man. I’m not going to dedicate a lot of time here. But I really do think you should look into why it bothers you so much that people like different cartoons than you. Or, if this IS just a cry for attention, why you feel like picking petty fights with a bunch of people you’ll never see is the best way to get it. I have no reason to be invested in your well being, but you do. |
ricejellyDec 22, 6:17 PM
Did you hear me? I said I'm gonna do my best!! ☆ |
Dec 22, 8:58 AM
#176
You people are actually bothering to argue with a baiting edgy troll... |
Dec 22, 10:58 AM
#177
you know you have said the most smartest thing in this whole post |
Dec 22, 12:24 PM
#178
Reply to Guilmon1
I can get not liking Lain, the show isn't for everyone but why hating on people who like it and claiming they lie about why they feel?
Personally I love lain because it's a beautiful story about a lonely and isolated girl and the tragedy of her alienation , her friendship with Arisu and her father being the highlight, showing the dissonance between her want for love and her difficulty being with people and her complicated relationship with a family who mostly (except for her mom maybe) loves her but can't understand her, even if they aren't her real family
It's just a beautiful tragedy of a girl who feels she has no place in the world while also having some interesting food for thought about our connection to technology which is also worked on by a writer of my favourite digimon season so the writing style feels familiar and one I really love
I get that it isn't for everyone, very similarly to Rei from evangelion, some love the character and some don't understand her at all, it says nothing about intelligence, only the ability to relate or empathise with this kind of character and people in general like reserved characters less for some reason
Personally I love lain because it's a beautiful story about a lonely and isolated girl and the tragedy of her alienation , her friendship with Arisu and her father being the highlight, showing the dissonance between her want for love and her difficulty being with people and her complicated relationship with a family who mostly (except for her mom maybe) loves her but can't understand her, even if they aren't her real family
It's just a beautiful tragedy of a girl who feels she has no place in the world while also having some interesting food for thought about our connection to technology which is also worked on by a writer of my favourite digimon season so the writing style feels familiar and one I really love
I get that it isn't for everyone, very similarly to Rei from evangelion, some love the character and some don't understand her at all, it says nothing about intelligence, only the ability to relate or empathise with this kind of character and people in general like reserved characters less for some reason
@Guilmon1 The mother you see in the show I think hates her role as a mother or the repetition in her life. She only is interested in being a lover. If you go through the game in images you see a different person shown as her mother this one loves her but she also is like her dad in some ways where she doesnt fully get through to Lain. Lain instead mostly is shown talking to a psychotherapist. |
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Dec 22, 12:27 PM
#179
Reply to traed
@Guilmon1
The mother you see in the show I think hates her role as a mother or the repetition in her life. She only is interested in being a lover. If you go through the game in images you see a different person shown as her mother this one loves her but she also is like her dad in some ways where she doesnt fully get through to Lain. Lain instead mostly is shown talking to a psychotherapist.
The mother you see in the show I think hates her role as a mother or the repetition in her life. She only is interested in being a lover. If you go through the game in images you see a different person shown as her mother this one loves her but she also is like her dad in some ways where she doesnt fully get through to Lain. Lain instead mostly is shown talking to a psychotherapist.
@traed didn't play the game yet and the mother is one of the least developed characters in the anime so never felt about it, sounds interesting |
Dec 22, 12:43 PM
#180
Reply to Guilmon1
@traed didn't play the game yet and the mother is one of the least developed characters in the anime so never felt about it, sounds interesting
@Guilmon1 It's really just shown in the odd way she acts I get that impression. The game is very different from the anime but dealing with same themes. I have reason to think they are connected rather than just alternate timelines but this isnt explicitly stated. The game is like a non linear visual novel except it is images, audio files, journal entries, and short animated segments telling a story |
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Dec 22, 3:50 PM
#181
You didn't like? Good for you! We were dying to hear your opinion. |
Dec 22, 5:46 PM
#182
I loved the visuals and overall aesthetic of the show. Plot didn't hit home completely, but i felt it was decent enough. There is an argument to be made for it being slightly overrated tho. P.S. Insane opening. |
Dec 23, 7:02 AM
#183
I completely agree. It’s super boring and confusing. Could have been condensed into a 90 minute movie and would have been better. If you watch it back for a second time, everything makes sense, but it’s so boring no one wants to sit through that again |
Dec 23, 8:26 AM
#184
Reply to IAmVento
I completely agree. It’s super boring and confusing. Could have been condensed into a 90 minute movie and would have been better. If you watch it back for a second time, everything makes sense, but it’s so boring no one wants to sit through that again
@IAmVento Okay, you are so cool and right for saying all that and obviously your opinion is the objective fact and it can't be reasonably argued against in any kind of logical way. Btw, I would advice you not even trying to watch Texhnolyze and you might want to remove Boogiepop from your PTW. |
Dec 23, 8:40 AM
#185
Reply to traed
@Guilmon1
It's really just shown in the odd way she acts I get that impression. The game is very different from the anime but dealing with same themes. I have reason to think they are connected rather than just alternate timelines but this isnt explicitly stated. The game is like a non linear visual novel except it is images, audio files, journal entries, and short animated segments telling a story
It's really just shown in the odd way she acts I get that impression. The game is very different from the anime but dealing with same themes. I have reason to think they are connected rather than just alternate timelines but this isnt explicitly stated. The game is like a non linear visual novel except it is images, audio files, journal entries, and short animated segments telling a story
@traed The one shot manga is also a part of the game as it was packed with the game in Japan and corresponds to the missing file of the game. There is actually a short part of ther game where you do some puzzle solving which is pretty much the only interactive part. Her Story is a similar game to Lain if you know about it . |
Dec 23, 12:41 PM
#186
@JoeChip Yeah I went through the online remake a few years ago when it was just the files you click through before they had a full interface. As for the whole thing spoiler required for a speculation. The game was released before the show BTW Some people think the game is an alternate timeline but I really think it takes place in the same world despite Lain killing herself. Lain in game starts off as a 12 year old and lives to 14. Either the TV anime Lain came to be after the game Lain or they both existed at the same time. The dad at one point disappears in the game's story if I recall right it wasnt known what happened to him. That is when Lain builds the robot torso out of loneliness and need to be held and touched and was some subtle sexual implications but i dont think she was literally into her dad that way it's likely more a reference to the electra complex and symbolic of all her physical needs not met by the Wired if anything. There is two possibilities. One is the dad was killed in an accident or committed suicide which is only slightly supported in the show near the end of the TV show where he sort of appears as if he is communicating to Lain through the Wired directly. But more likely I think he was living a double life with two families and at some point abandoned Lain and her mother. Due to the mother in the game looking like Lain perhaps she is her real biological mother indicating that Lain is was born from her. The TV lain possibly materialized. This makes the abandonment even more fucked up because it possibly means he sees the TV Lain as better due to her better ability to connect to the Wired. It's basically implied TV Lain is the only one with someone to ground her enough to not completely leave the physical world entirely having Alice as a friend. |
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Yesterday, 7:32 AM
#187
JackOfDeath said: I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime? Yeah i never understood the hype dispite liking philosophical and dark animes. It was an absolute snooze fest for me but the intro made it worth while. Different folks different strokes ig |
Yesterday, 7:46 AM
#188
SCAREDgorilla said: JackOfDeath said: @SCAREDgorilla honestly never even heard of that but after seeing "3rd grader" in the description I don't think I wanna either I have more peak recommendations if you want. Here’s another: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/ Thats an insane title 😭😭😭 |
Yesterday, 7:50 AM
#189
Darzy_Mal said: @JackOfDeath I am not good at explaining things that I like but I hope u will take your time to read it. it talks about social issues that are still relevant today than it ever was in 1998. I am not making this up and this is fact whether you like it or not. idk your points about it being uninteresting. Lain is one of the most unique piece of media I have ever seen. Its incredile atmosphere, vague symbolism, surreal visuals and thought-provoking story add to the interestingness of the series. You probably don't like it because it is slow and dry to watch, but that was a part of the creator's intention. By making it slow, again, adds to the overall atmosphere and strangness of the series. Lain is a series that some ppl can relate to. Lain herself is a character who is introvert, socially-awkward but when she is on the WIRED (internet), she is confident and aggressively outspoken. Its idea is that we adapt different personality when we are on the internet. Sounds familar? that is the type of stuff that ppl do nowadays, our identity on internet and ours irl are different. So that's why ppl like becuz it is deep and ahead of its time. Lain is not for everyone including you i guess but the fact that you dislike it doesn't mean it a bad show. You should give yourself more credit. This is the best explanation on this whole discussion and it gave le a better pov. Im gonna rewatch it to see if i get a better experience. Thanks |
Yesterday, 2:00 PM
#190
It's one of the best for me it's slow but it's immersive |
6 hours ago
#191
the anime was actually kinda good but the ugly ahh art style coupled with the bad animation just distracted me all the time |
6 hours ago
#192
Reply to Young_Genna
SCAREDgorilla said:
I have more peak recommendations if you want.
Here’s another: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/
JackOfDeath said:
@SCAREDgorilla honestly never even heard of that but after seeing "3rd grader" in the description I don't think I wanna either
@SCAREDgorilla honestly never even heard of that but after seeing "3rd grader" in the description I don't think I wanna either
I have more peak recommendations if you want.
Here’s another: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/
Thats an insane title 😭😭😭
@Young_Genna well at least it's a honest one with a title like that nobody can't complain that they don't know what they get into. |
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