They ruined the vibe of the show with frederica and season 2 is weaker than 1

Aug 15, 7:29 AM

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Guilmon1 said:
@AnimeRacoon oh thanks

No worries 🤝
But I very much agree, extremely impactful both times I watched

Aug 15, 8:05 AM

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How is Frederica a worse character than Lena?...

Aug 15, 8:18 AM

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I thought this was the most typical and bland mecha show anyway. Then the little girl came in and just took it down more for me

Aug 15, 9:17 AM

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Anime_Skaddiel said:
the hell are you talking man. There's only 1 season in 86. Where did s2 spawn from? 😭

they think part 2 is season 2

Aug 15, 9:17 AM

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Merve2Love said:
How is Frederica a worse character than Lena?...

nawhhhh MOMMY LENA for the win

Aug 15, 9:30 AM

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Sagepool said:
I thought this was the most typical and bland mecha show anyway. Then the little girl came in and just took it down more for me

how dare thy type thy false statement and then be brave enough to public thy post

Aug 15, 9:53 AM

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She’s good character she plays big role in the story

Aug 15, 10:22 AM

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NunoTheDudeYT said:
man why is she here, she kinda ruins the mood and makes the depressing aspects of this anime a joke, a mascot? ffs u gotta be joking, not only that but like season 2 is weaker imo, Milena was a great character and the 86 were such likeable characters but season 2 jst isnt hitting te same way

yeah the vibe isn't present anymore, but it also represent the evolution of the caracters situation

Aug 15, 10:32 AM

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NunoTheDudeYT said:
man why is she here, she kinda ruins the mood and makes the depressing aspects of this anime a joke, a mascot? ffs u gotta be joking, not only that but like season 2 is weaker imo, Milena was a great character and the 86 were such likeable characters but season 2 jst isnt hitting te same way

I've not read the LN but from my own experience, she was just there to drive the plot with her identity and ability. However, part 2 is just as good if not better in the entire 86(anime).

Part 1 was mainly about the tragic fate of 86s. And within that living hell, it also touches on the topic of what "salvation" means to them. The epicness of part 1 stems from witnessing their struggle throughout and finally coming to their destination. (Especially when it is constantly contrasted with Milena's perspective.) Therefore, if part 1 were said to be climbing the Himalayas, part 2'd be where you've finally reached the peak.

What comes after all the bloodshed is then further discussed in part 2. It brings out the irony that:

Despite 86 had been the fate they wanted to escape for their entire life, it is only when they obtained salvation in the form of living in a peaceful country, do they have time to think about the meaning of their life - not allowing themselves to selfishly enjoy the peaceful life brought about by countless deceased comrades and to choose their own demise as they fight til their last breathe.

Part 2 is beautiful because it doesn't mean that they're wasting their life going into battle field again. Instead, they've learnt to cherish their life and they won't allow themselves to die in a fight so easily unless they decide that's it.

So the reunion feels like a answer to Milena calling not to leave her behind. Keep fighting forward doesn't mean they're giving up their life and leave Milena all alone. And when the scene hits, everything gets concluded and imo creates a very memorable moment.

(My analysis and opinion could just be complete bs, but I really love the series.)

Aug 15, 10:44 AM

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I think you are absolutley right bro the second but just don't flow that much anymore like part 1 and the emotions are not connect anymore too

Aug 15, 12:14 PM

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TheAceGamer30 said:
She’s good character she plays big role in the story

EXXXACTTLY why do they fail to see that

Aug 15, 12:15 PM

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KSzet said:
I think you are absolutley right bro the second but just don't flow that much anymore like part 1 and the emotions are not connect anymore too

NAWHHH PART 2 ENDING WAS SO EMOTIONAL TF U MEAN

Aug 15, 2:36 PM

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This is funny because there is no season 2 of 86.

Aug 15, 2:47 PM

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100% disagree both are fantastic

Aug 15, 3:34 PM

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I’d say the dialogue being way overbearing killed it more. It has too much in it that’s meant to be overly meaningful. Meaningful moments must be earned.

And the direction emphasizing those meaningful moments is just further injury really. It just feels even more overblown. Re:Zero second season has the exact same problem.

Aug 15, 3:42 PM

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fyi there was never a season 2. You’re probably referring to Part 2, which has the greatest OP of all time go debate a tree

Aug 15, 5:33 PM

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SSRSyt said:

Sagepool said:
I thought this was the most typical and bland mecha show anyway. Then the little girl came in and just took it down more for me

how dare thy type thy false statement and then be brave enough to public thy post

Lol, Ive seen a lot of Mecha and this one was basically a combination of all of them but no part of it was done as well. The characters were so cheesy other than Reaper, it was hard to finish part 1 for me. Part 2 at least Reaper was the main focus more

Aug 15, 7:41 PM

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NonSenseWILH said:

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don't criticize the show!! according to the fans it's a masterpiece with no flaws!!!

Oughte be honest, I ain't sure if that's suposed to be sarcasm or u mean that xD hope it's the first

it's sarcasm obviously

Aug 15, 9:57 PM

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maraud3r said:
This is funny because there is no season 2 of 86.

they think part 2 is season 2 😭

Aug 15, 9:57 PM

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Legendblade86 said:
100% disagree both are fantastic

exactly both were great and amazing

Aug 16, 1:16 AM

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Adnash said:
I consider Season 2 superior to Season 1, if you ask me. Frederica could be annoying at times, but she was miles better than Lena the naive crybaby waifubait, lol.

i disagree she's a badass and a strong female character which is very well written. It's rare to see a well written main female characters the last one I remember is maomao from the apothecary diaries

Maomao is 10,000 times better character (in every aspect) than Frederica it’s disrespectful of you to even compare these two.

Aug 16, 1:18 AM

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Cross_2D said:

Hickykissy said:

i disagree she's a badass and a strong female character which is very well written. It's rare to see a well written main female characters the last one I remember is maomao from the apothecary diaries

Maomao is 10,000 times better character (in every aspect) than Frederica it’s disrespectful of you to even compare these two.

where did Federica come from? I'm talking about Lena and btw I like her more than maomao. And don't disrespect my girl Federica like that she's a more well written character than maomao in every aspect but people likes maomao because of her personality

Aug 16, 3:15 AM

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Saimatsu_Fan said:

NonSenseWILH said:

Oughte be honest, I ain't sure if that's suposed to be sarcasm or u mean that xD hope it's the first

it's sarcasm obviously

Aight, totally agree then ^^

Aug 16, 4:45 AM

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Cross_2D said:

Hickykissy said:

i disagree she's a badass and a strong female character which is very well written. It's rare to see a well written main female characters the last one I remember is maomao from the apothecary diaries

Maomao is 10,000 times better character (in every aspect) than Frederica it’s disrespectful of you to even compare these two.

sir you dropped your cap crown 👑

Aug 16, 4:46 AM

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Hickykissy said:

Cross_2D said:

Maomao is 10,000 times better character (in every aspect) than Frederica it’s disrespectful of you to even compare these two.

where did Federica come from? I'm talking about Lena and btw I like her more than maomao. And don't disrespect my girl Federica like that she's a more well written character than maomao in every aspect but people likes maomao because of her personality

YEAHHHHAHAHAHHA I TOTALLY agree with you Frederica and MOMMYY LENA for the win

Aug 16, 6:23 AM

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Invalid opinion. Shit opinion. Don’t ever talk about 86 ever again.

Aug 16, 10:31 AM

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NoUsername09 said:
Invalid opinion. Shit opinion. Don’t ever talk about 86 ever again.

that's one way to put it.................. atleast let him finish 86 😭

Aug 16, 12:28 PM

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SSRSyt said:

Cross_2D said:

Maomao is 10,000 times better character (in every aspect) than Frederica it’s disrespectful of you to even compare these two.

sir you dropped your cap crown 👑

No cap just straight facts. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delulu

Aug 16, 12:40 PM

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I didn't like Frederica either and yeah I agree part 1 is better than part 2. I enjoyed both all the same though. I just started the LNs hopefully Frederica isn't as prominent there lol

Aug 16, 1:05 PM

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Cross_2D said:

SSRSyt said:

sir you dropped your cap crown 👑

No cap just straight facts. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delulu

"Nuh uh" I'm only delulu for MOMMY LENA and other than that I'm just autistic but till I like the anime but I understand everyone has their own opinion so it's chill

Aug 16, 1:06 PM

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SlintOCE said:
I didn't like Frederica either and yeah I agree part 1 is better than part 2. I enjoyed both all the same though. I just started the LNs hopefully Frederica isn't as prominent there lol

your sir will be very sad to find out how prominent she is about to become in the light novels 😭

Aug 16, 3:28 PM

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My face when I saw this thread title:

On a serious note, I can understand why people would like part 1 but not part 2. If you are more interested in the military aspect and the dark mood of part 1, you might not like part 2.

Aug 16, 3:32 PM

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NunoTheDudeYT said:

SSRSyt said:
secondly there's no season 2, it's one season with 2 parts, I realize you have your own opinion but I think both the parts were amazing especially the ending of part 2

i see, ill keep watching im on ep4 also doesent part 2 end the series and there is more content that is unfinished in the main story?

I find it crazy to judge whole part 2 from 4 episodes but I guess people are like that

Aug 16, 3:51 PM

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The lack of Lena in this season was disgusting.

Aug 16, 4:35 PM

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SSRSyt said:

TheAceGamer30 said:
She’s good character she plays big role in the story

EXXXACTTLY why do they fail to see that

People like to hate and find fault in already good anime 🤣

Aug 16, 6:25 PM

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the pay off is worth it

Aug 17, 3:20 AM

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_Benji_ said:

NunoTheDudeYT said:

i see, ill keep watching im on ep4 also doesent part 2 end the series and there is more content that is unfinished in the main story?

I find it crazy to judge whole part 2 from 4 episodes but I guess people are like that

it do be like that sometimes but it's ok he will learn soon

Aug 17, 3:20 AM

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WatchTillTandava said:
The lack of Lena in this season was disgusting.

#GiveMOMYLenaMoreScreenTIME

Aug 17, 3:21 AM

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TheAceGamer30 said:

SSRSyt said:

EXXXACTTLY why do they fail to see that

People like to hate and find fault in already good anime 🤣

fr it's a masterpiece anime I don't see how they can hate it

Aug 17, 3:22 AM

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samthestan said:
the pay off is worth it

so much worth it that it made me cry 😭

Aug 17, 8:11 AM

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Part 2 was definitely better

Aug 17, 1:22 PM

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af1717 said:
Part 2 was definitely better

I loved both of then in their own way but the ending of part 2 was so goooddd fr

Aug 17, 5:18 PM

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SSRSyt said:

Cross_2D said:

No cap just straight facts. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delulu

"Nuh uh" I'm only delulu for MOMMY LENA and other than that I'm just autistic but till I like the anime but I understand everyone has their own opinion so it's chill

Well even Mommy Lena is also way better

Aug 18, 8:13 AM

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NunoTheDudeYT said:
man why is she here, she kinda ruins the mood and makes the depressing aspects of this anime a joke, a mascot? ffs u gotta be joking, not only that but like season 2 is weaker imo, Milena was a great character and the 86 were such likeable characters but season 2 jst isnt hitting te same way

She’s a lolly figure?, every anime ends one, even if it’s for the last moment

Aug 18, 1:35 PM

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Cross_2D said:

SSRSyt said:

"Nuh uh" I'm only delulu for MOMMY LENA and other than that I'm just autistic but till I like the anime but I understand everyone has their own opinion so it's chill

Well even Mommy Lena is also way better

agreed, MOMMY LENA FOR THE SMASHHH... I meant win

Nov 10, 1:08 PM

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I completely agree. Part 2 ditched Lena, who was by far the best character in Part 1. I absolutely loved Part 1, but Part 2 just felt so repetitive and slow. I don’t care about seeing these characters that I barely know anything about fighting some robots.

I want to see Lena build her relationship with them…

Part 2 was a massive letdown and probably the biggest drop off for a second season I’ve seen since The Promised Neverland.

Nov 10, 1:11 PM

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Part 2 was definitely better

I loved both of then in their own way but the ending of part 2 was so goooddd fr

@SSRSyt ending of part 2 was the only thing that saved the trainwreck of a season imo.

The pacing went way off and it just completely failed to hold my interest. Turned into too much of a typical action-shounen with minimal investment into character depth (very deceptively deep, shile being very surface level in reality).

I thought they just focused way too much on fight scenes for Part 2. But the last episode was great. Just a shame we had to sit through the rest of Part 2 to get there…

Nov 11, 7:05 AM

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Just finished the second part of season one, and wow, it seems like I'm majorly in the minority, because I enjoyed it more than part one in pretty much every conceivable area. Of course, one of the major reasons I disliked part one to the extent that I did, was the character of Lena. I guess with part two only featuring her rarely, it was already on the right track with me. But yeah, generally, the show coped much better with a smaller cast of our core 86, and it seemed to do a much better job of making me actually feel attached to them.

I never thought I'd say it after watching part one, but, honestly, I really want a season two.

Nov 11, 7:27 AM

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Frederica is the most entertaining girl of the show.

No, this isn't my signature-desu.

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