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Oct 24, 2023 8:41 AM
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I go to hand it down to the team adapting the anime from the source material. They have got the essence of the material and made improvements that enhances the material in the animated medium.
Same can't be said about the adaptation of "Mushoku Tensei". You will notice not everything translates properly from the source. In fact, the most critical aspects have not translated well at all to the animated medium. They have tried to follow the source closely which makes some parts boring and made modifications that don't convey the actual essence of the scenarios.
Who is to be given credit to the adapting part from the cast and staff? Director? or script writers?
What other animes have amazing adaptations?

Edit: Most of the responses pointed out that several mangas have fantastic adaptations. And I agree. I think it is much easier to adapt a manga since the manga itself is close to a script and screenplay. But it is hard to condense the heavily detailed light novels I guess. You have to make so many decisions of what to include and where to condense the material, and thats where I think you can admire the creativity of the adaptation.
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Oct 24, 2023 8:55 AM
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Its a good but not best adaption anime

I can tell several better adapt like: FMA, HxH 2011, bakemonogatari serie..., knb with anime more better than manga and newest jjk ss2
Oct 24, 2023 8:55 AM
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Demon slayer has a basically perfect adaptation. And also jujutsu kaisen
Oct 24, 2023 8:56 AM
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obviously not, man
Oct 24, 2023 9:00 AM
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I think you forget frieren is also airing this season.
Oct 24, 2023 9:03 AM
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This is definitely kne of the best adoptions I've ever seen. It's so faithful to the original material that Aninews had to put 2 episodes worth of cut content into 1 video, because it barely missed anything. The anime also adds its own original content, which is amazing to see studios do. The animations incredible and the soundtracks go hard.
Oct 24, 2023 9:05 AM
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Its debatable. In my opinion, Re:Zero has the most faithful adaptation for a LN, among all the shows I have watched. The screen writer (better known as series composition for a TV show) decides most of the settings and points. While the director has the final say to everything!!!
Oct 24, 2023 9:09 AM
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I’ve seen a lot of anime with great adaptations! Dead Mount Death Play is pretty much 1:1. Tokyo Revengers is true to the source as well. Doctor Stone also does a really great job!
Oct 24, 2023 9:34 AM
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I don't know about being the "best" adaptation. There are scenes completely different from the LN. Also, there are some minor skips here and there. It's mostly good.
Oct 24, 2023 9:37 AM

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Nope. Golden Boy is the best anime adaptation ever because it removed 2/3 of the manga, making the series 100 times better.
Seriously these 2/3 were horrible. Good job anime people.
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Oct 24, 2023 9:45 AM

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Oct 24, 2023 9:47 AM

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puvijain said:
I go to hand it down to the team adapting the anime from the source material. They have got the essence of the material and made improvements that enhances the material in the animated medium.
Same can't be said about the adaptation of "Mushoku Tensei". You will notice not everything translates properly from the source. In fact, the most critical aspects have not translated well at all to the animated medium. They have tried to follow the source closely which makes some parts boring and made modifications that don't convey the actual essence of the scenarios.
Who is to be given credit to the adapting part from the cast and staff? Director? or script writers?
What other animes have amazing adaptations?

No … not by a long shot
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Oct 24, 2023 9:50 AM
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Bocchi the Rock and Bakemonogatari have exceptionally good adaptations.
Oct 24, 2023 9:52 AM
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it's good, but it's not the best lol.
Oct 24, 2023 10:06 AM
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AOT has the exact page to page adaptation
Oct 24, 2023 10:51 AM
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Personally I found the LN funnier than the anime.

I think the cloest adaptation is going to go to AOT or FMA by a country mile. Both were done almost frame by frame and beautifully. "Best" is very subjective.
Oct 24, 2023 11:56 AM
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Eminence in shadow is an amazing anime adaptation! It really is done so well.

It adds to the story in a very organic way, making it stand out in its own without betraying the source.

Serious props to whoever is responsible for such a masterful adaptation
Oct 24, 2023 12:59 PM
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Not even close. It’s not even the best one this season, Frieren being head and shoulders above it. It’s perfectly enjoyable tho.
Oct 24, 2023 1:25 PM
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Monster was always a show I considered had a perfect adaptation.
Oct 24, 2023 1:27 PM

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For unique isekai but sorry no :)
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Oct 24, 2023 1:54 PM
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Phantom_373 said:
Demon slayer has a basically perfect adaptation. And also jujutsu kaisen

I'd agree with this. Not because Demon Slayer is a great series, it's quite mediocre, but because the animated adaptation truly sublimates the source.
Right now I'd say the best adaptation is probably Frieren because it really does add a lot of feelings to the story. I found the manga to be quite "expressionless" at times.

Eminence in the shadows is pretty fun, but the manga is just as funny imo
Oct 24, 2023 3:41 PM
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HaylenGrey said:
I’ve seen a lot of anime with great adaptations! Dead Mount Death Play is pretty much 1:1. Tokyo Revengers is true to the source as well. Doctor Stone also does a really great job!

tokyo ghoul adapt is nothing compared to the manga
Oct 24, 2023 3:43 PM

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OrderInTheCourt said:
HaylenGrey said:
I’ve seen a lot of anime with great adaptations! Dead Mount Death Play is pretty much 1:1. Tokyo Revengers is true to the source as well. Doctor Stone also does a really great job!

tokyo ghoul adapt is nothing compared to the manga

I said Tokyo Revengers. I’m reading it along with the anime (I’ve already read it tho) and it’s basically one to one.

I haven’t actually read or watched Tokyo ghoul but I’ve heard good things
Oct 24, 2023 3:43 PM
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HaylenGrey said:
OrderInTheCourt said:

tokyo ghoul adapt is nothing compared to the manga

I said Tokyo Revengers. I’m reading it along with the anime (I’ve already read it tho) and it’s basically one to one.

I haven’t actually read or watched Tokyo ghoul but I’ve heard good things

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Oct 24, 2023 3:44 PM

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i like eminence in shadow, and i havent actually read the ln to actually know how good the adaptation has been, but me personally i found the monogatari series and 86 to be very good adaptations.

Oct 24, 2023 6:53 PM
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I think mob psycho is the greatest full adaptation I’ve seen, off the top of my head. On second thought nothing comes close to ping pong the animation’s adaptation, it’s built different.
Oct 24, 2023 8:01 PM
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Me when Bocchi the Rock exists
Oct 25, 2023 12:11 AM
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you're talking about an anime that has barely 5 volumes with nonsensical plot, world and Characters compared to an anime that has 26 ones, ofc Eminence in Shadow would be better in terms of authenticity

doesn't make it better series tho
Oct 25, 2023 1:51 AM
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Its debatable. In my opinion, Re:Zero has the most faithful adaptation for a LN, among all the shows I have watched. The screen writer (better known as series composition for a TV show) decides most of the settings and points. While the director has the final say to everything!!!
@V1P3R0P Thats another adaption i wasn't very happy about. though I havent read the source, I found the anime very confusing long winded sometimes. The season 1 was amazing and I didnt get the whole sanctuary and echidna arc. It is one reason I thought I should start readingt "re:zero " LN. And it proves my point that you can't be too faithfull the source and try to translate the material according to the medium. The script writer for "Mushoku tensei " and "Re:zero" are the same. I
Oct 25, 2023 1:58 AM
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I don't know about being the "best" adaptation. There are scenes completely different from the LN. Also, there are some minor skips here and there. It's mostly good.
@Moppit Thats my point. You have to make some decisions while adapting and I found that the adaptation of "Eminence in shadow " did a very good job than other LN.
Oct 25, 2023 2:02 AM
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Phantom_373 said:
Demon slayer has a basically perfect adaptation. And also jujutsu kaisen

I'd agree with this. Not because Demon Slayer is a great series, it's quite mediocre, but because the animated adaptation truly sublimates the source.
Right now I'd say the best adaptation is probably Frieren because it really does add a lot of feelings to the story. I found the manga to be quite "expressionless" at times.

Eminence in the shadows is pretty fun, but the manga is just as funny imo
@Caernunnos original source is the Light novel
Oct 25, 2023 2:05 AM
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puvijain said:
@Caernunnos original source is the Light novel

yes, but there's also a manga. And I don't think the anime adapted anything more than the manga did from the LN . Both adaptations are really similar.
Oct 25, 2023 2:05 AM
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you're talking about an anime that has barely 5 volumes with nonsensical plot, world and Characters compared to an anime that has 26 ones, ofc Eminence in Shadow would be better in terms of authenticity

doesn't make it better series tho
@Saimatsu_Fan It is very enjoyable because of the adaptation and the animation. When I started it, I thought it was another generic isekai anime but it turned out to be pretty fun.
Oct 25, 2023 3:45 AM
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It’s up there, it’s so well done
Oct 25, 2023 6:17 AM
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puvijain said:
I go to hand it down to the team adapting the anime from the source material. They have got the essence of the material and made improvements that enhances the material in the animated medium.
Same can't be said about the adaptation of "Mushoku Tensei". You will notice not everything translates properly from the source. In fact, the most critical aspects have not translated well at all to the animated medium. They have tried to follow the source closely which makes some parts boring and made modifications that don't convey the actual essence of the scenarios.
Who is to be given credit to the adapting part from the cast and staff? Director? or script writers?
What other animes have amazing adaptations?

Edit: Most of the responses pointed out that several mangas have fantastic adaptations. And I agree. I think it is much easier to adapt a manga since the manga itself is close to a script and screenplay. But it is hard to condense the heavily detailed light novels I guess. You have to make so many decisions of what to include and where to condense the material, and thats where I think you can admire the creativity of the adaptation.

if you have only watched isekai, probably.
Oct 25, 2023 7:28 AM
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Its good but far from the best
Oct 25, 2023 10:43 PM
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puvijain said:
@Saimatsu_Fan It is very enjoyable because of the adaptation and the animation. When I started it, I thought it was another generic isekai anime but it turned out to be pretty fun.

something can be generic and be fun lol what's this dumb take
Oct 26, 2023 6:11 AM

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not the best but one of the best
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Oct 26, 2023 4:35 PM

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No, not even close.
Oct 27, 2023 2:12 AM
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not even close, whole anime is about adding new female characters which are literally meaningless, overpowered mc who will randomly definitely defeat enemy and really good animation. literally nothing more than that. if u mean it is perfectly adapted, like they are very true to source and doing good job then it's different story but definitely not best adapted.
Oct 27, 2023 4:07 AM

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It's good but ain't no way dude, it's lacking in the animation aspect.
Oct 27, 2023 4:09 AM

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not even close, whole anime is about adding new female characters which are literally meaningless, overpowered mc who will randomly definitely defeat enemy and really good animation. literally nothing more than that. if u mean it is perfectly adapted, like they are very true to source and doing good job then it's different story but definitely not best adapted.
@Chits_99 It's the latter, we aren't talking about how good this series is.
Oct 27, 2023 4:14 AM
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@Chits_99 It's the latter, we aren't talking about how good this series is.

then i don't know cause I don't know anything about source material but in animation aspects it did fantastic job and sound effects, voice acting everything else is really good. so they are definitely adapting really good.but still wish they had somewhat decent story 😂.
Oct 27, 2023 4:37 AM

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@Chits_99 It's the latter, we aren't talking about how good this series is.

then i don't know cause I don't know anything about source material but in animation aspects it did fantastic job and sound effects, voice acting everything else is really good. so they are definitely adapting really good.but still wish they had somewhat decent story 😂.
@Chits_99 It does have a decent story but I won't argue with you because you think this series has a fantastic animation, and that's pretty much enough to tell me that our perspectives are just too different.
Oct 27, 2023 4:51 AM
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idk about season 2 bc i haven't watched it nor gonna watch it but season 1 really had good animation. but really can't agree with decent story part😂
Oct 27, 2023 6:46 AM

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idk about season 2 bc i haven't watched it nor gonna watch it but season 1 really had good animation. but really can't agree with decent story part😂
@Chits_99 I'm talking about the 1st season.
Oct 28, 2023 2:08 AM
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Thread cleaned, please keep the discussion civil.

I have not read the light novel, only the manga, in comparison to the manga I find the anime better, it is definitely not a bad anime, but I can't say how good the adaptation is. This thread kinda reminds me that I haven't watched the season since episode 2 lol, still have to watch the last 2 episodes.

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