The Rapping in Kongming

KP_SENSEI said:
Yeah,they havent really put much effort into them and the horrible English accent worsens it,Rap scenes in Devilman crybaby and love is war are far better..

billybub said:
A bunch of non Japanese speakers complaining about the music in a medium made specifically for the Japanese market, that's what really "cringe".

billybub said:
A bunch of non Japanese speakers complaining about the music in a medium made specifically for the Japanese market, that's what really "cringe".

BallisticRiot said:


Simply because people are non-Japanese does not mean they aren't entitled to an opinion on something. That's like saying I can't say I dislike the foods native to other countries.

BallisticRiot said:
Let me just start this off by saying this isn't meant as hate for the show by any means, because I do enjoy it quite a bit so far. I simply want to ask the question as I know I'm likely in the minority:

Does anyone else dislike the way the raps sound in Kongming?

Stylistically, the sound of the raps feel very old school, but in a way that feel almost amateurish to me - As in the way people rapped before rap and freestyle was innovated. I can't quite tell if it's issue with the rhyme schemes or something, but, for some reason, the raps really don't sound good and the blending of english makes it feel awkward more than anything imo.

Please share your thoughts and opinions.

billybub said:
A bunch of non Japanese speakers complaining about the music in a medium made specifically for the Japanese market, that's what really "cringe".

billybub said:
A bunch of non Japanese speakers complaining about the music in a medium made specifically for the Japanese market, that's what really "cringe".

akiramado19 said:
It's down atrocious to the point where you would think they are dissing the genre.
I don't care if it's against the rules but i got to say you are very stupid my friend. I don't know how can one release such a statement without feeling embarassed.
If bringing up a point is "complaining" then you shouldn't be lurking in the forum section to begin with. And based on your logic (if i can even calling it one), non-japanese speakers, including (You), shouldn't watch anime at all. Now you see how dumb it sounds??

akiramado19 said:
It's down atrocious to the point where you would think they are dissing the genre.
I don't care if it's against the rules but i got to say you are very stupid my friend. I don't know how can one release such a statement without feeling embarassed.
If bringing up a point is "complaining" then you shouldn't be lurking in the forum section to begin with. And based on your logic (if i can even calling it one), non-japanese speakers, including (You), shouldn't watch anime at all. Now you see how dumb it sounds??

billybub said:


1st off "my friend" you should learn to read, if anybody should be embarrassed it's you.

2nd if you bothered reading what I said, you'd know I have no problem with people disliking anything. My problem is non native speakers, watching a medium that's not intended for them call something "cringe" because they're not fans of the music. It's just obnoxious.

3rd my Aunt is Japanese and I have a pretty good grasp on the language, so don't make assumptions, it just makes an ass out of you

akiramado19 said:

At this point it's useless to put some sense in you but i will try again.

First off, I don't really care if you speak japanese or have japanese siblings. It is not a flex and is clearly not the issue here. I have assumed you wouldn't because in case you didn't know, the majority of the people on this ENGLISH-based website don't speak japanese. Also, the way you put it is like being a non-japanese speaker is an insult, which is laughable btw.

You say you have no problem with people disliking something; However you retaliated because there is something disliked by some. Isn't it contradictory?

Coming back to the first point; If a japanese person were to watch a Marvel movie and find the plot boring; Since the movie is made and intended for americans, does that mean the japanese person shouldn't have the privilege to express their appreciation of the capeshit?

NoriEst said:
IIIIIIIIWAAAAAAAAAH HOW DARE THIS PERSON FIND IT CRINGE, FUCKA YOU, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE JAPANESE LANGUAGE.

these dudes have the right to find it cringe. the engrish fucking sucks and it's aight to feel cringe about some dude mispronouncing basic english terms for the sake of cool factor to accompany freestyle rap that is fucking trash. move the fuck on.


also the rap fucking SUCKS. aside from the rapper being an absolute loser who also takes away screentime from kongming and eiko, the lyrics and flow suck, and his rap does not mesh well with eiko's singing. i physically cringed when that other loser kid getting bullied used the power of freestyle rap to escape his bullies. my god. it's like those shitty 00s live action teen movies where the kids used the power of song and dance to end world hunger or some shit. absolutely awful

Animaticide said:
Freestyle, like many art forms, can be incredibly cringe if you are not involved in or are unfamiliar with how it works. I remember feeling the way you and many others here described when 8 Mile came out. It was awkward and clumsy and felt a lot like second-hand embarrassment.

But then, later in life, after I started to hang out more in public spaces where people of all scenes gathered, I was fortunate enough to experience live rap battles for the first time and I earned an unexpected appreciation for it. Not sure what changed exactly, but there was a difference between watching it behind a screen and watching it raw. One could say, I simply didn't get it before. Like you do with certain strong alcohols or cheeses, I grew into it as if it was an acquired taste.

Japanese is my fourth language and although I am nowhere close to being fluent, I could almost fully understand all of this season's unexpected anime rap battles with the exception of a word here and there.

All I can say after all that is that I loved them all. I know they were not improvised like real rap battles, but it was incredibly interesting listening to it in Japanese.

J-rap feels different. For starters, I was unaware of just how much English is mixed in. The flow is odder because of how words end in certain consonant-vowel paired sounds, so in a way it might appear like it is easier, but I find like rather restricting. The rhyming sounded more encased into the whole flow rather than just the ending of words like they would in English, Spanish or French, which are the other languages I can speak. A lot more work seems to be done in forcing odd kinds of grammar structures to help out ease the flow with those restrictions. No wonder why they resort so much to mixing in foreign words.

Maybe they may have appeared cringe to native speakers, I dunno (although online metrics seem to say the opposite), but to someone who can barely hold themselves in conversation, I enjoyed it greatly and found it fantastic how it just worked for me. I was extremely engrossed when they each took place and how they were executed with a strong emphasis on the comedic approach. There's something extremely funny and endearing to me about the idea of solving a conflict through a rap or dance battle. So my take is you just didn't get it like I didn't years ago.

As a final note, between Aharen-san, Kaguya-Sama, and Kongming's rap scenes, MC Miyuki took the crown as the coolest one, mainly because of the whole music video format.

BallisticRiot said:
Let me just start this off by saying this isn't meant as hate for the show by any means, because I do enjoy it quite a bit so far. I simply want to ask the question as I know I'm likely in the minority:

Does anyone else dislike the way the raps sound in Kongming?

Stylistically, the sound of the raps feel very old school, but in a way that feel almost amateurish to me - As in the way people rapped before rap and freestyle was innovated. I can't quite tell if it's issue with the rhyme schemes or something, but, for some reason, the raps really don't sound good and the blending of english makes it feel awkward more than anything imo.

Please share your thoughts and opinions.