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May 13, 2022 5:16 PM
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It just dawned on me whilst watching this that in anime in general they only ever have one class with which all there subjects are taught. Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?

Edit: By the replies it seems this way is much more common than what I'm used to so I'll explain how it works in England so anyone reading this can understand my original confusion. If you can't be bothered to read all this you can probably just imagine Hogwarts without the magic. That place is essentially the same as a standard British (maybe just English) school, except you normally go home in the evening unless you're posh.

In England when we we're about 13-14 we start picking subjects to study. Some are mandatory like English, Maths, Biology, Chemistry and Physics, PE. Then we pick a few extras like history, geography, politics, a language, computer science, psychology and just about anything really. Before then we do a couple years of everything to figure out what we like. The mandatory subjects are also split up into sets of abilities. So the highest performing students can work at a faster pace than those who might need a bit more help. Teachers also have there own rooms that we go to and buildings in the school are often separated by subjects or areas. So the science block and the humanities block and the languages building and so on.

This is why I found it odd they always have the same classmates for every lesson and often seem in the same room because in England we're walking around a campus-like area between lessons and all of us are have different subjects at different times and have different teachers in various different buildings.

It also strikes me as odd that every classroom in anime looks the same. There's no standard classroom in the UK and some lessons could even take place in buildings older than a lot of the countries of the people I imagine are reading this. The tables can be arranged in any way whether group like tables or desks shared between two. Its just up to the teachers discretion. Is this what its like in most countries outside the UK as well?
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May 13, 2022 5:25 PM
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I mean that's how many schools work, including the one I used to go. Of course there is a science lab, a computer lab and a gym for PE, but most subject took place in the same classroom
May 13, 2022 5:33 PM
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A lot of schools function this way. It wasn't until high school that I actually started shifting classrooms
May 13, 2022 5:43 PM
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A lot of schools function this way. It wasn't until high school that I actually started shifting classrooms

What if you study, say computer science, but a classmate of yours doesn’t and instead does politics? What if your particularly good at maths but not so good at English. You’d just hold back your classmates. Do you all just study in one room with one teacher?

From the age of about 11 my school was on a sizeable campus with various buildings you would move between depending on what subjects you had. We had the science labs, the English block, the maths block. The old Manor House that for some reason we had business and computer science classes in. The library building. The various halls for assemblies and exams and the list goes on. Pretty sure this is standard where I’m from, I can’t imagine it another way.
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May 13, 2022 6:03 PM
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FreshSalmon827 said:
Heavenly47 said:
A lot of schools function this way. It wasn't until high school that I actually started shifting classrooms

What if you study, say computer science, but a classmate of yours doesn’t and instead does politics? What if your particularly good at maths but not so good at English. You’d just hold back your classmates. Do you all just study in one room with one teacher?

From the age of about 11 my school was on a sizeable campus with various buildings you would move between depending on what subjects you had. We had the science labs, the English bloc , the maths block. The old Manor House that for some reason we had business and computer science classes in. The library building. The various halls for assemblies and exams and the list goes on. Pretty sure this is standard where I’m from, I can’t imagine it another way.


How big is your school? That sounds more like a college campus than any middle or high school I’ve ever seen. I personally had the same experience as Heavenly47, where we didn’t have any separate classes until high school. And even then, some classes were still shared. Until then, we took all our classes each day in the same room, except for subjects with specialized rooms like the gym for PE or the lab for Science classes.
May 13, 2022 6:08 PM
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FreshSalmon827 said:

What if you study, say computer science, but a classmate of yours doesn’t and instead does politics? What if your particularly good at maths but not so good at English. You’d just hold back your classmates. Do you all just study in one room with one teacher?

From the age of about 11 my school was on a sizeable campus with various buildings you would move between depending on what subjects you had. We had the science labs, the English bloc , the maths block. The old Manor House that for some reason we had business and computer science classes in. The library building. The various halls for assemblies and exams and the list goes on. Pretty sure this is standard where I’m from, I can’t imagine it another way.


How big is your school? That sounds more like a college campus than any middle or high school I’ve ever seen. I personally had the same experience as Heavenly47, where we didn’t have any separate classes until high school. And even then, some classes were still shared. Until then, we took all our classes each day in the same room, except for subjects with specialized rooms like the gym for PE or the lab for Science classes.

I’m in a relatively rural part of England (not that anywhere in England is particularly rural). My old schools only about a 1000 or so pupils probably less. Not tiny but I don’t think that’s a large school. I think the school’s quite standard, but don’t you do different subjects to your friends and peers? How does that work if you’re all apart of just one class?

What age is a middle and high school? We don’t use those terms in the UK. What I’m talking about is a secondary school which is about 11-16 and a 6th form college which is 16-18.
May 13, 2022 6:09 PM
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It's different in many places
There, the students all stay in the same class till the end of the year
In other schools like in America, each student has a different schedule so they have to move around
Or at least, that's what I know
I might be wrong cuz I've only been to 1 American school
May 13, 2022 6:13 PM
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FreshSalmon827 said:

I’m in a relatively rural part of England (not that anywhere in England is particularly rural). My old schools only about a 1000 or so pupils probably less. Not tiny but I don’t think that’s a large school. I think the school’s quite standard, but don’t you do different subjects to your friends and peers? How does that work if you’re all apart of just one class?


I was always in relatively small schools growing up. Until I moved somewhere else for high school, the biggest my class has ever been was ~20 students. Which is a lot easier to fit into a single classroom than 1000. Maybe that’s why? I’m also from the US so maybe it’s a difference with the UK school system as opposed to the US or Japanese school systems.
May 13, 2022 6:14 PM
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Bro, go outside and see the world(or you could use internet & stay inside).

No way you really think all countries have the same education system.
May 13, 2022 6:30 PM
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Bro, go outside and see the world(or you could use internet & stay inside).

No way you really think all countries have the same education system.
Well it might shock you to find out that I am currently using the internet to work out how the Japanese school system and those of other places work. You’re suggesting I do what I am currently doing, and answering your own trepidations as you type them. I don’t think going outside will help answer those questions anyway because I’m afraid I’ll have to admit that getting to Japan and asking someone there is slightly outside of my power as of now.

I wondered how they all managed to always have the same class because surely there’s too many subjects for everyone study? Do Japanese schools only teach a handful of broad subjects that everyone does? Does anime just simplify the reality of the fact? Are the year groups not split by ability in each subject so there can be a faster learning class and one that will need more time? These are the questions I am currently getting answered. The reason I decided to make a thread online rather than read about it after googling it, is because it might be nice from people all over the world to discuss how they’re education systems worked and I could learn about many as opposed to just one.
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SkySmaug384 said:
FreshSalmon827 said:

I’m in a relatively rural part of England (not that anywhere in England is particularly rural). My old schools only about a 1000 or so pupils probably less. Not tiny but I don’t think that’s a large school. I think the school’s quite standard, but don’t you do different subjects to your friends and peers? How does that work if you’re all apart of just one class?


I was always in relatively small schools growing up. Until I moved somewhere else for high school, the biggest my class has ever been was ~20 students. Which is a lot easier to fit into a single classroom than 1000. Maybe that’s why? I’m also from the US so maybe it’s a difference with the UK school system as opposed to the US or Japanese school systems.
Well it’s a thousand in the school and 7 school years. Although the last two years are a lot smaller. A class will only be 20-30 as you say.
May 13, 2022 6:33 PM
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can't speak for Japan but in germany it's pretty normal to have all subjects in the same room (except for biology, physics, chem, EDV)
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May 13, 2022 7:06 PM
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FreshSalmon827 said:
It just dawned on me whilst watching this that in anime in general they only ever have one class with which all there subjects are taught. Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?

its pretty normal. In my primary and secondary school we'd stay in one class and have pretty much all our subjects except for a few and the teachers would come to us
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FreshSalmon827 said:
EdgyLord666 said:
Bro, go outside and see the world(or you could use internet & stay inside).

No way you really think all countries have the same education system.
Well it might shock you to find out that I am currently using the internet to work out how the Japanese school system and those of other places work. You’re suggesting I do what I am currently doing, and answering your own trepidations as you type them. I don’t think going outside will help answer those questions anyway because I’m afraid I’ll have to admit that getting to Japan and asking someone there is slightly outside of my power as of now.

I wondered how they all managed to always have the same class because surely there’s too many subjects for everyone study? Do Japanese schools only teach a handful of broad subjects that everyone does? Does anime just simplify the reality of the fact? Are the year groups not split by ability in each subject so there can be a faster learning class and one that will need more time? These are the questions I am currently getting answered. The reason I decided to make a thread online rather than read about it after googling it, is because it might be nice from people all over the world to discuss how they’re education systems worked and I could learn about many as opposed to just one.

Now that's a good questions bro, you should put it on the first post instead of forcing "Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?"

Back in my highschool, there are two majors that we'll choose in the 2nd year, social science & natural science, you'll be grouped by the same classmate who choose the same major as you for at least 1 year, and then you'll study the same subjects for the major you choose. IIRC, oregairu also has the same education system as this.
May 13, 2022 11:26 PM
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That’s how schools in Asia work.
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im pretty sure it's normal like this?? in quite a few countries at least, and i know it is in asia.

i only move "classrooms" when its pe, science/chem and I.T lol unless the teacher wants to hold the class elsewhere like the library, near the canteen etc but thats rare
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FreshSalmon827 said:
It just dawned on me whilst watching this that in anime in general they only ever have one class with which all there subjects are taught. Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?

How it is here from jk/sk-grade 8 we all take the same subjects (English, math, science, art, gym/health,music, history, and geography) and once you get into high school (grade 10-12) you can pick your own classes but you have to take English for all 4 years, math for 3, French for 1, Canadian history/geography for 1, gym for 1, and either art, drama, or music for 1 year.
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Cause it doesnt matter
May 14, 2022 1:21 AM
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It varies based on school size/type, and nation.
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i never knew guys had to change classes.
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I'm from Indonesia, South East Asia. Our school system is kind of similar to Japan. I went to a public high school, so it should work as a common example. In my school, the 1st years learn the same subjects. We would move to another classroom for specific subjects, but in the end, all classes (6 in my school) take the same exact subjects.

However, it becomes different in the 2nd year. Each student decide the type of class they want. Most schools only have 2 types: natural science & social science class while some schools have an additional language class. But a student can't choose specifically what they want or not want to learn. So even though each class type learn different things, the students still can choose specific subjects.

I don't know how similar this is exactly to Japan, but I hope it gave you some insight. By the way, I went to high school almost 12 years ago, so I don't know how much have changed since I graduated in 2013.
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Basically, both of them are studying in the same course and in the same classroom. Therefore, they will study the same subject. That's how the Japanese school system works.

FreshSalmon827 said:

What if you study, say computer science, but a classmate of yours doesn’t and instead does politics? What if your particularly good at maths but not so good at English. You’d just hold back your classmates. Do you all just study in one room with one teacher?


You can use Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai as an example. Fumino is a genius in literature and arts but bad at math, and Rizu is a genius at math and bad at literature and arts. Both of them are studying in the same classroom and the same subjects.
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^^ the answer is roughly the same as above
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Where I'm from, everyone takes all the same subjects from grades 1-7 (in primary school) and grades 8-9 (high school). In primary school, besides computer classes, art class where we weren't doing theory, or PE, everything was in the same class, just a different teacher would show up for their specific period. High school was different, because there we moved to a specific teacher's classroom. It's only really grades 10-12 where there's really a lot of mixing. We'd get languages as a class, but then for maths, the various sciences and arts/music, we'd all be split up into "sets", where people of a similar academic ability were grouped together.
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I'm not going to say anything new but that is also the usual in South America. I suppose that the system is different on places where there are more resources to allocate so you can get better specialization, I had just some classes that I could select but it was like select group A of classes or select group B of classes instead of individual stuff like in college



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FreshSalmon827 said:
It just dawned on me whilst watching this that in anime in general they only ever have one class with which all there subjects are taught. Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?
In my middle school it was quite similar. We had one classroom and then numerous teachers will come teach at their own fixed times. People in the same grade were grouped in group A, B, C and there were separate classrooms for each of those groups


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FreshSalmon827 said:
It just dawned on me whilst watching this that in anime in general they only ever have one class with which all there subjects are taught. Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?

It didn't seem unusual to me as the school I studied in did the same. We had 4-5 common subjects and 1 extra special subject. The classrooms were grouped on the basis of extra subjects. For instance , language class like french class. But inside a classroom there'd be about 30 students with varying levels of academic intelligence. We'd only switch classrooms for computer class or labs
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cause it's an asian school
we dont change classrooms
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The 2 middles schools (6th to 8th grade) I went to in the US ~20 years ago had us going to different classes to learn different subjects. This continued into high school(9th-12th grade or freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior) with only the second year of high school and above being able to really pick our classes with the caveat that there were some classes we had to have a minimum amount of credits in before graduation. Foreign language, p.e. and the arts all required at least 2 years of education and theoretically you could have most of those done before becoming a junior, but you had to have math, english, science, and history every year. I think my high school was a little special in that if you were truly dedicated (and smart) you could take classes at the junior college next door for college and high school credits.
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In my case, we also didn't usually change classes, except like P.E. or I.T. or some other special cases, usually we were just in the class. Only in my last year, when I was 18-19, were we supposed to choose all our subjects and thus the whole class system fell apart and we were just together with people who choose the same subject. This way, staying in one class is impossible so we were visiting other classrooms. That said, I was a special outlier who choose very different subjects from more than the majority of class, so I was barely with my classmates.

That said, we were mostly online because of covid, so I only experienced this for like a few weeks.

So I think it's actually more common to stay in classroom but idk.
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I'm not japanese. But I live in asian countries.
My country have some similarities with japan about school.

So we always stay at the same class in a year. But at the next grade we may seperate at the different class.
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In Japan (and many Asian countries)

Most schools have it as students with "their main class"

And the teachers are the ones that swap rooms to teach. (however, most schools also have one teacher for multiple subjects, they call them the "main teacher")

Doing so, each students are assigned a "seat" (desk) that they stay with for months before their "main teacher" (usually the first teacher of the day) decide to do a seat change.

While assigned with a seat, students can pretty much put all their stuff in the desk's drawer so they don't have to carry huge backpacks around, since they won't have to constantly carry books everywhere they go.

This is the main school system until students go to college/ universities, which the system then pretty much change to what we have in the US college/ universities.

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Basically the Asian schools have Teachers "work" for the Students.
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FreshSalmon827 said:
In England when we we're about 13-14 we start picking subjects to study. Some are mandatory like English, Maths, Biology, Chemistry and Physics, PE. Then we pick a few extras like history, geography, politics, a language, computer science, psychology and just about anything really. Before then we do a couple years of everything to figure out what we like. The mandatory subjects are also split up into sets of abilities. So the highest performing students can work at a faster pace than those who might need a bit more help. Teachers also have there own rooms that we go to and buildings in the school are often separated by subjects or areas. So the science block and the humanities block and the languages building and so on.

This is why I found it odd they always have the same classmates for every lesson and often seem in the same room because in England we're walking around a campus-like area between lessons and all of us are have different subjects at different times and have different teachers in various different buildings.

It also strikes me as odd that every classroom in anime looks the same. There's no standard classroom in the UK and some lessons could even take place in buildings older than a lot of the countries of the people I imagine are reading this. The tables can be arranged in any way whether group like tables or desks shared between two. Its just up to the teachers discretion. Is this what its like in most countries outside the UK as well?


That's kinda how it works in NL too. After like middle school equivalent i think (we call it basisschool, groep 1 t/m 8) you go to high school (middelbare school), where you're already divided based on abilities/learning skills. The "major" groups are VMBO (4 years), HAVO (5 years) and VWO (6 years, either English orientated (tweetalig), with lots of subjects being given in English or just plain dutch). Then after I think two (VMBO) or three (HAVO and VWO) years you pick which subjects you want to focus on, which some being obligated indeed. Like Dutch, English, maths and P.E. Within the classes you pick, there isn't really another dividing between "levels", no A.P. classes or anything.

But VMBO, HAVO and VWO kids don't mix within class. So I guess that's the dividing already done.
And yeah, teachers generally have their own rooms, and you go to their rooms. Teachers usually stay and students move.


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Always has been 😐, you see the same thing in many other school setting anime 😑 unless it's PE or practical lesson 😮
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FreshSalmon827 said:
It just dawned on me whilst watching this that in anime in general they only ever have one class with which all there subjects are taught. Don’t people take different subjects from each other and aren’t they sorted into different sets based on abilities?

Yes, it absolutely can happen. Especially in middle school and lower. Its the individual teachers who move around rather than entire classes. In high school, there is a bigger variety of choices which complicate things a bit. But just the year before the varieties are included, you are supposed to fill a form laying down your finalised choice of subjects and your classes are decided based on that for the sake of convenience. Obviously, there are going to be exceptions, like computer classes being held in the computer lab, P.E. classes occurring in the playground for the purpose of practical demonstration. Sometimes, there can be different language students in the same class so they would have to split up and join with other classes for the lessons. But that's about it.

I hope that cleared up things for you.




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Heavenly47 said:
A lot of schools function this way. It wasn't until high school that I actually started shifting classrooms

that's crazy, i started shifting classes in 5th or 6th grade. although i think it's probably more efficient to have everyone in one class.

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