My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
Note : This is going to be long. Read it, you lazy.. Hey. You can say that I love Oregairu just from looking at my profile. I personally believe that this is a series where you need to have experience before completely enjoying it. Experience of what, you may ask? The experience of being the same as MC (exclude the rom-com factors.) And I am talking about just the MC as a whole. No other character. Not at all. When something is relatable or referencing to you in a positive sense, there is automatically a smile on your face subconsciously. It's the same as when your workplace or your hometown is mentioned in a foreign discussion. In the same manner, when you feel like you can see yourself, your past/present as a character on the screen, it automatically makes you more attracted towards it. Having a pessimistic outlook on things, self consciousness, social anxiety, all these conditions merely formed due to unpleasant past experiences, i guess everyone who freaking love these series can relate to this. I am sure. Why you ask? Because this series is so written and presented that certain things will be understood without even mentioning in words and only those who have experienced such a thing can actually grasp the full of this series. Source : Me It's the same as "Only after being fat, you can actually experience what it means to be fat if you are too self-conscious." One of such experiences in the series is how Hachiman bends while walking with his hand always in his trouser side pockets like he finds peace in that. This is one of those which is very relatable for me, for you maybe and for the writer in particular because it's like Oregairu understands every aspect of what it means to be an extremely self-conscious person (i am not talking about being a loner). So the conclusion of this whole thing is that no matter how much time you spend reading analysis, blogs regarding season 2 in particular, you will never be able to understand it because you can't understand science just from theories (no cap) Besides all this, what do you think might be the reason that many people are drawn away from the series at certain points in season 2 in particular? It's simple. Read the title "My Youth Romantic Comedy is Wrong As I Expected". Who is my here? Hachiman Hikigaya. We are only seeing things through his perspective. That's why we can understand him a lot better than any other character in the whole series because we are literally getting enlightened by his inner monologues. The other characters are too complex for even Hachiman to understand perfectly so how are we going to? If Oregairu had been made such a way that Yukinoshita were the MC, do you think you can ever understand Hachiman? No. You can only make assumptions on what you interpret. Even i can't understand other characters that much and merely form my assumptions about that character in particular. That's why the inexperienced find it difficult to get attached to this anime because the main reason why I, why many love this anime is because how Hachiman Hikigaya's character is sketched. If you entirely remove this concept & attitude from the anime, you will find melodrama for sure. That concludes my whole point of view. My hands are hurting. -thank you! |
nick_kunJul 24, 2021 9:32 AM
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| I’m nowhere near similar to Hachiman but still my favorite show. Great analysis though. |
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| This series is sort of in the middle for me tbh. I liked it at some parts, and then I got frustrated with it at others. The main problem would be how this show often tries to overcomplicate things and tries to pass it off as natural and make it seem this is how it happens irl. Overcomplicating isn't the problem per se. The way they try to force the viewer to actually accept it, is. That, comes off as hypocritical tbh, when you're watching a social commentary with a shrewd view on society. You can't exactly do both. Either be real, or be dramatic/unrealistic. A mix is often plain chaos. The characters themselves are a strange piece of work. Hachiman talking shit to that girl on the roof who was supposed to announce something onstage was the dumbest thing I've seen, especially if he was trying to get her back. No person would actually do that irl. It was supposed to be some kind of reverse psychology but it fell flat on its face tbh. Then he actually impressed me with his move of indirectly getting the proposal's answer from Hina on the trip. That move was actually smart and Hina actually saw through it and appreciated his help. This somehow made Yukino think Hachiman didn't value himself despite that having nothing to do with THIS situation. That made far more sense in case of the rooftop scene. Yukino herself had some really out of nowhere changes. You don't go from 'Ice Queen' to 'Depressed Goofball' in a single episode. Although I realise the story is narrated as Hachiman sees it, character development can still be done right for other characters. Yukino's sister Haruno, who although is a great character, sets in motion a lot of things that ultimately made me feel underwhelmed with this show. The whole deal with 'codependency' was once again being unrealistic with how the characters took it. The fact that codependency was mentioned actually impressed me a lot. It actually happens in a lot of highschool shows but hardly is it ever acknowledged. But the way Hachiman set out trying to prove it wrong was stupid tbh, because they actually were codependent. It was blindly obvious they were acting like depressed zombies without the club tying them together. It is a missed opportunity tbh, because if they had acted self aware about it, it could've been great. Then there's Yuigahama, who hardly got the chance to evolve beyond the 'cheerful-helpful-girl-who-never-confesses' archetype. She was going to lose and we all saw it coming. It would've been nice to see something new happen to that character. Ultimately this is Hachiman's show and he stole it by being himself. I'd recommend this show to anyone looking for a highschool story, but not to someone looking for romance. Also a note for anyone who thinks I shouldn't judge anime for being unrealistic. Yes You shouldn't for shounen and stuff like that. I believe in judging a show by what it is trying to be. For example, I'll judge a harem as a harem because that's what it is trying to be. I won't compare the character development from a Harem with a show like AoT. This show tried to be realistic with its characters and view on the human psyche, and that's what I judged it by. |
certifiedbinger said: The main problem would be how this show often tries to overcomplicate things and tries to pass it off as natural and make it seem this is how it happens irl. Overcomplicating isn't the problem per se. The way they try to force the viewer to actually accept it, is. I understand what you are saying perfectly but about this line "force the viewer to accept it", just to be clear, it isn't the show's writer that forces you to accept every illogical philosophical claims but rather the ones who analyse every the and a of the show, giving their theories makes you feel like you should accept this as they are probably rationalising everything. The main reason behind this might be the way certain things are left incomplete for the audience to interpret as i mentioned earlier. The rest you said quite makes sense and i am fine with it. |
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nick_kun said: certifiedbinger said: The main problem would be how this show often tries to overcomplicate things and tries to pass it off as natural and make it seem this is how it happens irl. Overcomplicating isn't the problem per se. The way they try to force the viewer to actually accept it, is. I understand what you are saying perfectly but about this line "force the viewer to accept it", just to be clear, it isn't the show's writer that forces you to accept every illogical philosophical claims but rather the ones who analyse every the and a of the show, giving their theories makes you feel like you should accept this as they are probably rationalising everything. The main reason behind this might be the way certain things are left incomplete for the audience to interpret as i mentioned earlier. The rest you said quite makes sense and i am fine with it. I actually haven't read anything about the reviews or interpretations of this series other than the whole codependency business, which i was interested in knowing how the audience received and interpreted. And I'm positively talking about the show, not the analysers. A key example could be the rooftop scene I mentioned with that girl. Every character around, including Yukino and Hachiman themselves agreed that him trash talking the girl would've gotten the job done, although at the cost of Hachiman being hated and stuff. That 'would've gotten the job done' which was acknowledged by everyone is actually the author telling YOU to accept it as well. Which frankly I can't, because of how stupid it was. That wasn't the right move at all. Not because Hachiman will be hated, but because it made absolutely no sense why it would prompt the girl to go onstage. |
| Honestly, I throughly enjoyed it. However, I can see why some people might not. One word: Drama. If the characters said what they actually meant, there wouldn't be trivial problems in the first place. Instead, of simply saying: "I'm sorry" or "I like you" they're full of themselves and speak like rocket scientists. But, as I said before I enjoyed it, it was what a highschool romance should be. I felt the drama was placed rightfully, and the characters had personality, making them relatable in the least. |
 "๐๐ฆ๐บ, ๐๐ข๐ค๐ฉ๐ช... ๐๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ต๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ค๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ฐ๐ง๐ต๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ถ๐ณ๐ต ๐ฆ๐ข๐ค๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ, ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ท๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ข ๐ธ๐ข๐ด๐ต๐ฆ." โป๐๐ข๐ฏ๐ข ๐๐ด๐ข๐ฌ๐ช |
| Oregairu holds such a special place in my heart, I've never seen a slice of life rom com that was so well written, The last thing that you expect when watching something like that is originality, Yet I've never seen a character like Hachiman done right in any other anime. How Hachiman thinks that he's "real" and doesn't bullshit people by blending in, Yet as things progress he kinda lies to himself and more and more, Thinking that if he opened up, He'd be another guy who's just trying to blend in, And this conflict spills into one of the best moments in the entire series imo, When he told the two girls about wanting something genuine. Yukinon telling Hachiman that "If he thinks people will care about him so they can hate him afterwards, He's thinking too highly of himself" The three main characters being one of the most balanced cast of characters I've seen in an anime and either contrasting or empathizing each other all the time. Gaaaaaaaah, It's all so good. |
| I don't speak English that much, so please cut me some slack |
nick_kun said: Note : This is going to be long. Read it, you lazy.. Hey. You can say that I love Oregairu just from looking at my profile. I personally believe that this is a series where you need to have experience before completely enjoying it. Experience of what, you may ask? The experience of being the same as MC (exclude the rom-com factors.) And I am talking about just the MC as a whole. No other character. Not at all. When something is relatable or referencing to you in a positive sense, there is automatically a smile on your face subconsciously. It's the same as when your workplace or your hometown is mentioned in a foreign discussion. In the same manner, when you feel like you can see yourself, your past/present as a character on the screen, it automatically makes you more attracted towards it. Having a pessimistic outlook on things, self consciousness, social anxiety, all these conditions merely formed due to unpleasant past experiences, i guess everyone who freaking love these series can relate to this. I am sure. Why you ask? Because this series is so written and presented that certain things will be understood without even mentioning in words and only those who have experienced such a thing can actually grasp the full of this series. Source : Me It's the same as "Only after being fat, you can actually experience what it means to be fat if you are too self-conscious." One of such experiences in the series is how Hachiman bends while walking with his hand always in his trouser side pockets like he finds peace in that. This is one of those which is very relatable for me, for you maybe and for the writer in particular because it's like Oregairu understands every aspect of what it means to be an extremely self-conscious person (i am not talking about being a loner). So the conclusion of this whole thing is that no matter how much time you spend reading analysis, blogs regarding season 2 in particular, you will never be able to understand it because you can't understand science just from theories (no cap) Besides all this, what do you think might be the reason that many people are drawn away from the series at certain points in season 2 in particular? It's simple. Read the title "My Youth Romantic Comedy is Wrong As I Expected". Who is my here? Hachiman Hikigaya. We are only seeing things through his perspective. That's why we can understand him a lot better than any other character in the whole series because we are literally getting enlightened by his inner monologues. The other characters are too complex for even Hachiman to understand perfectly so how are we going to? If Oregairu had been made such a way that Yukinoshita were the MC, do you think you can ever understand Hachiman? No. You can only make assumptions on what you interpret. Even i can't understand other characters that much and merely form my assumptions about that character in particular. That's why the inexperienced find it difficult to get attached to this anime because the main reason why I, why many love this anime is because how Hachiman Hikigaya's character is sketched. If you entirely remove this concept & attitude from the anime, you will find melodrama for sure. That concludes my whole point of view. My hands are hurting. -thank you! I enjoyed Oregairu and bloody hate the author. Is that alright if I do so? Fk self-inserting bastard. At least congratulate on him getting the waifu. |
SgtBateManOct 21, 2021 11:25 PM
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| I can relate 8man to a friend but that’s about it. All drama completely missed the mark for me. The ending made me pissed. The dance planning arc or whatever was boring and dragged out to hell, and I don’t get why people like Yukino. It’s overrated and many other series out do it in the romantic and comedic aspect. The only reason why (that I can find) people like this is because they can relate to 8man, so I guess I missed out. I honestly really wanted to like this series… |
under”Mebius” is my salvation  |
| It's actually very very simple, OP. If one understood the story and actually appreciate all the dialogues, this person will love. If one is a dumbfuck who can't put 2 and 2 together to figure out all the growth of the characters, this person will hate. Simple as that. That's actually very objective and simply a fact :D |
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