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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- And I thought that there was no way that episode 20 (well I guess it's really 7) could have been surpassed. -First off, how could I forget. Despite the technobabble and world travelling, this show is a mecha anime. And you know what that means....MID-SEASON UPGRADES! Yes, Kurogane and Shirogane thanks to Nia did the Fusion Dance to become an even stronger Kurogane. With that and Tomo's colossus we had some very well-done action scenes. So the first world was saved. -Sadly, a lot of shit went down. The first world's Misao died to make it happen (though hopefully she's wherever the first Tomoharu is). Also, Takatsuki used up all of her power and seems to also about to vanish (though she's in the preview?). -Poor, poor An (First world An anyway). Every anime needs someone like you. The side character who never has a shot with the protagonist. I think you're cute though! -We finally meet the real Naotaka (First world) and he's pretty interesting. Though the fact that he has a freaking battleship shooting lasers like something I'd see in Gundam kinda threw me for a loop. -Sorry Misao lovers. Looks like Tomo picked Takatsuki unless something changes in the next three episodes. |
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| why is this show so awesome??? im loving the development and it seems that all the first season did was get all of the fanservice an unnecessary filler eps out of the way. 5/5 |
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| This episode was probably my favorite for this show...(or at least second favorite). Looks like everyone is ok with Tomo and Takatsuki being together. I wonder what's going to be in the next three episodes....maybe they are just going to start to unwind and end the series with a sweet (or maybe bittersweet?) tone. |
| The Uzushio is totally a lie; anyone can tell that it's actually the Avalon. I was disappointed how the new Kurogane turned out... lame color scheme. Now I'm left wondering if Tomo will have any use for his demon power thing... I'm glad Takatsuki was the one he chose, now it just better stay that way; Tomo I'm counting on you not to be a lame main character. |
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| Yeah. Real Naotaka looks quite interesting but we won't see him anymore. I'm happy that Tomo choose Kanade. I liked her a bit more than Misao. And he saved her because he made contract at last aтв became Asura Cryin' as I understand. That'ss why she is in preview |
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| wow.. another amazing ep.. i was wondering at first why there is no OP but Alternative turned out to be the insert song in this episode's amazing moments.. upgraded Kurogane's color scheme is kinda weird.. but i'll get used to it.. but hey.. tomo has become more powerful, eh? an Asura Cryin' who is also a demon and whose Asura Machina is almost as powerful as Hagane.. |
| Real nice episode. I guess we should have already gotten used to characters dying on this show, but losing Misao1 (first world) was still tough. Liked the interaction between Tomo and Naotaka1. Even if it was a minor scene, I really liked Tomo's decision to meet with An1. That showed real class and thoughtfulness. |
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Incredible and amazing times 100 times. I found myself so excited I had to tone it down and make a excuse there was some sport event that was going on. The concept of the demon bridge inside the super string reactor was great, I liked the idea of it but was more shocked at all these statues here and the Uzushio's power of time travel here:garfield15 said: And I thought that there was no way that episode 20 (well I guess it's really 7) could have been surpassed. Well this one did it! I swear I won't forget this and I think this is even better than some sci fi movies I saw garfield15 said: -First off, how could I forget. Despite the technobabble and world travelling, this show is a mecha anime. And you know what that means....MID-SEASON UPGRADES! Yes, Kurogane and Shirogane thanks to Nia did the Fusion Dance to become an even stronger Kurogane. With that and Tomo's colossus we had some very well-done action scenes. So the first world was saved. That fusion is great! I still wonder about how the powers of Ania worked on the fusion since she is luck eater but I was astonished at how she repaired Asura Machinas. garfield15 said: -Sadly, a lot of shit went down. The first world's Misao died to make it happen (though hopefully she's wherever the first Tomoharu is). Also, Takatsuki used up all of her power and seems to also about to vanish (though she's in the preview?). Probably Natsume will do that contract to save her...he will have no choice at this point at all. First Misao dying was sad but even more confusing at that pic I have taken of her statue having a reaction...what does the reaction mean? garfield15 said: -Poor, poor An (First world An anyway). Every anime needs someone like you. The side character who never has a shot with the protagonist. I think you're cute though! Yeah she was really sad here: garfield15 said: -We finally meet the real Naotaka (First world) and he's pretty interesting. Though the fact that he has a freaking battleship shooting lasers like something I'd see in Gundam kinda threw me for a loop. Yes! Is he not great here: garfield15 said: -Sorry Misao lovers. Looks like Tomo picked Takatsuki unless something changes in the next three episodes. Yeah that... O_O The man decided finally is all I have to say...but take Misao's words here All this is so exciting I am posting more than I do. argilium said: wow.. another amazing ep.. i was wondering at first why there is no OP but Alternative turned out to be the insert song in this episode's amazing moments.. upgraded Kurogane's color scheme is kinda weird.. but i'll get used to it.. but hey.. tomo has become more powerful, eh? an Asura Cryin' who is also a demon and whose Asura Machina is almost as powerful as Hagane.. Yes argilium! That music insert was so well done and made things more exciting! Kurogane's color was a little strange but I got used to it too. Actually it's more powerful than Hagane, Ritsu said that the output surpasses Haganes. HawthorneKitty said: Why not take a pic of the Avalon to compare....would be curious to see that. The Uzushio is totally a lie; anyone can tell that it's actually the Avalon. HawthorneKitty said: No wait, it can still change in Asura Cryin mode....there was no contract made yet with Kanade so there still a chance it can change colors.I was disappointed how the new Kurogane turned out... lame color scheme. Now I'm left wondering if Tomo will have any use for his demon power thing... HawthorneKitty said: I am counting on him to Takatsuki's man and we all want to see that kiss....right? Next episode maybe? I'm glad Takatsuki was the one he chose, now it just better stay that way; Tomo I'm counting on you not to be a lame main character. |
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argilium said: wow.. another amazing ep.. i was wondering at first why there is no OP but Alternative turned out to be the insert song in this episode's amazing moments.. They didn't put the OP in because they absolutely needed the extra 1:30. Playing the theme song during an epic battle sequence was so Super Robot >.< |
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| I thought Misao would really die...but she didnt , me happy i believe... So kanade and Tomo made a contract but i thought the only way of binding a contract is by doing it...(?)---didnt they make a huge fuss about this in the 1st season... SO basically everyones alive it seems like in the 2nd world because as the 1st world is mended it doenst have an effect in the 2nd world ~ for sure this series doesnt lose its nature of its audience 'trying to figure out things on their own' ;) So which Tomo did people like better ~ me liked the 1st Tomo who died in the 2nd world...his hair was fascinating..and for sure all the Tomos bro seem more mature than the main Tomo.. |
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Linalee-Stratos said: I thought Misao would really die...but she didnt , me happy i believe... So kanade and Tomo made a contract but i thought the only way of binding a contract is by doing it...(?)---didnt they make a huge fuss about this in the 1st season... SO basically everyones alive it seems like in the 2nd world because as the 1st world is mended it doenst have an effect in the 2nd world ~ for sure this series doesnt lose its nature of its audience 'trying to figure out things on their own' ;) So which Tomo did people like better ~ me liked the 1st Tomo who died in the 2nd world...his hair was fascinating..and for sure all the Tomos bro seem more mature than the main Tomo.. But the one we saw in this episode is more mature and looks better. >_< Oh well we all have choices and this Naotaka has Ritsu as a gf so he is for sure mature. |
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| It was epic and over the top ftw :p Kanade was a surprise though since Misao features so heavily in the ending song. |
AlliedG said: It was epic and over the top ftw :p Kanade was a surprise though since Misao features so heavily in the ending song. I second that!!! |
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| This was a epic episode >.<, lots of action for Colossus of Darkness and Kurogane-kai its sad that First Misao died T.T |
| Cool, so the.. first Natsume Naotaka lives in a weird dimension : D Also, lol, Misao coming in with a jolly suggestion, Tomo shakes it off... "It might actually work!" : O zomg surprise Tomo.. is waaay too naïve. But he's cool when using his Colossus of Darkness : D It's pretty lol that Tomo and Misao were talking like that in the middle of a fight : p Also, we need more of those TomoXMisao scenes : D Atarashii Kurogane, Kurogane-kai, ike! OH SHI- that's quite some power he's got there?O.o (Awesome having the OP in the background too btw : D) Aww.. Takatsuki comes and intervenes in all the fun D: Tch why'd she have to interrupt? Oh well, Kurogane-kai = awesomeness incarnate, but I find it pretty strange . Unfortunately though... Facepalm.. why'd Tomo have to go around and say that Takatsuki's his girlfriend? Why? =.=' She's.. pretty annoying actually : / (No francis, not even close to Yuka) And hurrrr.. Is Nia back to her old (or actually young) loli-self in the second world now? : / I hope not anyway. |
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| Loved the episode ^^ The Kurogane-kai vs Daughter Guard battle was great Now they're back to the 2nd world Cant wait for the next |
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| I wish Tomo'd pick Ania! :( |
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Oosran said: Aww.. Takatsuki comes and intervenes in all the fun D: Tch why'd she have to interrupt? You know if she did not Tomoharu would be dead by that Daughter's beam. Oosran said: Because he will a life long contractor with her in the future... You have to give me so reason to understand why not as annoying as Yuka but I am thinking because she does something in the series more than Yuka....yes?Unfortunately though... Facepalm.. why'd Tomo have to go around and say that Takatsuki's his girlfriend? Why? =.=' She's.. pretty annoying actually : / (No francis, not even close to Yuka) |
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| new kurogane, even stronger than before! and maybe we might get to see tomo and takatsuki make a contract daughter |
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| I, a Misao lover, got the ED but not Tomo. *sigh* I loved this episode though. - I got to see two Misao's. - I loved the action. Absolutely. - We have a very strong Kurogane (with a lame color scheme.) - and a powerful Tomoharu. Yes, Takatsuki was chosen. But, she's not vanishing in the preview?? Hmm.. Can't wait for the next episode. Well, this episode was the best. Killing Fest episode comes second. |
Oosran said: Because he will a life long contractor with her in the future... You have to give me so reason to understand why not as annoying as Yuka but I am thinking because she does something in the series more than Yuka....yes?Unfortunately though... Facepalm.. why'd Tomo have to go around and say that Takatsuki's his girlfriend? Why? =.=' She's.. pretty annoying actually : / (No francis, not even close to Yuka) Cmon francis which is more annoying "Kakure-kun" or " i will protect you" :P.... |
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Linalee-Stratos said: Neither, both have their value...maybe Kakeru-kun is a little more.Oosran said: Because he will a life long contractor with her in the future... You have to give me so reason to understand why not as annoying as Yuka but I am thinking because she does something in the series more than Yuka....yes?Unfortunately though... Facepalm.. why'd Tomo have to go around and say that Takatsuki's his girlfriend? Why? =.=' She's.. pretty annoying actually : / (No francis, not even close to Yuka) Cmon francis which is more annoying "Kakure-kun" or " i will protect you" :P.... |
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| I did the worst thing possible and following the shows logic tried to put the story together with everything we saw in S1 and S2 so far. Kids, don't try this at home.. there are more plotholes than plot.. btw, the ending scene with whateverherface getting rejected and tomo waving around the halfdead takatsuki saying she's his gf was the most ridiculous shit i've ever seen. she was in a freakin coffin stasis-pod in the middle of the front yard and tomo had a giant dildo igniter in his hand.. |
Kvakond said: You know Asura Cryin can never escaped that, why do you have to mention it? LOLI did the worst thing possible and following the shows logic tried to put the story together with everything we saw in S1 and S2 so far. Kids, don't try this at home.. there are more plotholes than plot.. btw, the ending scene with whateverherface getting rejected and tomo waving around the halfdead takatsuki saying she's his gf was the most ridiculous shit i've ever seen. she was in a freakin coffin stasis-pod in the middle of the front yard and tomo had a giant dildo igniter in his hand.. |
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| There's plotholes? Where? (Also the show isn't over yet. We shouldn't say there's plotholes until the end) |
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garfield15 said: You can't be seriously asking that question...There's plotholes? Where? And whatever happened to the short "omg its to dangerous to combine them coz you will most likely die" speech. It took Nia like 5 secs to combine them without any problems what-so-ever. And ah yes the epic battle, hey lets just use the same animation 5 times in a row yeah!! |
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Billbo88 said: He's right. You can't find holes in a void. ;)garfield15 said: You can't be seriously asking that question...There's plotholes? Where? What a hilarious episode, I must say. |
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Kvakond said: btw, the ending scene with whateverherface getting rejected and tomo waving around the halfdead takatsuki saying she's his gf was the most ridiculous shit i've ever seen. she was in a freakin coffin stasis-pod in the middle of the front yard and tomo had a giant dildo igniter in his hand.. I second that. Cool episode. Naotaka is a great mature guy and I love grown up version of Nia <3 I was bothered by one thing though - when Takatsuki went to rescue Tomo.. I mean, she was with Naotaka's gf all the time, so how the hell did she get to the demon bridge and then across it in like a few seconds? ._. Logic fails.. |
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Maiika said: I just said "She's a demon, it doesn't have to make sense." Makes life a lot easier >,>Cool episode. Naotaka is a great mature guy and I love grown up version of Nia <3 I was bothered by one thing though - when Takatsuki went to rescue Tomo.. I mean, she was with Naotaka's gf all the time, so how the hell did she get to the demon bridge and then across it in like a few seconds? ._. Logic fails.. |
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Kvakond said: I did the worst thing possible and following the shows logic tried to put the story together with everything we saw in S1 and S2 so far. Kids, don't try this at home.. there are more plotholes than plot.. btw, the ending scene with whateverherface getting rejected and tomo waving around the halfdead takatsuki saying she's his gf was the most ridiculous shit i've ever seen. she was in a freakin coffin stasis-pod in the middle of the front yard and tomo had a giant dildo igniter in his hand.. I try not to remember season 1 lol. It truly was a cluster fuck. Not just because they tried to toss everything at us but also because they did it in a way that made absolutely no sense at all while still tossing in filler. Season two feels completely different, as if they got a new director or something. If the manga is anything like season 1 then I'd probably rip my eyes out trying to read it. As for this episode, it was very enjoyable. We learned a lot of stuff about things we've wanted to know about since the beginning. Like who made the mecha and what happens when a doll "dies". This show really is one huge circle like I had previously hypothesized apparently. As expected they merged the two mecha to form a new one for Naotaka although it was different from how I envisioned it not to mention the colors on it look HORRIBLE. They should have stuck with black and then just added some silver in there. I'm not gonna bother hypothesizing what will happen next. There's too much lack of information that it would be a huge shot in the dark. Almost everything in the OP was covered so from here on we just have to guess. @francismeunier - I'm sure they're leaving that plugin's use for later. Too many people have died so it would make sense that at the end Tomo some how manages to bring everyone back using it. Not sure if that will actually happen but they've left the possibility open by not mentioning any limits to how he can use the new plugin (ie. "he's like a god" is all we know). |
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DeathfireD said: what happens when a doll "dies". This show really is one huge circle like I had previously hypothesized apparently. I missed that and even made a pic to have it explained....I do not get what happened with Misao from first world when she went back to that statue in the pic....please explain..confused about this. DeathfireD said: That would be nice if it happens...let's hope for the best.@francismeunier - I'm sure they're leaving that plugin's use for later. Too many people have died so it would make sense that at the end Tomo some how manages to bring everyone back using it. Not sure if that will actually happen but they've left the possibility open by not mentioning any limits to how he can use the new plugin (ie. "he's like a god" is all we know). |
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francismeunier said: DeathfireD said: what happens when a doll "dies". This show really is one huge circle like I had previously hypothesized apparently. I missed that and even made a pic to have it explained....I do not get what happened with Misao from first world when she went back to that statue in the pic....please explain..confused about this. DeathfireD said: That would be nice if it happens...let's hope for the best.@francismeunier - I'm sure they're leaving that plugin's use for later. Too many people have died so it would make sense that at the end Tomo some how manages to bring everyone back using it. Not sure if that will actually happen but they've left the possibility open by not mentioning any limits to how he can use the new plugin (ie. "he's like a god" is all we know). Misao from the first world joined Misao from the 2nd world (ie. two dolls in one mecha). She basically sacrificed herself so the 2nd world Misao would live and not use up the rest of her soul. As for this being one big circle: |
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DeathfireD said: francismeunier said: DeathfireD said: what happens when a doll "dies". This show really is one huge circle like I had previously hypothesized apparently. I missed that and even made a pic to have it explained....I do not get what happened with Misao from first world when she went back to that statue in the pic....please explain..confused about this. DeathfireD said: That would be nice if it happens...let's hope for the best.@francismeunier - I'm sure they're leaving that plugin's use for later. Too many people have died so it would make sense that at the end Tomo some how manages to bring everyone back using it. Not sure if that will actually happen but they've left the possibility open by not mentioning any limits to how he can use the new plugin (ie. "he's like a god" is all we know). Misao from the first world joined Misao from the 2nd world (ie. two dolls in one mecha). She basically sacrificed herself so the 2nd world Misao would live and not use up the rest of her soul. As for this being one big circle: Excellent explanation! Thanks but I still what are those statues other than proving that the burial dolls still have a body they had before they became sacrifice and are those bodies there for them to return someday? Also I am thinking they might know how to bring back burial dolls in the 1st world because of the technology...Ania should be able to know...right? |
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francismeunier said: DeathfireD said: francismeunier said: DeathfireD said: what happens when a doll "dies". This show really is one huge circle like I had previously hypothesized apparently. I missed that and even made a pic to have it explained....I do not get what happened with Misao from first world when she went back to that statue in the pic....please explain..confused about this. DeathfireD said: That would be nice if it happens...let's hope for the best.@francismeunier - I'm sure they're leaving that plugin's use for later. Too many people have died so it would make sense that at the end Tomo some how manages to bring everyone back using it. Not sure if that will actually happen but they've left the possibility open by not mentioning any limits to how he can use the new plugin (ie. "he's like a god" is all we know). Misao from the first world joined Misao from the 2nd world (ie. two dolls in one mecha). She basically sacrificed herself so the 2nd world Misao would live and not use up the rest of her soul. As for this being one big circle: Excellent explanation! Thanks but I still what are those statues other than proving that the burial dolls still have a body they had before they became sacrifice and are those bodies there for them to return someday? Also I am thinking they might know how to bring back burial dolls in the 1st world because of the technology...Ania should be able to know...right? The body's are the body's of the Dolls that have used up all their remaining soul. Essentially when you become a burial doll you're body is put into a capsule that apparently feeds the mecha your soul in order to power it. When you run out of soul power your body is all that remains. Whether or not they're actually dead is a good question to ask. There would be no point in keeping them well preserved like that if Tomo's brother wasn't open to the idea that there might be a way to bring them all back in the future. |
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| I only know the basics of the plot and I'm not even going to bother trying to figure out things but I do know that this episode was awesome. I'm glad he chose Takatsuki and I like the color scheme of the new kurogane. |
argilium said: wow.. another amazing ep.. i was wondering at first why there is no OP but Alternative turned out to be the insert song in this episode's amazing moments.. upgraded Kurogane's color scheme is kinda weird.. but i'll get used to it.. but hey.. tomo has become more powerful, eh? an Asura Cryin' who is also a demon and whose Asura Machina is almost as powerful as Hagane.. He is only a demon in the first world in his world the 2nd world he will not be a demon just an Asura Cryin when he makes a contract Takatsuki in the next episode. |
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| The first world is saved now, I guess that Tomo will go after Tooru and her brother from the second world. |
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| I was hoping Takatsuki died... |
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| Takatsuki in episode 8 / 21 said that she couldn't use her powers in this world (while normal humans gain powers). |
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maxime1007 said: The first world is saved now, I guess that Tomo will go after Tooru and her brother from the second world. Although it wasn't Tooru's brother, it was her sister's boyfriend actually. |
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| Meh, this episode didn't have the impact it should've had considering all that happened. Anyway, I'm glad they're going back to the 2nd World. |
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| What annoyed me about this episode was the idea of Kurogane II was randomly said by Misao when we have people like Naotaka and Nia both so called geniuses and the creators of the Asura MAchina, who never managed to cotton on to this idea. Also boo at choosing Mary goddamn Sue Takatsuki, Tomo. You've been an idiot for most of this show and you continue to do so. Tomo had much better chemistry with Misao who herself is such a better character. Now I shall become an hero for falling into this shipping faggotory. |
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| ok hold up. let me get this straight, a main character of a half-harem show actually "CHOOSE" a girl? this is complete madness!! what mangeka in their rite mind would actually have their main character grow a pair and actually do it!?!? its a conspiracy i tell you a conspiracy!! aside from that Kleeyook said: I wish Tomo'd pick Ania! :( future ania? hell yes! |
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