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Nov 12, 2013 8:10 AM
#1
According to an announcement on the official site for "Kyoukai no Kanata," three anime shorts for the series will be posted beginning on November 18, 2013. The shorts are titled "Kyoukai no Kanata: Idol Saiban! - Mayoi Nagara mo Kimi wo Sabaku Tami." Each of the episodes will have the female main characters cast as Chibi Angels who hold a trial for a different character of the series. Akito Kanbara will be the "defendant" for the first episode. Source: Official site Kyoukai no Kanata: Idol Saiban! Mayoi Nagara mo Kimi wo Sabaku Tami on MAL |
DunoisNov 13, 2013 11:08 PM
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Nov 12, 2013 8:11 AM
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Nov 12, 2013 8:11 AM
#3
Hmm...sounds kinda fun. A trial huh? Oh damn, I sense some drama coming from the first episode. |
Nov 12, 2013 8:15 AM
#4
No wonder they wait until now to disclose this short anime: because of IDOL ! |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nov 12, 2013 8:16 AM
#5
Typical Kyoani! Nothing else to say......... |
Nov 12, 2013 8:17 AM
#6
Very interesting, not sure why they are only airing them on the website instead of adding them in as an OVA or BD bonus but will watch nonetheless. |
Nov 12, 2013 8:20 AM
#8
symbv said: No wonder they wait until now to disclose this short anime: because of IDOL ! Exactly my thought. |
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Nov 12, 2013 8:22 AM
#9
Have to say the four superdeformed characters in idol dress look pretty cute though. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nov 12, 2013 8:25 AM
#11
symbv said: Have to say the four superdeformed characters in idol dress look pretty cute though. and possibly in Ai's idol outfit at that, that outfit makes any female look perfect. |
Nov 12, 2013 8:26 AM
#12
Please stop this, KyoAni. Please. This has gone far enough. |
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Nov 12, 2013 8:45 AM
#13
Idols make everything better |
Nov 12, 2013 8:57 AM
#14
Chibi > Idols. Not necessarily looking forward to this, but I guess I'll be giving it a shot. |
Nov 12, 2013 8:57 AM
#15
Nov 12, 2013 9:20 AM
#16
KyoAni girls become instant awesome, just add Idol. That said, I'll watch this for the heck of it! |
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Nov 12, 2013 9:23 AM
#17
When i thought it can't get worse... |
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Nov 12, 2013 9:30 AM
#18
This sounds nice and moe, exactly what I've been in the mood for recently. Looks like KyoAni finds a way again! But then again, they are the Gods of the industry: a studio to which no other can even begin to compare~ I'm just joking, guys. Please don't start directing your inner moe/KyoAni hatred toward me... |
AndyRayyNov 12, 2013 9:34 AM
Nov 12, 2013 9:33 AM
#19
Nice to hear, I start watching the anime. ^_^ |
Nov 12, 2013 9:45 AM
#20
If it's like the last episode I'm gonna pass. I hate idol stuff. > Chibi Well, I might watch it for that, lol. |
Nov 12, 2013 9:47 AM
#21
Red_Keys said: tsubasalover said: Ugh.Idol And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. pretty much this. |
Nov 12, 2013 9:59 AM
#22
Red_Keys said: tsubasalover said: Ugh.Idol And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. +1. I get the feeling episode 6 won't stay the worst episode of the show if they continue like this :/ Still gonna watch the shorts though. For completionism and because if I stop expecting this to be interesting it might actually be funny. |
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Nov 12, 2013 10:21 AM
#23
Chibbyy... |
Nov 12, 2013 10:31 AM
#24
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Red_Keys said: tsubasalover said: Ugh.Idol And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. +1. I get the feeling episode 6 won't stay the worst episode of the show if they continue like this :/ Still gonna watch the shorts though. For completionism and because if I stop expecting this to be interesting it might actually be funny. My thoughts exactly. Hopefully they don't turn out like those Accel World Specials that were more painful than funny. |
Nov 12, 2013 10:34 AM
#25
Sounds interesting, love seeing KyoAni stuff >_< ! |
Nov 12, 2013 10:35 AM
#26
Nov 12, 2013 10:43 AM
#27
I don't think this show has the slightest clue what it wants to be anymore. |
Nov 12, 2013 11:57 AM
#28
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Typical Kyoani! Nothing else to say......... Abandon all pretenses ye who enter. So basically the last episode was like an ad for this. A lot more makes sense now. Generally when you're going to have a chibi moe parody version of a show doesn't it help for said show not to feel like a parody in and of itself? Hoppy said: Very interesting, not sure why they are only airing them on the website instead of adding them in as an OVA or BD bonus but will watch nonetheless. You know what I'll give them a little credit here because at least for once they aren't being blatantly commercial about something...well maybe 50% commercial. Still they could easily have used them as BD exclusives to entice interested parties to start buying them more and more but instead they're making them free to view online. I can't believe I'm saying this but that's actually a pretty decent way to treat their fans with no apparent catch that I can see. Though you can all but predict exactly how these are going to go. Akihito and possibly Mitsukis brother is going to be brought out by each of the female cast members in their idol costumes and berated for his glasses fetish and imouto fetish respectively one by one in that by the book manzai style comedy way they've been in just about every episode now while reacting to how cutesy they and by proxy the intended audience finds them. There'll probably be a lot of the x_x face from the girls and maybe some silly chibi dancing and animation of him being cast into hell or subjected to some silly punishment by the angel versions of the cast at the end of each. Bet on it. |
PeacingOutNov 12, 2013 12:23 PM
Nov 12, 2013 12:52 PM
#30
The market eats up idol stuff like there's no tomorrow. I just don't understand why did KyoAni suddenly become interested in making money? They have all the big franchises rotting on their shelves giving the fans the middle finger. Oh well, whatever. |
Nov 12, 2013 12:57 PM
#31
KnK could be good if it was about idols since the beginning. Too bad it's crap. At least the shorts will be fun. Oh, and before "mature anime fans" start their ranting, let me explain - it would be better if Knk was about idols since the beginning NOT because the idols are the only way (like what you would want to put into my mouth) but because it's the only thing KnK is capable of doing well. |
Nov 12, 2013 2:55 PM
#32
Red_Keys said: And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. Well, was this series ever a "legit good" dark fantasy or action series? I mean if you compare it to the likes other popular series/franchises of similar genre it incredibly sucks |
Nov 12, 2013 3:42 PM
#33
ha. sounds fun. |
Nov 12, 2013 3:53 PM
#34
tsubasalover said: Akito Kanbara And noone noticed it so far? |
Nov 12, 2013 4:15 PM
#35
Pat_To_Do-List said: Please stop this, KyoAni. Please. This has gone far enough. Yeah, seriously KyoAni, please stop. |
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Nov 12, 2013 5:27 PM
#36
Sa4ko said: tsubasalover said: Akito Kanbara And noone noticed it so far? No wonder it looked funny. I read it too fast to really notice. I guess people were reacting to the idol/chibi thing to notice :) |
Nov 12, 2013 5:51 PM
#38
I've really enjoyed this series, so I'll be looking forward to any extras I can get. Especially if those extras come in chibi form! I absolutely adore chibis! Besides the premise sounds fun enough and it's not like it's meant to be anything serious. KyoAni always seem to pull through when I need them! Yahoo! |
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Nov 12, 2013 7:23 PM
#39
Wish we could've gotten bonus shorts for a good show this season. Lame. |
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Nov 12, 2013 7:27 PM
#40
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Clearly they had planned that this episode is one that they want to leverage upon (those chibi character design took time to develop), and judging from the fans' feedback they were right in predicting the episode would be a popular one. So here you go. +1. I get the feeling episode 6 won't stay the worst episode of the show if they continue like this :/ Red_Keys said: Thing is, where did you get the idea that it is a "dark fantasy"? At least KyoAni never said it was. It only said it is a fantasy.And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nov 12, 2013 9:51 PM
#41
symbv said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Clearly they had planned that this episode is one that they want to leverage upon (those chibi character design took time to develop), and judging from the fans' feedback they were right in predicting the episode would be a popular one. So here you go. +1. I get the feeling episode 6 won't stay the worst episode of the show if they continue like this :/ Red_Keys said: Thing is, where did you get the idea that it is a "dark fantasy"? At least KyoAni never said it was. It only said it is a fantasy.And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. Pretty sure it was billed as such during the promo phase as was the light novel and all the trailers leading up to it except for one made it look like a tonally serious action show. In any case the label clearly didn't just magically spring into existence out of nowhere like some people would love others to think now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEw3RT0dFE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnfeVrAAS2k Like you can't look at this trailer and tell me it doesn't build a certain expectation...actually wait in your case you probably can spin it as such so never mind.... 0_0 It's curious how people are suddenly redacting that claim now that's it's become clear that Kyoani itself has reneged on the idea of it being one. Shades of Ingsoc doublethink much? Also not sure why your always in such a rush to defend this company and others duplicitous production decisions. It almost looks like you'll just accept anything and everything at this rate which is fine for you I guess, but you can't expect everyone else to be as unconditionally accepting and turn the other cheek every single time like you do. Also generally when your doing a chibi parody like this doesn't it help to have the chibi parody be somewhat distinguishable from the tone and content of the show it's supposed to be parodying. For example Mini-Pato, SD Gundam and the like obviously lampoon their respective franchises which generally have a pretty serious tone to them, moreso the latter admittedly. This kind of just sounds like more of the same thing we've seen in the anime during the literature club room scenes only chibified. |
PeacingOutNov 12, 2013 9:55 PM
Nov 12, 2013 9:56 PM
#42
Kaioshin_Sama said: Well, western fans only check trailers, but Japanese fans read intro in magazines and news release and other information about the original novels. You only get limited idea of what a series is about with only the visual information. This is one big reason why so many fans in the west set the wrong expectation about a show before the season starts.Pretty sure it was billed as such during the promo phase as was the light novel and all the trailers leading up to it except for one made it look like a tonally serious action show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEw3RT0dFE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnfeVrAAS2k Like you can't look at this trailer and tell me it doesn't build a certain expectation...actually wait in your case you probably can spin it as such so never mind.... 0_0 And as I said, KyoAni said it is a fantasy, and indeed there was an expectation of some serious fantasy, but "dark fantasy"? No, it never said that, nor did I get any expectation from the trailers that it would be a "dark fantasy". It looks serious, but dark? No way. I even saw moments of humor and cuteness there. As I never thought that it would be "dark fantasy" I don't see how you could say I am redacting any "claaim". |
symbvNov 12, 2013 10:01 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nov 12, 2013 10:00 PM
#43
Red_Keys said: tsubasalover said: Ugh.Idol And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. Just saying, it gets darker from here. This was just a nice break from 2 weeks ago. Don't make assumptions before you see the rest of the anime. |
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Nov 12, 2013 10:01 PM
#44
symbv said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Well, western fans only check trailers, but Japanese fans read intro in magazines and news release and other information about the original novels. You only get limited idea of what a series is about with only the visual information. This is one big reason why so many fans in the west set the wrong expectation about a show before the season starts.Pretty sure it was billed as such during the promo phase as was the light novel and all the trailers leading up to it except for one made it look like a tonally serious action show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEw3RT0dFE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnfeVrAAS2k Like you can't look at this trailer and tell me it doesn't build a certain expectation...actually wait in your case you probably can spin it as such so never mind.... 0_0 I really don't think it was the wrong expectation to expect this show to go somewhere, develop it's cast and not resort to the same old tired pandering we've seen a countless times from Kyoani before. People were given cause to think that for once this might finally be different and Kyoani was going to experiment a little but if anything this is the most pandering and aimless show they've done yet, which would seem impossible given their track record, but is very rapidly becoming indisputable to some. Honestly dude I'm really starting to wonder about you lately, like I like your personality and stuff, really I do, but a lot of things you say, claim and argue just make absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. Like I said it's like you'll just accept anything and everything the anime industry craps out which again is good for you and all, but there's got to be a point where other people with even a hint of a critical mind say enough is enough. I think that's what's happening in this thread and I think it's an entirely reasonable reaction. And even if you're somehow right and everyone in the West's expectations for the show were just completely off (to be fair expecting Kyoani to actually follow through on a predominantly dark toned show was a longshot to begin with, frankly I never did myself, but that's not exactly the point), I think there's still plenty of other reasons to be disappointed and critical of this show so far, which I'll probably get to and build upon yet again come tomorrows episode if trends continue. darkdoll25 said: Red_Keys said: tsubasalover said: Ugh.Idol And this show's true colors shine through. "Dark fantasy" my ass. Just saying, it gets darker from here. This was just a nice break from 2 weeks ago. Don't make assumptions before you see the rest of the anime. How do you know that? Source please? |
PeacingOutNov 12, 2013 10:06 PM
Nov 12, 2013 10:03 PM
#45
Kaioshin_Sama said: Expecting the show to go somewhere and develop its cast is one thing. Just by watching the trailers and jump to conclusion that this must be a DARK fantasy is quite something else.I really don't think it was the wrong expectation to expect this show to go somewhere, develop it's cast and not resort to the same old tired pandering we've seen a countless times from Kyoani before. Kaioshin_Sama said: I don't have any problem with you having issues with being disappointed with this show in terms of consistency or character development. They are some of the reasons that many fans in Japan have problem with too. But expecting the show as a DARK fantasy is more the problem of setting the wrong expectation instead of the studio misleading people. And even if you're somehow right and everyone in the West's expectations for the show were just completely off (to be fair expecting Kyoani to actually follow through on a predominantly dark toned show was a longshot to begin with, frankly I never did myself, but that's not exactly the point), I think there's still plenty of other reasons to be disappointed and critical of this show so far, which I'll probably get to and build upon yet again come tomorrows episode if trends continue. Kaioshin_Sama said: I believe in valid criticism and realistic view of the anime industry and where it could go, but not some criticisms based mostly on your own personal preference and some unrealistic expectations about how things could and should be done. If there is anything that does not make sense, I would say it is more likely to be your expectation and your view of how the anime industry can realistically change. If you are stuck in an image that you create for yourself about the industry and the fandom, of course even views that make good sense would make *absolutely* no sense to you - those non-existent KyoAni super-loyal fanboy disc-buyers just one of the most prominent examples which I am sure make absolutely no sense to many in this thread. Honestly dude I'm really starting to wonder about you lately, like I like your personality and stuff, really I do, but a lot of things you say, claim and argue just make absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. Like I said it's like you'll just accept anything and everything the anime industry craps out which again is good for you and all, but there's got to be a point where other people with even a hint of a critical mind say enough is enough. I think that's what's happening in this thread and I think it's an entirely reasonable reaction. In short, I am against misguided idea and misunderstandings, not criticisms per se. There are a lot of things I wish the industry could change, some I'd admit is my own personal preference, some are more for the benefit of the whole industry and its future, but if we want to talk about "making sense", we need to hold a clear and accurate understanding of the industry, the fandom and the market. |
symbvNov 12, 2013 10:16 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nov 12, 2013 10:14 PM
#46
symbv said: I really don't think it was the wrong expectation to expect this show to go somewhere, develop it's cast and not resort to the same old tired pandering we've seen a countless times from Kyoani before. Expecting the show to go somewhere and develop its cast is one thing. Just by watching the trailers and jump to conclusion that this must be a DARK fantasy is quite something else. Well I hate to break it to you then cause you've clearly got some work to do if that's the case and it's not a dark fantasy cause just about everybody else I've talked to remembers it being billed as such. Like I said it's not like that label just sprang from nowhere. Kaioshin_Sama said: I believe in valid criticism and realistic view of the anime industry and where it could go. But not some criticisms based mostly on your own personal preference and some unrealistic expectations about how things could and should be done. If there is anything that does not make sense, I would say it is more likely to be your expectation and your view of how the anime industry can realistically change. Ok so if I'm interpreting this right you're basically saying that coherent and meaningful character development, shows that don't contradict events within episodes of one another and a general reason to be invested Beyond the fact that everything is moe and well animated is an unreasonable expectation? Are you reading the things you are typing right now symbv? If you are stuck in an image that you create for yourself about the industry and th fandom, of course even views that make good sense would make *absolutely* no sense to you - those non-existent KyoAni fanboy disc-buyers just one of the most prominent examples which I am sure make absolutely no sense to many in this thread. Yes symbv, it's clearly just all my fault and I have no idea what I'm looking at when watching anime and just need to learn to lower my base standards, adjust my expectations, and also nobody buys Blu-Rays for Kyoani shows. I'm not sure how I could have been this stupid, clearly I really need to take a cold hard look at myself cause I just have no clue here right? :( As an aside please god tell me I'm being pranked right now. Like Ashton Kutcher is going to come bursting into my room to tell me I've just been punked and it's all been a setup this whole time.... |
PeacingOutNov 12, 2013 10:20 PM
Nov 12, 2013 10:19 PM
#47
I do think its quite an unreasonable expectation to think the industry will go against what makes money. It would be like getting upset that the video game industry makes a lot of shooter games... its what sells. It might not be what you or many others like, but in KyoAni and other companies minds, people like you are irrelevant since you were never going to buy their anime to begin with. Why cater to what you want? |
Nov 12, 2013 10:19 PM
#48
Kaioshin_Sama said: Billed by whom? If it is not billed by KyoAni, I could only doubt the legitimacy of it. I am sure even the official distributors in the west could have got it wrong. As I said, the expectation in Japan is at most a serious fantasy, never a DARK fantasy. Well I hate to break it to you then cause you've clearly got some work to do if that's the case and it's not a dark fantasy cause just about everybody else I've talked to remembers it being billed as such. Like I said it's not like that label just sprang from nowhere. Kaioshin_Sama said: I think I said it before in another thread, but YOUR standard of how much coherence and character development is the bare minimum for a show to be tolerable could be different from many of other watchers. Have you ever considered the fact that your standard may not be what is used by other people?Ok so if I'm interpreting this right you're basically saying that coherent and meaningful character development, shows that don't contradict events within episodes of one another and a general reason to be invested Beyond the fact that everything is moe and well animated is an unreasonable expectation? Are you reading the things you are typing right now symbv? |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Nov 12, 2013 10:20 PM
#49
It seems to me that I'm one of the few people that didn't expect a ''dark'' fantasy. I don't check trailers of anything ever, since that's the first step to having a disappointment. I expected a slice of life with fantasy elements from KnK ( with Kyo ani reused humor and ''moe'') and I pretty much got that. I also don't get why people are overreacting over this or that filler episode. It's not part of the 1 cour anime and not part of the actual plot, so why hell do you care if it's idols or tentacle porn, they are fucking shorts. Even the most super duper serious anime have comedic shorts and specials. I never expected to defend a Kyo ani show in a million years but you people are fucking annoying, reacting over trivial things. Just drop the anime and spare us. > Show's true colors Give me a fucking break. Kaioshin_Sama said: I really don't think it was the wrong expectation to expect this show to go somewhere, develop it's cast and not resort to the same old tired pandering we've seen a countless times from Kyoani before. I'm pretty sure symbv meant that people expected a dark fantasy that was never there. Kaioshin_Sama said: People were given cause to think that for once this might finally be different and Kyoani was going to experiment a little but if anything this is the most pandering and aimless show they've done yet, which would seem impossible given their track record, but is very rapidly becoming indisputable to some. It their fault for expecting something ''dark'' from Kyo ani. The studio have very noticeable pattern and dark anime is not one of them. Kaioshin_Sama said: but there's got to be a point where other people with even a hint of a critical mind say enough is enough. I think that's what's happening in this thread and I think it's an entirely reasonable reaction. Perhaps people with those said critical minds should use them to watch something they know they are gonna enjoy and if the current anime industry is truly shit in their superior intellectual minds, then they should search and watch older series, there is enough of those to last a life time. |
tsudecimoNov 12, 2013 10:24 PM
Nov 12, 2013 10:25 PM
#50
Kaioshin_Sama said: At least I don't see you have much clue about what constitute the consumers who buy KyoAni shows. There are few super-loyal KyoAni fanboys who are always to the rescue, and most people just judge every show by how much it appeals to them. What seems apparent is that compared to you shows are clearly judged a bit differently by other fans (particularly those who spend money). But the fact is for this show KnK, it is not even successful at getting anime fans to open their wallets, so I don't even see why you are so worked up.Yes symbv, it's clearly just all my fault and I have no idea what I'm looking at when watching anime and just need to learn to lower my base standards, adjust my expectations, and also nobody buys Blu-Rays for Kyoani shows. I'm not sure how I could have been this stupid, clearly I really need to take a cold hard look at myself cause I just have no clue here right? :( |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
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