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Sep 30, 2011 7:40 AM
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It's kinda ridiculous how many times Nanako runs into Kaoru, I mean seriously how small is their school? Also, I thoroughly enjoyed Nanako slapping Saint Just, her reaction to Kaoru's emergency was just wtf.
Feb 9, 2012 7:47 PM
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"Keep the hell out of my life!!" (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Aug 1, 2012 7:11 AM
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Drama is building up nicely!
Aug 3, 2012 8:41 AM
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I might be insane but Nanako's rejection of Mariko bothers me. I understand her being disturbed but neglecting and ignoring someone with severe psychological scars probably related to isolation and never having had a friend (perhaps more things revelaed later on) sounds a bit ignorant.
Feb 24, 2013 9:50 PM
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I might be insane but Nanako's rejection of Mariko bothers me. I understand her being disturbed but neglecting and ignoring someone with severe psychological scars probably related to isolation and never having had a friend (perhaps more things revelaed later on) sounds a bit ignorant.


Well, it's not like she really knows what's wrong with her. To Nanako she probably comes across as terrifying.
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Apr 14, 2013 4:46 AM
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It's heart-breaking to hear Kaoru crying )': And I'd succest mental hospital for Mariko.


Mar 2, 2014 11:47 AM
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TABLE FLIP! I really hope Mariko doesn't end up murdering someone. Be safe Tomoko >__<

Saint Juste seriously pisses me off. Ugh.

Noo Kaoru was crying :(
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Mar 28, 2014 8:48 PM
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Kaoru crying made me very upset I just want to hug her.

Mariko going even more cray cray.
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Holy table-flip Batman. Can Saint Just get any more broken? What did Oscar do to get reincarnated into suffering.

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Oct 30, 2016 3:58 AM

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It feels like half the characters have death wishes, a quarter of them wish death upon others, and the last quarter are either lost souls or just don't care. It's astounding how cutthroat this cast is.
Mar 4, 2017 11:50 PM

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"Please, won't someone explain to me... What is the point of our being born and living?"

God, that was powerful. The framing of the scene and the performance by Kaoru's seiyuu were just fantastic. Hearing her cry and saying such things is purely heartbreaking, even though we do not understand her struggles at this point in the series. That's some pretty excellent writing.
Mar 31, 2017 5:58 AM

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Hmmm Ma pupee cherie, it's in the opening, text (translation):
http://www.melodietreasury.com/translations/song166_Ma%20poupee%20cherie.html

I wonder what it means for Saint-Just
Feb 23, 2018 9:48 PM

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i finally got a little time to watch an episode. mariko seriously fk'ed it up for herself, if she wanted nanako that bad, she should have thought it out a little more. ensure that she would be able to lock her away somewhere in the house, not let her run away... but that's just the crazy talking in me. the most shocking thing was that those girls literally pushed nanako off of the stage, i thought she broke her leg and i nearly cried from how outrageous nearly everyone's treatment of her is. yes... i did think that she broke her leg and i wanted her to break her leg, that would have broke those weak pansies' consciences. suck it, every student at this prestigious bitch school. and the way saint juste was acting in character in reaction to nanako desperately asking him for pain killers... YOINKS! yikes! there's something wrong up in that cuckoo head...
this anime is seriously an anime that can transcend time..
Dec 23, 2018 1:37 PM

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that tableflip lmao. easily tops every ragequits at magic the gathering games lol. iconic.
Oct 8, 2019 8:36 AM

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I'm really glad to see how this series is dealing with Mariko after what she did. I'm completely sick of seeing anime typically hailing such over-possessive annoyances as the most romantic people on Earth.

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Sep 15, 2020 3:08 AM

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Dammit Saint-Juste quit it with your melancholic bullshit poetry and just give Kaoru the damn painkillers to stop her agonising pain.

Sep 17, 2020 9:48 AM

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ZetaZaku said:
Holy table-flip Batman. Can Saint Just get any more broken? What did Oscar do to get reincarnated into suffering.


hey anyone knows which anime is that banner from?
Dec 27, 2021 12:54 PM

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It's quite ironic how Kaoru is suffering in spite of having everything Mariko desires.

Also epic


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Jul 12, 2022 9:32 PM

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Loved that Nanako tried her best to ignore Mariko, she needs to learn some lessons about boundaries.

Nanako's slapping Rei's poetry away was great and helping Kaoru was sweet but that ending with Kaoru was heartbreaking.

Mariko needs to get exorcised because that table flip was kind of demonic.
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Dammit Saint-Juste quit it with your melancholic bullshit poetry and just give Kaoru the damn painkillers to stop her agonising pain.
@Unkrowned My thoughts exactly 🤣
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May 6, 2024 1:22 PM

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I didn't expect Nanako to slap Saint-Just in the face, but apparently, it was necessary. I'm glad that Nanako was able to help Kaoru, although Kaoru's condition is making her suffer.

Mariko continues her downward spiral of depression. Will Nanako ever speak to her again?

May 28, 2024 7:37 PM

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This episode was so beautifully crafted to show the contrast of each suffering. Mariko really comes across as too selfish and self-centered even more so when we see Kaoru dealing with real life problems and how Nanako also took it to heart, worrying for her, almost to the point of forgetting about her own problems with Mariko.

I can't honestly sympathise with Mariko, yes, she has trauma and abandonment issues but situation with Nanako only shows how getting too desperate will have the opposite to desired effect. Like seriously, if she was a bit smarter and not so hyper fixated on Nanako for some mysterious reason, they could have been slowly building some true friendships together, the three of them including Tomoko. Friends aren't exlusive to be so adamant on "either me or her" approach. What does she think Nanako is to her, a girlfriend?

The slap scene was powerful, but I'm glad Rei showed some concern later on. Watching Kaouru suffer is just sad.
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Oh, not my girlie Kaoru crying! <cries alongside her>...

I wonder what injury or illness she has (had?), that she needed to be hospitalized for a full year in the first place, and still feeling the pain from. Chest pain, of all... I hope it's not something as serious and agonizing as a heart-related issue would be, since it fits the symptoms here, and that she truly is recovering, and not simply saying that so as not to make the others worry about it. And that monologue... *still crying.

The doctor's words did seem to indicate she is* on a good path... but Saint Juste's are scaring me. This girlie is obsessed with death, so I'm not giving them much weight but... between her and the doctor, she could be the "realist" here. I hope that's not true. Furthermore, why would she even be concerned enough to visit the hospital AFTER being so nonchalant about it earlier, when Nanako asked her for the meds? She likely knows everything about Kaoru's condition, as they seemed rather close... so why did she act so careless then? That slap by Nanako was entirely justified... I would have, perhaps, grabbed her by the shoulders and shook her until all her pockets emptied... lol. "COME. TO. YOUR. SENSES. GIRL!" and give me that!

Concerning Mariko... I'm a bit sad that Nanako is now giving her* the cold shoulder. Didn't you just experience how it felt when Tomoko did it to you? Whichever the case, you should talk with Mariko, if only to let her know that you need some time to process things. She didn't really do anything that can't be forgiven. Moreover, it was clear that she herself was hurting. She wanted to apologize. Hear her out. Establish some clear boundaries on acceptable behaviour. And move on. It's not complicated. But I suppose it's "what goes around, comes around" for Mariko.

Nanako has always seemed the "empathic" type, like myself, so I hold her to a higher standard. She should know better. Also, re: the slap, I don't think she would ever (or lightly) choose to inflict pain on someone else if it were for her* sake (like when dealing with the bullies), but it's good that she is able to be bold and assertive for the sake of another. It added some much needed dimensionality to her character. But I really like her as she is — a decent, kind-hearted, and well-meaning girlie, alongside Tomoko.

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